【輕武器科普(熟肉)】美國陸軍的新型手槍 Sig Sauer M17_x264
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今天我們要討論的就是SIG Sauer M17
如果你對這個彈藥不熟悉
或是為什麼它如此重要
這是美國軍隊最新的手榴彈
許多部件已經轉移到這裡
包括我的部件
雖然我們還沒有轉移
但很快就會有
是的
這將會是它
M9已經不存在了
這是一個很重要的事情
所以很有趣
我們能夠在這裡
獲得一些很好的印象
在美國軍隊的全面採購之前
所以讓我們開始
在此之前
充分宣佈
我與SIG的關係
沒有任何關係
我真的不知道那些人在那裡
我可能正在和他們的裝置部門工作
但在這家公司本身
他們不和我聊天
我們不是在談話
這把手榴彈是由BigDaddy Limited提供的
所以很酷
你只需要通過第三方
沒有偏見
我不認為它存在
但是我估計它比較少偏見
所以我不直接和這家公司聊天
而彈藥是由Fancy Brass公司提供的
所以讓我們感謝它們
所以我覺得M17很有趣
就是它被採購
然後人們馬上就說
噢,我會把我的M9
NEJ比M17
我會說
這就像M9被採購
然後人們就說
噢,我會把我的1911比M9
我認為M17是一個進步
我只是想把這件事說出來
但是我們來談談
為什麼它是一個進步
為什麼我認為它有好幾種好處
所以我們來談談
首先
武器的核心
手榴彈
手榴彈做得很好
我沒有任何抱怨
手榴彈大約4.7英寸
這是它應用的長度
手榴彈對我來說是相當準確的
我聽過很多評論者
很多射手評論這件事
他們在射手榴彈的時候
他們就說
噢,它正確地射到我想要的位置
我認為這可能是因為
比手榴彈更多的因素
因為我認為手榴彈
就像SIG手榴彈一樣準確
我只是認為
幾個因素在SIG手榴彈中發揮
包括發射器和目標
以及手感等等
就讓它變得更有樂趣
射手榴彈
射手榴彈會更容易
射到你想要的位置
所以手榴彈是
對這件事完全沒問題的
說到手榴彈
我們來談談
這個手榴彈
這裡有前面的刺刺
我知道很多人
很擔心
前面的刺刺
有些人會說
噢,你知道
他們是為了什麼
你要坐在那裡檢查
什麼原因
這裡有一個充滿了氣泵指標
等等
我們來談談它
我之前已經提過
但是
很多手榴彈
在歷史中
都會有
前面的刺刺
或者一些膠帶
前面的刺刺
這樣你能夠輕易
掌握前面的手榴彈
來操縱它
我認為操縱前面的刺刺
比操縱後面的刺刺
所以
我喜歡它有
前面的刺刺
它們非常有彈性
它們很容易
讓你的手拿起來
然後它們會動
那為什麼你需要
前面的刺刺
我稍微提到過
第一
對我來說
你知道
操縱手榴彈
比較容易
因為我能夠
保持手榴彈
讓我更容易操縱它們
另一個原因
是你需要做壓縮檢查
現在
壓縮檢查在
手榴彈世界中
但是
你知道
對於很多手榴彈
它們沒有
一個很好的
充滿氣泵指標
或者
也許它們
不太能操縱
你必須做它們
它只是
讓你知道
你有沒有
充滿氣泵
所以你拿起來
你能夠感受
或看到刺刺
為什麼你需要感受刺刺
如果它在
黑暗狀態
你無法使用
任何燈光
去感受
確保那個手榴彈
確實存在
現在M17
有一個充滿氣泵指標
是相當靠譜
我沒有聽過
任何壞事
現在它在
手榴彈的手冊中
確實寫著
檢查它的功能
你知道
每隔一段時間
當你做你的
一般的維修檢查
但是在我的情況
都很好
我做了四千個回合
通過這個M17
我沒有任何問題
那個充滿氣泵指標
有些問題
我們先說說
這個手榴彈的維修
是PVD
非常棒
它被稱為
非常堵塞
我認為
這是一個很好的塗裝
所以
你知道
沒有問題
我覺得他們做了
一個很好的工作
它是Glock的維修
我認為它不是很堅固
但是我認為它是
非常合適
應有的工作
它會進行
一種服務手榴彈
好
維修
維修的維修
所以它有維修塗裝
在前維修
和後維修
前維修完全沒問題
後維修
有一點點
在我的意見
後維修很廣
因為
後維修
也是一個
裝置
那就是
Lupo Delta Point Pro
但無論什麼原因
他們把後維修
做得非常非常厚
因為這個
它隱瞞了很多你的視野
我認為它不需要那麼厚
像Glock一樣
仍然有
很薄的視野
或任何後維修
視野都很薄
所以我對後維修
它隱瞞了很多你的視野
當你看到手榴彈
再加上
我認為前維修
要比我想要的厚一點
我想要一點點
薄一點
在我的意見
而我明白
為什麼他們把它做得很厚
是為了
快速的目標取得
等等
但仍然
我認為薄一點
在我的意見
M17
絕對有益
好的
從螺絲
移到框架
框架很酷
框架
可以完全被換掉
所以
框架內的原始部份
很容易被換掉
無論什麼
我看過很多圖片
或者這是在做瘋狂的事情
你可以安裝在手榴彈
等等
所以我認為SIG
有很多想法
關於模組
在未來
確保這是
未來證明的武器
我認為這是一個
非常好的主意
所以
為此
我認為他們在這裡
做了很好的事情
這把手榴彈
在這裡很容易使用
很像其他SIG手榴彈
沒有問題
手榴彈很簡單
我不覺得
手榴彈很簡單
我認為手榴彈
會比較堅固
比我想要的堅固
但無論如何
它非常有功能
我們來看看
這些控制器
我們有兩個控制器
它們是無線的
所以我們有我們的安全
所以這把M17
確實有安全
而這就像MHS所要求的一樣
所以軍方要求它們
擁有手榴彈安全
Glock也有手榴彈安全
所以我是否喜歡手榴彈安全
不
我比較喜歡
手榴彈安全
但是
沒關係
它很容易
操作
它很小
而且不侮辱
而且很好
這把手榴彈
可能是我最喜歡的部分
M17
我認為它有很多原因
M17在某些方面
比Glock還要強
原因是
Glock
它的手榴彈擺放
擺放的位置
跟一般的手榴彈擺放一樣
很多人會
操控手榴彈擺放
這有點煩
操控手榴彈擺放
我知道你可以調整手榴彈擺放
操控手榴彈擺放
相比之下
M17擺放的擺放很小
這可能會有問題
你可能會覺得
噢,這很糟糕
我沒辦法操控它
但是它擺放的位置
至少對我中小手的操控
操控手榴彈擺放
如果我需要操控
我可以輕鬆的操控
操控手榴彈擺放
Modern handgun holding techniques
And how we're gripping the handgun
And they designed the controls around that
Because of that
I'm never depressing the slide release
Or putting pressure on it
Where the gun's locking back at weird times
Which can happen with a lot of handguns
So I really appreciate the fact that
They think they took a lot of time
To look at how the modern shooter
Fires his handgun
And they've appropriately
Designed the controls around that
As opposed to a Glock
Which has just kind of been
Stubbornly obstinate
And its placement
Of its slide release
In my opinion
Because of the way your thumb rests
When you draw this handgun
Your thumb's just right on that
On that safety
