Beyond Sasquatch - The Paranormal and Supernatural Occurrences Scott Nelson

My name is Scott Nelson and I've been involved with Bigfoot research for about 11 years now and it's not something I'm meant to get into. The first thing I like to tell people is that I'm not a Bigfoot guy. I'm just a language guy. The pamphlet happened to stumble into this study and what we feel we've shown, demonstrated very well, that these creatures are not big stupid gorilla ape-like creatures. These are very closely related to us and the reason we believe that is because we know now that they have language. If we are going to define Sasquatch by the same standards that we define ourselves, then we have to believe that they are intelligent, sentient even, creatures because language is the defining factor. So it's something that started out very benignly and let's go look and see if we can get some evidence on Sasquatches and see if we can gather evidence, more tapes, more localizations that have linguistic value and it's just led into a high strangeness for the first five years. Of course, I've been working most closely with Ron Moorhead over the years and we began right away being invited to conferences to speak about our study and three or four times a year. It happened very quickly and even though we knew about the weirdness that had happened up at the Sierra camp for decades, we had decided in the beginning not to speak about the strangeness of it just because at that time there was a big camp of Bigfoot researchers that didn't want to even hear about, of course, they didn't even want to hear that Sasquatch had language, let alone that there was some very weird crossovers into whatever you call interdimensionality or who knows, UFOs, and we're talking high strangeness. So for the first five years, me and Ron had an agreement that when we were at conferences, we weren't going to talk about the weirdness, we're just going to talk about Bigfoot and the fact that he had language, which to us was enough, trying to demonstrate that. But after about five years ago, it got to the point where we could no longer, we no longer felt we could lie by evasion of it, evasion of the topic, right? And we just finally decided, look, we don't care now who thinks we're crazy. We're just tired of trying to gloss over it all. So that's when we decided that we were going to start, you know, we still, our most important thing that we do when we go to conferences and present our study is that itself, is to present the study and to continue demonstrating that these creatures have language. And quite frankly, that has changed everything about the perception of Sasquatch. When we first started, the most prominent theory was that these were big, or that these were remnant species of Gigantopithecus who had somehow learned to walk on two feet, that these were remnant Gigantopithecus that somehow survived and learned to evade humans. And what evidence was there? Nothing. Well, there was a tooth that they said came from a gigantic ape. Well, we're not disputing that there were gigantic apes over here. What we're disputing is that what we're dealing with is not a giant ape. One thing, and I asked a very prominent scientist this question once, I said, what evidence is there that Gigantopithecus walked on two feet? And he very honestly said, none. All we have is a tooth. And I think maybe a jawbone So we were very early on convinced that we're not talking about a big dumb gorilla incapable of speech. And by the way, the higher apes, other than us, do not have the apparatus needed to articulate language in the way that the Sierra being articulates language. Whatever that being is, it has the same apparatus that we do because it articulates speech in exactly the same way and beyond. Beyond, they make sounds that are beyond our ability. That's really how we got involved in presenting the highly strange things. I'm trying to separate the things that can be a Sasquatch being from the things that simply cannot be attributed to a Sasquatch being. And by the way, one thing that we have discovered and a conclusion that we've come to is that we don't know what they are. At first, we felt it wasn't our job to prove that they existed because there were so many people out there doing that already with all of the footprint evidence and the vocal evidence. But we, of course, had the only linguistic evidence. So first, me and Ron decided that our job really was not to prove their existence, but to give a better idea as to the nature of them. So that's what we started out to do. But the longer we did it and the more expeditions we took up to the original Sierra, and evidence gathered from other sources, other people that are coming forward and showing that this is way more than we think it is, I've changed the way that I refer to them. At first, I just called them Sasquatch. The first thing I published was the Sasquatch phonetic alphabet, and then I had to revise that because the concept that we were dealing with was changing so quickly. Now, I have to do another revision of that. So I first started out just calling them Sasquatch, and then we started calling Sasquatch being, Sasquatch creature. But now it's come to the point to where we don't know what they are. I am quite certain that they are more than just a big, hairy wild man related to humans that lives in a forest, comes out at night. So I have begun to refer to them as the Sierra being