NEW Electric Honda CRF-E2 Motorcycle Released! Their first E Dirt Bike = Best Pit Bike too

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Today we're going to take a look at some new electric motorcycle news from American Honda,
something our industry is heavily divided on, and it's not just when it comes to motorcycles,
but power sports in general. So hopefully we can keep the conversations down in the comments
section somewhat simple. But anyways, Honda just announced their first electric dirt bike,
the CRF E2. Well technically we can't say their because it's not officially a Honda,
but we'll dive more into that shortly. Now how does the CRF E2 fit in Honda's current dirt bike
lineup? This bike puts you right in between the CRF50F and the CRF110F models with an adjustable
seat height that ranges from 24.8 to 25.5 inches. So it's leaning closer to the 110 in overall size,
but it packs 12 inch wheels front and back instead of the usual setups like on the 110,
where you have a larger 14 inch wheel up front. When it comes to pricing you're looking at 2,950
bucks, so it's definitely not on the cheap side. But if you compare it against the electric bikes
from KTM and Husqvarna, it's almost half their price. But you have to keep in mind, at least
from what I've seen so far, this isn't marketed as a race bike to compete against their current
offerings. Now when it comes to suspension, you've got a 33 millimeter non-adjustable conventional
fork with 3.9 inches of travel, and in the rear you have a DNM shock that offers you rebound and
preload adjustability with 8.3 inches of travel. Long story short, the front is comparable to the
110, but the rear brings in more than twice the travel with adding in adjustability, so it
definitely gets some points there when comparing spec sheets. It's aluminum twin spar frame helps
keep the weight down, which is definitely where it shines when comparing against the 50 and 110,
as this bike tips the scales at only 106 pounds, which is 4 pounds less than the 50, and 64 pounds
less than the 110. Disc brakes front and rear instead of drums, so again more points for the
electric bike. Now how about the meat and potatoes? It's performance. Well it's horsepower figures
won't excite you, but check out those torque numbers. Pair the weight savings up with those
performance numbers out of its brushless 48 volt motor, and this thing sounds like it could be a
rocket ship. You've got two drive modes, stage one which tops out at 10 miles per hour, and stage two
that tops out at 20 miles per hour, and to adjust those power modes you've got a little lcd display
on the left side of the bars to cycle through them. It also displays your speedometer and odometer as
well as your average and max speeds too. Plus it also helps you keep tabs on your battery levels,
and speaking of batteries, that's one of its party tricks as it has a swappable lithium-ion battery,
so if you're not happy with having to wait four hours for it to charge up with the included charger
or the two and a half hour time frame with the optional quick charger that they don't have a
price listed for at this time, just drop a thousand bucks for an additional battery and you're good to
go. But how about run times on that battery, Kevin? Well they claim it's two hours in ideal
conditions with a full charge. What exactly is ideal? Is that with the kid just putting around
on it in less than an hour with someone ripping on it? And how much does a kid's weight play a role
in those numbers when comparing a 50 pound kid versus someone at its max capacity of 99 pounds?
Those are just some of the many questions I'm interested in finding out more information on.
It will be sold exclusively by Honda Power Sports dealers, but it's not a Honda which is definitely
going to confuse a lot of people when they see Honda badging all over it. It's actually manufactured
by Greenger Power Sports, formerly known as Greenger Motors. They're based out of Ontario,
California, and this isn't their first rodeo as they've been selling electric scooters and
motorcycles for a few years now. And after digging around, it looks like they have some ex-employees
of Suzuki on board to help them take this to the next level, as well as a slew of their own
patents in the back. Now you may be asking yourself, their website only shows one model now.
I was curious about that too, so I used my time machine to dig through their old website and none
of those models on the now dead GreengerMotors.com site are on the new Power Sports domain. A quick
DM later to Greenger, and I was told those models are being phased out as they move their focus in
the U.S. to motorcycles. Now how about parts? They've got some listed on their website. Most
don't have prices just yet, but my local dealer plans to stock parts for them. And if your local
dealer plans on selling these bikes, they better stock parts or people aren't going to take this
bike seriously. One of the best things about buying a Honda is having access to parts so easily.
