Draymond Green, Donte DiVincenzo x Coach Kerr Preview GM4 vs Kings | April 22, 2023

Was Gary back at practice today and is looking good for him to be able to play? Yeah, he was in good spirit. So looking good. Steve, you guys held that team under a hundred points and that doesn't happen very often. I think it happened maybe a handful of times all season. How do you think they did it and were you a little bit even, I mean, encouraged, inspired by what you saw them do without Draymond, without Gary? Yeah, I think it was a great example of why the game has to connect. We talk about it all the time. If you execute offensively and you rebound and you take care of the ball, then it sets up your defense to be more successful. And that was the biggest key in the game. There were a few possessions where we got lost in transition, but we rarely turned it over. We forced them to play more in the half court than we did in the first two games. And, you know, they missed some threes that they'll probably hit tomorrow. But so did we. I mean, that's all part of the playoffs. You know, make or miss shots, that happens. But you want to just take away the basics. And I thought we did a better job of that. Steve, would it be fair if I said the reason Moses Moody played well was because you waited for the right moment to play him? Like if I say, like, this is part of your plan to make people focus on the right thing. So now when you get in the moment, you're ready. Is that a fair assessment? I mean, I was there was never a point in the season where I said I'm going to wait till the playoffs to play Moses, you know, but the entire season was about development. You know, I say it all the time. He's a junior at Arkansas, you know, so he had a lot to work on. And to Moses's credit, he he worked on it all year. And I thought over the last six weeks of the season in practices, in his individual work, in scrimmages with the younger players, he took a big step up and now he's being rewarded and he's rewarding us, too, because of his his maturity and his competitiveness and his and his shooting. So he's he's earned this, but that's how it's supposed to go. And I think that I guess that's we're basically saying the same thing. You know, you just have to earn everything in this league. And so with with the young players, especially, it's, you know, it's it's something that everybody league wide is just trying to sort through. You know, if you're a rebuilding team, you can afford to throw your young guys out and and just, you know, let them play through their mistakes. If you're a team like us, it's a lot more difficult to do that. And so you're just constantly trying to develop without, you know, playing these guys a ton during games. And so you got to earn it. And Moses has earned it. Is is that a product of your situation? Is it better normally to just say, hey, Moses, go out there and play 50 games. And in this situation, you'll be ready. I mean, it's two different paths. Is one better than the other? Is this one just works because of the team he's on with you guys? Well, I think it's a it's an issue that everybody around the league has to figure out for themselves. I think what I think we're seeing organizationally is, you know, we have to decide if we get a young guy. Should we just put him in the G League his entire rookie year? Because I can tell you they're going to develop quicker if they play 50 real basketball games rather than, you know, going against our coaches in a in a three on three. So I think it's with the with more and more players around the league coming to the league at 19 with very little experience and better and better synergy with G League teams, G League franchises around the league. I think you're going to see more and more of that of, you know, maybe drafting a player and just putting him in the G League all year. But you have to have the right roster balance to do that. And you've got to figure all that out. So I think everybody is trying to sort through that. And ourselves included. Another young player, you said before the game that this Kamingin does not have a real matchup and maybe this is in the series for him, maybe a little deke by you because he did play. What were you thinking when he like six seconds into his first and he jacks up that three? And what did he do better than I imagine you thought that was? Well, he eventually made some big plays for us at both ends. You know, he came out of the corner for for a dunk. He got to put back dunk on a Steph Miss. He had a couple of great defensive possessions on Monk where he was really draped all over him. But that's, you know, it goes hand in hand with the with what Marcus was just asking about. It's all development with these young guys. And when the playoffs come, everything is more magnified. Every possession matters a little bit more. And so the tendency really is to to play young guys less in the playoffs. So everything is going to depend on matchups and production. And, you know, going forward, we'll just see how it plays out. But I was proud of JK for bouncing back the other night and playing better after the slow start. Steve, what did you think of the looks Clay got in game three? I mean, not very many easy looks, it didn't seem like. I mean, he hit some big shots down the stretch. Much better second half looks than first half. First half, I thought we were all a little jumpy and maybe a little nervous, just trying too hard. And then the second half, Clay helped break the game open with his drive and kick game. You know, he's putting it on the floor and moving it. And now all of a sudden, drive, kick, swing. We're getting a wide open look on the weak side. And we need more of that from everyone tomorrow. What did you think about, you know, Draymond at the start