The halfway mark of the 2025 legislative session | S02 EP06

Washington State House Republicans
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Mar 11, 2025
Rep. Peter Abbarno, R-Centralia, catches up with 16th District Rep. Mark Klicker, R-Walla Walla, for a broad conversation that covers agriculture, local government, sidewalk cafes, cracking down on littering, and other issues. March 6 was the halfway mark of the 105-day legislative session.
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fix Washington now from the state
capital here's Hannah Scott welcome to
another edition of the fix Washington
podcast I'm your host this week Peter
robno state representative in the 20th
legislative district and the house
Republican caucus chair my special guest
this week is state
representative Mark clicker how are you
Mark well great Peter it's great to be
with you all right so tell uh all our
fix Washington podcast viewers a little
bit about who you are and your District
well I come from Walla Wala Washington
and I am serve the 16th District and I
come from a multi-generational family
and that's kind of where I come from
it's a it's a farm family and uh we go
way back yeah so you're come from a
whole long line of farmers we do and uh
we're gener we're a diversified farm and
uh uh everything from mountains to down
in the wawah valley and and uh we spend
a lot of our time working in the
mountains and and and down in the the
Valley Farm so farming is U vast right
it's a big farming is a big word in
reality um so what do you farm is it
crops is it do do you harvest do you
have animals what what kind of farming
do you do right very Diversified and
over the years as as the younger
Generations have grown up some of the
Farms we've sold off but uh everything
from wheat cattle strawberries Timber
Alfalfa uh just cherries I used to raise
cherries myself and so we uh very
Diversified both dry land and irrigated
properties so what kind of cherries are
Rainer cherries what what bing cherries
what kind yeah our cherries were the the
earliest in the state for a number of
years we had a variety called Chalan uh
they're just like a bing uh they
probably aren't as flavorful as as the
Bing is but we also raised uh reers as
pollinators but uh these cherries were
were early because the key to it is is
trying to get an early Harvest right
after the California to to you know take
advantage of the market and then we also
had some Mountain cherries that were
actually Dryland Mountain cherries uh
way up high in the mountains and they
were at one time were the the latest
basically in the lower 48 so we took
advantage of both our early cherries and
our late cherries try to take advantage
of the price well I guarantee our fix
Washington podcast listeners uh did not
know that they were going to get a
cherry education today um so tell us a
little bit about what committees you
serve on I serve on local government as
ranking member okay and there's not very
many people on our our side there's uh
four on the majority and three uh that
serve on our side and I serve uh as the
ranking member I'm also on the
environment energy uh committee serve on
the same one as you do and uh I serve as
a vice ranking member and then I serve
on the transportation committee and uh
out of my district uh there there's the
surrounding diff districts around where
I live out of wallwall in the Tri Cities
uh there are a number of districts and I
am the only one within all those
districts that serve on Transportation
so that's really critical that I'm in
those uh in on that committee well talk
a little bit about some of your other
committees because transportation is a
very important fiscal committee um but I
think most of our fix washingon
podcasters are uh know what
transportation is right and what it
covers uh talk about some of your other
uh your other committees and what issues
you deal with in those and so the local
government committee is is really a very
important one it's actually one I wanted
to be on uh even though I've never
served in local government uh I go way
back with the growth management act uh
actually from the Inception of the
growth management act and uh that was a
law that was passed that uh really
forced different counties to uh opt in
and uh even though if they didn't want
to they if they didn't opt in then they
wouldn't be able to get any type of
State help from from from the state uh
then there have been different levels
that have been added on to the
bureaucracy of the growth management act
and uh I believe it's something that
needs to be fixed so I really wanted to
be a part of it knowing that we won't be
able to maybe get too much fixed but but
it's important to be on and then and the
energy environment committee uh that is
so crucial to what we're dealing with
primarily because my district we have
Hamford we have the hydroelectric dams
and uh energy is huge and as we're
trying to cut back and there's the
threat are trying to take out the dams
we need to make sure we protect at least
our district but the rest of the state
yeah so these committees really fit not
just you but really fit your community I
would I mean you're kind of fashioning
yourself as a local government Champion
with all these committees that you're on
absolutely it it really seems to fit my
wheelhouse maybe I don't know the
details of what how local government
operates but local government is so
important to the people that operate
within it and and outside of it and so
we have to help people and and help them
better understand uh what local
government can do and what they can't do
and so I'm I'm really a a I really
believe First in private property rights
then local government and then state
government then the federal government
in that in that order uh a lot of time
they times they work with you know
federal government comes first and then
uh hand things down to state government
then local government then private
property rights are kind of the last in
the in the in the food food chain and I
think it's really important we look at
it the other way because private
property rights are so important yeah
and so what are some of the things that
you want to talk tell your
constituents uh back in your District
back in Wala Wala about what you do here
like how what what is the if you had to
give them one thing that you do here uh
that is the most impactful what would
you tell them you know I love to build
Bridges and being in a minority party
which is we're we've we've lost some
members and so we're in a minority party
and so we're trying to help get
legislation across the line and and so
many times there's some controversial
bills uh or bills are really struggling
and I like to bring people together I
like to to put together meetings on both
sides the aisle which include also the
