Torquato Tasso, "King of Poets" – Ep 8

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In this first installment in a series about forgotten epic poems, the host examines why Tasso's "Gerusalemme liberata," one of the most influential works of post-medieval literature, has suffered a radical reversal of status in the last century. The poet's colorful life and legacy is explored, interspersed with passages from his great epic.
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welcome to classical poets live I'm your
host Andrew Benson Brown representing
the Society of classical poets I am
taking a different track with this
episode I am not going to interview
anybody nor even rant about the problems
of the Contemporary poetry World which
are legion but I'm not going to focus on
that at least directly in in this
episode what I want to do instead going
to spend some time talking about one of
the greatest books you've never heard of
or if you have heard of it you've
probably heard of it only in passing and
you don't know much about it you may
have even heard that this book is a bad
book and that book is Jerusalem liberata
The Liberation of Jerusalem or Jerusalem
delivered is another translation but I
like the liberation of Jerusalem the
title is just uh it's a little more
grandiose this was an epic poem written
by tato taso it is about the First
Crusade the Christians are the good guys
the Muslims are the bad guys and just by
me giving that briefest of synopses you
can probably guess why you've never
heard of it because you're really not
allowed to write something like that
from the kind of good versus evil Clash
of cultures perspective today we are
living in a diverse world where there
are no bad foreigners and no human being
is illegal or so we're told but I'm not
just saying that this is one of the
greatest books ever because I like the
poem which I do but it was actually for
a long time objectively considered by
pretty much everybody in Europe to be
one of the greatest books ever and I
want to explore how that is and why that
is and who taso was because it was a
very interesting person but first i'm
just going to start by diving into the
poem itself a little bit and reading a
few stanas from the opening Kanto now
this is the Oxford World Classics
Edition I have was translated by Max
wicker it is a recentish translation 209
so it's a new translation basically and
I think it's the best one that's ever
been done because it's in OTA Rema and
it Rhymes so you really get the feel and
the suppleness of the original and way
that was actually never really available
to this degree until now there was uh an
Elizabethan translation translated by uh
this poet Fairfax I've read a lot of
that one and I thought that that one was
pretty good but this one is the best and
I'm going to let you get a feel for this
poem by just reading the first two
stanzas here I sing of War of holy war
and him Captain who freed the Seiler of
Christ greatly he wrought by force of
mind and limb and greatly suffered nobly
sacrificed vainly did hell oppose him
Asia Grim vainly combined with Libya
hell enticed Heaven favored him and
guided back to fight under his sacred
flag each errant night oh Muse not you
who upon Helicon Garland your brow with
long since faded Bays but you who among
Heavenly choirs Dawn your golden crown
of deathless stars always breathe in my
breast Celestial fire shed on my song
your light and pardon if my lays
embroidering the truth seem overgrown at
times with Pleasures other than your own
so there's a number of things going on
here just starting with the second
stanza rather than the first uh it's
interesting how taso appropriates the
Muse he does not reference the classical
Muses of Greece who upon Helicon Garland
their brows with long since faded Bays
instead his Muse is a Christian Muse uh
you who among Heavenly choirs Dawn your
Golden Crown of deathless stars always
this seems you know just kind of like a
small thing but it's actually a very
significant innovation in Epic in this
respect because prior to this The Muse
always referred to the pagan gods not to
Christianity and if we move to the first
stand of the first two lines I sing of
War of holy war and himm Captain who
freed the seor of Christ the first line
refers to of course Virgil anad which is
typical of almost every great epic uh
but it also refers to arosto or Lando
Furioso who arosto himself riffed on
Virgil but the way he did it was the
note in the back describes it a
mischievous elaboration ladies Knights
arms loves courtesies and bold Deeds I
sing and then the the captain who freed
the Seer of Christ in the second line
refers to the hero of the poem who is
Godfrey of bulah the most popular leader
of the First Crusade and The Man Who is
credited with capturing Jerusalem in
1099 and who is made the first ruler of
that conquered City actually although he
died a year later he didn't rule for
very long now I'm going to jump ahead a
little bit and read a few more stanzas
that pertain to this character said God
unto his messenger go find Godfrey and