of the season created what you call the biggest crisis of your Warriors tenure. And then he gets suspended for game three. And what did you just think about the way that the guys kind of rallied behind him? He said that, you know, Steph, Clay, they said that they had his back. I mean, what did you think about the fact that they still have his back, you know, throughout everything? Yeah, I thought our guys really responded well the other night without him and without Gary. We have a very proud group. It's obviously accomplished an awful lot. And Draymond's absence wasn't going to keep them from accomplishing what they wanted to do. And everybody who stepped out on the floor gave us really good minutes. I thought Jermichael was really good. Dante, as we talked about, was fantastic. You know, Moses came off the bench, made some big plays. So there were a lot of guys who really contributed, but that's that's what it takes in the playoffs. I mean, obviously, Draymond is so important to this team and what you do. This might be a silly question, but doing those things that you liked in game three, is it going to be almost easier to then continue that in game four with him back in there? Or are there some things with how you started with, you know, the three guards plus Andrew and Kavon that you liked? You want to play that lineup a little bit more or? Yeah, no, it's a great question. I think the biggest thing is, regardless of what lineup is out there, we got to take care of the ball and we've got to make better decisions and smarter decisions. It was one of the best parts of Steph's game the other night. I know everybody focused on the shot making and the points, but he had four or five possessions where nothing was there. He pulled the ball back out. He got us organized. It was it was just really impressive to see him control the game. And so whether it's Steph, Draymond, Klay, Jordan, you know, all of our decision makers on the ball got to be rock solid. We can't come down like we did in games one and two and try all kinds of crazy stuff and try to hit home runs. And we do that. There's going to be a lot of time outs early in the game. We've got to get organized and efficient right away. Steve Draymond called Steph a master at work last game. Just want to know kind of your perspective as far as his body language or something that you see within him, whether it be on the court or on the bench when he is kind of in that zone. Steph, you're talking? Yeah. I see him really breathing during time outs, closing his eyes, focusing, just being mindful of what what has to happen and getting his rest and relaxing his mind and his body during those three minute time outs. And you can see it's really it's really been helpful for him in terms of his focus. I mean, you know, think about the first play of the series. He came off. There's nothing there. And he throws the ball to Harrison Barnes for no apparent reason, right? That's just focus. And so he understands that, you know, the same thing that makes Steph so brilliant can sometimes cost him a possession or two. You know, just, you know, he just doesn't doesn't think a whole lot. But, you know, the other night he realized he had to think the fact that he could do that and still do what he does with the shot making was pretty impressive. To follow up on that, it sort of reminds me of a pitcher having a no hitter, maybe leave the guy alone, let him close his eyes, let him breathe. You have some other personalities like that, too, when they get in their zone. Draymond Clay is some of what you've discovered about the personalities on your team getting out of their way during a game. Yeah, I think that's it's often my biggest challenge as a coach with this team is to understand when to step in and when when to leave them alone, because often they play the best when I leave them alone. And then, you know, they could be in a good groove and we make a couple of, you know, poor decisions. And that's where I'm faced with that. You know, I don't want to snap them out of this incredible spell there. And on the other hand, take care of the damn ball box out, you know. And so that's the give and take. That's the the line that I walk as their coach. On that sort of line, definitely see Kenny kind of get into guys. I know. Yeah, he doesn't walk the line. Yeah. Is he that just assumed he's going to take care of something? If something needs to be said, do you ever tell him, hey, maybe say something or two, you know, and how important are kind of some of those fiery moments from it? I mean, you want both, right? And that's why you need different personalities on a staff. You know, Mike Brown last year was was really good about being, you know, being fiery when he needed to be fiery. And Kenny's been the same way this year. And so you need both. You need ultimately you want the guys relaxed, but alert and on point. And that's the that's the goal every night. Steve, did you it appeared that there was a little bit of desperation, which makes sense. You're down 0-2. And, you know, if you don't win that game, you're going to be 0-3. But can desperation be sort of combined with meticulousness that you saw in terms of taking care of the ball and those things? I'm wondering if you could just put those two together. And that is that are those factors in play in game three? And can you bring it to game four? Yes, we did it in game three. So we can do it in game four. That's it. They just proved it. So they they they got to do it again if we want to win the series. Well, just off the top, what was the vibe at practice today? It was a good vibe, always a good vibe when you come off a win. But I think, you know, our level of focus is is definitely there. Attention to detail is definitely there, even though we won by a