Why I brought Ashley Cole with me to Everton | Frank Lampard

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How would you describe the job you've got here, short term, and following on from that,
the challenge that you've then got longer term?
In pure footballing terms, if that's what you're saying, of course we know we're in
a position that the club doesn't want to be in. I've got a lot of belief in the squad
and I've been watching the squad and their games closely from the outside, so I'm under
no illusions. I feel that we have a squad that can improve quickly, I hope. I'll have
my own idea and my staff will to try and make sure that we do that. It starts with work
on the training ground, it starts with the mindset of the group, but we understand and
I understand that in the short term, the job is to try and improve our league position.
In the long term, it's clear as well that it's a club with big ambition, huge history,
huge fan base and a joint desire throughout it to improve towards the new stadium, towards
being a Premier League club that is fighting towards the top half of the table. There's
a lot of work to be done, but I'm very proud to be given this opportunity to be at the
front of it in football terms as the manager.
What have you told the players about what you expect of them and has anything surprised
you in the few days that you've been working with them as well?
In terms of what I expect of them, we spoke when I first got here a few days ago, which
feels like about three weeks ago now. It's been a busy few days. Not what I expect of
them. I spoke to them about football, about training and about how we have to be as a
group. I think as a manager and as my staff, we are here to lead the group, to also serve
them, to give them the possibilities to improve, to work every day, to play a brand of football
that our fans enjoy watching, but most importantly, to get results. Those start with the building
blocks start about every day and every moment in behaviours and in training, etc. I spoke
about the job will be, as much as it's mine to lead it, the job will be the players. What
I've found in the last three days is that they are a very, very good group in terms
of I know they want to do really well for this football club. It's written all over
their faces. I hope to give them the direction and the organisation and the ability to express
themselves within that, to perform at their best.
From what we've seen, it appears the fans welcome has been a fair bit warmer than maybe
what you would have expected when you were coming here as a player. What have you been
able to get you about the fans' reaction to your appointment?
I've been really pleased. I didn't expect anything different than as a player. This
is one of the stadiums that you came to and sometimes you would take some words. I found
a lot of them at this stadium in particular, sometimes with some good humour, which was
quite a nice relief. But no, it's expected. This is the reason we love the Premier League
and it's the reason why Everton Football Club is steeped in tradition, because of how people
feel about this club. So I was very pleased. I was very thankful for the messages of support,
the general support. I don't expect support and I don't expect universal support. People
have their own opinions. That's their own right. But at the same time, I hope as much
as I have support now and I'm thankful, that people will see how I have a work ethic, the
fans will see, and how I'm going to embrace this job in terms of everything that I do
in the workplace, everything I do about myself around the club and trying to lead it.
If they see that and I think if they see the reaction on the pitch, which is obviously
my job, I hope that support will continue. But yes, I've been very thankful so far and
I appreciate it.
What did that business you did on deadline day say about the support that you're going
to get from within the club as well? And what do you think you can get out of Dele Alli
and Donny van de Beek that maybe we haven't seen from them in recent times?
I've had really positive conversations with the owner, with the board and with the club
in general from the first moment we started to speak. It was very linked together. Particularly
with the chairman Bill Kenwright was fantastic in those conversations as well. I can see
why people held this club in such regard because it's a club people's club.
In terms of the business that we did, I think with both Dele and Donny, they're both very
separate cases. I just look at the player and I look at the person and I had conversations
with both. They're both very, very talented players. They're players I've gone up against
in different ways in the past and was very impressed with them. And sometimes it's good
to get a player that has a point to prove in a certain way because they come here with
a hunger, with a good hunger to come and show themselves. So in both their own separate
ways, I trust in their talent, I trust in them as people. My job now is to set the environment
and as a coach and for the staff and to work them and support them and show the talents
that we all know they have. It's natural ability that they have and we have to harness
it in those. And then get that and join that into the squad because we have some talent
that's already sitting here in the squad. So it's my job to put it all together.
And Ashley Cole coming in, does that complete your backroom staff now? How important was
it to keep Duncan Ferguson as well? Will you miss Jodie Morris?
