Heat-Sixers Postgame Show | Five on the Floor LIVE

Welcome to Five on the Floor, a daily insider show on the Miami Heat and the NBA, featured Ethan Skolnick, Greg Sylvander, and Alex Toledo, plus others from the Five Reasons Sports Network. Welcome back to Five on the Floor. I'm Alex Toledo. No Ethan Skolnick tonight. No Greg slash Lafe Sylvander. We've got what Ethan labeled the kids for whatever reason. I'm damn near 30, unfortunately. I've got Brady Hawk here with me. I've got my guy Major Passins here with me. And we're going to go over a 98-91 heat loss in Philadelphia. I mean, wasn't one of the best games to watch, really. It was a tough start. That was kind of like the first red flag was the way I started this game. It just was kind of in the mud to begin with. And, you know, it's tough because you're missing a lot of guys. And we'll get to that later on in the interview report. Missing a whole lot of guys. And, you know, it changed a lot of things up for the Heat, especially the rotations. But overall, very sloppy game. You finished with 15 turnovers, which is really weird for the Heat. Like, they're consistently throughout the Jimmy era, they've been pretty good at not only forcing turnovers, but holding on to the ball a lot better than other teams for the most part. They're usually in the top 10 and, or I should say bottom 10 in turnover percentage. And, you know, that's, they kind of went away from their identity tonight in that, you know, aspect. And I feel that's something you can't be doing when you're missing so many guys. When you're missing Jimmy Tyler, Jovic, Love, not to mention, Jay Rich, who's been out all that. It's just, you look at like the three-point shooting, it was pretty good throughout the game. They ended up finishing 36% from three, but the finishing at the rim, man, they ended up finishing the game 14 of 33 within four feet of the basket, which is 42%. I don't know how you get to like how you finish 42% at the rim. It just seems hard to do almost, right? Like they're so bad at converting on the easier shots. And I know there was some missed foul calls and people were upset about that. And then not only that, like they've been consistently missing four or five free throws in the past few games, more easy shots that you're kind of passing up. You know, the transition numbers are never really great with them. They ended up finishing with a decent like transition offensive rating, but it was like, you know, up and down at best. So it just feels like everything was in the mud outside of the three-point shooting, which is like, again, okay. It's not like they were on fire or anything. Duncan didn't have like an amazing game before he got hurt, right? And then you ended up finishing with Patty Mills closing the game and Thomas Bryant playing like half of the fourth quarter. So very weird game tonight. We're going to get some more stuff and I want to set up Brady and Major here. Major first, I'm going to set you up first with the Rock Esports Gamer of the Night. And now on five on the floor, it's time for the Gamer of the Night, sponsored by Rock Esports Center, the place to eat, drink, and play all day. Host your next birthday party with them. Located at 15305 South Dixie Highway in Palmetto Bay. They've got a 5,500 square foot state-of-the-art center equipped with all the high-end power. Play all day passes available for just 25 bucks. But if you mention five reasons, it's just $20. So mention five reasons or five RSN, you get to play all day for $20. And now the Gamer of the Night. Major, I'm sorry that I have to come to you with this and I know it's been tough for you in the times you've been on the show. But yeah, who's your Gamer of the Night? I mean, the best player on the court was Maxie. He started out on fire, was like 17 points in first quarter. And they didn't do anything to make him uncomfortable. Like you can't let a microwave scorer like Maxie just get open shot after open shot to start the game and get exactly where he wants to go. Because that's then where you get that, you know, downhill snowball where then he's hitting the tough ones, and there's just really nothing you can do. But I didn't think there was a single point throughout the night where Maxie was uncomfortable for a long stretch of time. He was just consistently getting exactly what he wanted, no matter who was on him. Especially that first quarter. You just can't have an avalanche from one player like that. It's the one guy on the team that you have to stop. And you're just letting him get 17 in the first quarter and letting him start out on fire like that's just unacceptable. The rotations were poor. But Maxie, I mean, he did great. He did everything he was supposed to do. He had a lot of rebounds, a lot of assists, obviously scored at a really high clip. So I thought Maxie was the best player on the court. Yeah, it's hard to disagree. Maxie went off in a lot of different ways, too. It wasn't just like, oh, he got hot from three. He went 3 of 10 from