ask him in my name what need for more
delay why is the fight declined by which
enslaved Jerusalem shall be freed let
him call his Chiefs to counsel and
remind the truants of their task for he
shall lead I elect him here on Earth
through their election they once his
peers shall fight by his
Direction he spoke and eagerly did
Gabriel speed to perform his bidding and
an heir render Ed his viewless Spirit
palpable with Mortal Limbs and shape of
an age somewhere between Boyhood and
youth such human shell but charged with
awe and Splendor everywhere he made his
own and fixed upon his Maze of golden
curls a nimbus of white
Rays White Wings he dawned with tips of
gold whose climb is indefatigably Swift
and sure with which through winds and
clouds he soared Sublime above round
Earths and oceans curvature so garbed
down from eternity to time from purest
regions to a world impure he swept and
first upon Mount Lebanon paused balanced
on extended Wings then on toward Toro's
Coast he veered in Flight precipitously
down upon his Embassy just then the sun
was Rising into sight the face of dawn
still half hid in the sea while offering
up his customary right Godfrey was
praying to the deity when by a second
son the light increased and the Angel
Rose before him from the East saying to
him Godfrey behold the day of battle is
at hand the seasons mend why then this
interval wherefore delay to free captive
Jerusalem go send for all your Chiefs
and Council and invade the liards to
remember the great end you hereby God
ordains their leader and freely they
shall submit when you command so if you
noticed um we very quickly move beyond
the mere historical account and we go to
heaven and we see Gabriel delivering the
message of this Divine Mission from the
almighty to Godfrey of bong now it has
to be said if you didn't already guess
this the poem is not very historically
accurate um although in tasso's defense
he was drawing on medieval Chronicles to
write this thing especially the account
of a William of Ty a 12th century
chronicler they just weren't the most
accurate accounts so a historical
fiction writer is really only as good as
his sources but beyond this I would say
that if you're really that concerned
about accuracy uh you might be one of
those snobs who only reads non-fiction
books and you probably know the type if
you want to be factually accurate just
don't write historical fiction because
you need to embellish things to make
them entertaining uh my own view is that
a good work of historical fiction should
have a
6040 ratio that is it's more than half
accurate maybe around 2/3 accurate but
when you go beyond that 80% accurate
you're really straining into the
territory of the thing that you're
writing about is just becoming
incredibly boring so taso like all great
poets was not concerned with recording
just mere historical facts although he
was concerned with that and did that to
the best of his degree really more
importantly taso had a vision and he
alludes to this in the beginning of this
poem uh at the end of the second stanza
that I read he invokes a muse he writes
about embroidering the truth and and
then in the third stanza he continues
that line of thought you know how where
Paratus most propers its flattering
sweets the world flocks in Delight yet
how by charming and malifu verse truth
has disposed the most depraved to write
as sometimes to a feverish child the
nurse holds out a glass with sugared Rim
her slight tricks him to drain the
bitter draft so stealth restores him and
delusion gives him health so we see here
that the theme of this St is pleasure
flattering sweet delight Charming malous
verse and we end with the metaphor of
the nurse sugar in the rim of the cup so
the child can swallow the bitter
medicine so stealth restores him and
delusion gives him health so we see that
part of artistic license is in fact
deception or as Dante memorably put it
several centuries before taso the poet
tells beautiful lies
and so what are some of these beautiful
lies in regards to tasso's poem well uh
the most glaring is about the hero
Godfrey ofula himself taso paints him as
being very wise in chalri and Noble but
in real life he actually employed
treachery to take Jerusalem he did some
you know devious things which tasso
describes not at all in the poem he was
heavily idealized now to be fair I think
that Godfrey gets a little too much of a
bad rap today as many historical
European figures do uh there's this
tendency of course to project our values
onto the past and to just shake our
finger at everybody celebrating the
First Crusade is of course a big no no
today because the Crusades were
imperialistic and aggressive and about
Conquest now the obvious response to
this which you're not allowed to say is
that the Muslims had been invading
Europe for centuries before the Crusades
and would continue Contin to invade
Europe for centuries after and they only
failed because of leaders like Charles
The Hammer Martell and John hunat the
Battle of Tours and the siege of belgrad
were more than 700 years apart and even
