IRON MAN Robert Downey Jr Announcement

I've said this before. It's just like it's crazily in my DNA. Yeah. I love it. Suit. Would you think of putting the suit back on again for Tony Stark? I've become surprisingly open-minded to the idea, probably the most like me character strangely I've ever played, even though he's way cooler than I am. Welcome back, everyone. It's Charlie. Robert Downey Jr. was just talking about returning as Iron Man in the Marvel movies, and it's no coincidence this is happening right now after he spent all the last couple of years saying he did not want to come back. He didn't care. He wanted to do other types of non-Marvel movies, movies that were not based on traditional comic books. So what changed his mind so suddenly? Why is he talking about coming back now of all times? Well, there's a couple important reasons, and most of you have probably figured this out because it's not too dissimilar with what happened with Hugh Jackman saying that he had been retired as Wolverine after the Logan movie, but then turning right around and coming back for Deadpool and Wolverine. So we'll break it all down. If you're brand new to the channel, we're doing that Deadpool and Wolverine ticket giveaway All you have to do to enter is be a subscriber and let me know what kind of character you want Robert Downey Jr. to play when he actually does come back. If he's not going to be playing his original version of Iron Man, but rewind to Avengers Endgame several years ago. That's how long it's been. It's been several years. Just this past year, new information was revealed about what was actually going down behind the scenes at Marvel when they were making Endgame apparently Robert Downey Jr. went into that movie not wanting Marvel to kill off his character originally one of their first ideas was to have Captain America be the one to snap the infinity gauntlet and sacrifice himself. According to the Russos and the writers and Kevin Feige their reasoning for changing it to Iron Man according to their own statement is that they thought the twist for Captain America was too obvious too easy because he was always the character that was ready to throw himself on the bomb to protect everyone else too many people would go into the movie expecting him to do this and it be a bigger twist in the theater like a bigger surprise so crap moment to see Iron Man most selfish person on the Avengers be the one to throw himself on that bomb and snap his nano infinity gauntlet. Eventually the Russos and Kevin Feige talked Robert Downey Jr. into the idea. So originally you have to imagine that Iron Man was going to survive Endgame and they would've just gone on and made Iron Man 4 with him like they would any other sequel like they made Thor 4 love and thunder because Thor survived they would've done the same thing for Iron Man, but eventually the Russos and Kevin Feige talked Robert Downey Jr. into the idea of being the one to snap the infinity gauntlet they kill him and after the movie came out he casually started talking about the end of his run at Marvel. The fact that the checks eventually stopped coming in like well the checks are done like I guess I'm done too. He made a reported $75 million for infinity war and another $75 million for Endgame his famous back-end deal entitled him to a significant portion of the profits to any of the movies that they put him in in both movies together just those two movies earn many billions of dollars. So it is totally normal to hear any actor of any kind be reluctant to give up that kind of status he had inside Marvel because they treated him like a king like it wasn't just about the money he was treated like a king on sets credit to Kevin Feige he was always relatively happy with their financial arrangement like he didn't have any problem signing those checks for Robert Downey Jr. He loves him in real life to like they're actually good friends. But here's the thing heading into Marvel phase 3 like go back to the events of Captain America Civil War the Disney executives responsible for actually signing all those checks like clearing all this did not love Robert Downey Jr. Earning super high paydays. So after Avengers age of Ultron it became harder and harder for Kevin Feige to convince Disney to sign off on him using Iron Man in bigger movies like it was actually relatively hard for him to convince Disney to let him use Iron Man in Captain America Civil War. But eventually they still let him do it. That is until we get to infinity war in endgame. So Kevin Feige in Disney in reality were going to use those movies as a bookend for the original six Avengers they've been very public about this like it was meant to be an ending of sorts for that original team of Avengers. That's why they had that ending of the movie with a particular post credit scene. They were also planning to use the movie to transition to a new team of Avengers with newer characters and also characters that they had to pay less money to because each of those other original Avengers earned at least $20 million per movie infinity war in endgame Robert Downey Jr. was a special case. That's why he earns so much more money than all the rest of them. If you don't remember one of the original ideas that they had Kevin Feige in the Russos for endgame was to kill off all of the original six Avengers you can kind of see the wheels turning in their heads behind the scenes like you know what we're paying them too much. Let's bring in some fresh blood because if everybody had survived those original Avengers and they did Avengers 5 a few years later, they all came back and did it just like another Avengers movie their salaries all would've gone way up to a certain point like the longer you keep them around the higher their salaries get the more unprofitable the Avengers movies just the Marvel movies in general wind up being so Disney really really wants to find a way to stop using them in movies all movie studios do this all the time. Best example also is Sony's excuse for getting rid of Tobey Maguire and recasting rebooting with Andrew Garfield in the amazing Spider-Man at the time they blamed Spider-Man 3 underperforming because movie cost so much to make his salary was getting so high by the time they would have made Spider-Man 4, so they just rebooted with a cheaper actor and just completely started fresh and after Avengers endgame Robert Downey Jr.'s first big movie and this is largely his own creative endeavor was do little it was a huge flop like the first big non-Marvel Iron Man movie time to show everybody that he can do movies that are successful that are not Marvel movies and it winds up flopping big time. Even though Robert Downey Jr. is amazing that movie is terrible. He said at the time he felt really down on himself just felt like he'd forgotten how to act this is around 2020. He says