three, amazingly enough, because it feels like he hit more than he missed. But when you look at the way he finished inside the arc, 7 of 14, you know, got to the free throw line five times. And then you mentioned the assists there. And the rebounds, obviously a plus for them, too, which the Sixers are not a good rebounding team, especially without a beat. And, you know, the assists, the 10 assists and three turnovers, it's one of the bigger indicators that you just didn't do a good job on him, like not only the way that he converted, but, you know, you turning him into a playmaker in that sense, because he's like, that's the scouting report on him, right? Because he's not like an amazing passer, you want to send help at him. And there were there was a lot of zone tonight, a lot of zone, like I said, weird lineups. But so it wasn't representative of like, who they are when they're healthy, but still, the execution was not great. Not only that, you got 22 points from Kelly Oubre, along with 11 rebounds and three assists at five blocks. I mean, what a game for Oubre. And then Kyle Lowry, the guy, I mean, as the game went on, he kept getting better and better. He showed off like the stuff that he used to do here, with like the way that he can grip this way into certain foul calls and doing it in a comedically funny way. Just aesthetically, it makes me laugh every time. And it always did when he was here. You hate that it happened against your team, you know, three of five from three, six of 12 from the floor. What was the last time Kyle went six of 12 on the floor, like in a heat uniform? Like it's been a while. He had a great game against you. And it's just it's tough to, you know, all three guys, all three of those guys just killing you like that. It's tough to go over and you know, want to give some love to Bam here, 2013 and six. He would have been player of the night if he would have found a way to to win. But you know what? He didn't even touch the ball in the fourth quarter, it felt like. So that's, to me, a big part of why they lost. But we can get into that later. Brady, what were your general takeaways from this game? And if you want to kind of add to any of the stuff we were talking about there with game or the night? So I mean, number one, the turnovers, like you just cannot hit a game like this as much as they talk about it being in the mud. They turn the ball over way too much. You cannot play in that type of turnover battle and you cannot turn the other team over and be that bad scoring off turnovers in terms of the transition game and kind of capitalizing on that. You just cannot have that happen consistently in games like this when you're already feel like you're under man. And then I'm glad you went to the band thing, because I feel like that needs to be talked about, like, mostly from this game is the fact that he was great in that first quarter, he was, you know, he hit the corner three, he was clicking, he was hitting kind of turnaround jumpers, he was active, I feel like his confidence is kind of hitting, you know, is peaking. And the fact that you kind of make your run in the fourth quarter, Thomas bright comes out, bam comes in, and he does not get a shot attempt in the fourth quarter. That can't happen. It does not matter. If you're trying to play this three point shooting game, because you're trying to get back into the game. That's not what you do. That's not what you do, especially with the lineup that you have out there, where you don't have Doug Robinson out there, which I think it was because he had back discomfort. So he was kind of came out of the game. That's why Patty was closing. Patty struggled, obviously, in this game, and he struggled down the stretch. They didn't have like the spot up shooters that was going to just revolve and say, okay, we're going to run pin downs and handoffs and pull up in pull up threes consistently, even though Terry got a couple of the job on that one stretch, you have to play your game. And your game is spam on a bio, your game is banned playmaking for you, your game is banned in the mid post, trying to get things going in the paint. And the fact that I'm looking at this 91 point box score, and there's no other reason to point at that, then you have to stay with your, your system and your game. And it felt like they got away with that. So you have guys like Caleb, who I think kind of sums up this game well, who did not, he played really well defensively, he was all over the place. He had a bunch of steals, bunch of blocks played gritty. But the turnovers that he had, like he kept like he was just punching, he was shooting himself in the foot every time he made a good play. So that kind of summed up, it felt like what the heat we're doing. So yeah, that was that was kind of the big one. And then I mean, I feel like really struggled in this one. And I think that's what we're probably going to get into the conversation about the foul calls in the whistle and everything. Because look, I spoke about it, not