big margin. I think there was a there was a lot of things that we watched on film that we can get better at. And I think everybody was in a positive, you know, one seemed to get better mood. And that was that was great to see. This is a little silly because he's Draymond's. But what's it like folding him back in? I'm sorry, would you say that's folding Draymond back in after he missed a game? It's easy. Draymond is Draymond. Even, you know, it's it's it's odd, like even though he wasn't there, you could still feel like his presence. He was watching somewhere. He was doing it like you could. You could already feel him wanting to, you know, coaching and, you know, critique and get us better. So it's easy. There wasn't he was missed, but the voice wasn't wasn't missed. After having like 48 hours or whatever to watch film and digest the game, just what are some of those areas that you guys need to improve on? You know, I think we did a better job of taking care of the ball. And I think we did a better job of limiting their second chance opportunities. I think that was big in the first two games. And I think we came out, you know, in game three and we did a better job of that. And I think we can even take a, you know, a bigger step in that category. And those two categories is really value the ball. Make them work on the defensive end and, you know, limit their second chance because when they get the offensive rebounds and kick out threes, that's when they're, you know, they're really good. Kavan said ahead of ahead of game two, game three, that, you know, he needed to take it to another level. And did you just sort of see him fueled by Draymond's absence to to, you know, take it, take charge of everything? I think statistically, I think that's the, you know, what you see. But that was Kavan Looney games one and two, I believe, and that was Kavan Looney all throughout the season. I think, you know, when you look at, you know, the stats, Draymond, you know, gets a lot of rebounds. Draymond takes a lot of that, you know, attention of, you know, the main big or whatever it is and whatever the game is. So I think, you know, with Draymond not being out there from the outside, there's a lot more attention. But that was that was the same Looney that we've had all year. And that's what we're going to need going forward. But Looney actually said he wanted to take on more. Yeah. Did you sense that he felt maybe a sense of a purpose, a greater purpose? I think all of us did. OK. You know, I think all of us did. We knew that that was a big the biggest thing is, you know, the communication factor out on the court. And Looney did a great job. Like I said, he's been guarding Savonis all series and he's been doing a really good job. And I think from my standpoint is, you know, that communication factor out there is what he really stepped up game three. And it's definitely what we're going to need going forwards for tomorrow. Draymond, you've obviously been on the championship team first time through with this team in the middle of a series. Do you see anything unique kind of clicking in with this team? Is the operation interesting for you to kind of watch as they go through a playoff series? I think it's interesting because, you know, you look back at our season. We really haven't had this as as a team as a whole, the whole season, you know, getting GP and then getting Wiggs back. So, you know, we've only had this and even game three, you know, Draymond and GP weren't even in the game. So it's interesting to see from my standpoint of how, you know, how amazing it is to see guys adapt and be ready to step up in certain situations. And coaches trust everybody on the on the team. And I think for us, we're just going to keep getting better and better throughout the playoffs. And as long as we can keep tallying wins that, you know, the continuity of everybody being on the court together and having a full team is just going to, you know, we're going to keep getting better throughout the playoffs. We just got to keep getting wins. Dante, the the Kings players have said you guys have done a good job of forcing them to shoot threes that are sort of out of their out of what they're used to getting normally in their in their offense. But they're also missing a good number of open threes. Just curious what you make of the way you guys are defending their three point shooting, what you guys have done well. And and just, I guess, the difference in their postseason three point shooting and during the regular season. I think, you know, they're you know, their message you can see is playing fast and being physical. And I think we just have to match that physicality. You know, it's hard to play physical on both ends. And then have your legs ready to shoot for threes when you when you're being physical with them and trying to make them miss. So that's, you know, that's the emphasis for us is just keep being physical, keep making them work. You know, they're going to make some. And, you know, sometimes you got to tip your cap to them. But the ones that we can control, you know, just make them work as much as possible, be very physical with them and try to wear them down. Dante, Draymond on his podcast called Steph a master at work last game. Just want to know your perspective, whether it be from watching, playing against him or your first season with him. When was that first time that you kind of felt like Steph was in full control as a, quote unquote, master at work? Training camp. Just the way he dissects the defense. Honestly, from day one, you can see it. It's super fun to play with him. And he's, you know, I can't even say it enough how unselfish he is. And, you know, game three, Draymond's right on point. He knew when to attack, when to make plays. And he