Mia Khalifa FIRED After DOUBLING DOWN On Celebrating Civilians being Killed In Israel

Timcast
15 followers
Oct 11, 2023
So yesterday we talked a bit about Mia Khalifa expressing her support for Hamas and I find
it deplorable.
But it is what it is.
I mean, we're dealing with a massive conflict and of course you're going to see a lot of
the support from the far left.
But now it is being reported that Playboy has fired Mia Khalifa over her support for
Hamas.
She's doubled down, calling Hamas freedom fighters and defending what was the killing
of civilians.
I mean, there's there's tons of videos of it.
So if you don't believe it or whatever, you go on Twitter and you can't escape it.
I certainly understand propaganda.
I understand fake videos can be made.
But yeah, there's there's too many of these videos from too many angles.
So the only real conspiracy theory that could come close to reality is that Israel knew
it was coming and did nothing, which I also don't believe.
I mean, come on, there's there's tons of things that Israel can do if they're trying to justify
some kind of action in Gaza or whatever.
This has been absolutely insane.
But let's let's jump now to the question of free speech and where we're currently at.
We have this from just the news.
Playboy and others fire Mia Khalifa after porn star mocks slaughter of Jews in Israel.
Playboy and other media outlets fired the Lebanese porn star after she glorified the
rape, kidnapping and slaughter of Jews in Israel.
Here's a quote.
Playboy has always been a champion of free speech, they said in an email to Khalifa after
deleting her channel on its creator platform.
We also have no place in our company nor on our platform for speech that is hateful and
dehumanizing.
Your recent statement celebrating Hamas attacks on innocent men, women and children in Israel,
including rape, mutilation, killing and torture are disgusting and reprehensible.
OK, is this cancel culture, my friends?
She was expressing her opinion.
Should you be fired for it?
Let's read a little bit more and then I'll get into that moral philosophy.
Khalifa made several controversial posts on X, formerly Twitter, after Hamas invaded
Israel, resulting in the deaths of more than 900 Israelis.
I believe it's substantially more than that.
I think it's up to 1600 now.
Eleven Americans are dead.
Hamas, the US State Department designated terrorist organization that controls the Gaza
Strip, also claims to have kidnapped 100 Israelis.
If here's I believe this is what she said.
If you can look at the situation in Palestine and not be on the side of Palestinians, then
you are on the wrong side of apartheid.
And history will show that in time, dude, they killed civilians.
They tore down the fences, stormed in and murdered civilians.
If you can't see the difference between people fighting for freedom and those who have an
ideological bent to murder anyone in the area.
Let's play a game.
A group of people are on land, milling about doing their thing.
A bunch of other people with more powerful weapons come in and then put those people
in a camp.
The people in that camp say, I got an idea.
Anyone here 75 years later is a fair target.
It's like, dude, listen, listen.
You want to break free?
You want to get out?
You want to talk about war?
We can reduce it all the way back thousands of years.
It's never going to end.
The people who are arguing, it's actually their homes, bro.
People are arguing.
This is this is the issue.
And everyone thinks they're smarter.
And then all the answers say you're naive.
You don't get it.
Both sides say this.
I don't care anymore.
You've got one group saying it's my land.
There's other groups saying it's my land.
Yeah.
But before you're it was yours.
It was mine before it was yours.
It was mine.
What am I supposed to do?
I got no answers for you.
I can only tell you.
How do we stop the fighting?
If one group is going around and killing civilians and it's on video.
I don't tell you.
They say that Israel's bombing civilian targets, either bombing targets.
It makes no sense militaristically for Israel to just randomly blow up civilians.
They're targeting areas where there are weapons stored and Hamas leadership is using as base
of operations and they use human shields.
Hamas, as we've already seen from far leftists, believe that anyone there is a colonizer stealing
their land and their fair game.
That's what I don't tell you.
And this is what Mia Khalifa is defending.
But again, this is not a brutal subject.
Another post, which has since been removed from the platform, Khalifa said, can someone
please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal?
This is a really funny thing.
