Dan Whittaker Lesson - Shot Shaping - How to Hit Fades & Draws

I hope we're not going out and making any mistakes are we I'm getting a little of its comment I'm getting but the perfect thing to ask online Tell me what you think of the calculation if you don't mind Let's find out what's happening The game looks good The game looks good the schools are coming out very well The schools are doing very well Felly this is the first contribution I have made with Dan in recent years There are many things to consider with Dan but we have managed to achieve a few things It's very open but today I'm feeling like I'm wasting my time Today we are going to do something different fingers crossed he's up for the idea Okay so we're inside the studio now with Mr Whittaker Hey guys He's been a very understanding teacher and he's going to let me film again So today's video is going to be about shot shaping I'm hitting standard shots pretty well now I'm playing the game and the course pretty well Now I want to start looking at draws and fades Am I doing the things that I should be doing in order to get the draws and fades So I'll hand it over to Dan He's going to fire some questions at me Let's find out if I'm right or wrong Okay so first off Yes If you hit a draw predominantly Where would you miss it right or left How what do you mean As in Would you overdraw it or underdraw it Underdraw it Okay So I would tend to either go bullet straight or slightly push it Okay And to hit the fade what would you tend to do Miss wise I would miss it a lot almost like a slice Like a big big fade Okay so when it comes to drawing what would you be aiming to try and do when you're hitting a draw So the thought process I would have when trying to hit a draw would be kind of trying to get my hand as much as I can on top My standard or my kind of stock shot Show us that then A stock shot is kind of a little bit of a draw So my feeling would be as I'm coming down is to try and get that right hand on top Yeah And then obviously come through as normal Is there anything different in the setup If I really wanted to try and swing one then I'd probably change my stance to kind of point right at the shoulders At target still you can traditional stuff for drawing But generally now if I just want a nice steady draw then no I wouldn't Okay and what about hitting the fade So fade I would I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to hitting the ball but it' s the feeling afterwards So I'm kind of feeling like I'm holding the club up Just show me that again in the finish So as I'm coming through I'm kind of Okay Almost trying to hold the face open But I don't really know what's happening down at the ball Okay I'm not really thinking about anything Right well best solve the ball It's all perfect isn't it I do mate So best solve this Right teach me senpai which is Japanese for master Okay so first off when you hit the fade if it does go just short well Does it go a lot shorter Yes Okay so right Let's take a look at that one first So when you're hitting the big fade The problem you've got is that you' re kind of coming through in that club face but now looking in from over there it's almost the leading edge is kind of You know almost parallel to the floor if you like Yeah And the groove is almost looking back at me So it's very very open there Okay So if you think I traced that back okay so that's so far open the ball's starting right It's also going to be really really wea Because it's quite a glancing blow Okay Now ideally what you want to do is you're drawing your fade you want to go the same distance Yes Yeah so they're both at the same club head speed and if anything actually a fade might be with a bit more club head speed Okay So your big problem is that you're holding the face open to hit a fade but actually in the draw you're not flipping the face over I actually just don't That you've got the geometry set up at the start Okay So what you're doing is you're pretty square here when you're hitting your draw But because you're trying to just close that whole arm down okay the face is open which it should be to hit the draw All you've not done is align your body angles the right position So therefore the ball's probably starting in the right way for the draw in my opinion just you're not aligning the path far enough to the right of it because you're not setting up in the right direction Right So let's set up a few sticks Let's have a little look at it Jig stick Okay So let's use that one just inside the ball there to aim at the target right Yeah Okay that is where we'd be going from hitting a dead straight shot So if we want to hit a fade The path is going to be that way isn't it Yes Okay Obviously not as severe as that So if we' ve got that path going this way We need the club face in between those two Is that so that's to hit the fade That's to hit the fade So if I get this wow It'll be really easy for you to see If I get that now come down the line can you see how that's now in between the two sticks Yes So provided my path's going along the ones cutting across here that's providing the curvature and this is controlling the start line Right the club face actually has to come rough a little bit closed Okay Relative to the ball's target Which is kind of goes against everything you think isn't it Exactly