even meaning to ask him about this specifically. But I asked him about Jimmy's free throw attempts, because they were down. And he basically was like, I didn't get the memo, I didn't get the memo from the league that they're not calling as many fouls. And he went on this kind of rant. And then obviously, this all got put out there about the foul calls that we're seeing this come in fruition. They really are being a lot more lenient. And that hurts a lot of their players. Like, I mean, he's one of them. I mean, he's a physical player. I mean, he's not a player, even though Jimmy, you know, gets the line. It's on. Jimmy finds ways to maneuver and find ways to score like he'll make it so it's so easier for himself. He will search for a mismatch, you'll find a smaller guy, you'll post that guy up. I mean, it's not do that. I say it all the time. I mean, it's not search for smaller defenders. I mean, just goes and who's ever in front of it. And it caught up to him in a game like this, because he's going at guys like Mo Bamba and Kelly Oubre. And there's no going straight up on him. And they're getting blocks and they're not getting the usual foul calls. And yet so you know, that was pretty clear to me. And then look, you're without Tyler, without Jimmy, you're without Kevin Love. You can't really survive. I think as we've seen a down Duncan game, we talked about it after the Detroit games, how good Duncan was and why he barely kind of pushed them over the top to win those games. But you play a team like this. You need your shooting. You need Duncan. He struggled to start that. Obviously, the injury didn't help, but that pretty much summed it up for me. It was just the the defense did pretty much enough, but they just kept hurting themselves with the turnovers and everything else in the way they played. Agreed. I thought the defense had a lot of good moments outside of the maxi stuff, really, even again with Oubre and Lowery playing well. I thought like there was a lot of good moments throughout the game. It was just too up and down because like the offense just never really got in a great rhythm. Like I think the only time it looked decent was, you know, was honestly, I don't even feel like there was a there was any point in the game where it was looking great. But like you had the second quarter where you outscored them by six, but you started off getting outscored by eight in the first and you get outscored by 12 in the third quarter. Right. Just tough to come back from when you're missing this many guys. But yeah, like there was they looked good in the zone at times, but they used it a whole whole lot. And Thomas and Patty were in a lot of those lineups. Thomas, Patty and Terry played a good amount together. And they have as of late. And they did it to start the fourth quarter for the first few minutes. Like, again, these are weird circumstances. Right. And look, shout out to Thomas and Patty for trying to hold their own. Like, they've been there. They're kind of a victim of being put in those tough situations as well. Like, they're not in the perfect lineups to be optimized either. Not that, you know, they like Patty had a tough game. And Thomas has been scoring in the interior lately. So, you know, he's not and he hit a three today. So he's not really a stretch big. But you got to be happy that he is at least scoring for you down low if he's going to be taking up space, like getting buckets. They're kind of just having him as a threat down there. It's better than nothing. You got to give some props to Heywood for hitting some threes tonight and playing some great defense. Like you said, Caleb played great defense, but too many turnovers from him, too many turnovers from Bam and Terry. And I just think that was kind of, you know, a little bit hard to overcome when a lot of these guys that you're playing a ton of minutes tonight are making so many mistakes because Bam otherwise like had a great game. You know, and that's just kind of where I stand with it. Sorry for talking so much, Major. I'm going to get to you next. What do you feel as far as the way that this game played out down the stretch? Anything you wanted to add as far as your overall thoughts? And again, sorry to come with like a depressing question, because I know down the stretch isn't exactly the most exciting topic. But what are your thoughts? Yeah, I thought other than that first quarter where I said the I thought the rotations were pure or poor. Sorry. I thought the defense was pretty good. They're really active, especially Caleb and Delon. I thought both of them were really active and made things difficult on everyone not named Maxi. But for the purpose of like at the end of the fourth and in the fourth, their defense really turned it up. And I thought their defense was pretty solid. It was just like the offense was holding the back. And like, I feel like we say that every time, but they were searching for foul calls and they're not getting them. The refs have clearly changed across the whole NBA