Dana White: Joining the Board at Meta, the Bryce Mitchell Controversy, and His Friendship With Trump

People love slapping. They love slapping. Yes. Are you shocked? No, I'm not shocked. Cause I have this sort of gut thing I have. And when I first started watching it, what's crazy is two nights ago, we did the event here and the guy who won the world title was the guy that got me into it. When I started watching this stuff a few years ago, this guy named dumpling out of Siberia, Russia. Okay. Um, I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding you. When we first paid him, he, I think he wanted 25,003 goats. Did you come up with a male or female goats? Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know the answer to that question, but he got 25,003 goats. Um, that was the first, the first, yeah. Dumpling from Siberia. The guy who got me into this became the world champion here in Saudi Arabia. I think it seems more painful than getting punched. I don't know about that. When you, what you're going to watch tonight, listen, you take a minimum of three slaps and slap. Yeah. You're going to see shins to the face, elbows, slams. Yeah. You slap me all day. I shinned to the faces. No, you're right. Yeah. Or an elbow. I saw you two weeks ago on stage at the inauguration. What was that like? It was awesome. Obviously, you know, like me, you have a great relationship with this guy and see him, um, to be this far away when he was taking his oath. How cool was that? I mean, it was, it was awesome. So I think you've, I think you've known him better than almost, almost anyone around him for longer. He and I are very close. I know. And it had been for a long time. And that became pretty obvious late in the campaign when, even though you're not political, you wound up kind of associated with Trump because you know him so well, do you think he's changed in the last, since July when he got shot? Do you notice a change? For the better. Yeah. How? Yeah. I think that, listen, at the end of the day, as resilient and as tough as this guy is, um, you know, when you almost get assassinated the way that he was, I think it messes with you a little bit. And the thing about him is I talked to him, I was flying to Italy when he was shot at and I called him as soon as I landed and he had just got home from the hospital and he seemed unfazed, which is, it's just not even, it's not humanly possible, but he did. But then after, after that, he flew the next day to the RNC in Milwaukee and literally never, never rested, never took a break, never stayed out of the limelight after almost getting shot. And I don't know, I just felt like it for him, it affected him. But he made a complete recovery from that thing. He did. I talked to him also that night and he seemed totally unaffected, but how could you be totally unaffected? Do you think there were long-term consequences, good consequences? I mean, he went on to be more successful than he's ever been, right? Just, it's just a testament to his toughness, his resilience, his grittiness. And, uh, I think this is what I truly believe. I think that to his core, he believes that God spared him to, to, to run this country for the next four years. And I think that had a lot to do with his mentality, um, coming out of that, you know, assassination attempt. Cause he does seem calmer. He certainly seems more decisive and in command. I mean, that's just from watching it. Brilliant. I'm Tucker. I went to, to Mar-a-Lago to be with him election night. He hadn't slept in like 72 hours. Then he wins the election. I jumped on a plane. I flew to, I flew to, um, Las Vegas and picked up my wife. And then I flew to Hawaii and the guy's calling me the next, I mean, the guy doesn't sleep, he just keeps going and going and going and you know, the rallies that he was doing leading up to the election night and, um, I left election night, I jumped on the plane at four in the morning, he was still up when I left at four in the morning. Um, and I, I literally, I don't, I don't know if the guy slept since then. It's, it's unbelievable. All of that is totally real. And on a diet that you would not like recommend to any person. Never seen him still never seen him drink water. And you know, I, I, I've been with him a lot since the election still haven't seen him drink water. He doesn't, it's just, he's, he's, he's, what do you think that do you have any guesses? I mean, you're in the business of like getting maximum performance out of body and mind and spirit, right? And he's doing the opposite of everything you'd recommend, but you know, running the world. Yeah. Do you have any guesses as to how that happens? I don't know. I just, it's unlike any human that I've ever met, you know? And, uh, I say it all the time. I've, I've never seen anybody that, that operates the way that this man does. And, and it's such a, and you know what, what was, what was badass? Um, the, um, press conference that he had the other day, right. Um, when, when the helicopter crashed into the plane, yeah. Room was packed. He's calling off questions. People are jumping over each other. Their hands are thrown up. When have you seen that kind of energy in the white house, especially, you know, within