because I have no evidence, real evidence, that it's the same being that might be in Florida, or might be, because we have evidence from really all over the world, certainly in North America and all over. But we have no real evidence. Are they exactly the same being as the Dogman in Ohio or the Momo where I live in Missouri? Yeah, I have a theory. Of course, I believe that they're the same, but we have no evidence of that. So when we're doing a study that borders on scientific, and the language is an art, it's not a science, but it's bordering on what we're doing is borderline scientific stuff. I've had to revise my understanding of that, and I have now begun to call them simply the Sierra being, the ones that we have on tape from the Sierra, from the Sierra Camp. So if I use that term, you'll know what I mean by that. I really mean Sasquatch, but we don't know what they are. Some of the, what you might be interested in is, you know, some of the weird things that I personally have witnessed. And I can tell you many of the other highly strange things that have happened up there at the Sierra Camp and elsewhere that I personally did not experience, but I heard it firsthand from people that have no reason to mislead me, and from multiple people at the same time. So personally, the thing, something that happened, the first thing that happened to me personally, and my son Stephen, and Ron, was our very first successful attempt to make it to the Sierra. Yeah, I refer to that as our first successful attempt because it was the first time we were actually able to make it to the Sierra Camp. The year before was a disaster where Ron was almost killed, and I like to joke that I saved his life, and he'll even give me that credit too. And something prevented us from making it to the Sierra. That's the simplest way to say it. So the following year, Stephen came with me. We finally made it into camp. It was probably about three o'clock in the afternoon. Of course, we started almost three or four o'clock in the morning, and we hiked all the way, carrying everything in. And the second we got to the camp, and we were bare out, of course, we were so exhausted, and we'd set our backpacks down and just were sitting in and back against a tree or a log and taking a drink. And about, we estimated, 40 to 50 yards directly west of where we were sitting, we heard a sound. To me, it sounded exactly like, well, to all of us, it sounded exactly like a cowbell, only so loud. I grew up around cows. I know what cowbells sound like, right? But directly west of our camp, we hear clang, clang, clang, just like that. I'd never heard a cowbell. It sounded like it was purposely rung in that pattern. Clang, clang, clang. And we stopped, we looked at each other, and I said, what the hell was that? And Ron, who had by necessity become a skeptical, he at that point was not willing to talk about anything. If he did not see a Sasquatch walk up and say, good morning, sir, then he was not going to call it a Sasquatch because he'd been ridiculed for 35 years. So we both, we all, all of us went, what the hell was that? And Ron goes, oh, that was a cowbell. There must be cows up here. And I said, Ron, that was not a cowbell. There's no cow. We didn't, there's no cow. Cows cannot make it up to this mountain. What we just endured getting up here. There's no way. He says, oh, we saw cows up here a couple times. I said, Ron, that was not a cowbell. And no sermon did I get, that little exchange was over. In other words, seconds after that sound, then directly east of the camp, approximately the same distance, we heard the same exact sound, clang, clang, clang, exactly the same, weirdly metallics. And I said, Ron, well, that was a cowbell too. That's the fastest cow I ever heard, right? Because it had traveled at least 80 to 100 yards, completely around our camp without making a sound, and then decided to ring its cowbell. So I look at ourselves and no, Ron, I didn't, Ron finally had to accept it. No, that was, that was highly strange. So that was one of the first things that I perceived, which, you know, led into so much of our discussion about, you know, what kind of strange things had happened at that camp over the many years. And, and Ron, you know, Ron will tell you all of these stories himself. So this one afternoon, it's a very famous story amongst them, that they were sitting there one day with the sun high, below the day, 12 o'clock or 1 o'clock in the afternoon, and they heard this tuning fork sound, as if someone struck a tuning fork, and it just vibrated and emanated over the whole mountain. And they tried to, they talked, where's that coming from? Where's that coming from? They could not tell whether it was coming from the sky or whether it was coming from underground. That's how strong it was. That's how strong the vibration was. Of course, this is something that would not have, you know, and our concept of a Sasquatch being a forest ape has nothing to do with Sasquatch. That was one of the things that troubled them. There were many things, but I'll try to remember as many as I, as I can. One of the things that happened to them up there one night was, I found it to be one of the strangest of all. And that is, you know, they, the hunters were huddled in their, in their lean-to cabin that they built a couple of decades before. And they heard, they heard vocalizations. They heard more than one creature stomping around. They started