Sirius XM Canada radio host and comedian Todd Shapiro became the first person to fire Khalifa,
which he did via X saying, consider yourself fired effective immediately.
Simply disgusting.
Beyond disgusting.
Please evolve and become a better human being.
The fact you are condoning death, rape, beatings and hostage taking is truly gross.
No words can explain it.
Your ignorance.
Shapiro said Saturday evening Khalifa responded to Shapiro on Sunday saying, I want to make
sure there's 4K footage of my people breaking down the walls of the open air prison they've
been forced out of their homes and into.
So we have good options for the history books that write about how they freed themselves
from apartheid.
Please worry about your sad little company lacking direction and purpose before you utter
my name again.
There's videos of civilians being murdered and these people lie about everything.
That's all I can say.
I just I'm disgusted by it.
And it's interesting questions.
I think we have moral lines.
I do.
When it comes to cancel culture.
The problem is not that someone might be fired for saying a naughty word.
The problem is when words are taken out of context.
And the problem is when they dig into your history and regardless of your actual stance
today or apologies or however you feel, they attack you and try and get you fired.
Somebody post 10 years ago, controversial opinion.
They then say, hey, this person person posted a nasty thing 10 years ago.
And I'm like, shut up.
OK, that's just stupid.
Someone says something and they say, what do you really meant was this?
OK, you're fired.
What?
No, I didn't.
For example, one of the first instances of cancel culture was a woman who was flying
on a plane and she made a post about AIDS in South Africa.
It was meant to be snarky and actually a fairly woke joke.
But instead, it was taken as racist and she lost her job.
I'm like, dude, come on, seriously, I'm torn.
I really am.
Obviously, there are people at Timcast who are very anti establishment, anti neocon and
oppose a lot of what Israel is doing.
You're allowed to have your opinions.
But boy, does it get heated.
So my my my view on this is, man, it's tough.
I don't know that I can absolutely say that if someone at Timcast made the statements
Khalifa made, I would immediately fire them over it.
I don't I don't know that I could do that.
But I would lean towards maybe you don't want to be here is the is the bigger question.
But we've had people who work here who have tweeted very shocking things.
And I never tell people to take it down.
I just I just won't do it.
I just don't.
There have been certain circumstances where we've had people post things that are shocking,
controversial statements.
And my only response is, have you considered have you considered what the ramifications
of your statement and your media posts would be in the in the in, you know, in the greater
public?
And the answer is yes.
And I said, OK, all right.
What can I say?
There are certainly some there are more lines I have where I do think someone could post
something where I'd absolutely be like, dude, I'm sorry, I don't want to work with you anymore.
And that's it.
No one is entitled to the money of the Timcast Corporation.
And if you hold certain views that are extreme and abhorrent, that would escalate things
to war, conflict and violence.
And I decide that I don't want to work with you over it.
I think that's actually fair.
It's a mutual arrangement.
It is not a punishment.
It is not like, how dare you defy my whims?
It's hey, like, I don't think we mesh as a group.
Maybe maybe we should go our separate ways.
But I've not done that.
And I don't know.
I think I have a higher tolerance than many on the left.
Like you say something like, I just kind of want to vote for Trump.
You're fired.
You're racist.
You're hateful.
And that's the issue.
The issue I think we take is more of where our moral frameworks lie.
And for me, it's kind of like if there's videos of civilians being murdered and you're gloating
and laughing and celebrating it, I'm probably going to have an issue with that.
And, you know, I honestly don't know what my initial reaction would be.
I think there would be like a meeting, a conversation.
And it wouldn't be so knee jerk like like if someone like Mia Khalifa was working here
and said something like this, I'd probably be like, let's talk, let's have a conversation
about it.
And then my response would probably just to be like, if we don't agree on this, I only
ask you really tone it down, because, dude, I oppose war, conflict and civilians being
murdered.
And we have values that we represent here.
Like we're fairly anti intervention here.
Cassandra Fairbanks, for instance, she's been tweeting quite a bit.
She's she's 100 percent, absolutely anti intervention.
And that's absolutely OK.
Totally fine.