the last, however many years, you know, you had a guy who couldn't talk publicly, you had a vice president who couldn't speak publicly. Um, you know, I know, I know the, the girl who was the, um, in the last administration that, you know, the secretary of, you know, whatever the hell she was that goes out and does the press conferences, she's taking a lot of heat. But could you imagine having that job during the Biden administration? No, it had to be absolutely brutal, horrified, right? The girl's got to go out and lie pretty much every day. Any type of question that made sense. She was just shut it down and walk out and leave. I mean, that had to be the worst job in America. There couldn't be a worse job. The worst job you could do at the worst job with what she had to work with. I actually feel bad for that woman. Cut that woman some slack, please. I mean, imagine that's your job that you have to go out during that administration and face the media every day, but anyway, that's besides the point. That was incredible. The last press conference, when he was out there, it was like people were climbing over each other and he gets right in there, fires away and answers questions. And, you know, he's incredible. There's, there's, there's nothing like this guy. What? I mean, it seems how much he's done. Yeah. Short amount of time that he's been there. So where's the opposition to him? It seems like all of a sudden, you know, we spent eight years hearing that, you know, he's evil tyrant. Who's going to suspend the constitution and enslave the nation. And then he wins and you don't, there's like kind of no opposition. What happened? Like, do you know any liberals still? Well, you know, it's funny, you know, I'm one of these guys and you and I've had this conversation before. I don't judge anybody by their politics. And I follow like CNN and MSNBC and all these other, and cause I like to hear everybody, MSNBC, I don't even know how they're still on the air. They are the nuttiest. I had to unfollow for me to do that. It's like, I love hearing everybody's opinion. They are nuts. It's like, I can't even listen to them. They're so it's almost like a comic strip. Like it's a, it's a cartoon that network it's, it's like a cartoon. It's so bad. It's unbelievable. And, and, and, and it's the whole, if Trump says it's blue, they say it's black. If it's, you know, it's just, it's, it's so bad, but yeah, no. Anyone by a landslide, anyone in your personal life? No. Do you feel like there's been a change? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. There's not one person that I know that is a hardcore liberal and they're out there arguing about anything anymore. It's it's, it's dead. It's all gone. Actually the exact opposite of the people that I know that were very liberal. They're not very right, but they're definitely not very left. I know. Right. And everyone seems to have accepted free speech as the status quo now. Like you think so you've been sticking with that for, well, through the middle of all of this famously, but now people are like, yeah, okay. You know, I disagree, but you get to say what you think. Yeah. No, does it feel that way? Yeah. It needs to be that way. You can never let that go. You let that go. And we're all in big trouble, man. So, but I feel like, I also felt like after the election, there was a sigh of relief and not just in the United States, but all over the world here and other countries that we go to, it's just, everybody is celebrating the fact that Trump won the election on both sides of the conflict. I agree. In Israel and the Arab countries, both people were happy. I agree. At the power slap event the other night, you know, their fans here. And I was talking to people and taking pictures and stuff. And people were saying to me, you have to tell Trump to stop this war. Trump has to stop this war. You know what I mean? They're looking at the American president to help what's going on over here. And I hope he will. And in Russia and Ukraine, I think the Russians and the Ukrainians, maybe not Zelensky, but I think most Ukrainians, I've never met a Ukrainian that's not for Trump. I've never met a Russian that's not for Trump. I mean, it's just, it's just interesting. Could not agree with you more. Because they think that, I mean, you've got fighters from all over the world. Yep. And the farther away they are from the United States, the more they are for Trump. Well, did you ever notice that every time I have Trump at a, at a UFC event, every fighter walks over to him and, you know, pays respect to him and all the fighters love him from all over the world. And, uh, yeah, it's, it's been, it's been a huge sigh of relief since the election. Anyone who's knowledgeable about physical health would tell you that sleep is absolutely essential. And here's a good way to get a better sleep. It's called cozy earth. We use them. They make bamboo sheets. That sounds a little bit weird. Try it. It's one of those things that's so weird. It's likely to be great. And in fact, it is great. They are soft, smooth, breathable. After a long day, slipping into cozy earth bamboo sheets is a deep pleasure, but it's not all that they sell. 