Entrevista: Gringa, Boliviano, e Argentino falando em Português [with subtitles]

Hey guys Today we're going to talk about being a foreigner in Brazil I'm here with my Argentine uncle and my Bolivian father-in-law First question Where are you from My name is Luis I come from Argentina I landed here in Brazil on September 23 1975 A spring day I arrived in Porto Alegre Then I went to Rio de Janeiro I was almost 8 months in Rio Then I went to São Paulo I'm still here I've been living in São Paulo for 44 years Always in the same neighborhood Always in the same paradise I liked it a lot It was very similar to the life I had in Argentina The people the work Everything was very similar I liked it so much that I'm still here in Brazil Good morning good afternoon good evening I'm Carlos Jorge Galindo I was born in the city of Cochabamba Bolivia I arrived in Brazil in June 1978 I came to stay for a maximum of 3 or 4 months I ended up staying for 22 years Brazil is a wonderful country We really like Brazilians who live in Brazil I had a lot of success in Brazil I just have to thank this country for what it gave me That's cool Why did you come here Transcendental problems of the time I was young 30 years old Life in Argentina was extremely challenging I didn't live in the capital in Buenos Aires I'm from Patagonia the last city on the continent After Rio Gallegos came the Magdalena Strait Canal And Tierra del Fuego Rio Gallegos is the capital of the province of Santa Cruz And it's the last city on the continent of Terra Firme And it was a small city back then 35 to 40 thousand residents Everyone knew each other You couldn't do many wrong things Everyone knew each other And that part of politics was very difficult for me Why did you move to Brazil I left Bolivia in 1971 I went to the United States In the United States I had a student visa I tried to change to a resident visa But immigration invited me to leave the United States I was almost deported I voluntarily left the United States The company I worked for had an office in São Paulo So the owner asked me to come to São Paulo temporarily While my US documentation was ready And I ended up staying for 20 years So it was a stage in my life that started here in Brazil And it continues I'm here in Brazil And whenever I visit I'm very happy to be in Brazil It's a beautiful country And you How did you get here I'm here only for a short period of time But I'm going to come back And there Do you like living with people from South America A lot a lot I think I prefer the culture here But when you move to another country you know Nothing is easy But with more time everything becomes more comfortable For sure Because the beginning is complicated It's difficult Especially the language Until you learn the language What it means More in Portuguese and Spanish Sometimes the same object has a completely different name It has nothing to do with it For example parsley lettuce Chair chair They are totally different things Even similar Sometimes it takes a while One of the rules I believe is that all Latinos who come to Brazil it 's a super simple rule For example L and H would be a Jota N and H an Ñ That would be the contiguous N And so taking putting together certain sentences words one can improve little by little interpretation pronunciation and other things for how long have you been trying to speak Portuguese it was hard it was In Rio de Janeiro it was very difficult Because Carioca we lived more with the people from the hills There were a lot of slang We couldn't understand They spoke very slurred That's why I stayed very little And more than one lived there were times all exiled from all countries There were Colombians Uruguayans Bolivians Paraguayans Italians It was a mixture of terrible cultures And everyone spoke Spanish So it was complicated That's when I decided to move to São Paulo Ok In my case the Brazilian language is the best It's easy I think I learned it quickly I think it's a very romantic language It's similar to Spanish There are some different words But it wasn't so difficult because my coexistence was more with Brazilians With Brazilians and with Brazilians So I arrived at a time where there was a lot of political movement And television was probably the instrument I used to learn to speak Portuguese And also to learn the accent Of course we never lost the accent of the region There is a Cochabambino accent which is different from the Cruzenha accent But I had the facility to speak Portuguese And now I'm very happy And I want to take the opportunity to congratulate you Cristina that you took Brazil São Paulo as your favorite country You traveled a lot And you I came here to Brazil I believe it's the place where you stayed the longest And my congratulations for making an effort to speak the language of the people you are speaking The truth is that it makes us very happy because the language is the way we communicate with other people So arriving in Brazil and making an effort to learn the language is a thousand congratulations Thank you thank you I'm still trying Okay What are your favorite Brazilian drinks At the beginning I was very reluctant when they talked about feijoada because I didn't know what it was But in Rio de Janeiro I saw that every Saturday the group would get together And eat calçada and everything I saw that huge pan with a black business that I didn't know what it was And I didn't have the courage to try it