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0:00 The HIGH prevalence of body-image issues in the fitness space. 3:20 The extreme versions that are easy to spot. 8:00 The characteristics of this avatar. How to Break Free from Abusive Body Image Issues 11:54#1 - Take time off (from workouts, measuring, and weighing). 18:00#2 - Make it real by telling others. 20:56#3 - Stop weighing yourself and studying yourself in the mirror. 25:05#4 - Turn off social media or change the algorithm. 31:05#5 - Start back up with a VERY different goal. Questions: 33:16 How common are body image issues? 35:05 Does competition contribute to body image issues? 36:43 How can I help someone who is struggling with body image issues? Related Links/Products Mentioned Visit Legion Athletics for the exclusive offer for Mind Pump listeners! ** Code MINDPUMP for 20% off your first order (new customers) and double rewards points for existing customers. ** http://buylegion.com/mindpump
body image challenges extremely
prevalent in the modern world here's a
dirty secret it's even more prevalent in
the fitness and health industry it's
true trainers coaches gym managers and
gym fanatics huge percentage of them
struggle with this in today's episode
we're going to talk about how you can
break free from this abusive
relationship and make your workouts and
diet healthy again it's a good
conversation to have i think uh I think
Margaret um was helping somebody out in
the chat and brought this to our
attention as a single topic episode that
we haven't I don't think we've ever done
like a pure episode yeah we've talked we
we've mentioned this topic we've
obviously had a lot of live callers uh
where we've given some advice on it but
I don't think we've ever done an
organized episode uh where we kind of go
a deep dive on this the steps or the
actions to take if you're struggling
with this yeah no and I think that um
because it's it's way more common than
the average person thinks we see it a
lot in our space it's it it I think it's
dis it's disguised to the average person
in fact many times it's disguised as
health uh and uh we think that this
person is this uh just great
representation of what a healthy body
should look like when in reality uh this
person is uh got crippling obsession
with exercise and uh nutrition uh in in
a way that is unhealthy although it may
not look that way on social media it's
far more common than you think well even
if we back up a little bit I think uh
body image issues or distorted body
image is so prevalent in modern
societies that it's probably I mean I
would venture to say it's more rare to
not have something sure related to this
it's so prevalent and I'm going to call
some people out make people feel
uncomfortable and and by the way I think
there's a sliding scale right or you
could be way over here or you be way
over here right way over here are the
extreme forms that are easy to spot like
severe anorexia bulimia you know lots of
anabolic steroid abuse like that's way
over here but over here and somewhere in
the middle it's like you know women
wearing shoes that are so uncomfortable
they get blisters but now I got to put
them on cuz they they look good uh it's
you know uh plastic surgery that people
do it's the obsession with my appearance
or my image studying myself in the
mirror it's placing how I look higher uh
than things that should be higher than
it right it's it's making it a higher
priority than things that should be
prioritized above it um and it causes
lots and lots of different problems by
the way I'm speaking of from personal
experience this is a lifelong struggle
of mine um and people in the fitness
space in particular like I said in the
very beginning uh we're more towards the
extreme uh in fact it's rare to run into
a trainer or a coach or a gym owner or
manager that doesn't suffer from this or
doesn't struggle with this in one way
shape or the other it's very common in
fact it's often times why we enter into
the fitness space it's because it allows
us to obsess even more uh over this
thing in a work uh environment so it's
very very difficult so you know what
does this look like well there's extreme
versions I think that um are are easy to
spot but you know it's really it's when
your workouts and diet now you know I I
do want to say this um exercising and
eating right is great for you very good
for you one of the things that they both
provide when done properly is they
reduce stress a telltale sign that
you're in the wrong that the
relationship is going sour or south is
when they produce more stress than they
take away what does that look like you
can't miss a workout or nothing can mess
your workouts up you go on vacation and
it's like oh no I got to wake up and I
got to make it to the gym every day that
I'm at the hotel or you book a hotel and
the number one thing that one of the
number one things that helps you
determine where to stay is what's the
hotel gym look like um with diet it's
eating out causes so much stress for you
that you refuse to do it or you have to
go ahead of time and calculate things
and figure out what I'm going to eat or
you fast leading up to going out you
start to structure your diet around uh
something that's supposed to be
connecting between you and your partner
or your friends when it becomes a stress
this is a sign that this is a problem
that this is an issue and uh the the
studies on this are very interesting you
know overdoing exercise and over
obsessing over diet do do anything but
make you healthier they actually make