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I think what you saw, not just Zuckerberg, I think you see all the guys from Silicon Valley now that are, you know, um, having dinner with Trump showing up at the, uh, inauguration and creating a relationship with him. I feel like a lot of these people were, um, during the, the woke nutty madness that we went through, you know, I guess I would call it during the COVID era. Um, and a little before that, um, are also relieved that it's over. And I think a lot of people, there was a very few people, there was a handful of people that actually stood up against this and, and, and weren't afraid, uh, to face, I don't know, whatever we might've faced or in that thing, a lot of people got canceled. A lot of bad things happened to a lot of good people during that, that, that time. And, uh, but there was a handful of people that stood up to it. And I think everybody's relieved that it's over. Are you concerned that at your next meetup meta meeting, you'll lock eyes with Mark Zuckerberg and he will steal your soul? Do you not get that alien vibe at all? I actually like Mark. No, listen, if I felt that way about Zuckerberg, I would have never been on the board. I would have never. So my, my, my head of PR actually hit me up one day and says, uh, Hey, Mark Zuckerberg is looking for your number. Can I give it to him? And I said, yeah, of course. So he called me and he said, uh, would you mind coming up to my place in Tahoe and having dinner? And I said, uh, what's this place in Tahoe? Like, I'll tell you. So I don't know Mark Zuckerberg, never talked to him, saw the movie. Uh, you know, that that's as much as I knew about Mark Zuckerberg. So I walk into his living room and have this house and they put me in the living room to wait. And he's got this American flag on the wall with like 13 stars on it or whatever. You know what I mean? And I'm like, I'll do a good start in the back. He's got a house right on the Lake, the biggest American flag you've ever seen in your life, ripping in the wind in the backyard. Really? A hundred percent, a hundred percent. Then he comes in, we sit down, we have dinner. And we probably talked for four hours. And, uh, I walked away from that first meeting liking Mark and, uh, we started to create a relationship from there. We talked and you know, he's a UFC fan and we became friends. Then the whole Elon versus Mark Zuckerberg fight thing that was, that was going on at that time, that was real. And I was in the middle of it and I had a blast doing the negotiations with that talking to Elon for an hour every night, talking to Mark an hour every night. And then I was literally, what were the negotiations about, about the fight, where it would be, what weight classes, this, that, what could you do? What couldn't you do? And I was literally doing, uh, conference calls with, uh, the government in Italy to do this thing in the Colosseum in Rome. And you know, for the right number, the Colosseum was going to let us do that fight there. And then eventually it, you know, it started to fall apart. Um, but while it lasted, it was fun. And through that Mark and I became even closer. And then, uh, I flew from Italy to, um, to the RNC. I spoke at the RNC and I flew back to Italy, my vacation with my family. And, uh, I got a text from Mark that said, Hey, can you talk for a minute? Called him back and he said, um, this is what he said to me. Um, I think you're a great businessman. You always seem to be on the right side of everything. And, uh, my company needs a backbone. I would be honored if you would sit on the board for Metta. And I, this was right after your RNC speech, right after, as soon as I landed back in Italy. He gave $350 million to Joe Biden's campaign in 2020. That's kind of wild that he he's watching you at the RNC and it's like, I like what you have to say. I want you on the Metta board. Like, what do you make of that? I don't know. That's interesting. You got to admit. Yeah. But that's how it all went down. That's that's the, the, the, the beginning up until today of my relationship with Mark and, and, uh, you know, I know a lot of people think my, my, my sister, my sister is as far, right? My sister's like you as far, right. Did you could possibly get during the COVID era? She is a good person. You will. You matter. You and her, you and her headed off in New York. Yeah. You couldn't get you to a part in New York, but my, my, uh, my sister during the COVID area, I'd have to say, Kelly, stop texting me. I stop. Okay. The world, the world is not ending. So. My sister had her, you know, her feelings about Zuckerberg and a lot of other people that are far, right. But I'm, I'm just telling you my relationship is not far, right. Kelly Kelly's Kelly's as far, right. As you are. So what does she think about you going in the Metta board? She, you know, she, she didn't love it. And, uh, you know, but I said, uh, listen, Mark Zuckerberg isn't, isn't. What everybody thinks he is not as bad as, as everybody thinks he is. Well, I do think it was, I mean, we're just watching it from afar, not talking to you about it. But I thought the one thing that everyone knows about you is you're opposed to censorship. You're clearly, I