But it's going to be closed relative to the ball's target line open to the path Okay But to hit a true fade we should be able to release it As hard as we want because the draw it never goes left Okay So what we need to do is change all of that from the geometry of the setup So what we do is open the stance up a little bit okay to hit the fade Open you mean left foot back Left foot back a little bit Okay The big one for me is going to be opening the shoulders Okay Because the shoulders dictate the path where the club's going to be moving Especially for you okay And then from here I'm just going to start that club face to the left of the target line and then from there really commit to rotating through Let the club face do what it needs to in terms of rotation Because you haven 't got a very handsy flippy release No You've got a very stable club face and the club face will start to come through on the arc okay Okay Because you're a bit more open and you're rotating faster the toe of the club will be slightly more delayed Coming through anyway Okay so then the next one would be hitting the drawl So kind of right through there So obviously path club face So club face needs to be Slightly to the right of target Yeah Ball a tiny little bit back in the stance Hit it earlier in the circle then Okay Because if you hit it earlier in the circle You're able to hit the drawl Which we noticed when I did a punch lesson with you a few weeks ago the drawl was the tendency then wasn't it Which plays into what you're saying Exactly yeah So obviously you won't have it quite as far back as the punch because obviously That's going to mean the flight gets a bit too low So what you do is okay going back in the stance will allow you to hit the ball earlier Okay It'll also mean that you hit it with the face a little bit more open Yeah Because you're coming in a bit more in the circle So go in there close the shoulders a little bit Okay Face a line in between the path and where the ball target line is So basically you align it to the right because that's where you want the ball to start And as long as you're coming in to out That's where that right palm pressure you've got will be perfect So using that as a feel will be perfect for you The other thing that you can do on the fade Is get the ball a bit further forward in the stance Because if you get the ball further forward in the stance hitting it very slightly later in the circle It is going to be slightly more closed Particularly for you as your tendency on that fade is to miss it right Yes Yeah If you were hitting a fade and you always pulled it then that probably wouldn't be the right solution Yeah For now I think that's going to be a really good fit Because once that club starts to come through a little bit more that way the ball will start left at five If we've opened you up enough you'll be seeing it cut back Okay Fine Should we give it a try Yeah So you're going to take a shot at me I' ll do my best It's a tie So lower your shoulders a bit Okay Just align your face properly This again Okay so a quick sketch Very nice Path two degrees to the outside Club face almost half of that So not too bad So that's like a tight little draw because I want it to be bigger Kind of just exaggerate everything a little bit more Okay A little bit more open Ball position just a touch further forwards Try and make sure we align that path to the left now And there's a slight fade So we can see now that's about 1.9 out to in Club face is almost half a path so a little fade there But you can see the distance isn't far So that's about 158 yards on the shot Now if I just spin that around You'll see that the draw was 159 But you can see there spin rate's just a tiny bit higher Which could be with that little bit of mount It could just be straight couldn't it Ever so slightly different Yeah But the interesting one is look at this Look at the club head speed Yeah Which is down here in the bottom left Yeah Was higher on the fade Yeah which you did say was gonna be quicker Because I can open my body faster When I'm hitting the fade Yeah Provided I'm letting the club face release I should hit it the same distance Okay so I often find tha When I really want to hit it very very hard I can actually hit that little fade and get a little bit more out of it Okay It's still gonna come out With such a similar spin rate as the other It should react the same when it hits the floor It's not going to be held back when it loses distance So you can see there those numbers are pretty decent Yes That goes against everything everyone thinks Exactly Draw always goes further The only difference there is Maybe this was a contact point Yeah Just a very slight difference in dynamic off like just three and a half Do you call a yard and a half more I mean It's not really that different Yeah probably both totaled out close to like 163 164 So kind of that's what I' d expect to hit seven nine Yeah 165 is like my sort of number So you can see the draw and fade control like that All I did was change the geometry So where I was pointing club face and path and I just hit it It wasn't like there was a noticeable one where they slowed up to it Control the fade Yeah Do this for the draw Hitting both relatively quite hard and the result has been pretty good Yeah Okay So what you can do now Test No