Depression is a disease of civilization: Stephen Ilardi at TEDxEmory

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I believe depression is one of the most tragically misunderstood words in the
entire English language. And here's the problem. Depression has two radically
different meanings depending on the context. So in everyday conversation when
people say they're depressed, they use the word depression as a synonym for
sadness. It's the normal human reaction to the slings and arrows of outrageous
fortune. In that sense, all of us know the pain of depression. And yet in a
clinical context, depression is shorthand for a devastating illness. Did I get it?
There it is. Okay. For a devastating illness, we refer to it technically as
major depressive disorder. This is an illness which robs people of their
restorative sleep, robs them of their energy, robs them of their focus, their
concentration, their memory, their sex drive, their ability to experience the
pleasures of life. For most individuals, it robs them of their ability to love
and work and play. And it may even rob them of their will to live. And I'll tell
you why. Because we now know depression lights up the pain circuitry of the
brain to such an extent that most clinically depressed individuals, if you
talk to them and they let their guard down, they will tell you as they've told
me hundreds of times. It's torment. It's agony. It's torture. And many begin to
look to death as a welcome means of escape. Depression is the main driver
behind suicide, which now claims over 1 million lives every year worldwide. Now I
know what you're probably thinking at this point. Man, this talk is gonna be
really, you know, depressing. So I'm gonna give you a friendly little spoiler alert.
It's not. It's truly not. Depression, yes, it is a treacherous foe. But what I've
found in my 20 years of clinical research and clinical work is this is a
foe that can be defeated. That's the good news. And that's the news that I'm going
to focus on for most of the talk tonight. First, a little more bad news. Depression
is now a global epidemic. In fact, if we look in the U.S., we now find that nearly
one in four Americans will experience the agonizing, debilitating pain of
depressive illness by the time they reach age 75. And it gets worse. The rate
of depression seems to be increasing generation after generation. So every
successive birth cohort is having higher rates of depression than the one that
preceded it. Now, I want you to look at these lines. We've got four different
generations on this graph. The green line on the right, that's the oldest Americans.
And by the time they've made it out into their 60s and 70s, they have a lifetime
rate of depression of 10%. That's horrible, but it's much lower than every
succeeding generation. Now take a look at the line that really upsets me the most
is the one on the far left. That's our youngest American adults. Do you see
what's happened? By the time they're in their mid-20s, they already have a rate
of depression of 25%. Remember, we're talking about a potentially lethal,
debilitating illness. Left unchecked, it's an illness that can cause brain damage.
And if we extrapolate that line, by the time they reach middle age, their
lifetime rate of depression will already be over 50%. So what in the world is
going on? What's driving the epidemic? What can we do about it? What causes
depression? Well, on one level, when we ask this question, we're going to face the
answer that it's really complicated. There have been literally thousands upon
thousands of published studies that have identified a dizzying array of factors
that are implicated in the onset of depression. Biological, psychological,
cultural, social, behavioral. But if we wade through this complexity, what we
begin to find is there's a common underlying pathway, a primary driver, a
primary trigger. I call it the brain's runaway stress response. Now we all know
the stress response. We think of it probably as the fight-or-flight response
in its most extreme form. I want you to think about that response and especially
how it was evolved and adapted to service. The fight-or-flight response was
designed primarily to aid our ancestors when they faced predators, other physical
dangers, that required what? Intense physical activity that would go on for a
few seconds, for a few minutes, maybe in extreme cases for a few hours. It's a very
costly response, but fine if it if it shut off when it was supposed to. Here's
the problem. For many Americans, Europeans, and people throughout the
Western world, the stress response goes on for weeks and months and even years
at a time. And when it does that, it's incredibly toxic to the body and to the
brain. It's disruptive to neural circuits in the brain that use
neurochemicals you've heard of, like dopamine and serotonin, acetylcholine,
glutamate. And this disruption can lead directly to depressive illness. It also
can actually damage the brain when left unchecked over time, especially in
regions like the hippocampus, which is involved in memory consolidation, and the
frontal cortex. And it also triggers an inflammatory reaction throughout the
body and brain. And here's what we've learned about depression. The inflamed
brain is a depressed brain. Now this is really intriguing because
epidemiologists have now identified a number, a big constellation of illnesses
that are rampant and epidemic throughout the entire developed world. You can see
the list. Atherosclerosis, diabetes, obesity, allergies, asthma, many forms of
cancer. These are all inflammatory illnesses. They're all illnesses that are
epidemic in the industrialized, modernized world and largely non-existent among
modern-day Aboriginal groups. I believe we need to add depression, clinical
depression, to this list. It shows all the hallmarks of being a disease of
civilization. And you know what that means? It's a disease of lifestyle. So
consider the experience of the Kaluli people, of the highlands of Papua New
Guinea. They've been studied extensively by the anthropologist Edward Schieffelin.
He spent over a decade among the Kaluli. One of his research questions was, how
often do the Kaluli experience the same kind of mental illness that we do? And he
certainly found some forms of it. He interviewed over 2,000 members of the
Kaluli and extensively queried them for their experience of clinical depression.
