My Thoughts on Antidepressants and Drugs

Dr. Alex Heyne - Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine
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Being in the field of Chinese medicine is considered generally alternative medicine
in the United States. And you know, when I ask people about antidepressant usage,
they often say things like, but you probably don't believe in that, right? And I think the
language is very interesting to me, so I thought I would take some time to discuss in this video
my personal thoughts based on experience with my patients on antidepressants and drugs.
Hey guys, Dr. Alex Hine, doctor of Chinese medicine and author of the health book,
Master of the Day. So before we jump in, I have two very important links right below this video.
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Now, my general perspective on pharmaceuticals is that they serve a role and they can help people
and a large percentage of them maybe work in a certain percentage of the time
and that they have value, right? Modern medicine has merit. It's there for a reason,
but I have some very strong opinions on it as well. And it's not just based on something
philosophical or being an alternative doctor. It's really based on clinical evidence.
The fundamental thing is I'm very pro most of what conventional care has to offer.
What bothers me is how willy-nilly and readily, for example, antidepressants are given for any
small little problem that comes up or how steroids are frequently used very willy-nilly or how
antibiotics are routinely given repeatedly for the same condition, even though there's no response
and the other symptoms of the patient are clearly getting worse.
So I think modern medicine, pharmaceuticals, antidepressants, I think they all have a role
and they're all valuable. I think there's often big problems in the way they're used though,
but I want to go into two deeper things. One is more philosophical and one is more clinical
and pragmatic. On the philosophical side, I believe that every symptom, including illness,
that's not emergent. In other words, that's not acute and could kill you in the next week or two,
but chronic illness in particular, which is most of what we
suffer from in the modern world. If you are in a developed country watching this
for chronic illness, I believe that the point is that your body is giving you symptoms to try to
find a way back to heal itself, right? Your body doesn't want you to be ill. It is not advantageous
for your evolution and survival to be ill because if you're ill, you don't want to live,
forage, get food, work, have sex, reproduce. You don't want to live when you're seriously ill
chronically. And so these are really antithetical to evolution. So I think that symptoms is a great
word, salutogenic or salutogenesis. The symptoms are trying to give you direct feedback to figure
out how to heal, be normal again. And so I think that symptoms are there to push you on this quest
for healing, to drive you to figure out what your body needs, your spirit needs, what you actually
need, whether it's psychological and emotional or physical, to get well again. I think that is the
fundamental purpose of a symptom. Your body experiences pain to tell you to get off that
sharp stick underneath your foot because it's going to damage the body. The problem with taking
a lot of drugs that I see, and I don't mean illicit drugs, I mean prescribed drugs,
is that you still have the problem just to a lesser degree. And if it dulls the pain of the
symptoms enough, you still have the symptoms, but now you can function-ish well enough that you're
no longer driven on that quest for healing. And that to me is a very, very big problem.
Now let's talk about antidepressants in particular because they are one of the most
over-prescribed, very debatable efficacy drugs on the market, and they're some of the most
profitable drugs in conventional care. So I don't have any fundamental problem with antidepressants.
One of the big things for me that bothers me is that, in my opinion, my observation among people
and my patients, is that antidepressant usage, when you have a difficult life experience,
a death, a trauma, if PTSD, antidepressant prescribing is often just as much cultural
and familial as it is evidence-based. So what I mean by that is that you will find people
who have experiences in their families, some families, their default response by the parent
is if they have a headache, they take Tylenol. If they feel anxiety or depression, or if
they lose their job, they get divorced, somebody dies, their default reaction is to get prescribed
an antidepressant. And you'll have people in another family going through the same difficult
experiences, and their programming, let's just use that word, is that they're going to double down
on their friends and their family. They're going to volunteer. They're going to take as long as
it takes to heal. They're going to do whatever it takes for their physical body, their psychoemotional
and psychological health to be well. And whether that takes one month, or two years, or ten years
of grieving, then they go on that quest for answers, and they double down on the resources
that they have. You also see this in very traditional or indigenous cultures. The way they
deal with particularly hardship, loss, death, illness, is very different from giving somebody
an antidepressant and letting them still sit at home and play video games. So I'm sorry to have
to say that, because I don't believe that it's just, you know, weak people take antidepressants. I don't
believe that. It can easily lend to that argument, right? I don't want this to be like,
if you're weak, you can take it. If you're strong, then you tough it out, you deal with it.
