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It's crappy sleep ruining your progress. Watch this. Our next caller is Tay Wu from California. What's up Tay Wu?
How can we help you? Hey Sal and Adam and Justin and Doug. Good to talk to you and
Adam again. I don't know if you guys remember me at the NCAA event. Oh, yeah
So I'll see you guys again in April for the coaching con so nice to finally talk to you guys again. Oh good deal
I'll see you then. All right. So my question. Yeah. Yeah. See you guys there. So my question is about sleep
so first some of the episodes that I've listened to about sleep and recovery under the importance of that being a trainer and
Relaying that message to my clients and but this
Question is more personal about me. And so you kind of give you a little background
For me my little sleep routine
I do the whole thing as far as no screens or anything stimulating an hour before bed
I read before bed
Get in bed and turn on like orange lights and all that stuff. So I go to bed around 10 30 11 and
Wake up around 5 45
But what I've kind of noticed is for the past I'd say
five to eight year years
I've kind of like
Woken up during the night. So I wanted to say it was like restful sleep
So what happens is I sometimes go to the bathroom so that wakes me up a little bit
But then I can kind of go back to sleep
and then
sometimes I'll just kind of like
Wake up naturally and kind of rub my eyes and just toss around in bed
But the weird thing is when I do wake up, so when my alarm goes off at 5 45, I am up
I don't drink coffee. I don't drink tea or I don't need caffeine to wake up. I'm up and throughout the day
I don't really get energy crashes or anything like that
Which is kind of weird just because
Like I don't think I'm getting restful sleep
because I do toss and wake up during the night and
For days there are some days where I've gotten like three hours of sleep and then I wake up that like
naturally like 730 and
I'm kind of fine during the day. So my ultimate question is I'm still in my 20s and I'm 28
And I've heard like I've talked to some of the trainers and my friends and they're like
Once you turn 30, everything's gonna go to ----. And so I guess that's my question
Is this gonna change?
When I'm 30, or is this my sleep routine all that stuff how physiologically I'm recovering. Is that gonna change when I'm 30?
I just wanted to see you guys input on that. Yeah, your friends are wrong. It's 35
I knew it. No all joking aside
Okay, so there's a difference between
being
rested
Awake and alert and being wired, right? So sometimes
especially when you're young
You get away with lack of sleep and it what it does is it just makes you feel more wired
And so you feel like oh, I'm I'm doing well and it's hard to discern between the two
you said for the past five to eight years, so
Sounds like before you had no issue sleeping. Did anything change in that five to eight year period?
I know you said you don't use any stimulants because that would have been the obvious question
I would have asked so has anything changed in that period of time that could be affecting your sleep. Um, not really I'd say
What time do you work out at?
Like right now around 930 in the morning
Do you drink a lot before you go to bed?
No, not not really I'd say I probably limit my water consumption
Probably around what time like around maybe like eight or nine and sometimes
I'll maybe sip on a
On my water bottle just the tiny sips just because I'm like a little parched but other than that, not really
No, do you do you feel more stressed or anxious in general?
No, that's the thing. So like again like when I wake up at 545, I'm I'm like a positive person in general
So when I wake up, I'm up. I don't hit snooze. I
Don't again don't have any energy crashes
As far as going back to the first question of like anything changing not really
I think the only thing that changed was like my wake up time because back in like high school middle school or whatever I
Could sleep in until like 930 or 10
but once I
Had more clients in the morning of being a personal trainer and coach and then I have meetings in the mornings at 6
So that's when I started to waking up at 545
So when you wake up like sporadically, you know in the middle of the night
You said you go to the bathroom sometimes like do you notice a temperature change like it?
Are you hotter like is there like fluctuations in that?
Very minimal I'd say
There let's see, do you get strange feelings at all when Sal post pictures with no shirt on that's
Adam Adam feels like he's alone in that but I told him all the time
So, yeah, so today we I'm gonna I'm gonna rephrase your question, please tell me if I'm done
Yeah, I'm gonna rephrase your question. Tell me if I'm if I'm on or off. Okay, so
You're asking is hey guys I get
Less sleep than people say I'm supposed to get but I feel great. I have a lot of energy
I don't need caffeine, right? So everything feels good, but I'm I'm worried that something may be off
I just don't feel like it is. Is that accurate?
Right. So like I said in the question like one people turn 30 people all once you turn 30 everything kind of changes
Well, you can deal with it when it happens I mean, okay, so my guess I'm gonna guess here is because there are
There is a polymorphism, you know a genetic difference. It's rare, but there are people who require less sleep than others
So there's a small chance. You could be one of those people
What I would guess it is is that there is kind of unrealized anxiety and stress maybe around work
Maybe you wake up you got to train your clients. You don't want to be late. You want to do a good job
So it's kind of running through your mind and that's kind of affecting your sleep. That's what I'm that's what I would guess
But there's not much to work with here. If you're telling us that you feel great. You've got lots of energy
You don't need lots of stimulants and you're just wondering if it's you know, I wouldn't worry about too much
You're not it's not going to
it's not gonna shave 10 years off your life because you went through a period of
Sleeping, you know less hours than what people say is optimal
So long as you're feeling good
I think the big thing I would just keep an eye on as you turn 30 or 35 as you get older
I mean, I if you were to have talked to me at 28 about sleep. I would have just scoffed about it
I didn't think I was missing anything and and even knowing what I know now
I still don't know if you could have convinced me to put more focus on it because I was I didn't think I was feeling
Anything from it. So maybe you know, you're fine
Maybe like Sal said you're you're an anomaly as far as somebody how many hours you need and maybe you won't recognize
That till you get older and when you do you adjust you and you know, you have the tools
You've been listening to mind pump for a long time. You know what you should be doing
This reminds me of when Doug was messing with that sleep monitor
And it was like a wearable and you know, it's it's got he really got into it, right Doug in terms of like
Like the analytics and like was starting to get a little bit obsessed about it and then actually like interrupted your actual sleep, right?
