3 things car dealers DO NOT want you to ask when you're negotiating a car deal (former dealer)

Screw Driver
87 followers
11 Video Views·Dec 5, 2022
Today Ray and Zach discuss the 3 pieces of information car dealers prefer you don't know when you come in to buy a vehicle. Dealerships make the most money when their customer is not knowledgable about the car buying process. Remember, knowledge is power, and these three things are pieces of information you need to know before you buy a car!
Morning, Dad.
Well, good morning, handsome.
How the hell are you today?
Yeah, I'm doing pretty good.
Had a good weekend.
How about yourself?
I'm glad to hear it.
It's so good to know that that barber strike
hasn't ended yet in the Silver Spring area.
Yeah, one of these days I'll make it out to Annapolis.
I'll go get my hair cut.
I love, there's a barber shop that I go to,
have always gone to.
It's just now a really long bike ride,
so I haven't gone in a while.
Good reason, because who the hell would want
to cut your hair after that long bike ride?
Yeah, exactly, you're a little sweaty.
Hey, well, Dad, let's hop right into today's video.
We're gonna talk about, we've got a good title.
I mean, this is some enticing stuff
that we've got right now.
Is this ClickBait-y?
This is ClickBait-y,
but it's also really relevant and useful.
Okay.
The title of today's video is gonna be
three things car dealers don't want you to know
or don't want you to ask for,
don't want you to come in and be unknowledgeable about
when you go to negotiate a car deal.
And so, Dad, let's run through them.
What are the three things that, you know,
if you are a car shop or a car buyer, you should know,
you should be familiar with.
And we actually, we got a comment recently,
an email from a guy.
You remember this?
I think his name was Adrian.
We'll put it up on the screen,
because it was so cool.
He said the dealer thought he was like older and more not,
you know, because he watches these videos.
So this is a good one we got in store.
So what are the three things?
Well, I would suppose the three things
that they really don't want you to know.
Number one, they don't want you to know
what the market conditions are
for that particular model of car that you're looking at
in their marketing area, okay?
And what I mean by that is how many vehicles,
such as the one you're looking at,
that are available at all the dealerships
in the surrounding area,
and how long it normally takes to sell those cars.
And not to toot our own horn,
but, well, that's information that would be available
through the market price report at, well, I don't know,
yourautoadvocate.com, and it's free.
So that's the type of information
that they don't want you to know.
They don't want you to know how many days
they've had it on their lot.
And the reason they don't want you to know that
is because if it's been on their lot
for an extended period of time,
and they don't tell you that,
well, they can charge you for that car
as if, I don't know, it just arrived the other day,
when in actuality, they're usually more motivated
to sell a car that's been on the lot
for a longer period of time.
And the last thing that a car dealer
really doesn't want you to know is the out-the-door price.
Time out, time out.
Our videos are usually, like, at least eight minutes.
We're, like, a minute in, and you just said the last thing.
We gotta extend this.
You gotta filibuster, man.
I'm just laying out the parameters,
and then you're gonna ask follow-up questions.
Apparently, it's been a week or so since we've recorded any,
and you forgot exactly how this process works.
You're bringing me back up to speed, thank you.
Yes, yes, it's my pleasure,
and I apologize for embarrassing you in the process.
But anyway, the third thing
that the dealer doesn't want you to know about
is what the out-the-door price is
on the car that you're looking to purchase.
And the out-the-door price
is the total price of the vehicle
after the agreed-upon selling price
plus all fees, taxes, title,
dock fee, license, everything.
What's that bottom-line number
as if you were going to write a check for it?
So those are the three things
they don't really want you to know about.
What the market conditions are for the vehicle
that you're looking at in their particular marketing area,
how many days the car they have
has been sitting on their lot,
and what the out-the-door price is.
Now, you might have a series of questions for me
regarding those three things.
I don't know, this could be like a all-time short video
that just gets right to the point.
But no, I do have some follow-up questions.
Okay, cool.
So what would happen back
when you were managing dealerships
that you had someone come in
and they were really all about the OTD price
or kept saying like,
what's the out-the-door number, out-the-road price?
Does that help build credibility
as you're working with someone
and you just say, okay, whatever, here it is?
Or does it build like an adversarial relationship?
I'm kind of curious how our audience is set up
when they go in to ask for these things,
what's gonna play out, what's gonna happen?