Yeah, it was very important. Ashley's first day is today to try and bring Ashley in. I
don't need to talk about Ashley the player, we all know it. We all know the record of
him, probably the greatest left back that we've produced in this country. But what I
brought Ashley for is not just that, I brought him for the great coach that he's going to
be at this club, for the work ethic that he's put in and I've seen it behind the scenes
to become a very good young coach. I brought Ashley in for not just that, for the person
that he is and how great he will be around the group to offer words of experience but
also to work alongside him, to improve him alongside all my staff. So yeah, the team
is together. I was delighted to work with Duncan because I saw him from afar, I saw
him close up actually a couple of years ago when they beat us and we had a laugh about
that in the last couple of days. But he's a club legend, he's a person that the players
respect, the club respects, the fans respect and I can only help from tapping into his
experience and knowledge from being here as well. I'm very open and accommodating in
this role and there's no way I'd ever want to be a person to do anything but look at
what's the best for this job and having Duncan around has been great. I've really enjoyed
the few days.
Both Carlo and Rafa spoke when they took the job about the pull of the new stadium, the
potential to take Everton into that new stadium. Did you speak to both Carlo and Rafa and also
is that prospect of going to Bramley Moor part of your motivation here as well?
I didn't speak to them. I've got huge respect for both of them. I'm particularly close to
Carlo because I worked with him for a certain period and we kept a relationship after that.
He's an absolute gentleman and I will speak to him at some point, I will catch up with
him but I didn't want to have any preconceived ideas about the club. It was very clear to
me. I know Everton Football Club from the outside. I now know it intimately from the
inside but it was clear to me the size of this club and the job and obviously the ambition
which is clear. As an identity you can see the stadium is going to start building up
very soon to the eye. It's a huge thing. I would love to be part of that but I cannot
get too far ahead of myself. We have important jobs on our plate in the next two, three months
this season and then we can start dealing with what the future looks like.
How do you reflect on the lessons you've learnt so far in your managerial career and how do
you think it will benefit both yourself and Everton going forward?
I think I'm a person that always reflects. It's good to reflect but it's also good not
to over-reflect because some things you do, you did well. When I reflect on my career
at Derby, we had a really exciting year. Almost got to the incredible prize against the Premier
League. At Chelsea in reflection I probably had a really enjoyable and good 17 months
with the first year of Champions League against expectations and FA Cup final. Then my second
season we were top of the league and then you realise the reality of football at the
top end, probably in a difficult month and the loss of form and then I lose my job. That's
something I'm aware can happen in the game because I've been in it so long and I look
at it with real reflection now. Within that you look at the small things and the small
details. Could you have done this better? Could you have done that? I'm very open in
that sense. Hopefully I can bring those experiences of my career so far. I want to get better
and I want to make the players around me better and I want to make this club better. That's
all I have to look for rather than looking back is just to look forward to what I can do here.
What do you think you've learnt about the team in the short time you've spent with
them over the last few days, maybe that you didn't know before?
I think you should never over-analyse before. I knew the squad, I looked at them a lot but
at the same time it's always different when you see people in the flesh, see them on the
training ground, see how they act, see the body language. I've been really impressed.
I hate to speak too much because you shouldn't speak before you start the game because this
game is all about results. But in my job when you look at the players over the last three
days I've seen a talented group, a group that has maybe had a hit on the confidence as losing
games can do. I've been there many a time as we all do in our careers. So I have a clear
idea of what my priorities are to go with first to try and get the uplift that we need
but I'm very trusting in this group and I'll work with them. I hope people will see from
the outside that work because it will show in the results.
Will you be playing a strong team or do you think you'll be giving the youth some chance?
I'll always play a strong team as I see it. Youth, young players will get their chance
when they deserve it. What I am at first is open to seeing the young players,
to see them in training if they deserve the chance. I'm always, my staff are very open
with the academy to keep an open eye to players as they come through because there's nothing
better for the fans to grab onto than to see players come through their own academy.
But they have to earn their chance. Once they do that then I'll trust in them. But
now of course my priority here is to get results and alongside that if you can develop young
talent and bring them into the first team then of course I'll try and do that.
Just wondered whether there's been quite a high turnover of managers at Everton,
something maybe you were used to at your time in Chelsea. But I just wondered whether you
had any hesitations based on that high turnover and coming into Everton?
No I didn't because I think this is the business that we live in and we will work in. It's not my
job to analyse things that happened before me too much because you don't know the circumstance.
I always like to take at face value and as I mentioned before having spoke to the owner and
the chairman and the board here and it was so open which was something that was very refreshing to me
to see so many important football people within the club united in trying to find the best way
forward which is the position we find ourselves in now. But I didn't concern myself too much.
Like you say I've been experienced in two jobs now. When I went to Derby County everyone told
me that they changed managers all the time. Same at Chelsea, look through the Premier League.