And you know what he found? One marginal case out of 2,000. That gives them a rate
of clinical depression that's probably about a hundred times lower than ours.
I'll tell you why I find that really remarkable. Because among other things,
the Kaluli lead really, really hard lives. Really. They have high rates of infant
mortality. They have high rates of parasitic infection. They have high rates
of violent death. But they don't become clinically depressed. They grieve,
absolutely. They don't get shut down. What's protecting them? Lifestyle.
Specifically, the Kaluli live a lifestyle very similar to that of our ancestors
over the entire Pleistocene epoch that lasted for 1.8 million years. Did you
know that 99.9% of the human and pre-human experience was lived in a
hunter-gatherer context? So what does that mean? Most of the selection
pressures that have sculpted and shaped our genomes are Pleistocene. We're still
really well adapted for that sort of environment and that sort of lifestyle.
I'm not saying there hasn't been any change since then because, of course, 10
to 12,000 years ago we had the invention of agriculture and there has been some
genetic selection over that period of time. It's been more minor. But what
happened 200 years ago with the Industrial Revolution? It's been termed
radical environmental mutation. I like that term. It's as if modern American and
Western life is radically discontinuous from everything that came before. Our
environment has radically mutated. But how much has the human genome changed
over the last 200 years? It hasn't. It hasn't. That's eight generations. It's not
enough time. What does that mean? There's a profound mismatch between the genes
that we carry, the bodies and the brains that they're building, and the world that
we find ourselves in. I'm going to put it for you as pithily as I can. We were
never designed for this. We were never designed for the sedentary, indoor,
socially isolated, sleep-deprived, fast-food-laden, frenzied pace of modern
life. The result? An epidemic of depressive illness. Now, I'm a depression
researcher. I was trained in a traditional form of psychotherapy. I was
trained in a context where I learned all about antidepressant medications. And I
want to tell you right at the outset, I am not anti-medication. I believe in
fighting depression with every possible tool that we have. But you know what? If
we only throw medication at this epidemic, we are not going to fix it. At
least we haven't so far. How much do you think antidepressant use has gone up
over the past 20 years? Would you care to guess? I like that guess.
1,700 percent. It's gone up over, over 300 percent. So you're close.
Over 300 percent. And what's happened to the rate of depression in the interim?
It's continued to increase. One in nine Americans over the age of 12 is
currently taking an antidepressant. One in nine, currently. One in five, according to
some estimates, have tried it at some point. Have we solved the epidemic? No, we
haven't made a dent. The answer, I believe, is a change of lifestyle. Now, you'll see
behind you a list of six lifestyle elements. When my research team and I,
seven years ago, had this epiphany, we got together and we started scouring
through the depressive literature, asking the question, what are the Kaluli doing
that's protecting them? Specifically, based on everything we know about
depression, what did our ancestors do that protected them? And we quickly found
six factors that change neurochemistry, six factors that are known to be
antidepressant, six factors that we can reclaim and weave into the fabric of our
day-to-day life in the present, to protect ourselves from this devastating
illness. And so we designed a new treatment program. It was really
ambitious, I admit that. Did I think it would work? I really wasn't sure. You know
what? I was not trained as a psychotherapy, as an interventionist
researcher. I was doing basic neuroscience psychopathology, but I had a
passion to see this epidemic brought to its knees. I had a passion to treat
individuals whom I knew who had tried everything and were still depressed. And
so, with great trepidation, we set out to design this program. The results have
exceeded my wildest dreams. There are six major elements. I'm going to run
through them as quickly as I can in our remaining time. The first is exercise. Now,
exercise is good for us. How many of you, can I see a show of hands, how many of you
came in here today knowing that exercise is really, really good for us?
Right? Every hand goes up. Now, has it changed your behavior? For some, yes.
Everybody knows that exercise is good for us. Here's the problem. Many people
have trouble making it happen. And you know what? A lot of people don't realize
just how good. Exercise, I'm going to say something that may be a little bit
controversial. I'm going to go ahead and say it. And I'm not speaking metaphorically.
Exercise is medicine. Exercise literally is medicine. It changes the brain and the
body in beneficial ways that are more powerful than any pill you can take.
Yeah, I said it. More powerful than any pill you can, in fact, I'm going to say
something even more controversial. If you could take the neurological and
physiological effects of exercise and capture them in a pill, all the
beneficial effects on neural signaling in the brain, the anti-aging effects, all
the way down to the level of chromosomes in every cell of your body, the mental
clarity enhancing effects, I believe, tell me if you think I'm crazy, I believe that
pill would become the best-selling drug of all time. And I think people would pay
any price to have it. There's a problem, though. We don't exercise. We don't. CDC,
again, tells us that 60% of all American adults get no regular physical activity.