also knew when to trust his guys around him and give the ball up and let everybody else make a play. Yeah, Dante, how important do you feel like it is to control the pace in this series and what sort of added layer of complication does offensive rebounding for both teams add to to that? Yeah, I think we can control, you know, the pace by taking care of the ball. Excuse me, is we limit our turnovers. That's when they're really good as they get out and run. Even in our makes, we have to turn and sprint back because they're getting it out quick. They're pushing the pace and they're getting the looks that they want. So I think I think us taking care of the ball controls the pace big time. And then offensive rebounds, if we can get, you know, it's it's the hit or miss game of everybody going versus, you know, nobody going at all. We got to know who's on the court, know the personnel that we have out there and who's going to go, who's not going to go. Because if we don't get the offensive rebounds, I think you see it in, you know, games one and two a little bit where we have two or three guys crashing the boards and they just kick ahead when they get it. So just knowing when to go and not to go and figuring it out throughout the game. What value does we got an update on Andre Guadalupe today that he could return to the court for light work in the next week or so? But just what value does he provide for you guys, even though he's not able to play right now? He's, you know, he's the voice. You know, he's like the OG on the team. Everything he says, everybody listens. And he also knows when to be serious and when to keep it light and, you know, and keep everybody in a good spirit. So he's been doing that all year, whether playing or not. And this time is very important for us because, you know, we're going to lean on his experience for sure off the court. Dante, if you had to determine the age, not based on year born, but how how he acts and how he carries himself, how old would you say Moses Moody is? Old as hell. Now, Moses is remarkable. His maturity and his, you know, not to get up and down too much. Like he's always ready. And you see it the last two games. And no matter what the minutes are for him, you know, you know, when you come out of the game, if he's not playing, you know what type of Moses you're going to get. It's it's not they're never different. It's always the same, Moses. And this is a credit to him for sure. So like 30 or like 75, like 50. Dante, I don't think you took a shot in game two. I know the minutes weren't huge there. And there's been some other games where you haven't taken a shot. Do they tell you put some shots up or I know you've got Steph, you got you got you got a lot of other guys, but how important is it to you to be not just aggressive offensively, but put the ball up? I think there's a you know, that's you said the two words. I think the difference is taking shots and being aggressive are two different things. I think when I'm aggressive, good things happen, getting downhill, you know, sucking in the defense, kicking it out or, you know, taking my open shots. I think the tentative, the passive Dante is not what I need personally and it's not what the team needs. I think when I'm aggressive and, you know, playing with a lot of energy, you know, I get rewarded with open shots and also other guys on the court get rewarded with open shots. Dante, you guys have been a different team home and road this season, obviously panned out in game three. What do you make of that? What do you make of the difference between home and road and how much of a home court advantage do you guys feel out there on a day to day basis? You know, we're not paying attention to our road record throughout the regular season. We know it's like, you know, playoffs is a whole different season almost. And we know if we're going to win the series, we have to win one on the road. We're focused on game four tomorrow. We know Chase Center is going to be behind us. They were behind us game three, super loud. So, you know, our job is, you know, take care of business at home and do what we're supposed to do and then go on the road. I don't know, Tuesday or Wednesday and, you know, take care of business over there. And that's our that's our goal. But our first goal is to take care of business tomorrow. We know Chase Center is going to be behind us for sure. Dante, you weren't here last year when when Gary was here and you've now been around him a little bit. What how would you describe what his impact is like on defense? Yeah, I mean, Gary does what Gary does. I mean, it's hard to explain. It's similar to Draymond is, you know, you know, it may not always be textbook of what we're doing game plan wise. But, you know, he's so athletic, his IQ is high that he makes up for certain things that, you know, it allows you to gamble a little bit. It allows you there's certain guys on the defensive end there. You don't have to be textbook and you can make it work and you can play off of other guys. And I think with him, guys on the court, especially the guys that played with him last year, read him well. So if he's doing something that, you know, may not be textbook, they know how to adapt and how to read off of him. So it's huge for us. I think it just gives us a different dynamic. It kind of messes with their game plan a little bit, like I said, because, you know, some of us go off the script a little bit of game plan. And I think that, you know, it keeps them on edge. Over there. And they have to react to what we're doing as well. How are the last couple of days for you? And Steve said you watched the game at home. I'm sure that was tough. How much did you appreciate how the team fought and just kind of your reaction? Last couple of days for me