you less healthy um and again the data
shows us you actually reduce lifespan um
and longevity because uh of those
obsessions such an elusive problem
because it seems like you're you're
really just tackling healthy behaviors
and you're trying to take it all on at
once and um you know it's hard it's hard
to tell somebody too when they're on
this kind of journey of like you know
trying to self-improve and and trying to
physically um change things so that they
are in a healthy place and when they get
really obsessed and they get
hyperfocused on it and it can get away
from you just like anything else it's u
while pursuing these things it seems
like it's a very healthy way to to
tackle a lot of things but there has to
be that balance there has to be that
listening to your body and that feedback
uh and two like being able to uh allow
people to uh peer into what you're doing
and give you feedback and listening to
that feedback from your peers um a lot
of times we can get into this little
like isolated horse blinder situation
where we're just you know pedal to the
metal uh because I feel like I'm I'm
doing all the right things if you had to
put a percentage on it amount of the
percentage of people in the fitness
space not general pop what would you
what would you put on it that have this
to a degree or another oh god 90% 90 wow
that's 90 easy easy think about all the
trainers all the people you've ever
worked with
majority of them one way shape or
another you say initially deal with this
maybe even Yes i think some people uh
you know come out of it uh when they
stay in there long enough but especially
new people yeah that's why they get in
but I would say it's I would say it's 90
it's definitely a majority that's the
first conscious decision is to change
the way your body looks well that's the
big pull you know what also tend to
these people a lot of times uh this is
what saved them from another addiction
that's right and so uh it's really hard
to see this one as a bad one because
it's like oh I gave up cocaine for
exercise and fitness this is not bad
this is much better i had this sex
addiction or whatever the addiction was
many times that same person just learned
how to shift it over towards working out
and eating and it served them from a you
know strength muscle look and so they
don't even realize it so you think 90
okay so let's let's let's say it's
somewhere up there and I don't know if I
even disagree with you i I definitely
think I would definitely say it's the
majority
i definitely think it's more likely than
it is not uh likely now if we if we say
90% uh are that what percentage of those
people do you think are aware ooh that
they have this body image issue like
like would you say you if you said 90
and then I would turn back around and
say I bet you more than half of those if
not a higher percentage are not even
aware totally yeah they they still they
still believe that uh because it's also
their career you know because it's easy
way to excuse because oh this is what I
do you know I work in a gym this is my
life this is my life it's it's one of
the characteristics of this is that
you're doing this out of fear not out of
love in other words you're afraid of
being that fat person again right or
you're afraid of being that skinny
person or that drug addict or that Yeah
whatever you were you're afraid of that
this is why when you get someone we have
callers like this all the time right
they they lost 70 pounds and they their
calories are low they're overtraining
and they're so scared of reverse dieting
they're so scared of of reducing the
amount of exercise because what if I
become that that person again mhm the
other the other characteristic is you
think that your life is going to become
great once you get to whatever
impossible goal it is you're reaching
for if I could just get this buffed or
just get this shredded
then then be different it's going to be
different what's funny about this is by
the way again if you're a data person
although I'll tell you what if you're in
this logic doesn't really help it didn't
help me but if you look at the data on
this maybe this will kind of open you up
a little bit uh aside from getting
healthier so if you're poor health and
you get healthier dramatic improvements
to your life quality okay beyond that
uh it's very little contribution in
other words I had it explained to me by
do by Arthur Brooks once he said if you
had somebody who was already healthy but
let's say on a scale of one one to 10
they're a six in terms of attractiveness
okay they're a six and then they spend
all their time all their money all their
energy on going from a six to a nine
their overall happiness level would
wouldn't even register in in improvement
that's how that's how little of uh an
impact it has on your actual overall
happiness it would barely register going
from a six to a nine spending all your
money and time and effort trying to
accomplish this so um it's not uh a
panacea but it's it's definitely
something to try to become aware of and
the ways I mean I don't know I think the
best ways I would explain it is like do
you stress out when your schedule is off
with your workouts and your diet is off
is it something that you that you think
about a lot and that you fear uh moving
away from like hey take a week off i
don't know if I can do that right
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yeah this message is not for the person
who can't string 30 days together right
the opposite of if you're if you're
somebody who hasn't put 30 days of good