after belgrad for centuries the ottoman
Turks continued to invade but the
Crusades the one time where the
Europeans fought back and the Knights
took the fight to the enemy's Homeland
now tasso's portrayal of Godfrey himself
was very much it should be said the
standard view of the time from the time
of Godfrey's death in 1100 to really
just about 100 years ago Godfrey was
idealized to a very high degree he was
one of the nine worthies you know this
Elite Pantheon of chalc Heroes which was
really a big deal because among the nine
worthies were also Julius Caesar
Alexander Hector King David King Arthur
Charlamagne so very illustrious company
that Godfrey keeps there and most of the
nine worthies are still household names
unlike Godfrey who along with tasso has
been kind of forgot Forten in fact you
could ask the question has taso been
forgotten because Godfrey has been
forgotten because the historical events
taso wrote about have come disrepute
well yes partly but it's also the case
that the greatness and the fame of
taso's poem was a huge boost to
Godfrey's postumus status as well and
the taso status would have declined
really no matter what the subject was
and we can say this because the same
thing has basically happened to all the
other Renaissance epics ludovico arosto
and edman Spencer have also pretty much
been tossed aside and so has camoo he uh
camoo was a Portuguese poet who wrote an
epic about Vasco deama the great
Explorer and if you had to add a fourth
great epic poet to the 16th century
Triumph it of taso and arosto and
Spencer it would be K and there were a
lot more people writing in this genre
than just these four epic was the most
prestigious genre everybody did it
hundreds of works most of them not good
were produced uh as will always be the
case of course when a lot of people are
doing doing the same thing so they've
all been forgotten except in their own
respective countries and languages in
the English-speaking World Spencer is
still highly regarded even if I hardly
ever meet anybody who's actually read
the fairy queen they still give Spencer
lip service at least and likewise in
Italian and Portuguese these other poets
have some status there's quite a bit of
multimedia content about taso in the
Italian language whether it's on like
YouTube or you know audio books but
there's really no English language cont
that I've been able to find so that's
why I really wanted to talk about him
because he was so important for such a
long time and nobody really ever talks
about him today although in fact to this
day Sicilian puppet theaters are still
performing plays that draw on taso's
poem but the poem just doesn't have the
same International status that it once
did now partly this is because of the
strangeness of Renaissance epics they
blend classical literature and myth with
old French romances and Arthurian
Legends that were popular at the time
they're Hybrid Works that you don't only
see in other places in times although in
many ways you could probably see
Renaissance epics as the precursors to
the modern fantasy novel there's a lot
of fantasy folklore the medieval
chivalry is mixed in with Supernatural
events but the old epics themselves are
no longer popular and that is a great
shame because they are really really
great and very enjoyable reads yaso was
basically like the JK rally and or
Stephen King of his time he was
universally read by educated people
universally known in fact the great
French writer the counterrevolutionary
Romantic Period chatau Brion uh he has
this great book he wrote called the
Genius of Christianity it is a 700 page
Masterpiece that is out of print go
figure but during his lifetime this was
actually the thing chatau Bon was really
known for and then when he died his
Memoirs from Beyond the tomb became the
thing he was known for after his death
but anyway shat Brion has a chapter in
this book The Genius of Christianity
about epics and about how all the Epic
poems to have come along since classical
times have been Christian ones chatau
Bon thought this was was actually not
accidental it was a necessary criteria
because epic just isn't possible without
some dominant transcendental ethical
system to underg what it's about that
really provides the sense of universal
values that epic needs if it's going to
flourish in a culture I think cateau Bon
is right about this in this sense the
decline of Epic could be taken to be a
symptom of a civilization's sickness and
Corruption since when epics go out of
style it's an indication that a society
no longer has any universal value
and that it will soon tear itself apart
probably as is happening in our own age
but the point of this digression is that
ChatOn thought that there were only
three poems written since Antiquity that
deserve to be accorded the title of Epic
and those are the Divine Comedy Paradise
Lost of course and the liberation of
Jerusalem so there you have it The Great
chatau Bond pronouncing his authority
from Beyond the tomb now the Oxford
World Classics Edition of Liberation has
an appendix and the notes were done by