he wants to challenge himself the pandemic happens the Marvel phase 4 hits Marvel phase 5 they start to have a lot of their critical failures cracks beginning to show at the seams a lot of the stuff they were trying out the new weirder different things were just not working out, especially their strategy for Disney plus there's a whole video we can get into about the problems they had with the Disney management and their mandate to shovel out a stream of TV shows and movies so much so that they had problems managing quality control. So you wind up with stuff like secret invasion that almost makes no sense at all and critically is probably the worst reviewed thing that they've released since Avengers endgame has come out so behind the scenes Marvel pushes the emergency stop button and everyone starts talking about them bringing back the OG Avengers for Avengers 5 or secret wars just to sort of freshen things up get people to come back turn around on Marvel movies you wind up hearing about Deadpool 3 and then pouring all their energy into it because it seems like it's going to be such a banger like okay, we're just gonna rely on the biggest possible hits that we can right now to turn people around suddenly that Joe Rogan prediction to Robert Downey Jr. right after endgame turns out to be kind of prophetic is the door to Iron Man totally closed because I don't believe it is oh you guys can go through time now you can go there's there was you know you already opened up that door let me ask you the question if I pick the jersey back up and put it on wouldn't you feel a little bit like no crap no oh here's what here's what I think they go through a few semi lackluster Avengers movies without you ready for this I'm read here's a scene there's a moment where the world's fate is at stake and they realize they need a super genius and then they figure out how to restart that time machine the way people would freak out if you came back come up now Marvel isn't going to bring Robert Downey Jr. back the way Joe Rogan thought that they would like it's not gonna be some time travel excuse for bringing back the original Tony Stark who died during Avengers endgame he'll come back a completely different way is a different version the character, but he's not too far off the mark here, but while Marvel is having all their problems around 2022 2023 Robert Downey Jr. publicly disses them by saying that he doesn't care about going back to Marvel movies he's fine doing regular movies remembering how to be a real actor then the Oppenheimer movie comes out we have a whole Barbenheimer event he winds up winning all the major awards for his performance the movie itself is amazing because it is Christopher Nolan of course it's amazing and he starts getting all this positive attention and recognition respect more importantly from Hollywood again in all of his peers. So really it's after that moment that he decides he'd like to return to Marvel for more movies eventually like he's totally fine coming back because he got the thing he thought that he'd lost respect as an actor like he actually reminded himself oh I do know how to do this I'm actual good actor I can do whatever I want to do so in this clip I put the beginning of this when he said he's cool to come back what's really going on here is essentially he's telling Kevin Feige the Disney people who have to sign those checks to get him to come back that he's ready to talk he can actually make a deal with them now Kevin Feige can start planning his role and how his return will go down and the other important part here no coincidence that he's saying this right now particularly like this date because a while ago Marvel started to tell all the major actors and their agents to clear their schedules for the filming of Avengers 5. Now here's the thing Robert Downey Jr. is not going to be in Avengers 5 I just did a whole separate video about how Marvel change the plot of that movie the past year it's going to be a more grounded movie set in the main MCU mostly mostly they'll be some Kang related multiverse stuff they have to tie that storyline, but their original plans for how Avengers 5 was going to be Kang Dynasty all that stuff change behind the scenes what they bring Robert Downey Jr. back for is Avengers secret wars is another version of Tony Stark from a different universe because secret wars is their last big real ending multiverse movie like they're ending the multiverse saga just in general that movie is gonna be bringing back a bunch of different classic X-Men Fox Marvel actors Hugh Jackman's Wolverine coming back for that to it'll be a version of Tony Stark from another universe probably with a wildly different backstory giving him a reason to come back like a fresh take on the Tony Stark character not just rehashing the old version that he used to play. This also gets back to the same reason why Hugh Jackman came back as Wolverine he didn't come back as the version that died during Logan like you want to trample on the ending of that movie his version is a completely different version from another universe. Now the big question is which version of Tony Stark comes back and secret wars is the a version that's not Iron Man that some other kind of hero is he an evil version of Tony Stark. My guess is probably not it be cool twist to see him as a version of superior Iron Man, but I think if they did superior Iron Man it be like a completely different actor there was that deleted scene during Avengers infinity war they film the scene were essentially he took the cloak of levitation it was meant to be an Easter egg for sorcerer supreme Tony Stark from the comics and while that was happening he gave all of his Iron Man nanites to Doctor strange and they called him the Iron mage that's why you saw those behind-the-scenes images of Benedict Cumberbatch walking around on set on the ship with the Iron Man rig they usually used to film all the Iron Man scenes everybody let me know in the comments he comes back which version of Tony Stark do you want him to be when he comes back. Right now Avengers 5 is still scheduled to come out in 2026 will see if that date winds up holding secret wars would be a year or two after that, but there's a bunch of big stuff coming up my acolyte episodes will start posting after this and then we have the boy season 4 house the dragon season 2 episodes there's so much stuff happening also huge news flash apparently Tom Hardy revealed that there is a Spider-Man that Sony has in its Sony verse that is not Tom Holland. So I'll do a video about that later this week to be sure to enable alerts for my channel so you don't miss any that everybody click here for my brand-new venom let there be carnage trailer video and click here to learn how Marvel just changed Avengers 5 thank you so much for watching and I'll see you guys the next one!