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I'm your host, Seth Holhouse.
So between the FBI's reckless Mar-a-Lago raid, the bogus January 6th commission,
and the shocking labeling of patriots as domestic terrorists, it appears that
many of our government agencies have been weaponized against their political
opponents and against we the people.
So where do we go from here?
Is the United States just stepping stones away from becoming a modern
day Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia?
Will they succeed in bringing Trump down or as always, is he three steps ahead?
Joining me today is Kash Patel, former chief of staff for the department
of defense under president Trump.
And we're going to be covering all this and more.
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All right, folks, we have a little bit shorter of a show today.
Cash has a tight schedule, so we're going to go and dive right into it.
So let's go ahead and welcome Cash Patel.
Kate, for some reason, my button's not bringing him in on the split screen.
You did it for me real quick.
He's waiting there waiting for us.
We're going to have a fantastic interview today.
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So Kate, we have him in now?
Okay.
All right.
Cash, welcome to Man in America.
Thank you so much for being here today.
Hey, thanks so much for having me, Seth.
Appreciate it.
All right.
So I know you got a hard cut off at two o'clock and about, you know,
42 minutes or sorry, 20 minutes or so.
So let's just dive right into this, right?
We're all watching this Mar-a-Lago raid unfold.
And, you know, it wouldn't surprise me, actually, it would actually not surprise
me at all if the FBI is tampering with evidence, everything we're already seeing.
But the real question with this is, do you think they're going
to be able to indict Trump?
Are they going to be able to successfully use this?
You know, we know that they're weaponizing the legal system, the
justice system against him.
Will they be able to bring him down with this?
What do you think?
No.
And look, as a former national security prosecutor who worked at the national
security division in the department of justice with a lot of these FBI guys,
and DOJ guys, and as a former chief of staff, or excuse me, chief investigator
for Devin Nunes's Russiagate, I both fought alongside career, amazing FBI and
DOJ agents and exposed the most corrupt in the United States history.
So having a unique insight into that, I think I can speak to this with a little
credibility, and here's what they've always done.
It's rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.
They tried Russiagate, they failed.
They went to Ukraine, impeachment one, impeachment two.
Then they went to January six.
Then they went to all sorts of things during COVID.
I forgot that.
And COVID origins.
Then they went to Bounty Gate and now they're on to Mar-a-Lago raid.
And what they do is they, the political government gangsters, and the few of them
that there are, there's not a lot, gin up information, disk based on false
information to do one thing, get president Trump to either not be president or never
be president again.
Whether that's convicting him or dirtying him so much with disinformation tactics,
i.e.
Hunter Biden laptop and rigging an election or attacking him personally and
directly viciously so that Americans are turned off.
And when we disprove their disinformation campaign, they come in over the top of
the fake news mafia who runs their fake headlines.
And half of America still thinks Donald Trump's a Russian asset.
When we get past that headline, they go to Hollywood and they rely on Hollywood
to scream from the top of their lungs how orange man bet.
And then once that's defeated, they create a whole new.
And right now we're on the Mar-a-Lago raid.
And here's what's going to be.
Look, I think recent events have shown that what I've been saying all along in
terms of combining, and I'm summarizing here what president Trump did to be
transparent and issue sweeping sets of declassification orders on Russiagate,
on Hillarygate and other things.
What may have started as a class national defense information, classified
information investigation, as now, in my opinion, the DOJ has seen we can't
indict this guy because he did nothing wrong, but we can go after the people
around him. And I think that's what they're going to do.
Do you think that that might have been why your name was was not redacted in the
documents?
No, they just hate me.
You know, I'm not his lawyer.
I don't have anything to do with the legal pleadings or filings or any of that
stuff. And I found out that there were documents and boxes at Mar-a-Lago when the
world found out. So, you know, what are they?
You know, of course they're going to get the same guys.
And you have to look at their bias.
Peter Strzok, Andrew Weissman and all the bozos come on the fake news media to say
I should get a lawyer.
Remember, Peter Strzok got fired because of my Russiagate investigation.
Talk about bias. Andy McCabe, same thing.
James Comey, same thing.
Lisa Page, same thing.
Bill Priestap, same thing.