eating and training together this is not
this isn't although they also I I'm glad
you said that Adam because that person
who hasn't strung together 30 days of
exercise could be suffering from body
image issues and could slowly be using
that to motivate themselves to become
sure the fitness fanatic and if you get
into that cycle it becomes a bad uh
right becomes a a bad relationship so
it's very very challenging uh but again
I think we're probably speaking more to
the person who's obsessed right now i
think that's easier to identify that
obsessed person um so I think we'll
start there yeah so let's let's uh let's
pretend like we just got a client that
you figured this out you've been
training them maybe for a little while
or whatever and you've re you realize
this now like okay this this client has
this issue you're for sure now like I've
been training them long enough if I got
to know who they are I see this is
actually an unhealthy relationship take
me through the steps on like the first
thing that you do for that person or
tell that person what's the first thing
that you you say number one is to take
time off from your workouts uh depends
on the person but typically a week a
week
take time off the workouts and take time
off from measuring and weighing your
food and I'm assuming that when you
prescribe that it probably comes with
some parameters too because you probably
know that that person will find
something else to do or like what are
you telling that like okay take a week
off okay s what does that mean does that
mean I can't go for a run does that mean
I should do nothing exercise-wise or
like what do you kind of prescribe like
some low impact options yeah like get
them to go outside and just walk you
know after meals yeah i like walking i
like reflecting and journaling uh during
that process and then measuring a
weighing you got to go off also and then
now the fear is and by the way you could
flip this okay somebody who's into
strength training could flip this time
off i've done this into a de lo week
yeah I'm taking a week off really it's
part of my programming though is what I
do so what I do is I led into that week
off sure by training more so I can have
the week off and it's still just about
their performance and they're happy it's
still part of the program you know what
I mean really take a week off um and
then the weighing and measuring the fear
is that because I don't have the
structure of weighing and measuring I'm
gonna go in the opposite direction and
completely binge and you might you might
and that's okay you might do that and
that's okay but we got to create some
space between you and this this
unhealthy relationship first so if if
I've got a client that is is listening
to me and taking the advice a thing that
I add here is is to journal how you feel
through this whole process so when you
don't prepare your meal and you get
anxiety or stress like that like
document that i want to like write that
down how you felt why you felt that way
peer into that when you uh normally
would go to the gym at 5:00 after work
to go lift and you come straight home
document that how did you feel what was
going on i think uh during this time
when they're taking that time off of
their of lifting and weighing and
measuring food uh it at least
documenting without any like real
structure or formalities around it just
just write it down so we can talk about
it yes and it's it's this is so powerful
because uh for a couple reasons one if
you're like me uh and I do this and
let's say okay let's say my issue is
weighing and measuring food it's not my
issues are are different but let's say
that was my issue and I go off weighing
and measuring and then I end up just
binging right which is a risk it's a
real risk it's totally fine it's it's a
total real thing it might happen because
I'm not weighing and measuring now I
feel like I'm off the you know off the
rails yeah off the rails and I'm just
going to go right if I waste that by not
documenting it and allowing myself to
become aware it's a waste that's right
all you did was binge if I document it
allow myself to feel the shitty feeling
and talk about it i just ate a
family-sized bag of Doritos i just ate
an entire pizza here's how I feel here's
why I'm doing i couldn't stop myself my
god I was eating it and I felt like a
machine and I couldn't stop myself and
here I am you know 30 minutes later my
stomach hurts i feel so much shame
whatever if you do that you're not
wasting it you're actually using it
leveraging it for growth if you don't
write these things down like if I just
took a week off of working out and I
made it part of my programming and I
didn't document how I actually felt I
wasted it so so that's why the
journaling is so important that can look
like journaling could look like prayer
it could look like but really keeping a
you know keeping track i like writing it
down so we can we can talk about it when
you get back to my session like when I
see you in a week I want to sit down and
I want because here's here's other ones
you've you've seen in this case right
you see the the binge person then you
see the other person who uh after
they're done eating they're documenting
things like "I was still hungry but I
was afraid to eat anymore because I knew
I wasn't measuring and weighing uh I
wouldn't even finish my plate or I would
skip meals or do things like that
because they don't have the control of
the measuring and documenting part so
they don't want to put all this weight
on so bad so then they they lean on the