have been great. It's always great after a win. It was very great to see the guys fight and come together the way they did. And go out there and win the game. You know, our message before that was the only objective was to win the game. Not anything that's going on around that. Guys that's on the floor go out and execute the game plan to win the game. And they executed the game plan to T. And so it was really beautiful to watch. And very refreshing, you know. We've never been down 0-2. So to see how, you know, to see guys still respond no matter what the circumstances are. But you're back against the wall to see guys still respond like that. It was beautiful to watch. Tim, I know you addressed this a little bit on your podcast. But what was your emotion when you got the news that you were suspended? How surprised, how stunned, how angry were you? I mean, I think, you know, no disrespect to you, Tim. But I think my feelings about it is irrelevant. My sentiments on it is I strongly agree with Doc Rivers. I think he said it better than anybody could have said it. But as far as being suspended or the game goes, we won. So anything that happened around that or how I felt or how anyone felt, we channeled it the right way. And, you know, you channel that energy the right way, I think that's the most important thing. So a lot of credit to my teammates. Like I said, just handling that news and the adversity and standing on it. You know, we pride ourselves on not being frontrunners. It's a lot of frontrunner stuff that goes on in this league. And we pride ourselves on not being that. When the going gets tough, we get tougher. And guys did that. And that's all that really matters, honestly. Dre, you talked about him on the pot a little bit. But when you saw, like, Moses Moody, and you've seen him do it before, in last year's playoffs, but what is it you think makes him able to step in, like, after not playing and still play such a, you know, a flawless game? He prepares like he's going to play every game. I've said it before. I'll say it again. Moses Moody is probably the most professional guy I've ever played with next to Kevon Loomis. And the way he approaches everything is like a 10-year vet, a 15-year vet approaches, working on his body, working on his game, putting the extra shots up, getting the extra lifts in when there is no scheduled lifts, doing the extra yoga and the different things that he's doing to make sure his body is ready to go. And so I was not surprised by him answering the bell. Every time his number's been called, he's answering the bell. But he prepares that way. When you put the preparation in, you usually see good results. And, you know, every now and then, don't go your way, but it's going to go your way more often than not. And so just to know, you know, how he goes about his business and to see him get rewarded, I thought that was huge. Drayvon, it must have been super surreal to sit and watch your team and be at home. Can you just describe a little bit your emotions while you were actually watching the game? And were you by yourself? Were you with your wife? And was it similar at all to what it was like in 2016? No, it's a different feeling. 2016, we were up 3-1. So whether you lose that game or not, you have more. Being down 2, oh, yeah, you have more, whether you lose or not, but it's different. And so I think for us, just being in a totally different position, like I said, being in a dogfight and not being able to participate, that's tough, not from suspension. Like I said, I've been suspended from game five of the NBA Finals. There's never a suspension that would bother me. There's no game that could compare to that. So as far as my personal feeling about the suspension, it's neither here nor there. Like, it doesn't move me one way or another. But knowing that you're in the midst of a dogfight, you come here every single day all year and prepare for battle with these guys. And then to know you're in the battle, your back's against the wall, and to not be there for them, that's a letdown. So for me, that was it. It's just not being in a dogfight. But as far as how I felt about suspension, I'll get suspended again at some point. It's what it is. Draymond, going back to the first two games, you guys struggled a bit offensively when you and Looney were on the court together. What have you noticed about how the Kings are defending you when you guys are on the court? I think when we were on the court together last game, we were up 29 to 20. So I think it's good theory, but I don't think it actually has played out that way. I think the way we played, we moved the ball, we took care of the ball, we made great decisions and didn't force anything, didn't allow their pressure to bother us. We handled their pressure really well. And when you do that, I think we've been pretty good offensively all season. I mean, all series. I know going into last game, we were shooting 64% from two going into game three. I'm not sure what that is after game three, but that's pretty darn good to shoot 64% from two. And so I don't think our offense per se is what was killing us. I think our turnovers were killing us. I think giving up offensive rebounds on the defensive end were killing us. But as far as just our half-court offense, I think our half-court offense has been strong all series. Trey, you guys had a home court advantage in Oakland that was second to none. Now watching on TV, you might have a little bit of a different perspective on top of last year's playoff run, but how does this place compare to the old place? I don't really get caught up into comparing the two places, two totally different places. Oracle just had a totally different vibe. And you feel that no matter what arena you're in. When you're in Los Angeles, the