Are they retired early?
Some of those guys. These people have more bias and animosity in them as the heads of
the FBI. And now they're being paid by the fake news media and the DOJ and these
government gangsters at the DOJ, who used to be my bosses in the National Security
Division six years ago, are now back running the place.
And they know the regulations and to say and preach the DOJ does things above board.
They are showing how they politically will violate that rule when it suits them.
What is my name?
And look, they're going to attack me all day long.
But what is my name being revealed in the next seven pages being redacted due for
America? Nothing.
It puts a target on my back.
This judge should have came in and said this adds no value.
Just redact his name. Not to mention it violates DOJ and FBI procedure.
And here's another thing. Since I was the first one subpoenaed by the January 6th
committee, I had active death threats against me that the FBI was investigating.
And on the same day, the Mar-a-Lago raid affidavit was unredacted, revealing my
name. The FBI, coincidentally, and finally, 10 months later, calls my lawyer and
says, oh, yeah, we ran into some dead ends on that investigation.
But don't worry, we're going to unredact his name for the most infamous search
warrant in United States history.
And you know what happened? The threat started coming right back in.
And that's what they want. The hate mail, the racism, the bigotry, everything they
accuse us of falsely.
They gin up and generate and they know what they're doing.
It's intentional. And anyone telling you otherwise is as corrupt as they are.
And for these these heathens to come on the radio and TV and say, oh, Kash Patel
should get a lawyer for what?
Seriously, like nobody presses back on them, not you, but they just want to threaten
those that have destroyed the false narratives they've been bringing, be it
Russiagate, now this whole classified, you know, as as we've seen, I'm not going to
get into it again, but we've outlined why President Trump's the most transparent
president, because he declassified documents.
So if he did that, then that between that and his personal records, it's been shown
by Judicial Watch, I think better than anyone that he's in zero legal jeopardy.
I'm convinced that they're coming after you because you're writing the most successful
children books that they can't stand.
That's got to be it. You're reaching the lines that they're so frightened for us to
reach. No, look, I appreciate you bringing that up.
And, you know, who would have thought, you know, maybe I would have written an adult
book, but, you know, we had this great idea that why shouldn't our children be educated
with the truth, not politics?
Why don't should they be taught core values of the value and importance of the truth
of serving your country, of the First Amendment?
So we wrote the plot against the king and we actually did it in a political way.
We set it in medieval times with people like Hillary Clinton and a Shifty Knight and
Duke Devin. And you're the wizard, which is amazing, the wizard.
And and it's and it's a Russiagate story based on real life characters without
politics just to show the truth matters more than anything else.
And it became the number one children's book in the country.
So the plot against the king dot com.
It's for adults, children and truth.
Social will tell you it's for every one of your pets to the sequel is coming on three
weeks. And when that comes out, as they know in The Washington Post, they've already
tried to take me out. They're terrified of what the sequel is going to do because we
are teaching kids.
We're not politicizing them.
We're not corrupting them. We're teaching them the core values of this country.
And I'm a proud, proud member to be a part of that education.
It's important. So important.
So, you know, when I remember, you know, back in 2020 and we're on YouTube, so I
can't be too specific. We know what happened in November of 2020.
And after that happened, I remember thinking, OK, Trump still got this right.
You know, Trump, he's the art of the deal.
He's the art of war.
He's he's the chess master, right?
He's always three steps ahead.
And some are thinking, OK, after after November happened, he's still going to find a
way to overturn this. And then after January 6 happened, there's still going to be a
way after Biden's inaugurated.
It's like there's still got to be a way.
But I think that, you know, for myself and a lot of the American patriots I talk to
and interact with, you know, this has gone on for almost two years and we're seeing
our country destroyed. We're seeing food crisis is heading our way.
Energy crisis is we're seeing hyperinflation, all this.
It's it's just boiling up, which not to even get into the threat of China, Russia,
et cetera. And so for a lot of people, it's like, where can we find the hope?
And so many people have been looking to President Trump.
And I guess, you know, from your perspective, you know, is Trump somehow is he still
three steps ahead in this this game it's playing out or is he really fighting tooth
and nail to save our country?