I just don't know if I could ever work with somebody who would justify the murder of civilians,
be it a Palestinian or Israeli.
Right.
I think, you know, as I've stated, it's like I don't like that civilians die in Israel,
but it's war and I don't have any answers.
If Hamas storms in and kills civilians, but then claims they're returning home, I see
that as a lie.
If Israel says we are targeting Hamas and the Al Qassam brigades and we've given warning
to civilians, it's bad.
It's still bad.
Civilians shouldn't be dying.
That's why it's like when people call for a ceasefire.
I'm like, man, it's tough.
A ceasefire after Hamas kills a bunch of people and continually fires rockets, 5000 rockets.
What do we do?
I don't know.
I just don't.
And so I just hope that everybody has one simple stance of we all recognize civilians
dying is bad and we hate it.
We lament it.
I'm sorry it's happening.
You start there and I say, OK, I don't see any justification for what Hamas did.
Killing civilians.
They didn't need to do that to obtain their objectives.
Burning down houses.
I watched a video.
The videos could be fake.
I get it.
But I'm like, dude, I don't think all these videos are fake, man.
I saw a video of people being killed point blank range like these.
These videos that come up are brutal.
Some of them I think are probably fake.
It's war.
It happens.
It's propaganda.
But when they celebrate this stuff in New York.
So this is the big question I have for all of you.
I suppose it pertains to me, a Khalifa.
Should she be fired for this?
Or should they just be like, you have your opinions, man.
We don't come to you for your opinions on Israel.
I think, obviously, as people pointed out, if your boss is has the last name Shapiro,
you might want to consider not celebrating the death of Jewish civilians in this conflict.
But this is this is war, war's hell.
I think people could be even if you support Palestine.
Right.
And there are people who absolutely do.
You can at least come out and be like, no one supports or no one should be supporting
what Hamas did.
OK, it is detrimental to the people of Palestine.
It is detrimental to the stability of the region.
And storming in by a paraglider and hell and everything they've done, it did not help the
people of Palestine.
It made things worse.
And it continually made things worse.
But the problem is these people are ideologues and they've resigned themselves to say they
would rather lose and see civilians die than give up the fight.
What do you do?
There's a lot of questions.
If your neighbor was taken over by far left extremists, your buildings were seized and
your city gone and you were kicked out and then you're like, well, how would you feel
about that?
Would you just say it's it?
They've won.
Would you fight back?
I mean, honest question.
And that's how these people feel.
I don't see why you would go in and Antifa takes over a bunch of buildings, rents it
out several years later to some like random family.
How does it make sense to go in and then attack the family?
That's just how I see it.
I'm like, I can understand wanting your land back if it was seized by oppressive forces
in your view.
But how does that justify just burning down properties and killing families?
You're not securing territory, you're just killing people.
So I guess that this is a tough question.
Should Mia Khalifa have been fired?
I got to be honest.
I like lean slightly towards, yeah, not should be, but like the guy who owns the company
has a right to do it.
And these are shocking statements.
But I wonder if there's there's better ways of dealing with this.
And the reason why I say this is when it comes to cancel culture, the questions are, is it
out of context?
Is it old or in the past?
Did it come from the person?
Is it a true story?
Are there other ways to resolve the issue?
And more importantly, I think they may have been they may have done more towards peace
and understanding if they approached her in private before just firing her publicly.
I'm not the arbiter of morality, my friends, but I do think that when it comes to whether
or not someone should be banned for speech, it's not really about free speech.
A lot of people just recognize there are moral lines.
And for this one, a lot of people rejected it.
But I don't know.
I honestly think her statements are disgusting, but it's tough.
Was she advocating for more death is the question.
For me personally, it feels like when you get to that point where you're celebrating
the murder of civilians, like you've crossed a moral line that I can't I can't support.
If your advocacy is opposed to war because of the death of civilians and because of this
conflict and stuff like I get it, I don't know, I'll throw it to you guys.
What do you think?
I'll leave it there.
Next segment's coming up at 6 p.m. on this channel.
Thanks for hanging out and I'll see you all then.