Mark Davy an Italian Renaissance scholar
and Davey compiled a list of all the
writers poets artists and composers who
adapted some part of the liberation of
Jerusalem in their own work um and it's
just four pages of names and dates of
people who set tasso to music or painted
a scene or wrote something now some of
these names are recognizable Spencer
Milton Byron volte Russo Longfellow
monity handle saleri Mozart's rival
interesting G now largely most of these
names and works have been forgotten
though I'm sure they were notable in
their day and Mark Davy actually tells
us that of all post-medieval authors
only Shakespeare's collected works cast
a longer Shadow on music and painting So
if you were to rank the most influential
Western authors of all time in terms of
just this metric of influencing future
artists composers authors Etc which is
probably really the best and most
objective measure of that vagant
evanescent quality greatness uh here's
how it would go this is just verifiable
just in terms of citations so we're
going by just subjective metrics here
not saying who is the best in any kind
of subjective sense or who you like so
number one Homer no surprise there
number two Virgil three Avid four Dante
five Shakespeare and sixth taso although
maybe those fourth fifth and sixth
places could be switched around a little
bit Shakespeare you know maybe he'll
rank a little higher if you just take
all of his Collective Works into
consideration maybe even Beyond Dante I
don't know you could kind of debate that
a little bit but if we're just taking a
single work into consideration those
fifth and sixth places could probably be
reversed now you'll notice a few things
here you will notice how the most
influential writers in history are
without exception all poets not Pros
writers if you were to add a seventh and
eighth figure to this list it would
almost certainly be Milton and probably
arosto massively influential for
hundreds of years like taso um probably
the only Pros work that would be on this
top 10 list is Don kyote uh this is not
an accident the novel is a very recent
development epic was the genre for
basically 3,000 years so if you only
take one lesson away from this it should
be that Pros is for dumb Dums and the
number two thing you'll notice is that
these figures are all narrative poets
not lyric poets although Virgil and
Shakespeare also wrote lyric poetry they
wouldn't be as important if they'd only
done that the great narrative Poets of
their time and place all occupy in fact
a slightly higher position than their
contemporary lyric poets in the pantheon
of Latin poetry for example Horus is
number three behind Aid and Virgil
likewise petrarch takes a backseat to
Dante now when I have this conversation
with the lyric poets they tend to be
very resentful of this and and I'm not
saying that it's fair I'm not saying
that n narrative poetry is better than
lyric poetry or anything um Horus and
Petr are still way higher status than
most narrative poets who have lived but
if there's something this metric does
demonstrate it's that if you want
average people to care about poetry it
must tell a story and poetry today tends
not to do that so is it any surprised
that people don't really care about
poetry anymore now back to the subject
Not only was tasso's poem influential
his life was as well there were a lot of
Art arti s who dramatized taso's
biography it was very colorful I haven't
said anything really about who taso the
man was so here's a brief biography
taso's father Bernardo taso was a
courtier and a successful poet himself
who also wrote an epic romance that was
quite successful in his day Bernardo was
you know one of these many hundreds of
people writing narrative poems that have
been forgotten although I guess in the
case of bernardo's poem which is called
ladik or ladii like probably said that
wrong it was supposed to be pretty good
so because his father was a poet taso
got a head start when he was 16 in 1559
he drafted his first stanas of what
would become the liberation of Jerusalem
uh the choice of his subject may have
been inspired by personal experiences a
year earlier Turkish Pirates had raided
his family's town of sento and
reportedly abducted his sister and
brother-in-law so whatever the reason
for starting this epic he started it and
for more than two decades he labored on
it but but he started to get distracted
with other problems uh it seems that
when he was around 30 years old he began
showing symptoms of serious mental
illness the jealousies and rivalries of
Court life developed into a paranoia he
thought he was being poisoned uh
compounding this was the fact that
certain officials within the Catholic
Church didn't like passages of his poems
they were considered not doctrinally
Orthodox enough and taso began to fear
that he would be denounced as a heretic
to the Inquisition taso had a difficult
relationship with his Patron Alfonso II
of the Desta family his paranoia really
got on alonso's nerves but he graciously
put up with taso because he recognized