I'm not going to give myself enough food
that to make sure I don't overdo it and
so you see that sometimes and all of it
is valuable information when we are
trying to gain insight on our
relationship with food and exercise and
so that's kind of what I'm telling the
client is like hey there's no there's no
judgment here it's just literally let's
just document see how you feel what goes
on during the meal times what goes on
during typical exercise times and tell
me what's going on and then when you get
back we'll unpack it together yeah cuz
sometimes it's like it's one or the
other uh in this case in terms of their
like focused intentional uh pursuit of
either you know cutting or losing weight
or like you know not putting weight on
or it's the opposite it's like I got to
keep you know trying to to push myself
to get muscle and I can't ever like not
have x amount of protein or x amount of
meals throughout the day and you know
sometimes that's like you know a
challenge in itself to to have somebody
kind of stop and like maybe we don't
have this meal like right then and you
know there's no panic there like we got
to address the panic of that yeah and
again you know just to hammer it home um
when you break free what you're doing is
you're trying to or what should I say
when you take time off and do it in this
way what you're trying to do is loosen
the grip uh that this slave master has
on you because you're a slave to it
that's what it is when you so it's so
stressful to miss a workout or not get
the right workout or it's so stressful
to not measure or weigh or force feed
yourself in the case of someone who
feels like they're too skinny then when
when when those those feelings are
because you are a slave to this
particular thing it is driving you you
are not in control it is in control and
so one of the first things you just like
an abusive relationship with somebody
like a human you got to break free for a
second that's what people say right an
abusive relationship get out of the
house go hang out with some friends and
create some space then you start to get
this awareness oh my god I didn't
believe it had so much control over me
oh my god I can't believe and so that's
that's why that's the first step and
it's also one of the most difficult ones
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to make it real by telling other people
so challenges behaviors unhealthy
behaviors uh are they grow and flourish
in the dark mhm they any kind of
unhealthy behavior that you that you
have if it's just you and we lie to
ourselves often because we say "I'm
going to handle this i don't need to
tell anybody nobody needs to know about
this i got this." Really what what it
what it does is it has a grip on you and
it's growing and you're not making it
real so it's very important you tell
people you trust "I got this problem."
By the way I'm going to say this right
right now if it's an alcohol or drug
issue people right away are like "Oh my
god I'm with you." You may get this if
you tell somebody you have an issue with
exercise you have an issue with diet
well you may get the honest which is
like "Oh my god I knew you had this
issue i'm glad you're telling me." You
might also get this what do you mean
you're so healthy like I wish I could
work out as much as you yeah so so pick
the people wisely who will hear and
empathize with you and will support you
but mostly it's to make it real it's a
real thing and then of course there are
professionals you could talk to like
therapists but I do think aside from
telling a therapist because it's really
easy to disconnect from a therapist like
you could just not show up to your
sessions anymore and it's gone the
people around you it's much more
difficult to tell people around you to
your earlier point it's real easy to lie
to yourself and say "Oh it's a D load
week." You know what I'm saying or
justify it another way versus I mean
isn't that I mean I'm assuming that is
the philosophy on why the AA meetings
start off that way right hi I'm Adam i'm
alcoholic right it's like they teach you
to start like that yeah first admit that
you have a problem and so if you are
already denying that or not telling
others and you're afraid to admit it
even to yourself the likelihood that
you're probably going to follow through
I would imagine is very very low right
like if you're not even willing to say
"I've got a problem." You're trying to
hide it and fix it at the same time it's
like well the chances of you being
success the idea of this is to be
successful right the idea is to help
break those chains or loosen that grip
like you said and often times the people
that are the best people to tell uh your
challenge with uh to are well first of
all people you trust and that you you
know care about you but they're often
the people you don't want to tell
because you're afraid they're going to
tell you how it is they're Yeah they're
going to hold they're going to hold you
accountable really honest yeah and and
they they're going to be honest with you
and um and you might also be afraid of
of create destroying this image that
they may have of you like this person
thinks I'm so perfect right the last
person I want to tell is this part
that's the that's the exact person you
need to tell and that's really makes a
big difference it really makes
especially if you relapse if you relapse
it's these people that will help you get
back on track if you relapse and it's
just you good luck good luck you're
going to stay right on the same path um