Because I think for the American people that are watching, you know, I believe that
every American that values freedom should be fighting tooth and nail at this time to
help save our country.
But I think some people are in this place of maybe waiting for Trump to make a big
move. I mean, what's your opinion on that?
What should we be looking for?
What should we as a people be doing?
I think it's combined from President Trump's perspective.
And, you know, these are just my thoughts on it.
But, you know, he knows he he can stay three steps ahead, which he does masterfully,
especially in the media.
And he knows he has to fight for this country because there's no one in the position
that he's in. I'm sure he'd rather enjoy his retirement, his family, his grandkids and
go off into the sunset after serving his country.
But he's so emboldened by and energized by the fake news media to, you know, to put an
end to their destruction of our not just education system, but our narrative, our
history. And on top of that, he's even more empowered to get out there and make it so
Americans in the world realize what actually happened.
And I think that's a mission he'll never stop fighting for.
Look, he's already outmaneuvered him in the media on this entire raid deal that DOJ
thought was going to go wonderfully well for them.
You know, these people that are running it, as you know, as he said, are vicious and
evil and they do everything intentionally.
They don't do anything by accident.
They're definitely not stupid.
Releasing my name was done with intent, even though there were threats against made
against my life because they don't care about my life.
And they knew that was the same thing.
But we're not going to take a knee.
I'm certainly not. President Trump will not bend the knee to these government gangsters.
And so where the hope comes is that there's people like that out there.
Of course, President Trump has to be the ringleader.
But then you have amazing people and platforms like Truth Social and Devin Nunes and
guys like Johnny Radcliffe out there hammering the truth.
And Rick Grinnell, another another, as Trump would say, beauty out there talking about
what actually happened.
Guys who have longstanding careers and are credible figures.
And people look to them on the news and on podcasts and shows like yours to say, what
do we do next? And what do we tell them?
I travel the country with these guys, you know, doing candidate events for President
Trump back candidates. And I'm saying you have to educate yourselves with the truth.
You have to turn off the TV and go to platforms like Sean, like sets, excuse me, and
say this is where America needs to be watching and listening to.
And this is what we need to be reading.
You know, for instance, our friend Yonah Kellogg over at Epoch Times.
And I think it has had a big effect, a big effect, because the fake news has proven to
be fake to more and more of an audience.
We're never going to get them all. But if we get the eight to 10 percent in the middle,
2022 and 2024, they're not going to have a chance.
And there's a lot of folks are saying that there's gonna be some sort of plan to prevent
the midterms from from happening, whether it's some sort of there's a number of things
I'm hearing. And do you think that we can still successfully get to the midterms?
And more than that, I mean, I just interviewed Greg Phillips this week, and he's
saying, look, he's on the forefront with, you know, 2000 meals and fighting for election
integrity. But, you know, we're still using the same machines.
We're still using a lot of same processes.
None of the politicians or governors have actually changed any of the fundamentals.
So do you think that the American people will still be able to vote in somewhat of a
fair election to be able to choose the people?
And because the midterms are so critical and Biden's talking about, oh, they're going
to turn back on Roe v.
Wade. They're going to ban assault weapons like we're at a critical junction right now.
Do you think that it's we're actually going to be able to get there and vote and have
those votes counted properly?
Yeah, I think we're going to win both houses, majorities in both the House and the
Senate. And here's why it connects to what we're just talking about.
I think most so many voters, so many Americans have been dialed in to what's actually
happening and have been shown that they were lied to in the past, be it Hunter Biden's
laptop. I mean, the polling on that is clear.
Over 80 percent of Americans have said that they voted for Biden.
But if they knew about the Hunter Biden laptop, that it was not Russian disinformation,
would have voted for Trump. And there you have it.
That's the presidential election from the last time.
That's the definition of not a stolen election, but a rigged election.
Right. And that's what we're talking about.
And what I tell people is when I go to these speaking events and even when I tell
President Trump is we have to win big, so big it doesn't matter.
And that's what we're on the verge of doing.
People are fired up for the right reasons, not for hate, not for evil, but for the
truth. And they realize you can't just go to the polls every four years and make a
difference. Those days are long gone.
Week in and week out at the local level, at the town council level, at the student
council level, at the student faculty level, at your education platforms.
