Behavior Changes around Ozempic/Semaglutide (GLP-1'S) and How They Might Effect You

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our next caller is Andreas from Canada
what's up dude how you doing man what's
happening glad you I'm glad you
emailed yeah uh thank you for taking the
the email um my doctor's concern of
course was my health markers um but I
had thought OIC just to be the new hot
for pharmaceutical and I've had a hard
time trusting big farmer recently and I
think you guys know why
however after gop1 agonists uh have been
around for almost 20 years and uh a lot
and having hearing a lot of anecdotal
evidence of its H hedonistic wanting
effects largely from Adam and S I became
more interested uh I understand hitting
protein goals and resistance training is
King while on treatment and I know Adam
has said as much Adam also mentioned
that this is a good time to fix your
relationship to food and I'd like a
little more clarification on this
also what other strategies can I use to
set myself up for Success while while on
OIC and coming out of it good great
question yes that's why I wanted to go
on very good question all right things
to look out for uh when you start is
your appetite getting absolutely crushed
are you getting
nauseous um those things you want to pay
attention for uh to because then you
probably would want to go with a lower
dose um so you want an appetite
reduction but you don't want to get so
bad where you can't you can't hold
anything down um although not super
common that can definitely happen so pay
attention to that um as far as food
relationship is concerned so I'm going
to simplify this for you and then I'll
add a little a little bit more to it
whenever you have a behavior every time
you practice that behavior you maintain
the neural connections and you
essentially you maintain the behavior so
you talk about gaming for example gaming
addiction if you play every single day
you're kind of reinforcing that behavior
every single day if you stop for
whatever reason let's just say you know
we forced you to stop we took all your
games away you couldn't play for 6
months that behavior starts to weaken
and those neural connections starts to
weaken because you're not practicing the
behavior this is where you can get in my
belief my opinion where a lot of the
behavior modification effects can happen
from using a gp1 because your appetite
is reduced you're eating less and so
you're not
constantly strengthening this overeating
you know type of Behavior now there is
evidence that suggests that there's
probably more to this where it actually
does through maybe reduction in neural
inflammation um and maybe some other
stuff that I don't know and understand
that it may also just affect the
hedonistic uh parts of the brain to
where you just through some other
mechanisms I don't understand will
reduce your desire to even engage in
those behaviors okay so that so there's
that here's the other part that I would
say when you're on OIC and it's working
for you and you find yourself eating
less every time you eat you're going to
have to make a
conscious uh make a conscious practice
of awareness with the food it's going to
feel silly it's going to feel awkward
but literally it's one of these things
I'm eating this cuz I want to care for
myself I'm eating this because I want to
be healthy I deserve to be healthy like
you got to say that to yourself every
single time and it's going to feel weird
like any other Behavior feels when you
first start it like when you see a kid
first start to ride a bike it looks
awkward and weird because they don't
know how so what I'm saying is going to
feel that way for a while cuz I when I
tell people this like that's stupid I
don't want to say that to myself every
time I eat well you won't have to every
time but at first you'll make that
decision now to someone who's spiritual
I would say pray before you eat that's
one way to do it someone who isn't
spiritual you could write it down or you
could just say it out loud to yourself
like okay I know they said this sounds
this feels weird but I want to care for
myself I want to take care I want to be
healthy I deserve to be healthy and then
you do it and then little by little
you're actually creating this new
relationship with food and it does take
time um uh to do so and that's really
what it's all about now the other thing
I want to say is this keep your water
intake up I just we just came back from
a peptide conference and I and I heard a
talk on glp 1's by these are leading
Physicians and researchers in the world
okay so it's like Dr seeds put this
event together I was very very lucky to
hear some of these talks I got I got to
hear information that I haven't heard
communicated anywhere else and OIC you
know some some AG glutide tepati any
other gp1s reduce your appetite they
also reduce your thirst so when you eat
less you take in less fluid because you
get fluid through your food something
like up to 20% of your fluid comes from
food and then you also want to drink
less water if you eat less and you drink
less and you're in a deficit that's the
the that sends a sign for your body to
pair muscle down so right consciously
keep your fluid intake up and add
electrolytes to your water because your
sodium is also going to drop as your
food as your food intake drops so I like
uh just any electrolyte powder will work
element te is really good um and you
just add some of it to your water and
then pay attention I need to drink a
half a gallon to a gallon a day stay
consistent with that that'll help
mitigate the things and then supplements
you should be taking
creatine and to get your protein intake
if you're finding it hard to hit your
prot protein targets while on OIC
because your appetite's so low use a
protein powder to hit those targets and