So it just automatically releases
For me every time I bring the gun up
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So I can really appreciate
Everything that they did here
Just a wonderful job
As far as control placement on the M17
Magazine release is easy to use
No problem
Reversible
If you need to reverse it
If you're lefty like I am
But yeah
No problems there
Very easy to actuate
Magazines drop free
Now one quick note
The magazines are very well made
But here's one thing
This particular magazine
Holds 17 rounds
Now if you were to take
The 17 round magazine
And put it in there
With the slide closed
Pulling that slide back
Is going to be very difficult
The reason for that
Is there's a lot of pressure
On that spring in that magazine
So it puts a lot of pressure on the slide
That makes it very hard to retract
So when you're doing a reload
I prefer to lock the slide back
And load it if I'm using a full mag
Just as a quick note
After that it's perfectly A-OK
But just so you guys know
So we've talked about
Pretty much everything
Kind of going into this
Let's get into the trigger here
So the trigger is always a hot topic
When it comes to a striker fired handgun
There's a lot of great
Striker fired handguns out there
Like the Walther
Like the VP9 and others
But how does the SIG Sauer M17
Compare to the other MHS candidate
Which was the Glock
Now in this case this is Glock 45
Of course it's not the actual
One that they submitted
But the trigger is no different
So let's try it out
So we're going to go ahead and ghost this
So you guys are going to go ahead
And put your finger on the trigger
I'm going to put my finger right over yours
And we're going to make some pottery
Play a little Unchained Melody
Let's try this out
So pulling into it
I got about a two and a half
Maybe millimeter travel or so
OK pressing down
OK about 5.5 pound
Maybe 6 pound let off
Feels OK
I kind of have heard it described as
Like anti-climatic
When you pull the trigger
When you're dry firing it
OK reset
I'm sure we're good
Let it forward
OK a little gritty coming forward
That might be because I
Tucked this into a muddy creek
But about 4 pounds of let off
Is when it came forward
It's not amazing but it works
OK let's pull out your roll one more time
OK a little bit of mush
And then it crisps up
And you kind of get a nice
Little let off there
About that kind of 6 poundish mark
OK let's compare that to a Glock right here
OK put your finger right over mine
Let's ghost this together
OK pulling that
OK we got about 3
3 a little bit more travel than the M17
OK we got mush, mush, mush, mush, mush
5.5 pound let off
Let off is softer
However there's a lot of
Creep and mush going into it
OK reset going off there
Let off about 3 pounds of
Nice
3 pounds of pressure
And it resets
It's a very short reset
It feels very smooth
It's really good
OK pulling that trigger again
About 5.5 pounds
Between these two
They're very different
It's kind of hard to say
Which one is better
Because they have such
Different feels to them
I do prefer the M17s
A little bit more
And let me explain why
With the M17
When you're firing it
You get that take up
And a little bit of mush
But you have a pretty light