These things matter. And people, especially suburban mothers, have been coming out in
droves for our conservative values and America First policies.
And that's it. You saw what happened in Virginia.
That's what's going to happen again come November.
And we are going to get a sweeping majority in the in the House.
And I think we're going to get to like 52, 53 seats in the Senate.
And that is going to be a massive victory.
And this is what they're terrified of.
And this is why when you see the fake news media go scorched earth, you know you are
getting to them. And that's what they're doing right now.
What are we, 80 days away, 75 days away from the midterms?
They know in their little fancy dining clubs that they don't allow the poor in that
they say they represent, that we are going to win.
They're just out there lying like they normally do.
So even though it feels like when we look around, it feels like the country is headed
to hell in a handbasket, you know, and that there's so much just evil emerging,
especially as we start to understand the globalist reach into our country, the, you
know, the CCP's reach into our country, et cetera.
But you, from your perspective, you're really seeing though that the scales are
tipping and especially with, with we, the people that we're awakening, we're
understanding, we're seeing through the evil and we're, we're stepping forward.
So does that give you, I mean, see, I mean, it comes across to me that you're
actually very confident in where we're at in this war and that the good and
righteous people will prevail.
Is that, am I correct in understanding that?
I'm confident where we're at as long as we stay the course.
You know, I've done, I've do dozens of these events and speaking engagements around
the country for amazing candidates like Carrie and Blake in Arizona, and I'm
Laxalt in Nevada and, you know, and our other candidates out West and Oz and
Herschel and all these folks, right.
And JD in Ohio.
And when I go and speak to these, these crowds are energized and they're big.
They're big.
They're showing up because they care.
They're showing up because they want to say, okay, what do you guys have to say?
And how are you going to improve my life?
And what's the difference between the Trump administration and now?
And we're not, and I'm a national security guy.
I'm not a political guy.
I'm a law enforcement guy, national security intel guy.
I tell them the differences in how we've been impacted on that front since
president Trump left office.
And I've said, we can go back to those policies and fix our
national security infrastructure.
But we can also at the same time, conduct constitutional oversight.
And this is the thing that's taking off Americans more than anything else.
The two tier system of justice that is on constant display at every news,
fake news media channel.
You turn on, they will give Hillary Clinton a pass, but
they will attack Donald Trump.
They will give everyday Americans indictments over and over again, but
they will let FBI corrupt this system and break the law and lie to federal
courts to target political opponents.
They will let them out with a free pass.
What do we just see happen?
A 30 year FBI agent in Thibault was shown the door on Friday night.
That doesn't happen.
I don't care what kind of disinformation campaign his lawyers are putting out
there. Oh, he retired early and he was walked out by his friends.
Yeah. OK. What American believes that except the boons that are writing that?
And so I think every time you can show the American people, this is what I
stress everywhere I go.
I give them example after example, after example of the two tier system of
justice, and they are fired up about it.
But the fix, you also have to give them the fix.
The fix comes with the majority, the gavels in Congress to conduct
constitutional oversight like we did during Russiagate that Devin and I did.
So we show the American people the documents themselves, the FBI's documents,
the DOJ's documents, the intelligence community's documents and no redactions
because all the redactions that they want to have cover up corruption.
And that is the one thing that they cannot use redactions for.
And this sitting FBI director, Christopher Wray, has come out and come out six
years ago or five years ago when we were running Russiagate and we're about to
release the Nunes memo. He said, you're going to destroy national security.
You're going to kill sources.
And America is going to go down a black hole.
Well, where's his apology?
It's not coming, but he was dead wrong.
Nobody died. No relationships were ruined.
And American national security was strengthened because we exposed the
corruption that he, Christopher Wray, allowed on his watch, along with Rod
Rosenstein at the time, the deputy attorney general.
So we get all those documents day in and day out that we lawfully obtained.
We put them on fightwithcash.com for free.
Chan six documents, Durham investigation documents, Russiagate documents,
depositions, transcripts, judicial watch documents.
And we because my thing is we have to educate the American people by letting
them read it themselves.
Don't listen to me or some clown on TV.