And yet, if we look at hunter-gatherer groups, they get four or more hours of
vigorous activity every day. In fact, they look like elite athletes, even when
they're in middle age and beyond. Here's the thing I love, though. If you ask them,
they will tell you they do not exercise. They don't. They do not work out. Working
out would be crazy to them. What do they do? They live. They live. Here is
I know. I know. I like it, too. Here's the dirty little secret in the business. And I
really want you, if you remember nothing else from this talk, exercise is not
natural. We are designed to be physically active in the service of adaptive goals.
We are not designed to exercise. When you put a lab rat on a treadmill and crank
that thing up to the point where it's moving faster than it wants to move, you
let it, it'll squat down on its haunches, and the treadmill starts to wear the fur
and the skin right off its backside. So it kind of feels our pain, right? When you
stare at a piece of exercise equipment, there is a piece of your brain that's
screaming out, don't do it! You're not going anywhere on that thing. So how do
we solve this conundrum? In our treatment program, we've done two things. We've made
exercise natural, and we've made it social. What's the most natural activity
in the world? Walking. And guess what? Brisk walking, you know the kind, like
you're late for the bus, like you might miss your plane, that kind of walking,
will get your pulse up in the aerobic range, and that's where it needs to be,
based on your age, depending on your age, it needs to be, but your pulse needs to
be between about 120 and 150. That's enough to enhance signaling in your
dopamine circuits, your serotonin circuits. It's been tested head-to-head
against Zoloft twice in the long term, it won. At what dose? 30 minutes, three times
a week. That's a low dose. It can change your life. Now, I wish I had time to cover
everything else that we need to cover, but I'm going to tell you about one more
thing, omega-3 fats. Did you know that your brain is mostly made out of fat? Did
you know the brain is 60% fat by dry weight? So if somebody calls you a fat
head, they might be paying you a compliment. All right, here's the thing.
Our bodies can make all the fats that we need, with two exceptions. They're called
essential fats. You've heard of them, omega-6's, omega-3's. They play
complementary roles in the body and the brain. Omega-6's are inflammatory,
omega-3's are anti-inflammatory. We need them in balance. We're designed to have
them in balance. Omega-3's come from grasses and plants and algae and the
animals that eat them. Omega-6's from grains and nuts and seeds and the
animals that eat them, which is, by the way, most of our meat supply. Our
hunter-gatherer ancestors got omega-6's and omega-3's in the optimal
balance, which is roughly one-to-one. We can do fine at two-to-one. We can
probably even do okay at three-to-one. But guess what? The modern American diet,
which is riddled with fast food and processed food and grain-fed meat, you
see the ratio there? Seventeen-to-one. Seventeen-to-one. Things are way out of
balance. It's very heavily inflammatory. It's very heavily depressant, and that
suggests to us, of course, that if we could supplement with omega-3's, that
might just be antidepressant. Guess what? Over a dozen controlled research trials
have now shown this to be the case. What's the antidepressant dose? I'm going
to leave you with this, hopefully, important tip. The best research suggests
that there's a specific omega-3 molecule. It's called EPA, and at a dose, this is a
pretty high dose, of 1,000 to 2,000 milligrams per day, it's shown to be
antidepressant. Many of our patients have benefited remarkably, not just with
respect to their depression, but other inflammatory conditions as well. My own
story, when I began supplementing with omega-3's several years ago, the
tendinitis in my knees went away, and I could start running full-court
basketball again. The dryness in my eyes cleared up, and I could keep wearing my
contacts. It's remarkably health-promoting in many different ways.
Now, for those of you who want to get more details about this treatment
program, I'm just going to zip ahead, because I'm out of time. There's a lot
more to share with you. I don't really talk about cows. We are designed as a
very social species. We're designed to connect. Did you know that FaceTime, time
in the physical presence of our loved ones, actually puts the brakes on our
stress response? Did you know that our ancestors spent all day, every day, in the
company of their loved ones, their friends? Think about the extensive FaceTime
they shared with the people that matter most, and what have we done? We've traded
FaceTime for screen time, FaceTime for Facebook, is that better? And the result
is devastating. The result is devastating. We're born to connect. We need that
connection in our treatment protocol. We work very, very hard to help each
depressed individual resist the urge to withdraw, because when you're ill, your
body tells you to shut down and pull away. When you're physically ill with the
flu, that's adaptive. When you have clinical depression, it's the worst thing
in the world you can do, even though every fiber of your being is telling you
exactly the opposite. We've got lots of good data on our outcomes, and as I've
said, they've exceeded our wildest expectations. Most of the patients that
have come to us have tried meds, and they haven't gotten well. Most of them have
tried traditional therapy, and it hasn't been the answer. The majority have gotten
well, as they've been willing to change the way they live. We had a man, a year
and a half ago, who had been fighting depression for 41 years, consecutively.
And it was one of the happiest days of my life when he came into a session
after 14 weeks, and he looked around the room with tears in his eyes and said,
this is what I remembered it felt like to be free. It can happen. Now, we're still
working to improve this program. We're still working to make it better. I wish I
had time to share with you some of the things we're learning. For those of you
who want to learn more about it, I'd invite you to go to our website. We have
lots of details. I wish you all a joyful and depression-free life. Thank you.