Lighter than the Glock
Let off overall
And it's a little bit crisper
The Glock
You get a lot of mush
And that pressure is kind of
Builds until it's kind of
Mushy click at the end
It makes a nice
Really satisfying click
But the M17s
This feels a little bit more
Precise to me
That being said
The Glock definitely has
A superior reset
Than does the M17
And resets do matter
They make it easier
Especially when you're firing
At speed and making multiple shots
Which is probably going to be
Something with a service handgun
So I can appreciate
That the Glock trigger
Is definitely better on the reset
But overall I think
That they're equally matched
And they're just kind of
Trading blows when it comes to that
So let's talk about the grip angle
The M17 is much straighter
And for me
Much more natural to point
Very similar to like
A Browning Hi-Power
Compared to like the Glock
Which is kind of an aggressive angle
Which helps you control recoil
However makes it so
You have to kind of
Cant your wrist down
On an odd angle to make sure
That you're getting the sights on target
Which is fine
You know
Everyone trains to do that
And me included
But I definitely can appreciate
How nice the M17 feels
Now that being said
I do think that the grip
Leaves a little bit to be desired
The grip kind of ends down here
And I wish the grip
Would have continued up through here
Where you would have had
Some texturing up there
To help your kind of
Thumbs grip into it
Much like what you know
Modern Stipplers are doing
To current Glocks right
I just wish they would have
Had a little bit more texture
Up higher
They don't it's okay
But it could really improve
The feel of the handgun
Had they added that texture
All the way up the firearm right there
Now another comparison is
Although for the military
The 320 was very very cheap
In fact they even undercut the M9
For civilians it is not so cheap
This thing is costing
A little bit of money here
Around six seven hundred dollars
And the magazines are quite pricey
Around 40 bucks per mag
Compare that to a Glock
Which is around five or six hundred
And the mags are you know
12 to 15 bucks
It's kind of a no-brainer
When it comes to the civilian world
But for the military
These are very cheap
So you know way to go Glock
Just crushing contracts
By just underbidding everybody
And they certainly are
They are crushing military
Contracts right now
So with all that being said
How does it feel to shoot
It's actually very pleasant
I really enjoy shooting this firearm
Now the bore axis is a little bit higher
On the M17 than the Glock
What I mean by that is
Where your hand grips the gun
The height of the barrel
Is higher than it is
When you're gripping a Glock
What that means is
I have a little bit of height
In mathematics and science
Kind of going against me
So I should be feeling more felt recoil
Now with all that being said
I think due to the grip angle
The nice trigger
Kind of everything going on up there
The M17 feels very pleasant to shoot
And I really liked it
I can be just as aggressive with an M17
As I can with a Glock 45
So you know
I kind of put that on the perspective
I was like okay
So we have the M17
It was chosen
How does it do reliability wise