his talent and because he wanted to be
associated with The Prestige of this
great epic poem he was writing So
eventually taso ended up attacking a
servant with a knife he was placed in a
mad house this was in 1579 and in the
mad house he was able to work on his
literary compositions he wasn't confined
very strictly a lot of the time if he
wasn't having active symptoms
so when The Liberation came out in 1581
it took Europe by storm it effects were
very far reaching as I have elaborated
already and I'm guessing that Fame
probably didn't help his mental
condition uh you know just thinking of
celebrities today who are kind of
unhinged by the constant attention they
get and when you're already mentally
unbalanced to begin with Fame usually
doesn't make that condition better on
top of that tasso never earned any money
for his poem during his enti entire life
not a single penny he had no control
over the manuscript there were no
copyright laws or anything plus he was
locked up which didn't help and he
remained confined for seven years now
the cell where he was kept in St Anna
Hospital in Ferrara became a pilgrimage
site for literary tourists after his
death Guta and Byron both visited it and
authored Works about taso inspired by
their experience while that original
cell no longer exists another one has
been erected on the site of it obviously
it's not used as a Cell It's a memorial
but you can visit it today if you ever
find yourself in Ferrara so tasa was
leted out eventually he moved to manua
then wandered around Italy for another
decade then in
1594 Pope Clement VII invited taso to
Rome there he would Ascend the
capitoline hill and be crowned by the
pope now petrarch had been crowned with
a laurel wreath on that very same Hill
about 250 years earlier which by the way
was the occasion where pet P officially
announced the Renaissance had begun so
you might think well taso pretty nice
being crowned on the capitol line hill
but petar beat you to it but no you
would be wrong to think that tato taso
was not scheduled to be crowned any mere
poet laurate tato taso was to be crowned
with the title king of poets but as it
happened only a few days before he was
to be crowned taso traveled to a Convent
during a storm and died there and since
his death no one else has been accorded
that title you can probably see why
tasso's life has been so frequently
dramatized it's not just about who he
was it's about what he represented uh
tasso became the archetype of the Mad
poet the man driven to Insanity by his
own genius who sacrificed everything for
his art and was oppressed and
misunderstood by his Society uh and in
this respect taso is to poets what van
go is to painters you know people they
tell stories about van go now but before
that they were telling stories about
taso taso was Van go before van go now I
really haven't delved it all into the
plot of The Liberation of Jerusalem or
any of the different characters Beyond
Godfrey himself but the story is really
great it's beautifully written there's a
lot of great couplets that are couched
in aphoristic form uh from hateful Day
More hateful night is born till yet more
hateful Daybreak greets the more and
there are also a lot of exciting battle
sequences that are very moving within
the postclassical literary tradition it
is the best Marshall epic that has been
written really since the anad and one of
my favorite scenes in this respect is in
Kanto 9 when the foe of the Christians
the sultan solimon raids the Crusader
camp at night and catches everyone off
guard and he's wreaking havoc and then
this happens now from the boldest
hearted Left Alive stepped forth latinus
born by tiber's side whom neither
hardship could have will deprive nor
years subdue or tame in strength and
pride his five Sons nearly of an age all
five wherever he fought were always by
his side bearing more arms than years of
tender youth their limbs still growing
chins and cheeks still smooth so
latinas' five Sons surround Solomon and
attack him and one by one they fall as
their father looks on until he is the
last one and he realizes that his Noble
Line is now extinct and here's what he
does their father ah no father now alas
cruel fate to take at once so many sons
in their five deaths now sees as in a
glass his own and all his Noble lines at
once was his old age so strong that in
that mass of miseries unbowed by such a
fronts he could still breathe still
fight but perhaps he his slain Sons
deeds and faces did not see and kindly
Darkness with her shadowing Hood kept
some of that dread vision from his eyes
even so unless he too were lost all
would seem lost to him a Triumph to
despise prodigal of his own for his fo's
blood he with the greed of greediest
Miser Vis and it is moot that more would
mulfy his grief and rage to kill him or
to die but thus he taunts his foe seems
this my hand so much to be despised so
feeble that with all its strength that
cannot make you stand to turn on me the
fierceness of your hate and Strikes him
with a stroke so bitter and so deadly
that it tears through maale and plate