pressure Okay so we've got a couple of shots already live in the draw Okay so what we're tending to find is that Brett was really struggling to get close enough to start with because he was so good He likes little cuts That's his easy shot Pull that right foot back just a bit more mate Now I can see right here that club face is quite open Yeah Have a look at the stance and that club face It needs to shut down just a bit more at the address So that's actually still right at the target It's just closed compared to you Yeah Yeah So now hit that one So there we go 2.8 into out You can see that at 1.1 close So the face is just a little bit closed relative to the path there Okay So let's see what we get again Let's have another one Once again same again mate But you can see closing off made that path shift right hasn't it Yeah definitely Right okay Set with the body So just feel the fit There you go That's pretty good there Let's try that We've got that 1.9 but that just looked like you actually turned it down a little bit with your right hand on the way through there So that's obviously a big left We don't want that Okay So you don't need to do anything with your hands Okay So you don't need to change the clubface direction in the swing All you're doing is changing that geometry at the beginning So that's just being changed Now let's make the swing mate Okay so this is going to be much easier for you So keep your clubface where it was So you can see now that the clubface is open and right on target I feel like that's pointing now in between the two screens That's good Okay so obviously we can see their feet are open shoulders are open So that should just be dictated by the geometry So now make the swing mate So we see the ball started to the left Because its path was even further left that produced a little cut So we can see that's the cut So now it's not starting to the right it's starting left and moving back to the target So I would say I don 't know what you think on this mate That the most important thing for you is where the clubface points at the start And take a look at it for both the draw and the fade you have a tendency to start with the clubface Pointing too far right Which then in the transition I've got to do something to get it where it should have been at the start basically haven't I Yeah so what I'm going to do is show you a little drill that will help you fix that The drill is going to have a stick down the ball to target line right here Now set up for the fade So where does that clubface need to point relative to there Slightly to the left of that And then the body will be more open and then you'll obviously just make that swing from there It doesn't look like it I think it's still in the fade yeah Yeah one of your greatest strides but you'll take it Okay so now what you're going to do is hit that draw So same again but So obviously it changes in the setup to get the draw Okay so clubface for you will feel like it's more closely aligned to that stick it's almost square to it The body will be a lot more right of it because it looks square to it there so my feet look quite square Pull that right foot back just a little bit Move your right shoulder back a little more Okay Make sure the clubface is still square to the stick Now go from there and make the swing So we can see from there that you don 't have the confidence with the draw yet We saw we could shift the path before Let's try one more see what we get The big thing is making sure you're staying behind it not going at it too hard as were talking about the other week Okay so the right shoulder should be slightly back So pull that right shoulder back fold that right elbow in Good Square that clubface off feel like it's closed All right make that swing from there see what we get There we go So all of that stuff must have felt exaggerated There we are Tight little draw I mean it started just left But it's only finished 11 feet in total But what did they feel like at the end in that draw in terms of setup etc Horrible But you're getting that impression then that everything is set up ready for the draw as opposed to trying to make a draw happen if that makes sense So it's just built into your pre- shot routine to make it easy So we can see there that's going to be massive for you Yeah yeah definitely Right so that's the end of the lesson Thank you Mr Whittaker My pleasure mate Once again absolute pleasure So the fade was a lot easier for me It felt so much more natural The draw feels a little bit more like hard work It's going to take some getting used to But what I like is that the swing itself is no different It's just the setup Set up differently and then play the shot the same One swing Yeah exactly Which is a very very big thing that you promote which is one swing for everything Just change the way you set it up Yeah Yeah that's the way we're going to move forward Thank you very much for watching If you don't know this guy I don't know how but if you don't go over and check his channel out and subscribe If you're not subscribed to this channel It's completely free to do so Subscribe down below Give it a like if you like this video And like I say check out Dan Whittaker's videos For so much more detailed content This is something specific to my swing 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