next is to stop weighing yourself and
studying yourself in the mirror y stop
measuring yourself stop all the tracking
of your body and paying attention um of
your body creates a crazy obsession
crazy obsession and uh you know the way
the scale lies to you yep uh it can
fluctuates all the time and if this is
you by the way uh here's another sign
that you may have an issue the scale
determines how you feel for the day
right oh I had a great night's sleep oh
we had so much fun yesterday weigh
yourself on the scale i gained two
pounds ruined negative immediately yeah
days ruined i would have clients like
this like I train them they would get
leaner build muscle at the same time but
they're trying to just lose weight on
the scale they feel good oh my god my
friends are saying I look so good get on
the scale i only lost the pound yeah
ruined their entire day or I've had
people that I've worked with who were
doing the wrong things and I'm looking
at them and their health is not doing
great their strength is declining they
have dark circles on their eyes they get
on a scale i lost seven pounds i'm so
excited yes uh the other one's staring
at yourself in the mirror and studying
yourself what a sub and that by the way
that mirror it's like those fun house
mirrors in the in the in the you know
what are they the circuses or whatever
where you go in and it gives you this
kind of distorted view of yourself in
extreme cases by the way I mean we've
all seen those cases of people like
extreme anorexia and you ever think to
yourself like how do they not know
how do they not see what they're doing
themselves cuz they don't see the truth
they don't see it no you look when you
when you have this uh you see only your
flaws mhm yep amplified yeah there
that's and that's why it's amplified
because that's all you are looking at
you know that one side of you looks this
certain way or you don't have symmetry
here or whatever it may be or you carry
a little extra body fat here and so as
soon as you go walking over the mirror
you are already visualizing those
negative things about yourself it just
reinforces that this one right here is
going to take more than a week right
like obviously the Oh this one's for a
long time right so the the advice is to
first take a week off to create space
like you said create space start this
this process but also understand that
this is most clients that I had to break
away from the mirror and the scale it
took months six months yeah it took
months of not using uh the scale and
becoming comfortable with how they feel
and our training without without it and
you know I I'm looking for the I don't
even care anymore normally it's even
after a few weeks they're like "Ah it's
hard i just want to check up real quick
and see like so this one's going to take
a while how many clients did you have
where you had them stand on a scale
backwards so you could track them but
few a bunch that's actually normally
what I would do later on in my career I
just dismissed it completely early on in
my career I still made the case like
well I could I need this data right i
need I need this data to make sure that
my programming and everything I'm
telling this client is on par and so I
would tell them to step on the scale
reverse right and I wouldn't tell them
what the what it weighed and just say
"Hey we're doing good don't worry about
it." U later on I realized that I don't
even I rarely ever weighed class yeah
then I stopped then I stopped
alltogether then I was just like "It's
not even that necessary." And and the
studying yourself in the mirror is
literally that so like "Oh what about
when I brush my teeth comb my hair?"
Yeah that's fine do it real quick get
out get out get out from the mirror stop
studying yourself yeah yeah i was say
you can you could brush your teeth
without being fully like you know half
naked in front of the mirror too looking
and studying type of deal but this this
takes a while because uh the reason why
you should do this for a while is
because this will derail you very
quickly so let's say your fear is uh you
know you don't want to gain any weight
um or your fear is of being that fat
person again and so you take time off
you're telling others you're moving in
the right direction mentally and
spiritually healthier then you get on
the scale and you gained 5 lbs right
real quick that'll throw you off yeah or
if you're that guy like me does oh my
god I never want to get smaller i never
want to shrink i never want to lose
muscle and if I study myself in the
mirror and I notice I lost a little bit
of muscle very quickly going to throw me
in the opposite direction so you got to
get away from those for a long time next
up is to ideally turn off social media
or second option is to change the
algorithm that shows up on your social
media puppies so this is Yeah oh puppies
so this is a uh fun to talk about th
this point because by the time um you
know by the time like social media got
popular I was no longer really training
clients so I didn't this wasn't like a
common thing that I had to recommend but
I think today if I was training a client
that was suffering this I would be very
I'd actually I would ask them to delete
everybody like and start over if I if I
could get them like hey listen let your
family and friends know do a post
whatever hey I'm I'm cleaning up my
Instagram i'm going to unfollow
everybody it's nothing personal but I
want and like that's I would tell them
to announce it so they're comfort it
kind of kills two birds one stone too
right i'm coming forward with what I'm