mean, again, this week you had, you came out and you said one of your fighters had something you thought was disgusting and you hated, but you're not firing him. Like you've kind of taken a stand against censorship very publicly again, and again, and again, you know, Facebook is known for censorship. So probably a good thing. They're putting you on the board, like what's going to happen when you're sitting in a meeting, like we need to censor stuff we disagree with. I think that's why I'm there. I'm not there for my, my technical capabilities. I can promise you that. And I, uh, you know, my theories on AI are and how we should, uh, you know, uh, I, I, I know my role there and, uh, I've already been, I've already been in it. I mean, we've already had some situations and some things that we've dealt with. My first board meeting actually in person, you know, up in, up in Silicon Valley is, uh, a week after I fly from here to Sydney, we have a fight next Saturday, then I fly home and then like a week later is my first board meeting where we're not on zoom. So, um, yeah, I'm, I'm not, um, I know what my role is and I, I I'm the type of I will speak at this thing when I can add value. And when I think I, um, you know, I got a lot to learn, never been on a board before, run, run, run a company, big company now that deals in, you know, hundreds of millions to billions of dollars. And, um, a lot of the things that I do are by, I guess I would just say gut and, and how I think we should handle it. You know, it's not like, um, again, my head of PR PR, she's brilliant and, and I respect her very much, but it's not like the other night when we, um, I found out what Bryce Mitchell had said. It's not like we got a bunch of lawyers on the phone and we didn't, you know, I did, I got on Google and I started looking up world war II and, you know, remind Bryce Mitchell on what a piece of shit Hitler was. Okay. And, and why he's not a good guy and why you wouldn't want to go fishing with him. And, and, and that was it. Um, you know, I saw people saying, oh, he read a can't, I don't ever read canned statements. Nobody writes anything for me. And lawyers are never involved when I go out and speak. Um, whatever I'm writing down stats from world war II. Uh, you know, I wrote them down so I w I wouldn't forget. Uh, but nobody writes anything for me. Everything is exactly how I feel about it. Whether you like it or not. I don't care. I don't care if you like it. I don't care if you don't like it. This is my company and I'll run it the way I want to. Right. So when you say, you know, your role at Facebook and you say, Zuckerberg said to you, I need spine on my board. Do you feel like your role is to oppose censorship at Facebook? I know. I don't think that my role is to oppose censorship. I think that there's going to be decisions that need to be made on the fly. It's already happened. I mean, I've already been involved in, in, in a few things already. Um, in just a short time that I've been there and I give my opinion on what I think should be done and how it should be handled, everybody that I've met on the, on, on the board already. They're, they're all actually really good people and smart people. And we've all had really good interaction so far. So I'm actually really, I'm really liking it. It's going to be my first board meeting. It's a two day thing. I don't know how long we're going to sit in there in the, in the, in these board meetings, but, um, that'll be different and new for me, a new experience for me, but my interaction with all the other board members has been really, really good so far. So I'm looking forward to it. And I think that when I can add value, I will speak up and, and, and at the end of the day, Mark Zuckerberg runs meta and he'll make the final decisions. I think, uh, it's brilliant in the way that he brings people in that he likes and respects and wants to hear from, and everybody gives their opinion. And at the end of the day, Mark Zuckerberg makes the decisions. So the whole point of market capitalism is consumer choice. You have a choice between products and services and the competition between companies makes the goods and services better. That's the core idea. 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Do you think that we're at peak openness right now for the internet? It feels like people have more freedom to say what they really think than I've ever seen. Can that last? Well, I think that's a good question. You know, one of the things that I've learned in my short time at meta is the far right. Think they're being suppressed. The far left think that, uh, it's too dangerous and not being policed enough. And the only place where there is true free speech is in America and the rest of the world extorts them every day. That's what I've learned in my shorts. Then what do you mean extorts them? So if you are in some country that has whatever country that has, uh, you know, the Facebook or Instagram or whatever it is, and something gets posted and stays up that they don't like, they'll find them. Um, you know, all kinds of crazy and to shut them down. That's constant, constant daily. Yeah. Well, it has political effect. I mean, yeah, there's no doubt those companies, they can bring down governments, very powerful and probably have unwittingly or not. They are. So when you think about, um, Facebook, Instagram, X, um, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, this is the new media. This is, these are the Fox, the ABCs, the NBCs, you know, of the future. This, this is like owning, um, a major network or the New York Times or, you know, more, more, more powerful than that. I agree. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's like television plus newspapers because it has the emotional resonance and the full penetration, like everywhere in the world, people are looking at this stuff. So, and it's immediate. As soon as something comes out, the whole world knows instantly. Right. So it's not surprising that country X every other country, basically, other than the United States is going to be pushing meta and Google and Elon at X to, you know, tailor this or that according to their demands. But the United States is based on the idea that citizens get to say what they think period. It's the first point in the bill of rights. So what matters is they stay firm here. And do you think they will? That's a good question. Um, I think there will for the next four years, I think there will for the next four years. I think you see them all except for Elon. I mean, let's be honest. Elon was a superhero through this whole, that's for sure. Yeah. You know what I mean? Where are we right now without Elon Musk? It's what he did was incredible. And why do you think he did it? Because I think he's smart and I think he's, uh, I think that, uh, something about him is fearless. The fact that he would go in and spend the kind of money that he did to, uh, to buy that thing basically just to find out what went on. I mean, he is literally a superhero in this country right now, and as far as I'm concerned. And, um, I think what he did also made a lot of people in that field, I guess I'd say braver and say, you know what, this, we should follow his lead. And, um, then obviously having this administration, there's nothing worse than when the government comes after you. When, when, when we were, when the Obama administration was in, they came after us for being a monopoly. So we bought this company that was bankrupt, turning it around, creating jobs and all these other things. And we got the government. We had to, we had to spend like eight or $9 million at that time to defend ourself against a monopoly. We sued from the government. Meanwhile, Google actually is a monopoly. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of monopolies. There are a lot of monopolies. Exactly. You know? Um, but yeah, so you know, when I, whenever you have the government coming after you, it's, it's, it's not fun. So what'd you tell your, I'm sorry, I missed. What'd you tell your sister? She complains from the far, right. What was that when you said your sister complained about you joining the board? You, I forgot to ask you how you responded to her. What'd you say to her? Yeah, well, I told her the same thing that I just told you about how I felt about Mark and, and, uh, let me ask you a question. Would you rather not have Meta and Mark Zuckerberg and everybody on, on, on our side? I mean, and by, by our side, I'd rather have you influencing them. I think that's good by our side. I mean, the side of common sense. I agree. I totally agree. The side of common sense. You want the Zuckerbergs of the world and the Googles and the apples and, you know, the Elon Musk, you want as many allies on the side of common sense as possible. You don't want to distance yourself from these guys. You want to embrace them and, and, and, and try to, uh, try to figure out how to, how to bring everybody into the common sense world, right? I mean, isn't that what we all want? Why, why fight and battle and say, I would never sit on the board of, of, of Meta or whatever. If, if he thinks that I can add any value, why would I not do it? And I'm very into social media and I think it's the future. And obviously AI is too. And I get to get inside and, and, and see and learn the future of this thing and have, and have a hand and how it all plays out, why would I not want to do that? I think that's fair. So what, I mean, you say that for the next four years, social media in this country, following the lead of Elon is likely to be open and free and less crazy, more common sense oriented, less woke, et cetera. What about the other professional sports leagues like NFL, NBA, do they swing back in to the center of America or they continue on this self-destructive path? I don't know. That's a good question. Uh, that's one I can't answer. I, I, what I do is I run mine the way I think it should. And again, I, I run it with what I call common sense. I, that's worked for you. So why wouldn't they try that? Well, I mean, it's hard to say that the NFL is screwing up. I mean, the, the NFL is as powerful as powerful could be the NBA. Ratings are dropping, you know, they're having their issues. Um, but, uh, yeah, it's hard to mess with the NFL, the NFL. You can not like the new kickoff thing. You can, you can like some things they don't do, but the NFL absolutely kills it. It's, it's