I would use um bone broth or collagen
protein because I also learned that
those proteins are high in amino acids
that are osmolites they're known as
osmolytes they draw water in and you
want that for your muscle so although
whey protein is what everybody talks
about as being the best in this case I
think cagen may actually be superior uh
paleo Valley another partner we work
with they have a chocolate bone broth
proce delicious you're going to want
something palatable if your appetite's
low so those are the things that I would
recommend while you go uh through this
process and what you the two options at
the end of this journey will be stay on
a low dose of a glp1 on and off for the
rest of your life or perhaps you can go
off completely and maintain some of
these behaviors and there's some people
that have been able to do that as well I
want to comment a little bit on the
behavior changing uh stuff as far as
some tips for you and and this becomes
even more important when you come off
and that is if you have certain Behavior
say it's around gaming say it's around
like mine where eating ice cream late at
night or whatever it is one of the cool
Parts about the glp1 is it has it
completely like crushed that for me I
didn't even have it but once I came off
of it th those Temptations came back in
now the neat part was I found that it
was way easier to resist that Temptation
and I re I recognized that what I wanted
to do was to replace that behavior with
a new Behavior so and my new Behavior
became like oh my Greek yogurt and my my
my um fruit so that was like instead of
ice cream I'm going to tell myself okay
I have this craving now I'm going to go
do that it wasn't hard to resist it
because I had cut it out for so long
with the glp1 replac it with that and
now it's like oh my God I forgot how
much I love Greek yogurt and fruit and
i' and what I'm doing is I'm forming a
new relationship with that Temptation
and craving at night that will help
solidify and keep the behaviors at at B
the bad behaviors at Bay if yours might
say yours was gaming and you notice wow
when I'm on this glp1 I have less of a
desire to have to do that all the time
my recommendation would be come up with
a healthy Behavior or a diff a behavior
you want to add to your life so let's
say for example that might be reading
you know or that might be training and
exercising or going for a walk so in
times where you might have defaulted to
oh I'm going to go sit on the video game
for four hours and now you're not doing
it as much try and replace it with a
healthier habit or behavior you want to
add into your life and the glp1 seemed
to there seems to be a lot of research
that's pointing that it helps solidify
those new good behaviors and so be be
aware of that too and then like s said
the journaling as you go through this
process a lot of that is you know not
only being learning to be more present
but it's also noticing patterns and that
was one of the things I shared with the
guys was like you know I didn't even
realize some of the things I was doing
before and so writing that down will
help that for and for when you come off
to be ready for it and be paying
attention and knowing how to how to have
better healthy habits instead of those
right yeah so replacing the habit of
like you know replacing addictions is
was probably one of the things I'm
hoping to do just because I did do it in
the past and especially with my training
and that's kind of how I hit those
numbers uh in in the gym um but for
whatever reason I'm just having a hard
time doing it this time yeah
um for for whatever whatever reason it's
tough man listen it's tough this is a
journey so you're going to go up and
down just just the way it is it's all
Journeys with your workout I'm gonna say
this you when when your calories drop
your volume and intensity need to drop
as well a big mistake people make when
they go on a glp1 is like all right I'm
on this weight loss Journey I'm going to
work out more I'm going to work out
harder not a great idea you're your the
chances that you'll overtrain go up as
the calories go down a good solid
routine is a two or 3 day week full body
routine while you're on this gp1 or even
Advanced Maps 15 would be a good option
and then I would say uh walk yeah after
breakfast lunch and dinner 10-minute
walk you do that you're going to be
you're going to do great yeah if you can
solidify those new patterns and and make
that a routine and that you carry after
you're off um you know this is one of
those things where it's just going to
create a an entirely new protocol for
you so um you know trying to trying to
kind of capture that right now and be
intentional about it you know that's the
hard part but that's what's really going
to um you know replace what you know
Common behaviors you had going into
this right right yeah cuz I'm like I I
do hope to be off with Z eventually just
Cu uh well I'd rather not be on it for
the rest of my life of course sure
understood my friend yeah like uh I mean
I actually haven't even started yet I
actually got my my dose last last week
but uh I was camping this weekend and I
think uh you know I'd rather not find
out that I'm about to [ __ ] my pants and
out in the woods you know so you you
haven't started it Andre scare the Bears
no I I just got the treat I got um I got
the dosage last week and then I was
feeling a little sick last week doctor
said it might uh have some GI distress
as well so um I yeah I figured it might
just be a good idea not to do it until I
come back home sure yeah yeah do you
mind me asking how much they're charging
you per what's a month go for insurance
covers some of it I think oh um I think
it was like uh was it
0.06 sorry 68 G uh was going for like
250 bucks Canadian yeah so um the thing
with OIC brand name is there's it's a