vibe in the arena when you play the Clippers and when you play the Lakers are two totally different vibes. And so you move a team entire different city, it's gonna be a completely different vibe. You can put the same cast of characters in there, but it's just a different vibe, it's a different gym. And so we don't really get too caught up into that. You embrace it. I think we've created a home court advantage here. We've been very stellar here over the last couple years and teams have struggled to come in here and win. So I think we've created an advantage here and that's what we like to lean into and focus on, but I don't really get off into comparing the two places because it's not apples to apples. It's totally different and you figure that out and you build it. But I think the home court advantage at Oracle was built over 50 years. Like 40 years, whatever it was, that was built over time. We've been here, what, four years? Takes time to build that and saying that teams struggle to come in here and win. So I think we've done a pretty good job of it. Draymond, on your podcast you said that Steph was a master at work last game. I just wanna see if you could expand on that a little bit, but also go back in time as far as when was the first time that you witnessed him being that master at work in a game? I mean, I think we've seen it over the course of the years, right? Like you've seen it in spurts. I've even said this before public. I think 2021, you really saw him take that next step and be able to dominate when he wants to dominate. And so many people got mad when I said that. Like, oh, he's so disrespectful to Steph. Like, but what about the respect of saying he's getting better? Like, that's what we all strive for at the end of the day is to continue to get better, add things to your game. And it's like in 2021, he took that next step of just picking and choosing his spots, knowing when to dominate, knowing when I need to dominate off the ball, when I need to dominate on the ball, just figuring out different things. And then also in, you know, in playing this game together for so long, there's always constant communication. What do you see here? What do you see there? What are you thinking about this? And just the dialogue that he has, like it's totally different than it used to be. And I mean, I think to pinpoint when exactly it was the first time is tough, but I know in those finals last year, it was that. It was what we saw the other night. It was, I won't get sped up. This is what I want to get. No matter what's going on on the floor, I'm gonna make sure I get to that. And that was, it was special to watch because he dominated the game in every facet. And there was total control. You can just tell his intent on everything. It was very loud. It was loud and clear. Okay, I'm not getting to that. This is what I want to get to. And there's really nothing no one can do about that. I thought it was great to watch. Somewhat random here, but they've talked about how you guys know the Kings so well, the Kings know you so well with Mike Brown, et cetera. But Leandro Barbosa is one of those guys too, where you played with him. He was on the coaching staff. Just wanted to see if you have a favorite memory or story of LB as well. Yeah, I don't really give a damn about no memory with Leandro Barbosa right now. We won championship together. Or two, three, something like that. I don't know. But who cares? Draymond, Kings have a historically great offense, number one in the league, best rating and all of that. And they've only been held under 100 points like a couple of times all season. To see your team do it without you and Gary, what was that like and how do you think they were able to do that? Number one, just the attention to detail. Everybody being locked in. Rebounding the basketball. We didn't give them a ton of second chance points like we did in the previous games. And yeah, I don't know what the numbers were. Maybe they were the same, but it just didn't feel that way. I didn't look at the numbers. Or the same. I mean, for me, I just know I'm watching it and what you felt is it didn't feel like we gave up the same second chance points that we had been giving up. I didn't go back afterwards to check the numbers because I didn't really think it mattered. You can feel it. You can feel meeting the force that they had with force. And so I think that was a huge part of it. Not allowing them to get to the paint at will because when you allow teams to get to the paint at will, your defense is broken down and now it's a lot tougher to rebound when your defense is broken down. And so I think they did a great job. It was a total team effort. You know, we were great at the point of attack in watching that game, whether it was Dante on the ball, Wiggs on the ball, Jordan on the ball, Steph, whoever it was, Clay. We were great at the point of attack. And when you're great at the point of attack, you take care of a lot of issues on the defensive side. And I think we did a very good job of that in that game. Draymond, Kavon told us last week that not everybody knows what he does. I mean, the communication, the behind the scenes. And Dante just credited Kavon for the communication the other night. And as a big man, Loon said that is his, one of his primary jobs. What did you, did you see him take it to just another level the other night without you? And how proud are you of that performance? It's huge. To see a guy that didn't used to say a word, I mean, a single word, dominate through communication, like you just have to appreciate the growth, you know? Because when Loon came, Loon was a mute, would not talk. And to see him grow into his own and, you know, figure that out, it is very much so the reason he's become the player that he's