It's easily said but I have to put that to the side and just work and understand and
actually appreciate the fact that I'm working for a great club and giving my all.
Obviously you mentioned Derby and Chelsea, they're obviously challenging at the top end
of the league in both cases. I just wondered whether you can assure fans about your appetite
for what is a relegation battle on the face of it at the minute?
Well I can assure fans that I'll give absolutely everything. I think
you can say about Chelsea I had some very good times there but I certainly
as a player had some difficult times. I played before I went to Chelsea at West Ham.
I moved around as I got older. I managed at Derby County where the championship as everyone
says is a real marathon through the year and you can have good periods and bad periods.
So I don't concern myself. I don't get concerned about what position it is in the table. I just
look at literally what's in front of me and of course you're aware of it but we will be defined
this season and the next 18 games by the work and the focus we put in on the training ground
and by how we can be united between players, club and fans because the fans are such a huge
input here into performance, particularly at Goodison. I felt it on the reverse of that.
So I'll try and bring all that together and that's all I have to think about now.
Welcome back. How are you Moose?
I'm very well. I thought I'd never see you in a day. I thought you were taking far too long
in getting back into football. So is this the ideal job you've been waiting for?
I missed you Moose.
I missed you too Frank. Is this the ideal job you've been waiting for then?
No. In terms of I haven't been waiting for an ideal job, I've been not working. Time for reflection
and people wanted to talk about what is the ideal job. There isn't one in football. It's something
that has to feel right on both sides. So I was never in a position where I was hanging out
waiting but the moments, from the first moments I started speaking with Everton and understood
the ambition and as I said before with the owner and the chairman and a real awareness of the size
of the club, it was something that for me was a hugely exciting challenge. So it was pretty clear
in those terms Moose but I haven't been sitting around waiting for anything particularly in the
last year. I've actually been enjoying a little bit of family time and focusing on how I can,
where I wanted to go when the right opportunity came.
Obviously, just two more questions. Obviously it's very different to Chelsea
but why have Everton underachieved this season? I mean why, from what you've
watched from an outsider's point of view, what have you got to put right straight away?
Well I mentioned it before Moose and I've been in this situation before many a time and to
different degrees but sometimes when you lose games or you're having a bad period of form it
can affect components of the players. So my job instantly is to affect that in terms of to bring
a real positive atmosphere, positive words, positive messaging and I have seen things within
the way the team are playing that practically I feel they can do better. Every manager will
have a different view of how they want to play. My job now is to get as quickly as I can to the
point where you can see the imprint I have on this team. In three days I think we've worked very well
but that work has to continue every day. Finally, Dele Alli. One, is it a gamble taking him on and
secondly, he's kind of been written off in the last two years. Are you, because you are world
class in the position and you know exactly what he has to do to succeed, are you the ideal person
to put him back where he was four years ago at the World Cup in Russia?
I don't want to give too many major headlines to this because it's easy to be over the top about
that side of it. What I see and I watched Dele come through, fantastic player and maybe he's
had difficult times. I wouldn't make no bones about that nor would he but there can be so
many reasons for that. My job now is to start with a fresh slate with him, to have him in an
environment that suits him and supports him but also to push him and to extract that player that
we just know is there. All the attributes, all the talent, all the technique, everything is still
there. Sometimes I think we're much more aware now in the modern day of how there are many factors
that can affect in life, in sport, how happy you are doing your job or why it might not work in
the right way. So I just have to find the right environment for Dele and the best thing for me,
and it's hard when he's such a big name and such a top player, is to do it quietly but our job now
is just to get to work and then just allow him to express his talent. I'm very excited to have him,
I'm very excited to have Donny, they are fantastic players. They come to the squad and hopefully give
us a lift and again the job now is just to work with them.
Thanks very much Ian, we'll go to Mike Hughes at Radio Merseyside please.