It depends on the salesperson
and it depends on the sales manager
and it depends on how they view customers
and how to interact with customers.
One of the things that I used to tell my salespeople is,
yes, there's the eight, 10, or 12 steps to the sale
and it starts with X and it works its way
through whatever that last number is.
And I used to tell my salespeople-
It starts with X and it ends with a number.
I love it.
Whatever, is that calculus or something?
I don't know.
Two college dropouts trying to do math.
Well, I can do car math.
You want me to work a lease in my head?
Anyway, so my point to my salespeople was that,
yes, there's a preferred path that we go down
in order to try and work our way to a car sale,
but we have to be flexible enough
to appreciate and understand
when the customer wants to take a different path.
It might not be our preferred path,
but it's their preferred path.
And so if someone came in and said,
listen, I don't have a lot of time.
This is the car I'm interested in.
This is the stock number of the car I'm interested.
I want to know what my out-the-door price
is going to be on that car.
If it's acceptable, I'll give you a deposit
and I'll pick the car up tomorrow.
Well, you could either argue with that person
or you could give them the information.
You could say something like,
hey, I understand you have a limited amount of time today
and you're in a hurry and give me five,
maybe 10 minutes max,
and I'll have all this worked out for you.
Does that sound fair?
And most people that are that type of customer
are gonna go, yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for.
Five to 10 minutes, let's go.
You have to, as a salesperson and as a sales manager,
you have to respect the wants and the needs
of how a transaction has to go down
from the customer's perspective.
So most old-school dealerships
would wanna fight with that customer
and they're not gonna sell that customer a car.
Most dealerships that understand
the value of taking care of a customer
are gonna do exactly what that customer needs.
So if someone came in and said,
hey, I've got a limited amount of time,
what's the out-the-door number?
Let me get that for you.
I appreciate that your time's valuable.
I'm not gonna waste any of it.
It reminds me then of your comment
about knowing the market conditions as well,
because the better you understand
other similar vehicles in your area,
and you're dealing with a dealer that's like,
hey, no, I don't wanna even discuss OTD.
Like, how do you know that?
Why do you know that?
If you know that there's six other similar
year, make, model, trim in your area,
and one that's been on a dealer's lot
even longer than that other one,
just go have the conversation with them.
It's like with the PPI, Dad, the pre-purchase inspection.
If a dealer won't let you do a pre-purchase inspection,
don't buy the car from them.
It's as easy as that.
Oh, exactly.
And truth be told, if the customer picked a car,
and you have another car that is identical to it,
but it's been sitting on the lot for 180 days,
well, the smart thing to do for that type of customer
is to look at them and go,
listen, I have one that's aged.
It's been here a little longer than we would like,
and I can get you a slightly better deal on that vehicle.
So if you don't mind,
I'm gonna give you two prices today.
I'm gonna give you a price, an out-the-door price
for the car that you asked about specifically,
and I'm gonna give you an out-the-door price
for one that's been on the lot a little longer,
equipped exactly the same way,
but that we're a little more motivated to get rid of.
Would that be okay?
And who in their right mind is gonna go, nah.
I mean, you know, what you're doing
is you're building up a report
showing that you're willing to work with them and for them.
And you know, if you hope to make a car sale,
well, that's pretty much what you gotta do.
Yep, nope, I like the way that sounds, Pops.
We've hit our time limit as well,
so we did a great job at this video.
All the credit goes to you, Dan.
Oh, oh my God, I'm almost speechless.
Thank you for that, Zach.
Your Emmy is coming in the mail.
I shipped it to you.
I wanted an Oscar.
Oh, that's the movie industry, I'm so sorry.
Does YouTube give out any type of awards?
Yeah, if we hit 100,000 subscribers,
we get a plaque, which is super cool.
And then when we hit a million, if we hit a million,
thank you to everyone that subscribes, by the way,
we get another plaque, a silver plaque at 100,000
and a gold plaque at a million.
Man, man, what do they call it in soccer,
the golden boot or something?
Yeah.
Is that what we get from YouTube, like a golden boot?
No, it's a plaque, but I like where you're going with this.
Yeah, yeah, well, then let's pass this along
until we can get to the next video.
Sounds good, Pops, thanks for your time.
Thank you, Zach, love talking to you today.
Yes, likewise, bye.
Yep, bye-bye.