Yeah, that's correct. Yeah, I became very competitive about sleeping. So I got so worried about sleeping
I started to have poor sleep and here's the thing about turning 30
Okay coming from somebody that is way older few years older than that. Yes, that's bullshit. Okay, I'm just gonna say that right now
at 30
If you think you're gonna have a problem you're gonna have a problem if you don't think you have a problem you take care
Of yourself, you won't have a problem. I'll tell you that right now
Yeah, yeah
I mean if you really want to go deeper if you think there's an issue table
I would work with a sleep expert and monitor. They'll actually monitor your sleep to see what's going on
But there's not much to work with on our end about you know, what you're talking about
Yeah, I'm most concerned about the weird feelings you're getting when Sal do those posts
That's that's the only thing that that's the only thing that stands out. It's totally normal, Adam
There's no normal like Sal says, but yeah, I I guess going back to the
anxiety thing I think
Now that I'm thinking back on it when I had to you know, teach boot camp classes or like clients in the morning
I think there's that that anxiety of like, oh, what if I miss my alarm and it doesn't go off and I think that's
Potentially why?
So yeah, that's what I would guess were you used to happen to me? How were you in school?
Were you like a man? I got to do this. I got to be perfect straight A's
I got to work my ass off or are you like that with other things?
More or less I think well in college I used to be in the marching band
So we would practice we would have to be at the stadium at 7 a.m. So I would wake up at like
Like 530 or 6 just get ready all that
So I guess that's when I had to kind of force myself to be like a morning person
But yeah, middle school high school and I could sleep until like well
Easily great
Do you meditate um
No, yeah, right before I go to was that I start start start a meditation practice
You have some it sounds like you have some unrealized
anxiety that you're not fully
completely aware of and that's what's causing you to wake up early and maybe toss and turn because you're
Maybe anxious about being a good trainer or building maybe focus on something else like creating a problem by you know
Focusing on something that's not really a problem
You know, you know creates its own issue
Yeah, meditation would help I think but meditation is a practice. So it's like exercise
That means you're gonna suck at it for a while. So you got to keep sticking to it
So just keep that in mind if you end up taking the advice with meditation
But it feels like there's some unrealized or on your some anxiety that you're just not
Fully aware of and so it feels like things are weird what's going on?
but the more I talk to you the more it sounds like you have some anxiety about
Being good or being a good trainer or waking up on time or you know showing up on time or building your business
That'll definitely keep somebody, you know, it's like a it's like a movie running in the background of your brain, right?
so and it's just there and
Meditation can help you turn things off or for actually to say it better
Meditation can help you not focus on the movie in the background. So it's just there but that's okay
You're not identifying with it. So that would be the only piece of advice I could give you based on what you gave us
So I hope that helps
Yeah, I think so
I think now that I'm like actually like talking to someone about it
Because I think it's the first time I've like actually like dug deep a little bit into this
yeah, I think the
hidden anxiety part is definitely
I'm obviously dropping my ego of like, oh, I'm always positive. I'm always energetic, but I'm dropping the ego
Maybe I do have some you know for unforeseen anxiety that I've been kind of like pushing down I guess so
Yeah, this yeah, this opened my eyes to a lot of things. Hey, no, that's great
That was actually really really cool change of direction there at the very end with what you just said
That's that's a great first step. So we'll see you at the next event taboo. Thank you for yes, sir
Thank you guys. See you in April. No problem
Yeah, you know boy hat doesn't surround you when you get a client and they would talk to you about stuff and you're like
Oh, this is really weird
But then you keep asking questions keep talking and then they it's like it starts to kind of come out
I I do feel I get the issue. I get DMS a lot like this and it's
in it's it's normally from fans or people that have been listening a lot to the show because we cover a lot of stuff and
Sometimes I feel like people
You know it almost like what Justin would say where they're almost like they're looking for a problem where there's not a problem
They found a diagnosis for something right? They were looking for up. They're like looking for a problem, right?
It's like if he's doesn't need to use caffeine. He pops right up anyway
So I mean sure we could sit here and and act like a bunch of therapists and try to get to the bottom of like
This deep-rooted anxiety. He's actually he's actually stressing over
Something he thinks he should stress about you know, I mean like well
Yeah, it's like you're actually what you're talking about right now
Just the fact you're talking about it is probably doing more harm than what is actually happening at nighttime
So just let it go, you know, I don't think I mean he's got nothing. That's that's pointing towards
This sleep is really really affecting him
It's the thought about him losing the sleep, which is something he got probably from us listen to us
Talk about yeah, and this is the sort of dark side like the biohacking community
I think you get in so much to the nuances of things that are like, you know
You get so obsessed on on every little detail of things and it interrupts, you know
The whole like yeah progress and just to play devil's advocate
It very well could be a situation where the only thing he's aware of is that his sleep is off
But what he's not aware of is why or that he's anxious or you know, I don't know
I don't know about you guys, but I've definitely had lack of sleep
But I'm able to function because I'm wired and because I'm older
I know the difference between wired and you know rested and awake, right?
Right, he might not even be aware of that difference and just be like, you know, I'm doing fine
I pop up and I'm working and you know kind of you know
Burning his body out a little bit and he can get away with it
So it may be that you know, maybe one of those things but I think the overthinking aspect of it
I think it kind of became a little evident as we talked to him a little more, right?
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