Hi Frank, I know you've touched on it previously but it is in some ways uncharted territory for
you managerially wise, taking over a team that's in such a poor run of current form, I think it's
one win in 14 and a league position as parlous as this, so how much of a different challenge
does it represent for you? Yeah I think that the challenge is different, the main challenge I feel
is that the two jobs I've had as a manager, I've had a pre-season and gone in and you have a period
of time to build through a season, this is different but I'm very aware of that so I have
to prioritise what my message is, what my work is to get through to the players and also put some
perspective on the fact that there's 18 games to play for, half a season, so of course nobody
would be happy with the run that we've been on in terms of points over the first half of the season
but I have to also bring in an element of calm to the players and to the club and also an element
of looking at ourselves and saying that there's a huge amount of talent, if I didn't believe in
that, if I didn't think I was the man to come and bring that out and harness it then I wouldn't be
here so I'm not concerned about that, I just want to come and make sure that I get to work very
quickly and the players respond to that quickly and then I believe once we do that we can go in
the right direction. The signings of Donny van der Beek and Dele Alli will hopefully give both
players individual a lease of life which will obviously benefit the team, with Dele Alli in
particular can you see something of you in your sort of prime, in Dele Alli in his prime with the
late runs into the box, the ability to run him behind? Yeah I think we're different, I think it's an easy
comparison because of you know goal scoring midfield player but I think in terms of our
position on the pitch I think I've probably started a bit deeper whereas Dele I feel sometimes
from a slightly higher position can be more effective particularly in his early Tottenham
years when he played just off of Harry Kane but I do think also he is a versatile player and that
he can get involved in link-up play and he can arrive from deeper areas so I'm very interested
to work closely with him and we've already spoken about this to see just how we can bring out all
those talents that he has but yeah it's nice for me on a personal note as a coach to
to work with someone that occupies similar areas of the field that has similar instincts to want
to get forward so yeah I'll try and improve those individually but more importantly get them into
the team in the right way to bring us balance. Winning against Brentford on Saturday will get
you into round five of the FA Cup that in itself is important but it's worth so much more by way
of what it could give you as a you and the team as towards a springboard new momentum and then
it's upward and it's a different thing again isn't it? Well yeah we hope so and I don't want
to make too many drastic statements about the Brentford game or the Newcastle game because
we have to work and as I said we have 18 league games but clearly absolutely I mean I've
been very impressed with the players and the lift I sense in the last few days in training
of coming in and working with them and the next step from that is definitely results and what
could be better hopefully than Goodison and the atmosphere that I'm sure we'll get on Saturday
and the opportunity to get into the next round of a cup that the the club has a glorious history of
I know not as recent as we'd like but with the talent we have in the squad we want to go as far
as we can in this cup and then we want to be able to carry on that momentum so yes it's a big game
for us in that sense. What sort of challenge are you facing in your first game against Brentford?
Challenge we're a very good team I think everyone who's watching the Premier League this year can
see that it's a very well constructed team big talent in the team a great organisation and style
of play which and the philosophy that goes right throughout the club and the manager harnesses
brilliantly from the outside so it'll be a very tough match and we have to be our absolute best
we you know we'll prepare have in the situation when we must focus on ourselves understand
Brentford are a very good team but we must focus on ourselves because we're also very good team.
And just in terms of the basic general team news how is the squad looking for
this weekend have you got any fitness concerns at all? No I mean Dominic Calvert-Lewin picked up a
small knock in the in the last game so he won't be available for this weekend with Dominic and
we know Decoray out, Tabian Delph is out unfortunately which will be slightly longer
than that but with Dominic we hope he can be back and outside and over the next days and ready for
the games coming up but other than that we are we are pretty good and yeah I'm happy with where
we're at we obviously have some players at a cup side also so I'm aware of where the squad is.
Thank you we'll just take one more in the open section from Jim Conlon please.
Hi Frank great talking to you again Frank. Frank on the acquisitions there of Donnie
and Dele on the final day was that maybe when you looked at your team and you saw Decoray
and Alan as your deep line play makers that you wanted Donnie in terms of that attacking element
and was really the acquisition of Dele maybe to purchase what Everton lost when James Rodriguez
left the club in terms of that creativity that flair? I didn't think of direct replacements but
you know I think it was an area of the pitch where we felt of course as you mentioned Decoray
is injured hopefully not for too long but I think in terms of the style and how maybe we want to
move the team to play maybe in a slightly different way a player like Donnie is someone who
can link play can receive the ball in all areas has the confidence and intelligence to receive
and play and move the ball and I think it's a slightly different profile of player to maybe
what we have that's slightly also versatile in midfield and Dele yeah like I've spoken about
Dele before he also has his own versatile nature but yeah we highlight it as a as an area where
we have some injuries we want uplift obviously very very quickly but they're also players and
particularly Dele because he's a permanent that we see are big players for the future the club and
can help performance so yeah we we had a clear idea why we booked them both in and we hope that
they add a lot in that middle of the park area okay thanks everyone that's the end of
the open section of today's press conference we'll now move on to the newspapers and then