on how they're calling fouls. Any game you watch now, there's just a lot of contact not being called. But also, I think you're not also going to get those foul calls whenever you're having bad offensive processes. So they're having bad offensive processes. No one's moving. One person has the ball and it's like, try to create a shot. And to Brady's point, you're playing the best when Bam had the ball. And like, I've talked about this numerous times, even in last playoffs, where they made the comeback against the Bucs and things like that, where they made big runs, it was Bam had the ball and he was being a facilitator as well as a score and just being decisive in his actions. And today we saw in the first quarter, he was doing that exact same thing. Bam was everywhere. Bam was incredible for the first half. He had those two horrible turnovers at the start of the third quarter. But other than that, was doing great the whole game and then just didn't touch the ball at the end. I don't get going away from your identity like that in what is clearly your best option to win the game, as we saw even in that game of him absolutely dominating. And for a half of the game was outplaying Maxie, in my opinion. And then just the heat, we're just like, Oh, no, we're not going to give you the ball. It just made absolutely no sense. I feel like that should be corrected at least in a timeout. You know, it's like a four point game with five minutes left or something like that. And you still not giving the ball to Bam. It just doesn't make any sense to me. He's Ethan's here in presence, right? But yeah, I'm sorry. It was perplexing, man. I don't know why he didn't touch the ball in that fourth quarter when he was easily their best player throughout the game. Like it wasn't it's not like other guys were going off like Terry had his moments right, but had an inefficient game overall with the turnovers and with the shooting and more turnovers and assists, which has not been the case for Terry throughout his tenure. He's been really good about that, even with the shooting kind of being up and down throughout this time. And, you know, it's just a lot of things, you know, didn't go well for them tonight. Like their mid range shooting was not good. Like I mentioned before, 42 percent at the rim, which is first percentile, which means worse than the league. Right. And it's just hard to overcome those things. Like I mentioned before, the miss free throws and the turnovers, like it's too it's too much to overcome on the road while you're missing a ton of guys not to keep, you know, hammering home the same points. But like, that's a lot of stuff. That's a lot of stuff that you could have controlled. And again, like they're just usually so good at holding on to the ball. The Sixers are not like the Orlando Magic, who just force you into a bunch of turnovers. Right. It's not what they do. So it's on them. You know, you can't win them all. But this would have been a really nice one to win. And with that, we're going to move on to the aggressive insurance play of the night. 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Bam, continuing the streak and hitting not one, but two threes in this game, hit one early on in the first quarter and then one later on in the game, you know, very much in rhythm in the flow of the offense. It's clearly not like the first option. I don't think BAM is some high volume stretch big now. But again, if you can take those in the flow of the offense and kind of other things are not working and it's wide open for you, I think they're fine with that. Like, I don't think so. I don't think so is one to encourage you like bigs to shoot the ball. Like you've seen that a lot with their backups. You've seen it with BAM, you know, outside of most of the other guys, I don't think they've been encouraged to shoot. And it's like, other than these wide open in rhythm ones, right, I think that's just kind of what it's been. And so BAM having the confidence to take them to me, it's it doesn't completely change everything because I don't think defenses are going to be like worried about that. But it does like make you second guess, even if just it's a little bit right. It's like, OK, you can make that above the break one. And I think he ended up making a corner one, which is as a second one. So we don't have to make this a whole thing, but it is fun to talk about because it's like one of the only things that was positive about tonight. Very weird night as far as like a three point shooting, because like I said, that was the only area before that they shot. OK, but even then it was BAM hitting to Heywood. I think what was it? Hit three. I don't I don't have that number in front of me. And Thomas hit one as well. So like the three point shooting was comprised of, you know, your typical non shooters making a lot of them. And like Brady mentioned before, Duncan not getting going before he was out of the game didn't help. Patty didn't really get going there, even though he closed the