The Glock is fairly well known
For being a just durable tank
That will just chew through anything
So we took the M17
And I'm no you know
Reliability tester by any means
I think Military Arms Channel
Does a much better job
But I took this little bitch
And I hucked it into a muddy river
After that I pulled it out
And we just ran a mag through it
Worked fine
Put another mag in it
Ran it through
Ran fine
So as you can see
No problems there
This is a very reliable firearm
I haven't had any hiccups
In all the rounds that I put through it
Which is to be expected
Of a modern 9mm service pistol
I would expect no less from a Glock
And I've seen the same performance
So here's what it comes down to
For me the M17 and the Glock trade blows
You know when they're in the NHS program
I'm sure they were fairly equally matched
Because they both feel really good
They both shoot really good
They both have pretty good triggers
For striker fired weapons
You know sights
Are always kind of suck
From stock pistols
But what it came down to
I think is probably price
The SIG massively underbid Glock
And because of that it was selected
I find them to be very much so
Firearms that match each other
But because of bidding the M17 won
Now that being said
Do I think that that was a bad choice
No I don't
I think that the M17 is a good pistol
And I think it will prove itself
Over the years to be
An excellent service weapon
I enjoy it quite a bit
And I'll be switching over to this
As one of the main firearms
That I shoot
Due to the fact that
In military
This is what I'm going to be using
So I need to become
More and more familiar with it
So if you are planning on buying a 320
Or an M17
Yeah you'll absolutely be happy with it
If you're not in the military
I don't know that the M17
Is the best version to get
The manual safety is in my mind
Kind of not needed
But if you want to have
You know that military type firearm
You want to get as close as you can
The M17 is pretty close
If you want a exact replica
There's an M17 commemorative
Where it has FDE controls
And that is apparently
What is standard in the military
That also costs a lot more money
So if you want to
Spend more money
Get some Gucci FDE controls
Then good on you
Otherwise the M17 will be just as well
But here's the thing
Is the pistol is good and all that
But the fact of the matter is
Is if you don't train with it
You're still going to suck with it
You know if the guy has a M17
And he puts you know
10,000 rounds to this thing
Over a couple of years
And trains hard
He's still going to crush
The guy at the Glock
Who doesn't shoot at all
So make sure you get training guys
There are plenty of great places
To get training on
Cogworks, Bear Solutions, Travis Haley
Who probably grew me in a vat
Tony Cowden, Esoteric
Plenty of other great guys
Get that training
Learn how to shoot
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Gentlemen thank you so much for watching
The M17 is a pretty interesting pistol
We'll be having a lot more
Videos talking about this design
As we get upwards in the round count
Towards 20,000 and 30,000 rounds
So here's to the future
And let's get going
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