But anyways, how about a warranty? It comes with a 12-month, 3,000-mile warranty, and I reached out
to Greenger to see how that would work as technically, this isn't a Honda, so Honda
techs won't be trained on how to properly repair these bikes right off the bat. Their response was
that you can either work with the dealer you purchased the unit from or direct with Greenger,
and depending on the claim, they may be able to ship the parts needed directly to you.
It will all depend on what needs to be handled, and that's another thing I'm interested in seeing,
just how it plays out. The partnership with Honda is interesting to say the least,
just how involved were they with this project? Honda Inc. did deal with Kawasaki, Suzuki,
and Yamaha back in 2021 to help pave the way for swappable battery packs, and we wrote about
Honda's patents on some of this tech dating back to 2018 over on hondaprokevin.com. So how does all
this play into it with Greenger? American Honda isn't offering them currently, but in Japan,
Honda has been toying around with electric models for some time now, and like I mentioned in a past
video on the topic, they are planning to ramp up their effort on electric models, and by 2024,
we'll start to see them dropping even more new models. So what does all of this mean when it
comes to the relationship with Greenger and American Honda? I don't know, but it's another
thing I'm super curious about and wish I could be a fly on the wall for some of those meetings.
Now what are my thoughts on it all? Well, it depends on how I look at it. Personally,
I don't care for electric when it comes to toys we play with for fun, because to me a huge part
of that fun is hearing an engine and exhaust note. That's part of the overall experience,
and different engines have different characteristics to them. With electric,
there is no character. Yes, they can be stupid fast, but that's it. There's no emotion,
and a huge part of that overall experience for some of us is that noise. It's music to our ears.
Now everyone is different and likes different things, but tell me, what sounds more fun? This?
Or this?
Again, we all look at things differently, so there's no right or wrong, and in some instances,
electric makes more sense than a combustion engine. So there are definitely situations where
one will be better than the next. I just don't want to see them start to try and phase out our
gas engines at the end of the day like they are planning to when it comes to the automobile side
of things. Getting the whole electric vs gasoline side of things out of the way, what do I think
about this bike? First off, I think it looks awesome, and that's a step in the right direction.
I know looks don't help how it rides, but you're crazy if you say looks don't matter at the end of
the day. I wish they would have thrown a proper rear brake on it instead of the handlebar mounted
setup like on a scooter. While I can see some benefits of it being there, if you're swapping
back and forth from this to a normal bike, it could make for some mistakes when you think you're
pulling the clutch, but you grab a handful of brake instead. Another thing I'm curious about
in the owner's manual, it says for the safety of your vehicle, the wading depth under normal driving
is less than four inches. Just how sensitive are they? They also list the ideal storage temps
between 50 and 68 degrees Fahrenheit. Is it really going to be that big of a deal if it's stored in
temps well above or below that on a regular basis? Just a few of the million questions I have, but
I'll have my hands on one soon and will hopefully be able to answer those questions and a lot more
in the future video where we do more of a deep dive on this bike. Now aside from kids using this
as that's what it was built for, the first thing that came to mind because I'm a big pit bike fan
and love doing dumb stuff with my friends on them, was how much fun this could be during those late
night shenanigans where you're trying to be quiet, but that excitement went out the window quickly
when I saw the 20 mile per hour top speed. I'll be honest, I'm dumb when it comes to electric units
and how much you can hack their speed controllers, but you've got to think that's a possibility.
Would it be as much fun as ripping around on the pit bikes we have now? In my opinion, no. Nothing
will beat the sound of an engine screaming, but sometimes we do need to be quiet to have fun and
this would fit the bill. Plus, check out those torque numbers and if we can remove all of the
limiters on it, can we say wheelie monster? Now I could ramble on a lot more about all of this, but
this was supposed to be a quick two to three minute video and we've blown right past that, so I'm
curious. What do you guys think about it all? What are your thoughts on this not being a Honda built
product, but instead a licensing deal? Are you for electric or against it? And if you're against it,
would you be fine with electric models coming to market if there was a guarantee that our
combustion engines we all love weren't on the chopping block? I think that's what turns a lot
of people off on these, but let me know what you guys think about it below in the comments section
and I'll be joining in on the conversation too. Thanks as always for watching and supporting all
of this. I really appreciate it and we'll see you in the next one.