become. He is a defensive anchor. And, you know, when we're out there on the court together, then you have two. One of us not out there, you have one. And it's on that other guy to step up and take it up another notch. He took it up several notches. And you can feel that, you know, you could see the comfort in the guys who were guarding the ball, knowing that, you know, they could hear Loon's voice and he was behind them. And obviously he did the work with, you know, with his rebound and playmaking. He was absolutely incredible. So I think that voice is, that voice that, you know, Dante's credit is, you know, seven, eight years of the work that he's put in to get comfortable with that voice and know everything that's going on on the floor and seeing all the pictures develop and being a step ahead of everyone to communicate those things and make sure that guys know at the end of the day, if all else fails, I have him there behind me. And, you know, he can clean up a lot of mistakes. But just having that voice and communication is huge. It's a key for us. Who helped keep this group together back in training camp? You know, when things were going on and- Of course, he's always a stabilizing force. You know, just someone who's right here every day. You know, when you need guys like that, that's just right there every day that can kind of fill out things because they're just in that same space. And, you know, that's Lewin. He's very even-keeled. Very rarely do you see him get upset. Very rarely do you see him get sad. He's just very even-keeled and, you know, keeps a good gauge of everything going on around him. Can I go back to Doc Rivers saying that the league set a dangerous precedent with your suspension, or even what Joe Dumars was explaining, where had he been evaluating a different player, maybe that player wouldn't have gotten a suspension. So looking forward, as far as this precedent, did the league just accidentally create the Draymond rule when it comes to guys, if they feel like these guys have a history or a reputation? They created Draymond rules before. Them don't work. Here I am, still sitting here, still winning. They created those rules before. They didn't work. They still don't work. So maybe they did. But Draymond won't be moved by no Draymond rules. I will continue to play the game how I play the game, operate how I operate, be exactly who I am because that leads to winning. If I was losing, they wouldn't be creating Draymond rules. So as long as they're creating Draymond rules, that means we're winning. And that's great. They can create as many Draymond rules as they want. That's beautiful. But it doesn't change Draymond. So this is what it is. Dre, after the game, Steph on TNT basically said, this was wrong and said, we got your back. Obviously you guys were determined to look ahead and not talk about it. But what were your teammates saying to you? What was their message to you while you waited? And what did it mean? Whatever they said. Their message to me was that they, like you said, they got my back. It was that very message. My message to them was none of it matters. What matters is the task at hand. And to know and feel that they have your back, I think is huge, right? It's a great feeling. But for me, my focus was being as involved as I could be. Regardless of what that is, all right, can go play. There's several ways to get involved. And so I wanted to be involved in every way that I could be involved for them, as I know they had my back and they were involved in every way that they could be involved for me. And it was, it's huge. I think it's huge for this team. This team has been building all year and come to a situation like that where it can go right or left. And you had every guy in there making sure it went right. And that was huge. Is there like a moment between you and Steph or you and Clay, or is it one of those, what's understood doesn't need to be said type thing? Oh, we all talked, right? We all had conversations, but we've been through the rodeo quite a bit. We've seen everything that you can see. And so you understand it. And more so than talking to Steph and Clay, it's everyone else. Making sure everyone else understand. Me, Clay, and Steph have been through everything. We can look at each other and start talking about something and be saying the same exact words, like been through everything you could possibly go through. But it's making sure everyone else understands and is ready for the moments. And every guy that went in there stepped up to the challenge. And that is true definition of champions. That is knowing that you have the leadership around because it's not just one guy that can make that happen. Like it's a cast of guys that's making sure everyone's ready. And so I think for us three, it's not a ton that need to be explained. We talked to a lot of game plan stuff, a lot of things that we knew we needed to do. But other than that, we know the task at hand. Yeah, as a defense first guy, I'm wondering if game three, what you guys did on game three, did it encourage you or inspire you or a little bit of both or neither? Ah, no, it's definitely encouraging. You know, just to see the way guys defended. And in saying that, I think we've been defending well. Just hurt ourselves a lot. And so knowing that we've done the job defensively for the most part this series and we cleaned the things up that we knew we needed to clean up, we give ourselves a much better chance at winning. We did that and it was evident that those are things that need to be done to help us win these games. So yeah, it's definitely encouraging. And now you see that and you're like, all right, I can come and do this, I can do that to help these things and clean up even more. So I think it's very, very encouraging.