to hear all of the gear that was outside of the cabin being picked up and thrown around. And they had big 55-gallon barrels that they would burn stuff in, you know, and other 55-gallon barrels that they, that they packed stuff in to protect them. They heard these barrels being picked up and smashed against each other and then being thrown down the side of the hill toward the, toward the stream. They heard their stove being smashed and just a huge ruckus. Of course, a huge ruckus. Of course, they were all, as they say, they all, you know, pulled their They were at any moment waiting for whatever was out there crashing through the lean-to and just to kill them. That's really what they expected. And, but then the sound dissipated. They had their pistols drawn. They had their guns ready to really to defend their lives. They, it stopped. And so the hunters settled down a little bit. I mean, they, well, maybe they're gone, but none of them was willing to even look out, you know, thinking that they could, you know, intimidate the creature with a gun or whatever. They were. So they stayed in there. They, they finally, some of them stayed up all night until the sun come up. They weren't going to go out. Some of them went to, you know, sleep. But in the morning, when the sun was well up and they felt secure enough to look out and walk out, they walked out and the camp had not been touched. Everything was exactly in its place where the stall was not crushed. It was not, their gear was not scattered. Everything was exactly where they had pots and pans that they, the night before, had herbed and smashed together and thrown, you know, they walked out and everything is absolutely the way it was. So it's not like some, something had gone in there and wrecked their camp and then came back later in the night and put everything back. It was, it was as if it had never happened. That I found to be more than just wrong. I found to be one of the strangest. And of course, that takes us way out of the realm of a Sasquatch. Over the years up there, they had, you know, so much activity. There were a couple of people, a couple of guys that had actually witnessed a Sasquatch. One guy got up early in the morning once and went down to get some water and rinse his face off or whatever. And directly across from this little stream, he looks up and there's what he thought was a young Sasquatch, just standing there, sitting on his haunches, looking back at him. And of course, that scared him so much that he would never go back up there. So there was, there were a lot of people, or a number of people, that had actually witnessed a Sasquatch up there, including Ron's daughter, Rhonda. They walk her down, stop, and they seem to be able to freeze. Something that we understand about them now, they're able to stop, and so suddenly, and freeze, and really almost blend in. Almost a stealth, where they seem to be able to blend into the back, and then they'll just walk off. This happened to Rhonda when she was up early by herself. And of course, you know, that's just trying to understand the nature of Sasquatch. But it really, them having those abilities would take us out of the natural realm of a big, hairy ape. I'll tell you about something that happened that first year, the first year that we tried to get up there, that would take us out of the realm of the natural world. I got Ron down off that mountain, and Ron's, Rhonda, and Ron's granddaughter, and Ron's ex-wife were there. They had come up, they had planned to come up to, I'm so grateful that they did, because we were in bad shape. Ron had several broken ribs, and damn near a broken arm. So they had come up just at the right time. Talk about synchronicity, and took care of us. They made us a steak dinner that I'm not on track for, but it was just so welcome, wonderful that they had come up. Well, while we were in camp, recovering a little bit, before we could even head back down the river, a couple of weird things happened. A lot of Sasquatch stuff, and I'm going to stay away from it. Oh yeah, we know Sasquatch. Somebody did this, had to be Sasquatch, but it's within the natural realm. I'm trying to tell you about the unnatural things, things that cannot be explained by a Sasquatch. We were in camp, what's called the horse camp. It's down at the bottom, it's in the valley, it's next to the river, and the Sierra camp is clear on the top of the mountain. So we were essentially just down the cliffs from them, but thousands of feet below. Beautiful little camping area, so we would take walks, and Wendy, Ron's granddaughter, took a walk down this trail, down the river, and she wasn't gone long. When Rhonda, who was sitting in camp, saw what she saw, the right day, it was the morning time, so the sun was already up, she saw very quickly a silhouette of what she thought could be a huge man. We were in an area where, and on the side of the river where there were no other people, and she saw very quickly running through this little clearing area, what she thought looked like a large man. She was a little bit worried because her niece had just walked off down into the direction that way, so Rhonda got up, and she walked down that trail looking for, and I said, I'm gonna go. Me and Ron didn't see her, but Rhonda did, so we didn't go with her. Rhonda walked down that trail looking for her niece, Wendy, and finally found Wendy, and Wendy, when she met Rhonda on the trail, said, did