But in general it would be a typical dish here in Brazil In general the food is very similar to the part of Argentina You eat meat salad rice In Argentina They are eaten but black beans don't exist In my time they didn't exist Black beans are white beans and they were practically used for salad mixed with salad or in some stew They didn't use black beans But it was easy to adapt to the food A very wide and tasty variety I was later even manager of an Italian restaurant for five years I learned To diversify because we also made Brazilian food The cuisine is very good I have a comment There is an element in Brazilian food that is very similar to Cochabamba food In Cochabamba we eat a lot of spicy food So we put pepper And here I liked it a lot because there is a very hot pepper very strong called Spicy girl So any dish you serve me we always put pepper It has more pepper flavor than the taste of the dish It is logical that feijoada e traditional dish the rice I married an Italian so I learned to eat the macaron the macaron of Bobó of Mrs Mafalda e macaron of Lisette which are wonderful I prepared the tomato sauce from the beginning and for dessert I like pavé a lot For me the name pavé It seems to be for seeing So I said this is not pave this is for eating That's it Each of you has five children some born in your country and others born in Brazil How is it to have children born in different cultures To start when I had to leave Argentina My son was four years old and another two and a half years old How My wife did not want to accompany me because she knew that when I arrived in Brazil I would not return to Argentina I had to rebuild my life Then I met a woman near the job I had in Brigadeiro Luiz Antônio in São Paulo She was also without a document Then a dispatcher passed by and said if you have children get the RNE the National Register of Foreigners Then the children appeared Who were twins Daniel and Danilo but unfortunately Danilo did not survive He lived only 14 days Then it didn 't work Then went to the dispatcher And he said you can't you have to get married Then he went to work to convince the woman to get married Then we got married in September or October She already had the documents At the time I had to work in a registry office for the registration of titles and documents Then I was registered and the foreigner was an official of the Correio de Justiça here in Brazil It was very interesting I already had two children Then my daughter was born in 1980 Then I lived w Daniel's mother Danilo and Rejane for 14 15 years Then I met Jorge's sister-in-law in the years 89 and 90 We stayed together until 2006 After 8 years of relationship Lucas was born who is now 21 years old And I have thanks to God an important relationship with Ivete and Lucas I believe that today we get along better from afar than when were together And it's a blessing from God because we have a wonderful son and we take care of him as if he were a treasure From the marriage with Dr Gaby da Bolívia three children were born Jorge and Roberto The three were born in New York Roberto came to Brazil when he was one month old Doris I think she was 5 or 6 years old when she came to Brazil And Jorge is 5 years old After a while Gaby moved to Bolivia I got married again with a lady called Lisette of Italian origin and two children were born Carlos and Beatriz And the five children are practically out of Bolivia today Jorge has a family in Bolivia he works in the United States And the five children are independent They are independent people not because of me but because of their parents Interesting So you have three cultures We have three cultures Jorge cultivates the Bolivian culture Roberto also likes the Bolivian culture Doris too even thoug She is living here in Brazil Only Carlos is missing You take him to Bolivia to see his father's family And Beatriz They are more American and Brazilian They have a little Bolivian But it's never too late They will live in Bolivia and you will like it Yes Next OK Now after spending a lot of time in Brazil Do you feel Brazilian or do you still feel like a foreigner here No I've lived longer in Brazil than in Argentina I'm 30 years old I'm 44 years old I 'll be 45 this year So I feel Brazilian I don't have Brazilian citizenship because of my Spanish origin from my father I ended up acquiring Spanish nationality for myself and all my children The grandchildren were not Spanish because they are from Italian countries Italian country Italian family They are all Italian And I honestly like Brazil a lot In the first years when the World Cups It was a very terrible fight even with my son Diego But after more than 25 years 8 World Cups a lot of World Cups I support Brazil more I play for Brazil I support Brazil I play for Argentina Yes I face directly And I push for Argentina to win so that there is no fight Let it be a peaceful game and let the best win Today I don' t care if Brazil wins if Argentina wins In my case Brazil is the best country to receive foreigners Brazilians make foreigners feel that we are not only at home but even better than at home Brazilians are very welcoming I never had a problem speaking this Bolivian I already had this problem in other countries including Latin America Argentina Chile They are very nationalistic I understand that also in Bolivia they speak the gringo Here the gringo the Argentine the Bolivian normally 99% of the people Speak the gringo