game. And, you know, I really like his effort. It's that's also another tough thing to overcome is the size there. But enough for me. Brady, what did you think about, you know, BAM and kind of this development? I mean, aside from the fourth quarter topic that we just had, I mean, it seems like after what we were talking about a week and a half ago with his confidence in the issues and the Dallas game and kind of the issues he was having, it just feels like his confidence is peaking, where you could kind of see that with the three point shooting. You can see that I think the corner was one that surprised me a little more because he's he's kind of been confident with the above the break one, which I've been saying over time, I feel like moves the needle way more than the corner shot. The corner shot doesn't really do much for me specifically. It's not it's not really operates. It's not really where, you know, teams are easier for you to pull away from there than than the top of the key. It feels like you do more there. But then he followed it up a little bit later with another above the break one. So at five for five over the last four games, to your point about like the second guessing, the thing is, if he keeps hitting it like teams are not going to adjust to it unless it's very high volume, like unless it's happening over like a consistently high volume, like teams are going to basically say like, like, OK, you want to shoot that shot like you're there like, OK, take it again, take it again. So they're going to like they'll they're not going to overreact to it. Like that's kind of the big thing. So he's going to pretty much have it pretty decently open if he wants it. And I feel like he had like an opportunity actually late in the fourth to take a three and he swung it to the left wing and end up in a mess. But it was like, I don't think the guy's going to be taking clutch time, even though he did in the last game, but like clutch time, like rhythm above the break threes on spot ups like I don't think that's the point we're at. But it is good to see like the whole point was like this is never going to just like, OK, Bam's a shooter now. Like this is always going to be a thing that slowly happens over time. It's going to slowly just increase over and over. And we're at the beginning stages. We're finally hitting that stage where he's confident enough. He builds up his mid range game as much as possible. He's kind of maximized that in a way that he feels like he's hitting hit kind of all his gadgets in that range. And now he's kind of expanding his range a little bit. He's kind of being able to just, you know, just shoot him a little bit more and see just how the defense reacts. So and I said it before, like the reason it's not just like, OK, we want Bam to shoot threes because, oh, he shot a three. Like the reason I feel like is more so the fact of what he can do, the things that like Spoh can run for him. And the biggest thing is the Duncan Bam stuff, like the fact that Duncan's developed his game to the point where, you know, he's not just a paint touches and get to the rim and finish down there and do all that stuff. The final level to this entire Duncan Bam two man game is the Bam three. It's the fact that you can run like picking pops and you can kind of leverage the two of their abilities to your advantage and do that type of stuff. So that's you know, we're you know, we're talking about this in March that we're probably not going to see that this season. Like this is once again, feels like something down the line, but it's there's always a good, you know, a good topic to have a starting point. So like to start for his starting point, Alex, to be five for five from three over four games is is not the worst thing in the world. For sure, man. It's fun to see. And it's you know, it's given us something to talk about here, kind of in this weird point in the season where it's winding down and it's looking like at this point that they might end up in the play in tournament again. Right. Like it's not obviously not settled yet. There's still some time to get out of there. But, you know, this is one of those wins that would have really helped. Right. And, you know, the Knicks are playing tonight and there's, you know, other team, other teams are going to affect that as well. But this is one that you had at hand. And again, you know, the circumstances weren't great with the amount of guys you're missing. But before we get to that majors, I think you wanted to add as far as BAM and the three point development. And if there's anything that's kind of popped up throughout your mind as you've been talking that you wanted to add to this kind of depressing game. Yeah, I mean, with BAM shooting threes, I released a video a little bit ago saying BAM should not shoot threes. And then he suddenly starts. So maybe he just does whatever I say, don't do. But I mean, if he's making them, he should he should take them. Right. If they're going to be all the way behind the free throw