Read it. And more and more Americans are going to the website and turning the
pages and saying, wow, I'm seeing government corruption.
I'm not being told about it.
And when they hear otherwise from the fake news media, they call them out.
That's the way. That's how you win in November.
And so fightwithcash.com, that's the main website that you won't be able to go to.
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Such important work that you're doing.
So we've got a few more minutes.
I have one final question is that if you could tell every American that cares
about freedom, every American patriot, if you could tell them one thing that they
can do to help save our country, what would that be?
Get educated. That's it.
I never thought me, the national security law enforcement intel guy would be
such a pro education advocate.
It's not that I didn't want it before.
It's just that it wasn't in my lane.
And this children's book sort of opened my eyes.
And I said, well, if we can educate children, we got to educate the adults.
Right. Because they are the mothers and fathers and uncles and aunts of these
kids. And if they're led astray because they don't take the time to do it, then
we failed and I failed.
So that's why we created Truth Social.
That's why we created platforms of free speech.
And that's why we're putting out the documents day in and day out.
And that's why when I go around the country, I tell them, I give them the
summary of what our findings were in Russiagate and how how evil and corrupt
that was. But I said, hey, we only got out 60 percent of this stuff.
What do you think's left in the remaining 40 percent?
Do you think it's a coincidence that these same corrupt FBI agents and DOJ
officials went in and raided Mar-a-Lago when we were on the verge of lawfully
releasing the remaining Hillary Clinton and Russiagate documents?
What are they hiding? They're not hiding sources and methods.
They're hiding government corruption.
And I think more Americans need to become hip to that fact and march on with
us, because this is the one thing DOJ listens to is the public chorus.
If there's a public outcry against their corruption that we have proven, then
they will be forced to follow the law and allow government oversight of
Congress so more documents can come out.
So that's what I want. We haven't even scratched the surface.
We're going to keep going.
But you can always find me at Cash on Truth Social.
Actually, you can't find me anywhere else.
I don't exist. There's a lot of fake accounts out there, but that's the only
place I'm on on social media and FightWithCash.com.
And look, we're going to keep going.
We've got Book Two coming out, The Plot Against the King Two.
The media is going to lose it when they see the title.
I mean, they are absolutely going to lose it because they're probably going to
think we could never have touched this with educating our children.
But you can. There's nothing that's off the table if you do it in an honest,
decent and fair way.
Exactly. And that's what we're doing.
Can you tell me just quickly, how's Trump holding up?
I mean, he'd had his own home violated.
How's he doing with this?
I mean, is he keeping his head up?
I mean, I worry so much about that, man.
It's amazing. Just when you think he would be down or kind of like bummed out,
I've never seen him in greater spirits or more energized.
And I think that's what the biggest miscalculation has been with the fake news
media and these guys at DOJ and FBI and everywhere else.
The guys have been saying, I got you, I got you, I got you.
He's like, what did I do wrong?
I didn't do anything wrong.
In fact, let's just put out the truth and the truth is going to expose your
corruption. He's the you know, you know, he's the tip of the spear and we're
behind him as the shield trying to deflect and block and tackle for him where
we can. But I think he's energized because America is starting to learn that
that is actually how much he cares about this country.
And the more he's the he's the one unique individual, the more you throw at
him, he's kind of like the Hulk.
He's like, well, I'll just ingest this and then I'm going to go rampage in a
good way for America, American transparency, America first policies.
And so I think, you know, Americans are seeing that more and more and they're
seeing what they've done to his family, his kids.
They're seeing what they've done to his people, his advisors and things like
that and take them down on political conquest.
And they're seeing the two tier system of justice.
And that is one thing I will always fight.
And I think he's going to be the leader in that fight.
And it's going to be an interesting fall and winter here.
Well, great. Well, Cash, you've given me hope that I haven't had in quite some
time. So I really appreciate that.
Thank you again for everything that you're doing.
Everyone who's watching.
Make sure you go to fight with cash dot com and make sure you pick up cashes
recent book.
The plot is the plot against the king.
Correct.
That's it. Plot against the king dot com.
Thanks so much for having me.
And next time, I promise we'll do it longer.
All right. Thank you so much, Cash.
I really appreciate it. Take care.