What I'm saying is, I don't think the scientific evidence by itself points to the fact that
antidepressants are how you should deal with difficult life experiences. I think you can find
a lot of evidence that there are other ways, depending on the scale, and the severity, and what
else is going on, that will have the same efficacy. You can look at the evidence yourself on that.
That's just been my experience helping a lot of people through this and getting them off
antidepressants successfully. But there are other questions as well. Two other very important things.
The second is that it is often easy now for hard later, right? Let's say you're experiencing
anxiety, insomnia, a little bit of panic attacks. It's very common in this era. One of the most
common reasons for being prescribed SSRIs, for example. So what I see clinically is that often,
if you take an antidepressant, or God forbid, a benzo, it's easy now for hard later. Because the
antidepressant, the benzo, does not fix the physiological dysfunction. It merely puts in a
little crutch. And when you remove that, unless it's been very, very short term, people feel
horrible again. So easy now for hard later. Easy now meaning I have some symptomatic relief,
but I don't have to change my life, right? I don't have to start exercising. I don't have to take a
little bit more time off work. I don't have to go find rejuvenating activities, or pick up a new
hobby, or maybe take a little bit of a leave of absence to go do whatever grieving I have to do.
Maybe I don't get a dog. Invest in new friendships. Easy now for hard later. But ultimately,
the biggest problem that I see is that it does not fix the underlying physiological problem.
It doesn't fix it. I don't see any patients, specifically, let's just use antidepressant
usage over a long time, years to decades. What guaranteed happens when a person tries to stop
them is that they feel like ----. So if you feel awful after taking them, why would you not go
back on them? There's basically no reason to stay off them if you feel awful. So you get back on
them. The other piece of evidence is that almost always, people need to increase the dosage over
time. More evidence that from a Chinese medicine perspective, your body's physiological functioning
is decreasing. So this compensation is happening where now you need to increase the dosage of your
antidepressant. So let's say, for example, the underlying physiological dysfunction has not been
fixed or remedied. So one year from now, you are in the same or the worst boat,
but you can't see it because you're still on the drug. The problem is if you stop, those symptoms
often will come back. And what I see clinically, in my experience, is the combination of Chinese
formulas with lifestyle and life changes. My patients a year from now are better than they
were a year prior. Now that's a big difference. You're the exact same, but often worse, but you
don't know because you're still on an antidepressant versus combined integrative care to
really address what's been going on a year from now. You will be better with less symptoms than
you were prior. And I think that is the fundamental crux of the issue here. Whether it is, let's get
away from anxiety and depression. They're very emotionally charged issues. Let's go to acid
reflux. It's the same thing. I don't see any of my patients on acid reflux meds get better over the
course of time. So unless you want to be a 33-year-old on reflux meds for the rest of your life,
I would strongly suggest seeking out other options or integrative options because,
like many conditions with chronic internal medicine issues, if you address it from a holistic
perspective over time, many of them can get better or the symptoms can go away. I don't really see
any evidence of that for long-term medication usage. Sorry, that's just my perspective. And my
goal is not to have a patient on formulas for the rest of their life, on any medication for the rest
of their life, unless they're type 1 diabetic, unless they're really old, really severe, or really
chronic illness. They may have to be. But for a staggering percentage of the general internal
medicine problems, the chronic problems we have, I find that in general medication use is not tied
with improvement over time. It's generally you stay about the same and then generally you need
to increase the medication dosage or add another, etc. That is actually all signs of getting worse.
And yet the medication is kind of holding you in this limbo period. So my biggest fundamental
concern is really that I don't see people get better over time. And by maybe not taking that
approach or maybe doing that in addition to an integrative approach, I've seen many, many, many,
many people get better over time or see a resolution of their symptoms to the point where they don't
look like they have them anymore. And that to me is the point of healing. That's the definition
of healing, right? So you don't have to see me, you don't have to see any doctor ever again.
That should be the goal. Can we agree? All right, you guys, that's my fiery rant for today. Again,
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