you see that wolf? She said, no, wolf, what are you talking about? She says, no, that giant white wolf. She said, no, I have no idea what you're talking about. I saw a silhouette running through the, and I'm paraphrasing a conversation that they had out on the trail, and Rhonda will tell you this exact same story, and so would Wendy. She tells Wendy, no, I saw this big giant man-like thing running through the woods down towards the stream, and I was worried about you because you had just walked down. She says, no, I didn't see anything, nothing like the Sasquatch. She says, but I saw this giant, a giant white wolf, massive, running down in this spot, and that's what first gave us the idea, could these things have an unnatural ability to shapeshift? And of course, you know, it wasn't long before, you know, we hear, the more I got into the study, you know, you hear from Native Americans and that they say, they've always said that these creatures have the ability to shapeshift. Well, that takes us a step beyond, you know, the natural world. That was one of the early things I remember. One, several years later, and we had already begun to sense that these were not just benign, big forest brothers. We began to sense that we, that it's, you know, you have to be careful, and you have to prepare yourself, and, you know, and again, how do you prepare yourself against, you know, something that could kill you with a, with a hand slap? And, but there had already begun an idea, you don't want to be out here alone. One year, about five years in, Ron, Steve, and I had been up, had made a couple of expeditions up there already in that summer, and there had been zero activity, and we were disappointed, of course, and we went home and, and, you know, those two expeditions, and me and Steve packed up and drove back to Missouri, and, but Ron was, Ron was, I could tell he was concerned about it. He said, I'm going, I want to go back up there. I said, Ron, no, you, you need to promise me now that you will not try to go up there alone, and he did, he promised me, as I remember, but I'll be damned if, you know, we're not very far out of town when he begins planning to go up there alone, and he did, and as he will tell it now, he was, it was a mistake, and he only intended to go up there for one night, thank God, and he got up there, and made it up there somehow alone with a tent and a sleeping bag, and got the tent set up. He was immediately attacked by mosquitoes, not, I mean, a swarm of mosquitoes that would come from the Everglades. He said it was so overwhelming that it drove him into the tent almost right after he got it set up, and I've heard about this mosquito phenomenon from other researchers, but it drove, it was so bad, and he had propellant on, you know, we always carry that stuff, but the mosquitoes were never that bad up there in the first place, too high elevation, 11,000 feet, so it drove him into the tent, and almost, and it was still evening, sun was still, well, it was probably down, but it was when he started hearing activity, vocalizations, even what we would call morphine strings, meaning that it's linguistic in nature, not just a, you know, a howl or a grunt, and he started hearing that from various places around. As he tells it, in his mind, he says, oh, man, we're in for a big night tonight, and sure enough, once it got dark, and he was, he says he was scared, and he started to talk. He started talking. He says, please don't, please don't kill me. He said, you don't have any reason to scare me. Please don't scare me, and he would just hear more activity, and he said, finally, he heard one come up, and again, took one of the 55-gallon barrels and smacked it with something with its hand, so loud, it sounded like an explosion. Ka-blam! Which, of course, scared the hell out of him, and he starts to talk. He says, please don't, please don't scare me. Please don't scare me. You've got nothing to worry about from me. You know, I'm just up here. I want to try to talk to you, communicate. I want to, you know, I want to understand you, but of course, he was scared to death. He stayed. He ended up sitting up in his tent all night long, but at one point, after the big explosive slam of that 55-gallon barrel, he stood in his tent, and something walks up. It's done its haunches. He didn't see it. He was too scared to look out, and whatever it was, made an electronic humming sound. It sounded almost robotic, but certainly metallic, something that no, you know, natural creature could make. Ron felt. He said it was impossible for anybody to make the sound, and he almost felt, and it lasted for a long time. I mean, in those situations, you know, it might be a minute. It might be 30 seconds, and it seems like it's an eternity, but he asked, Ron said, Scott, it almost felt like I was being scanned in some way, but it certainly wasn't something, you know, a flesh and, at least to our knowledge, a flesh and blood creature could do, and after that, the thing got up, walked away. You can hear them walk, boom, boom, boom, so it walked away, and it left him alone the rest of the night, but still, he couldn't. He couldn't sleep, so he stayed up the rest of the night. The second the light came, he got up, grabbed his small backpack, left the tent, sleep bag, everything up on the mountain, and just got there the second night. He's been apologizing to me ever since for going up there alone. I could speak a