and finds his side and makes a huge
wound there while warm blood spurts and
spreads along the tear and at that taunt
that blow the Savage Lord turns blade
and rage against him straight and muls
his curus having smashed his shield that
board wowed tight in seven toughen
oxhide calls and in his bowels plunges
his great sword with a choking SOB
wretched latinus Falls and Spills forth
in an intermittent Flood now from the
wound now from his mouth his blood as on
the appenine a sturdy tree that scorns
hot Urus and harsh aquilo if a huge wind
gust cracks it finally makes nearby
trees partake its overthrow so he falls
and with such great Fury he makes all
who dare come close to him lie low for a
man so Fierce a worthy end it is that
though he dies he reeks a ruin like
this so a very moving scene I think this
poem gets a lot of flak for being kind
of this you know simple good and evil
thing but it is not nearly as simplistic
as it is sometimes described as uh some
of the heroes are problematic and the
Muslim antagonists while they are
villains are given touches of humanity
by taso in fact one of the most famous
and moving p passages of the poem is
near the end when the sultan Solomon the
one who killed latinus and his five Sons
he's looking out on the final battle and
he realizes that his army is going to
lose and so this is how it's
described now while faithful and Infidel
forces draw together making wounds and
Slaughter rif Fierce Solomon climbs his
Tower and in awe beholds though from
afar their desperate Strife as on a
stage or turnning ground he saw the
bitter tragedy of human life horrors of
death attack Retreat advance and the
great game of Destiny and
chance so Solomon puts on his armor and
he charges Into The Fray and he is
killed at least in the poem in real life
that guy lived for another like 8 years
but you whatever 6040 ratio so to
conclude what are we to make of taso and
his poem has it been justly tossed onto
the scrap heap of literary history of
course you know what I think uh but if
you have an opinion about this please do
leave a comment I'd like to hear what
you have to say but here's my take you
know for more than a thousand years the
threat of invasion from radical militant
Islam was ever present in the mind of
every European which is why taso's poem
was so relevant for so long and I would
argue is still relevant today even
though we don't really want to admit
that because if we look around we are
still being invaded just not in a
conventional military capacity yet and
if you think that radical Islam is no
longer a threat and it's just going to
go away I would point out that the
prophet Muhammad was a conqueror after
all and uh peaceful Sufi Mystics
notwithstanding there will always be
believers who interpret the Quran as a
call to Jihad and of course what do the
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan represent
if not a modern American Crusade now
whatever your stance on that is so I
think it is high time that we revive
rived taso from his relative obscurity
and that we take his lessons to heart
and even if Godfrey of Bulan was not
exactly the Y Pious idealistic figure
that taso portrayed the poet does
present us with models of chivalry and
piety to Aspire to and above all I think
it is time that we revived the title
king of poets which has languished in
abeyance it's been a vacant position
ever since taso was unable to assume it
no one has ever been crowned king of
poets or queen of poets for that matter
and it's high time we found someone
worthy to represent classical literature
once again a diamond in the rough so to
speak to thrust onto the world stage of
course this is really an essential part
of achieving world poetical domination
because we will need a poet to lead us
obviously this will not be some measly
one-year appointment as with the current
Poet Laureate ship it'll be a lifetime
position of course a king needs a crown
so we're going to need to find a good
silver smith to make us one so while
you're waiting for my next episode to
drop you can accomplish that for me be
sure to check out the liberation of
Jerusalem one of the top critical
comments of Wicker's translation on
Amazon is that it's not as good a
translation as some pros translation
that uh This reviewer cited because it's
less literally accurate which you know
he's right about that it's less
literally accurate but that's total
nonsense do not ever let me catch you
reading a Pros translation of a work of
classical poetry I will not permit it
among my subscribers you are an elite
group whom I hold to a certain standard
reading Pros translations of poetry is
far too Bas of a practice you're better
than that so don't do it because you'll
be cast out into the cold cruel world so
that's my advice be on the lookout for
the next king or queen of poets who
knows where this unsung hero will be
they could be working at Walmart right
now stocking shelves so while grocery
shopping you you may have to peer beyond
the uniform to see the true poet within
so until next time be formal Stay classy
I'll see you
then oh
