FIRST LOOK: Rodin FZero – 1500bhp Single-Seat V10 Madness!

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What if I was to say to you that one of the most extreme cars in the world, a car claimed
to be faster than a Formula 1 car, came not from Italy, or Germany, or the UK, but from
New Zealand?
And no, that's not an AI backdrop.
This is the Rodin F-Zero.
Prepare to have your mind blown.
Now just in case you think you're looking at vapourware, here's a quick bit of background
on Rodin.
It's got previous, having bought the T125 project from Lotus and re-engineered it as
the FZ.
At its premises on South Island, it not only has its own racetrack and fully equipped pit
garages, but a state-of-the-art production facility filled with 3D printers, a foundry
and 5-axis milling machines.
The investment here to build the F-Zero is colossal.
It also recently bought the super-successful Carlin Motorsport outfit that's competed in
everything from F2 to Indy Lights.
The man behind all of this is entrepreneur David Dicker.
So David, where did the idea for this car come from?
I always wanted to build a car quicker than an F1.
And obviously, as time has gone on, that has become more and more possible.
Like back in the 70s and 80s, it wasn't possible in the same way because the cars were unrestricted
and that was the quickest car anyone could make, but it's different now.
So that was the idea.
So literally, build your own F1 car, if you like.
Just to prove, I guess, that you didn't have to spend the enormous amounts of money they
spend to go fast.
Obviously, this car costs money and we spend a fair bit of money on it, but nothing like
what the F1 guys spend.
So where did you start?
What was your first port of call?
Were you doing the chassis, the aero, the engine?
Where did you start?
Well, I started with the basic concept for the car.
Obviously, you're going to use fenders because you're not going to have the tyres out in
the air if you can possibly avoid it.
And you're going to use a canopy for the same reason.
And then it just sort of draws from there.
I mean, I can't draw in any of that pencil and paper stuff.
So I'm a computer guy from, you know, way back.
So it's all been done on CAD, but you start on the CAD and you just, you know, you just
draw lines and you pull around and you just sort of do stuff.
And yeah.
Yeah.
So, right. Can we go through it and just talk me around it?
So where do we start?
Because the proportion of some of the sizes you've got for like the front wing and
everything, they're huge.
They're absolutely huge.
So how much downforce are you developing?
I think the front wing can make 1,800 kilograms.
The front wing can make 1,800 kilos?
We do all our testing at 300K, but I think that was the sort of number that we could
get out of it.
It's a lot.
Wow.
It's enormous.
Yeah.
So if you've got 1,800 kilos on the front axle, how much have you got on the rear?
Well, this car generates probably a bit over 4,000 kilograms of downforce.
At 186 miles an hour, 300Ks.
We're going to do, I've pretty much finished the design for a Mk2 car that's learnt from
this car.
We're going to run a lower downforce there.
We're going to probably run about 3,000 kilograms.
Right.
Because the 4,000 just gets a bit higher.
You've got issues with the tyres and all the other stuff.
And have you done, you've done everything in-house?
Have the aero's been done in-house?
I've done all the aero.
We will use outside consultant guys that just sort of correlate it and make sure that no
huge idiotic mistakes were made.
But yeah, basically.
Yeah.
And are those guys all F1 engineers?
They're guys that have worked in F1.
So if we come back down the side, these look suspiciously like Formula One style wheels
as well.
Yeah, well Oz made these wheels for us and they're basically the same as the F1 wheel.
It's a forged magnesium wheel and all the details have been done.
I think these wheels are 8 kilograms on the front and 8 or 9 at the back and this is basically
as good a wheel as you can get.
And these fenders, I understand, are they not finished yet?
You've got a bit of work to do with these.
Well, it didn't quite, they're obviously sitting too high and didn't quite come out right.
I mean, it's fine on a Proto and that, but on the Version 2 car we bring these down pretty
much as close as we can possibly get them just to reduce the frontal area.
So you've got full carbon suspension, it's all inboard obviously and everything's just
sort of tidied up very neatly so you want clean air, I suppose, coming as far down the
car as you can.
Yeah, well the big advantage is that you can send most of it down there.
Obviously on the F1 cars they've just got an enormous block there or on a sports car
you've got an enormous block there and that's just going to get you.
We put the radiators in the fenders so the radiators are in on an angle and we just draw
through here and we just fire out the back.
Because that's exactly what I was wondering, I was trying to work out where you were doing
your cooling because you've got, there's going to be a lot of heat being generated and so
the radiators are all out in the flanks and then the cooling pipes are running from in
underneath.
Right.