line, like at that point, it's almost a disservice to not take the threes because then they can just pack the paint. And yes, he's increased his mid range. And I think he's way better than the statistics show on his mid range shooting because he relies on it too much. But a worst case scenario, you got to take one step in and shoot that shot at the top of the free throw line. You can't just hold it looking around waiting. I mean, we've seen that with countless other players. That's when the offense gets in big trouble once they figure out you're never going to take it. He's starting to take it. I think he has a really good form. It's real smooth and it's replicable. So I mean, I don't have any concerns about him not being able to ever make threes at a pretty decent clip at a respectable clip. So if they're open, I'm fine with him taking them if he's going to take them confidently and like fluid, not like hesitation. Like, I guess I'll just take it. But if he walks into it, just take it. Don't second guess yourself or anything like that. Just pull up. Take it. Shoot. If you make it awesome. If you don't, just move on to the next one. He can't start thinking about it. That's when he gets in trouble. When you can see Bam start thinking about what he's going to do on the court, that's when he gets into trouble and he gets way too predictable. When he's free flowing in the offense, including the threes have been the past four games, they've been free flowing. That's when he's at his best and that's when he's no ceiling Bam. I couldn't agree more. It's just it's always been a central theme to his game. And we've obviously talked about it here for years when it comes to just kind of playing in the flow of the offense, not hesitating with whatever it is that you're doing out there. Now the threes, it's the same thing, right? If I see him hesitate before taking a three, that's not going to make me feel good about it. I just think he plays so much better when he's not thinking twice and just playing in the flow of the game. So yeah, that's I think where we're going to wrap it up. Before we do, let's get to the Eric Rubenstein injury report. 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It was on his Instagram. If I remember correctly, I sound I mean, I've never sounded older in my life. But, you know, he he kind of hinted like if he's going to come back soon with the Instagram is kind of what I took from it. I don't know if you guys took something different. It's not what I wanted to get the show into. But do you have any thoughts there? You can comment. Love is still out. Jovich continues to be out with the hamstring situation. And of course, Jay Rich with the Yeah, I think that the Jovich thing somebody had said it's it's not that serious where he kind of felt like like he could have played previously, I think even in the last game. So I mean, that's a pretty good sign. I feel like the love thing. I feel like I keep saying it, but I feel like they just want that guy healthy in the playoffs. Like, yeah, they need him right now. We all understand that. Like, they could very well use him to win games. But like, imagine not having a guy in the it's almost like, take as much time because you don't want him to do like, like, look what OGN and OB did, where he came back and now he's out again, because they feel like it's gonna flare back up. Like you do not want a situation like that with love. You want him to just take his time be fully healthy and come back around playoff time. For sure. I mean, that's just we've been talking about that throughout the season. And it's just like, you know, shout out Thomas Bryant for stepping in there doing his best. Kevin Love is needed, for sure. So I'm glad that he's getting some rest. And you just, you know, hope that most of these guys who are pretty much rotation players for you, and some important ones to like, you hope that everybody's good to go for the playoffs. And a lot of it seems up in the air, like with Tyler. I mean, you know, for a fact, Jay Rich isn't coming back. And I forgot to mention Duncan. I know I said it earlier. But for the injury report, I forgot to mention Duncan going out. I want to say third quarter with what called back discomfort. And they said he wasn't going to return. He did it. So don't know. I haven't seen any updates yet on like, spoke quotes, you know, after the game. Hopefully, that's not anything too serious, because Duncan has been hugely important, hugely, hugely reliable for them. So, you know, just got to hope everybody comes back soon. And with that, we're going to wrap it up. Major, thank you so much for joining. Brady, thank you for joining. And thank you to again, the 1200 people watching live. I thought that was just a result of the game winner last game, which is a whole lot of fun. But you guys tuned in after a loss on a Monday night, you know, kind of depleted to a Sixers team, you know, to arrival. Thank you guys for tuning in. 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