set dosage so if you find some of the
like nausea and it crushes your appetite
talk to your doctor say I want to take a
lower dose CU I I I know the O OIC pen
is like pre-loaded like it's like boom
this is a dose versus yeah the one that
I got it has two doses so it was like
like a half dose and and then I guess
the full dose yes but even the half dose
for some people is too high you now you
might be fine people are fine so don't
freak out but if you're like oh my God
this my like I I can't I don't want to
eat anything I'm crushed um or you feel
nausea then it's then it's it's probably
a little too high so like the the
compound pharmacies you you you draw
yourself with a insulin needle and so
you could go as low as you want you know
starting dose let's say would be 25
units whatever that is in milligrams and
then you'd be like oh that's too much
I'm going to go way down to five or 10
the preloaded pens don't necessarily
allow you to do that so if you just
don't feel good that doesn't mean
necessarily it's not for you it may mean
the dose is just too high tell your
doctor is there a way to cut this even
in half um and and you know take even
less although many people don't don't
have that problem Andreas also I'm going
have Doug send you the link we haven't
like formally announced this um but it's
coming we are going to actually coach
people through uh a three-month program
that we wrote specifically for gp1s and
so training program lifestyle like
you'll get coached by Adam myself and
Justin and so we're going to allow only
50 Slots of people to do this with um
and when we launch the program and it's
coming and we're creating a weit list of
people that would be interested in it
and so if you go and Doug we'll send
that over to you but it's coach
g1.com um and then you could and then
anytime we release any information we'll
send it out to that email list first so
fill that out so you have access to that
if that's something you're interested in
um we'll make sure to keep you uh in the
loop hey that's awesome yeah I'll
definitely uh sign up for that good good
and you know what Circle back with us in
a couple months I want to hear how this
goes yeah yeah yeah absolutely all right
all right man all right hey thanks guys
thank you
brother yeah we were uh I was chatting
with him via DM yeah it says that in his
email yeah yeah and like you know like I
knew like his he had good questions and
I'm like it's like Nuance this is going
to take me a long time to go back and
forth via DM I do want to say to and I I
made it this point a little bit but the
brand name um you know gp1s they come
preloaded and it's like you you have two
dose options and that's it and after
talking to Dr Tina yeah and that
episode's already up after talking to Dr
Tina she's like that's too high for a
lot of people even my own experience
yeah I mean I it's actually a little
baffling to me that they don't start
really low and then kind of work their
way up so I I also because that's the
clinical dose in the studies that gave
them the highest body weight I don't
know for sure but from my experience of
the people that we've been talking to it
seems to be people that are healthier
metabolically IE require less require
less and so I'm I'm assuming that that
that's why they don't that's why they
probably have that as a generic CU I
think most people they see in the that's
what the data right yeah so I think that
has a lot to do with but look I have a
buddy that that was overweight he wasn't
metabolically healthy and he took the
the tiny start the the recommended
starting dose oh nauseous felt terrible
I mean I I asked him I wanted to know
the the price because a lot of people
don't first of all oica is like the
first generation of these these recent
ones and tritide is is better that's a
dual Agonist yeah it's better it's
generic naming and so it's just not it's
not going to be as expensive so people
that that don't understand that going
through your your doctor and getting OIC
even though even if he has some
insurance covering he might be paying
more than what he would pay if he were
to go through MP hormones so I was just
talking to a friend really similar to
his you know size and situation and all
that really what really helped him he
started actually reading like an
intuitive or like a mindful kind of
eating book and then I sent him our
intuitive guide and really got a lot of
benefit with that going into it so that
way he had sort of a you know an
objective like something like I want to
start focusing on these Whole Foods and
start incorporating these things very
slowly and it's it's been really helpful
that's why I gave that tip about like
recognizing where these habits and
behaviors are and then instead of just
being like oh nice they're gone going
like oh what can I replace in there to
create a new habit intentional going yes
and I think that's an area where again
this is highlighting why we want to do
this with a a a group of people to
really help people understand that you
know we're we're you're really missing
the target if all you do is get on this
drug just to lose a bunch of weight and
you don't put any work in you're not
think you're not going in with any sort
of intent you don't create new behaviors
around stuff like that you don't make
the connections to the things that you
doing before otherwise you're signing up
to just be on the [ __ ] for the rest of
your life and I don't think that's the
goal for us at all for people it's that
use this it's a a very powerful tool and
if you're going to use it let's use it
and make it impactful so that you don't
have to use it for the rest of your life
and these are some of the things I think
that we're going to cover during this
this coaching process
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