But you've got, this is fascinating to me, you've got the five exhaust pipes, so you've
got a V10 in there which we'll talk about in a second, but the five exhaust pipes run
out into the flank.
Yeah, well the turbos are in there, again we've got to get it out of the wind, the airstream.
Yeah, so you've got turbo on either side, so twin turbo engine and it's, tell me about
the engine.
In fact, tell you what, before you do that, can we take the engine cover off and have
a look because I think we can have a look under there.
Yeah, sure, go ahead.
Just look at how tight the packaging is under the carbon cover.
Dicker is rightly proud of that, especially having the intercoolers mounted directly on
top of the trumpets, reducing the intake lengths.
The engine is a custom built four litre V10, done entirely to Rodin's design.
They had originally considered using a Judd V10, but eventually the plan is to build road
cars and that engine, with its port injection system, would never pass emissions regulations.
The first two engines were built by a British specialist, but in its production facility
here, Rodin has all the tools necessary to create its own engines from the ground up.
They even have a foundry for on-site castings.
They are one of the few companies in the world that can do everything from casting engine
blocks to test driving cars on the same site.
You can't build cars without a test track, the test track's where they've got to come
first.
Yeah.
It's just, I mean, you need to pound around to get them working.
I completely agree, but I think 95% of the world's car companies haven't got the facilities
in the way that you have.
Fiorano is probably the closest comparison you've got here.
Yeah, well, I've been to the factory in Italy on numerous occasions, and you see the way
that they do it, and obviously Ferrari's very successful.
But you've got more power than a Ferrari in here, haven't you?
This engine made 1,013 horsepower at 11 psi at about 9.6.
Yeah, and that's not production ready yet.
That was really just a run-up.
And you're looking at, what do you think?
Well, we run the engine to 10,000 RPM, and we'll run one and a half atmospheres, so that's
what, 21, 22 psi?
Yeah.
So that should get us to 1,500 or 1,600 horsepower, which in what should still be a reliable package.
And that'll be the aim.
Yeah.
And we're talking, what are we talking, for weight?
This car is way too heavy, and it's embarrassing to even mention the numbers, so I'm not going
to mention it.
But what are you aiming for?
Our aim is to build a car the same weight as the current F1.
The F1's are 798 with the driver.
Our target is 698, ready to go except for the driver, so that would just get you a bit
under the F1.
So that's 698, so it's carbon chassis, carbon body panels and everything.
Then you've got your own engine and gearbox, not your gearbox, I'm guessing.
Well, this gearbox is built for us by Rocoto completely to our specification.
This one's an 8-speed forward, no reverse.
We're going to do a 7-speed with reverse going forward.
It's got a printed titanium case, and it's got internals, sort of like, in fact, LeMond-style
internals to deal with the engine too, but completely custom designed by Rocoto.
And you're doing your own 3D printing on site as well, aren't you?
Yeah.
It's a hell of an investment.
Yeah.
It really is.
It's amazing.
And you just don't expect it.
You're used to these things coming from big companies and stuff, but you've put an enormous
amount of investment in down here.
Yeah, I know, but I mean, look, I'm 71 years old.
I've always wanted to do it.
I've managed to make the money to be able to do it, so I'm going to do it.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not going to be able to take it with me.
I don't have any kids, so there it goes.
Amazing.
So, yeah, let's come a bit further back.
So that, I'm guessing, is that's the exhaust valve from the turbos.
Well, that's the entire exhaust.
Oh, it's the entire exhaust.
Originally, we were going to take it out here, but we had a few issues and we ended up doing
it out there.
We probably will move back to this position.
The hope is that we can make it out of titanium.
Obviously, you've got an issue with titanium because of the heat, but with it being in
the Airstream, I think it'll probably cope.
And titanium is much lighter than Inconel, so it's a weight saver.
So just looking down the side of the car, obviously, you're venting air out behind the
front wheels there, so you're trying to get rid of the air there, and you've got intakes
here, but there's a slot right down the bottom there.
Is this all part of the aero package?
Yeah, the slot feeds air into the back of the floor and just improves the floor flow.
And on the CFD, we got a massive increase in the operation of the floor with it.
And so downforce, you were saying this is 4,000 kilos or whatever.
What sort of lap times, what sort of performance do you think that's going to be giving you?
Well, on the version two car, we've run through simulation software that we use at the race
team in the UK.
And with 1,500 horsepower and the same weight as a current F1 car, it shows the car seven
seconds a lap quicker around Albert Park than an RB20.
Really?
Yeah, I know, it's amazing.
I mean, 1,500 horsepower gives you a lot of straight line shunt, doesn't it?