the most powerful. What do you think is going on with the NBA? Where are their ratings down? I just think the, I'm an NBA fan. I just went to the Laker Celtics game a couple of weeks ago and I'll be at another Celtics game. And I just think that the NBA has gotten soft and everybody sees you. In what sense? We were just talking about this at dinner tonight. I mean, if you, if you look at the NBA, when we grew up, yeah. So I'm a, I'm a lifelong diehard Celtics fan in New England. But when, when people ask me about, um, idols and heroes and all these kinds of stuff, so I've had people who've had influence on me like Bruce Lee and Mike Tyson and, and, and lots of other people growing up. But Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan to me is I've never met Michael Jordan. And I don't want to meet Michael Jordan. I don't ever want to meet him. I, I, I, I am the biggest Michael Jordan fan ever of his mentality. The way that he, I like killers, man. And Michael Jordan was a killer and the stuff that his teammates say about him that everybody says, I love, love it. Um, and, and the NBA just isn't like that. You haven't seen that since Kobe, you know, it just, it just doesn't have that. When you go back and think of the, the, the NBA from the eighties and nineties and all the different stars that you could remember from back then. And how, um, it was just a tougher game that, you know what I mean? It was, it was a lot tougher and, uh, so many, uh, fouls and flopping and all the stuff that happens today, isn't what the NBA used to be and what made the NBA. You think they got too rich? It happens. Happens. My business too. You get too rich and, and, and things change, but I wouldn't say that. Yeah. Maybe you're right. Yeah. Money screws up a lot of things. Maybe money did, but I mean, the game changed and society changed and they did become come richer. I don't know. That's a, that's a tough one to. Will that happen to you? We have soft fighters. Do you think at some point? Um, listen, everybody gets, everybody changes when you, when you make a lot of money, you know, when, when, no matter what walk off fighters lose immediately, no matter what walk of life you're in, once you get to a certain level of success, you have to be a certain type of person to stay hungry and get out and fight every day. When we sold in 2016, 99% of the people said that I was going to retire. And walk away. I'm not wired like that. I love Michael Jordan. Let me tell you what you think I'm going to know. I'm that's the way that I'm wired too. I'm still out building, you know, new brands and doing shit that I don't need to be doing, but I do it because I love it. Um, but yeah, I could see, you know, you know, how many people, you know, in a sale like mine in 2016 and just, you never see that guy again, they just. They're done. You know, and what happens to them? I don't know. I think you just go hang out. I don't know what the hell you do. I don't know what people like that do. No, but that is actually kind of a big question since there are an awful lot of people in our country, you know, who, because there's so much money floating around, it was kind of just kind of checked out. They got too rich. Like, do you ever check up on them and see what happened to them? No, I never have. It'd be interesting though. You should, you should, you should do a show on people who, who made it big and, and, uh, you know, where are they now? What are they doing? What do you do every day? They're suffering. Yeah. Gotta be right. Yeah. Well, well, I mean, once the fight is gone, life is gone. I will never retire ever. I will keep dogging this out until the day I drop dead. Really? I love it. Yeah. A hundred percent. It'd be like 80 years old ringside. Hopefully, hopefully you look at, I hate him. He's an asshole, but, uh, Bob Arum. Yeah. Boxing promoter. Yeah. 94 years old. Right. I hate him. This guy's the biggest douchebag of all time, but I'm, I'm had. We say you're not for him. You're sorry. He's a douchebag. Uh, so I am at the ACEs WNBA game, right? Bob Arum is 94 years old, 94. It's nine o'clock at night. He's sitting over there. Uh, courtside. I'm like, Holy shit. Bob Arum is here. This is crazy. This guy's 94 years old. Oh, I didn't. He wouldn't have seen it anyway, but he's sitting over there. It's eight 30. I shit. You're not two days later. I'm watching a fight. Bob Arum is in Saudi Arabia. Ringside at a boxing event. Two days later, he's in London at a press conference. He's 94 years old. I hate him, but you got to respect it. Right? How do you not respect that? No, but you said I, I would have, but then you said he was at a WNBA game. And that kind of record, were you, were you watching that on TV? Cause you weren't. No, I, I got, I got courtside seats at the Las Vegas aces. Absolutely. Kelsey plum is one of my good friends. And I go there and I support her as much as possible. Not at all. No way. Love it. I'm an NBA fan. I'm an NBA WNBA. Yeah, I'm in. I'm in. Dan White. Thank you. Pleasure. Thanks for having me. You too. So it turns out that YouTube is suppressing this show on one level. That's not surprising. That's what they do. 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