lobbyists that are involved that don't
like it that may hurt their either
organization or their businesses and uh
I I try to get the the person that's
introducing the bill that is sponsoring
the bill together with either the
lobbyist or other members that are
disagreeing with it and and try to find
a solution that's what I I I feel I do
best yeah so you're really the living
proof that uh even in the minority party
you can get things done here yeah it I I
think I kind of found my place being
able to do that uh I don't have I don't
put out introduce a lot of bills I do
any of the bills I do our bills have to
fit within a uh the parameters of what
the majority part part is going to you
know allow us to do so what I try to do
is work within those parameters
introduce bills that are going to fit
that we can pass and get get uh into law
right and so once the 105 day session is
over you go back to your District um
what are some of the things that you are
going to do when you get back to the
district well so what I'll do is I'll
have I'll have a town hall or two and
then I really try to pay attention to my
constituents I have meetings with them I
go and tour the different businesses and
different places that that uh need some
of our attention and to find out what is
it that that they need help on uh what
are some of the issues they're dealing
with with and it doesn't matter if it's
a local issue or if it's a federal issue
or Statewide issue I will go in work
with my constituents it doesn't matter
if they are liberal or conservative or
whatever they may be uh I'm there to
help that constituent and and it's
really fun because you build those
relationships right and before you get
back before the session's over in the
105 day session uh there's a lot of
policies that you've been advocating for
and against you want to name a couple of
those uh that people should know about
well there's some great uh bills that
are going out and people don't have
don't realize that a lot of the bills
that we pass in the legislature probably
well over
70% we all agree on them and and so we
get those bills out but then there are
the controversial bills and and a couple
of the bills that they have are one of
them is is this rent control and people
don't understand that they're putting a
cap on on on housing and it's never
worked uh in history it's never worked
within uh the United States and
different states are trying it or and
and a perfect example is what's happened
in Sweden uh it it really creates in the
long run unaffordable housing so that
really is tough there's a lot of people
that are in really dire need of of uh of
help on on their rents because they keep
going up and I understand I agree and we
have some solutions and we've introduced
those Solutions but but they aren't
being heard and so that that is probably
one of the primary uh issues that we're
working on right now and then there's
some other bills out there some of them
I've introduced that uh that are fund
bills that people are are uh going to
enjoy it's called a cafe bill that will
allow uh little little cafes or coffee
shops within neighborhoods and that
really uh contributes to the area along
the I5 Corridor and it's a real hit with
the people in the urban areas and so
those are those are good bills have a a
a litter bill out there that's going to
you know increase the infraction uh from
a level three down to a class uh up to a
class two that will put a little stiffer
penalties on on littering in the state
man there's littering going all over
where you across the the river lot
across the line and Oregon has a
$6,250 or 62
$6,250 fine and you drive along their
freeways and they're just totally CLE
clean you drive into our freeways and
you know the infractions uh $50 and
we're going to bring it up to maybe 125
we need it more but we'll start with
$125 yeah I mean you're I mean the bills
you're mentioning encapsulate everything
from the large bills rent control R
right where that will you know reduce
the amount of inventory can drive rents
up to your Cafe bill which is a really
cool bill and it's a smaller bill but
will create Revenue improve quality of
life folks in urban areas like that kind
of stuff um it's really important for
people I think to know that if they want
to learn more about any of these bills
and your views on them I mean I would go
to representative Mark clicker.com
that's the best way to learn about your
priorities but there's the bigger
looming issue of budgets so you know
there's a a lot out there talking about
the fact that we're in a budget crisis
despite Revenue being up I mean what do
you want to say to some of the fix
Washington podcast listeners about that
well we got a quick we got a quick
spending and the money that was provided
to us a few years ago from the federal
government from the covid crisis um we
just took that money and we went out to
buy the new Cadillacs and the new
airplanes and all the which I'm being a
little factious there but we were
putting into programs that that can't
carry the weight now where we're kind of
being brought back down to earth right
and so we have to quit spending uh
people cannot afford new taxes and
that's what's being uh considered as new
taxes we can't do that now getting back
uh I can I can throw something in I I
have one bill I introduce that has to do
with affordability and that is my um uh
housing affordable housing uh task force
cost drivers and it what it does is
brings people together throughout the
state that are experiencing hardships
and and have the information uh such as
your Builders and your reers and your
economists and Architects and utility
companies and L uh tenants and
landlords and and and people that are in
labor the unions and they're going to
come together and they're going to work
with all the information they bring and
they're we're going to develop a report
to find out what really is it that is
causing the high cost of housing it
doesn't matter if we're building housing
or we're we're creating uh rentals we
are trying to find what the root of the
problem is once we can do that then we
have a found
to build on and start introducing real
legislation that will bring down the
cost of housing well it sounds like
you're really trying to fix Washington
by solving uh these problems with real
solutions right absolutely absolutely
well Mark I want to thank you for coming
on the fix Wasington podcast if you want
to learn more about uh Mark clicker go
to representative Mark clicker.com if
you want to learn about the house
Republican priorities go to house
republicans. w.gov and if you want to
stop some of the bad bills that Mark
mentioned you can go to the top of house
republicans. w.gov and click on the stop
bad bills tab until next week this was
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