Yeah, I mean, it makes a massive...
I mean, look, it's unfair on the F1 guys, because obviously they're all running around
with a handstyle behind their back, but that's just the reality of the situation, and we
just want to show that, you know, other things are possible.
Obviously, single seater.
Can we have a look inside the cockpit?
Yeah, sure.
How does it open?
Yeah, well, that's a good question.
I think it's around the back here.
Is it on that pull?
Oh, look at that.
The steering wheel's titanium, and the column, and we have air conditioning as well, because...
That was going to be my next question.
It's going to get hot in there under that canopy, isn't it?
If you shut the canopy and the sun is out, you can get up to 50 degrees here in 5 or
10 minutes.
Honestly, you couldn't drive the car without the air, and the other beauty is, of course,
once you've got that, it's actually going to be comfortable, and that's important.
Is it all right if I have a sit in?
Yeah, no, go ahead.
Right, I'm going to have to take my...
You're not going to find that seat very comfortable.
It's hard carbon, but anyway.
Right, okay, let's give it a go.
Haven't got my small race boots on today.
What have we got going on?
You've got a DRS button on here, so you've got an active rear wing, obviously.
Yeah, we can have it.
I'm not sure if we'll end up actually having it in the production car, because it doesn't
make that much difference, and you're going to have weight and complication, so that one's
a 50-50.
Fine, okay.
You've got a lot of mechanical adjustments you can do here, so brake bias, diff settings
as well.
We have ABS, and we also have automatic upshifts, and you can set which gear you start the automatic
upshifts in, because you don't need it when you get to fourth or fifth, but we need to
make the car drivable, and things like ABS and automatic upshifts help you a lot, because
the engine speed comes up so quickly that it's very difficult without those sort of
things.
Yeah, and what are you going to be running?
So you've got three screens in front of me here.
What are you going to be running on those, just all the technical information and stuff?
We probably put a bit of a camera view on each one on the side, so you can look out
the back.
Yeah, just in case anyone's there.
Yeah.
Excellent.
Right, let me just jump back out.
Amazing, right.
I want to come around the back, because you've got a lot of surface area here, isn't it?
And I think when you see the car from the side, it looks quite heavy, so it's quite
like a Batmobile, really, isn't it?
You need the fins to balance the cockpit visually.
If you just have a cockpit in the middle, and it's flat, it's ugly.
It doesn't look right.
That's the main reason for the curves in the fenders, really, is the Italians would say
it's just optical.
Yeah, yeah.
But obviously, the fin does have some advantages aerodynamically.
Yeah.
Because if anything, it's almost like there's a riff on it, it's like an old land speed
record car.
Because these fins, the pods, are as big as the central pod in itself.
Yeah, they're much lighter, though.
A lot lighter, yeah.
And then you've got this enormous twin-plane rear wing, and a rear diffuser, which finishes
obviously quite a bit earlier at the moment.
Is that design going to change?
On the Version 2 car, we've got a lot more out of the floor than we have on this car.
Yeah.
We've got some massive gains there.
We're moving the lower control arms up in line with the drive shaft, so they won't be
in the airstream anymore, they'll be above.
And that's a massive gain as well.
And just looking down there, are those 3D-printed wheel hubs you've got as well?
Yeah, yeah.
And the suspension arms, the suspension arm ends as well.
Yeah, 3D-printed titanium, and titanium printed uprights.
I mean, titanium's a fundamentally better metal than aluminium, so we want to use it
wherever we can, really.
And what's the plan with the car?
Are you hoping to go into production with it?
Yeah, we'd like to.
I figure we try and build 30 cars and sell 27 of them.
You're going to need a prototype.
I'm going to at least want to keep one, and there'll probably be something that gets screwed
up.
But yeah, we would like to.
I mean, look, we see this car as a competitor to the RB17.
So, you know, we're going to go after that.
Fantastic.
And you're there ahead of them at the moment.
Yeah, well, you know, obviously they've got a massive amount of resource and all the other
stuff, so I don't know how that's going to pan out.
But, you know, it's good to have a target and we just give it a shot.
Great, fantastic.
Right, do you think we can start it up and have a listen?
Yeah, sure.
Brilliant.
The F-Zero is easily one of the wildest prototypes we've ever encountered.
And a question remains about whether wealthy enthusiasts share Dicker's passion and desire
for a car that, like the McMurtry Spearling, is so head-scramblingly fast that it can rival
F1 lap times.
But let's worry about that when the time comes.
Right now, it looks like Red Bull and Adrian Newey might not have everything their own way.