little bit about the lights, because these happened, these were not isolated incidents. They happen routinely, if not, you know, not every time we were up there. I have never actually seen what he describes as the lights, but for decades, the hunters would once in a while see orbs of different sizes. Sometimes they described them as a size of a basketball, sometimes the size of a softball or in between, and these were orbs that seemed to come down and go through the trees. Now, at night, you have to understand that the canopy of the trees is so thick that the moon doesn't shine through, the stars don't shine through, so it is essentially, you might as well be 50 feet underground. Okay, it's so black, you can't see the hand in front of your face. Now, of course, most of the time, if they're sitting up, they have a little fire going, little ambient glow, and they would see these orbs come down through and travel through the trees very slowly. It wasn't like, boom, and it's suddenly got a flash of light, nothing like that. It was as if these orbs were unconcerned with the hunters or on a mound and they would skirt the edge of the camp and kind of stay a relatively static distance from the ground, sometimes higher elevation, sometimes low, and they would travel through the forest, skirting the camp, and would go off through the forest until you couldn't see them. And this happened many, many times. A few years after the incident where Ron was up there by himself and he had that big scan, he decided his girlfriend wanted to do it, so him and his and they're sitting by the campfire and a different kind of light, and they both see it, and this one was about two or three feet long. It was more of a bar or a rock that they described as being about six, seven inches in diameter, pretty thick, and about two or three feet long. And it came down parallel to the ground and again very slowly and seemingly intentionally traveling slowly and smoothly through the trees just outside of the clearing of the campfire. It did the same thing. It went down following the contour of the ground, and then something was gone. So that brought other people into that. Terry saw it very clearly. It was not a hallucination, as he said, because these moments last for a long time. It's not like something shoots through the cap, you know, and it's gone. There's something intentionally and intelligently guiding these things. One of the moments that they talk about, it was important to them because they saw it for such a long time. It went down into the valley and then slowly went up the hills on the opposite side, and eventually they were able to watch it for so long that it went up the side of the mountain, this peak that's kind of a landmark. No trees on top. We always call it the Bald Peak. And they actually saw this orb go up the side of this mountain and go over the top of the mountain. Very slowly, intelligently guided, they felt. This is something I haven't talked about. Last summer, we went up to the camp, and now we know probably for the rest of it. And we were up there this last summer. We had a lot of forest fires going on, but none of them were really near us. But you could see the smoke. We were up there filming a segment for a movie that they pulled. And we'd sit around a campfire, and we'd see the smoke from fires miles and miles. And we speculated, what would we do if the fire hit us up here? The whole mountain would blow up, and there's nothing. We would be dead. We were up there for 10 days, speculating, you know, what would we do? I had my son up there with me. So, you know, my mind is going every day, like, what are we going to do? There's no way we're getting down at this point. There's no way we're going up into them rocks. Because when those rocks get superheated, they explode. So this was a concern for us the whole time. And we got off the mountain two days later, not attached to any of the other major fires. In fact, it was concentrated very, very small area, the whole mountain. The Forest Service says it was caused by two lightning strikes. Now, how they would know that, I don't know. But where these lightning strikes hit were exactly in the only place that would have caused the fire to roar up, roar up on that side of the mountain and engulf this area. So the whole trail up there has been destroyed. We have no clue yet. You know, we want to try to go back up there and see what's left. But the whole side of that mountain and only that part, very small. I don't know if you know about those fires that were going on there, but they raged on for miles and miles and miles, hundreds of miles in every direction. But this fire, it was almost as if it was targeted by two lightning strikes. And exactly, I've got the map. I've got this Forest Service map. That's public domain. Boom, two lightning strikes happen at the same time, right exactly where the wind would carry that flame up onto the mountain and engulf the Sierra. And that's where we're at now. We don't know if the Sierra camp is there anymore. I mean, of course, it's there. It's just probably nothing left of it. So that's something that we have to do. Bottom line of this whole thing, Ron and I finally just had to come to a conclusion. And I think Ron put it best. We're talking, I'm saying, Ron, I don't know what to call these things. I don't know what, where are we going to go? He says, I think the bottom line is that there's way more going on.