doing and going through yeah and I'm
going to I'm going to do that i'm going
to reset my algorithm and so I would
unfollow everybody and then that point
on I'm going to make a very conscious
decision on following somebody and if if
it's somebody who's going to be a
constant reminder of how I'm not good
enough or they're so much bigger than I
am or they're so much fitter than I am
I'm not going to follow that page and
I'm I'm certainly not going to uh allow
myself to justify it with oh it's
motivation like no don't it's not
motivation at all the goal right now is
for us to do this without that so if I
was being uh training a client now I'd
be more prescriptive and be like
unfollow everybody refollow family and
friends and be very very careful about
Yeah i mean social media is interesting
it's just turbocharged this to death
there's data that shows uh just how um
powerful it is in this regard i mean
when you're on social media well you
have to understand I've used this I've
said this point before right what you
see often becomes what your brain
perceives as reality in the world and
then you subconsciously we're always
subconsciously this is like human nature
challenging part of being a human is
you're always ranking yourself yep
against other people okay pitting
yourself against somebody else yeah and
so you know if you're if if you were if
you grew up in a dark room and all you
ever saw was the NBA on TV you would
think and you're 6'5 you'd think you
were kind of short because everybody is
you know super tall right so if you're
on social media and what you're looking
at are imperfect or sorry perfect bodies
that are impossible to accomplish you
look at ripped bodies you look at
whatever and it's just in your algorithm
and you're scrolling through that
becomes your reality when as whereas the
truth is actually very different walk
around the real world people look like
that it's super rare but now you're
comparing yourself this is actually more
this has been shown to really amplify
body image issues among adolescence and
teens because of their use of social
media it's exploded the problems with
those kids and and I know Justin said
the puppies thing kind of tongue and
cheek but there's some truth to that
like you know I've I've watched my
Explorer Page radically change just
simply off of what I'm into at that time
like I mean it looks so different right
now than say it looked maybe seven years
ago because of what I was into seven
years ago and what I'm into right now
and so you control that and it doesn't
take very long you'd be surprised by the
time you've gone through a couple months
of liking specific stuff that is what
you're going to get fed and so making a
conscious effort to go okay I'm aware
that looking at these other bodies that
I'll never live up to is not a healthy
relationship but what is some healthy
relationship stuff for me what are some
things that that does feed the soul that
does give me the things that uh
reinforce the habits the behaviors the
relationship with myself that I want
follow those pages and make a conscious
effort to like a lot of that content and
you can actually start to control i
actually think this is going to be
something that we train kids to do later
on because social media is not going to
go away most all your kids are going to
use it i think we're going to we're
going to get better at informing our
generation coming up on how this works
and then how to actively go pursue we
have to cuz it's I mean the the natural
knee-jerk reaction is that it's evil and
it's it's you know it's going to present
you all these things regardless and you
do have that bit of control it's smart
the it picks up on when your eyes are
looking at the longest it it it whenever
you go to another page and you follow a
certain account it's it's going to track
that and it's just going to present you
what your natural habits are and so if
you can control uh your impulses with
that and you can really like prescribe
yourself um you know which what account
is going to benefit and fuel me what's
going to feed me and what's going to
help me along this this path of like
really building me up instead of me
comparing myself yeah I'm glad you said
that because and I do think the future
looks more like this i do think in the
future because of the awareness around
social media you're going to have the
option to click or to make
recommendations on like a like a
settings page like I want my algorithm
to look more like this or this or that
because as of right
now it is very hard to change your
algorithm if you focus on what not to
look at versus what Justin said which is
what to look at okay because it it picks
up how long you hover mhm it picks up of
course likes comments it picks up uh all
the things and the related things with
your behaviors and it's really really
smart your algorithm will switch very
quickly uh on that kind of stuff so one
of the most effective things you could
do is to is to prune your social media
and it gives you this option i can click
on on most social media platforms i'd
like to see less of this you have to do
that less of this and then go seek out
the stuff you want and say I want more
of this and like the things you want to
see more of and and get rid of the stuff
if you don't do that your subconscious
will direct it right back i mean you can
even hide content i don't know if people
know that but yeah if like it's
something you see something repeatedly
and you're like "Ah what like why am I
still looking at that?" you can and you
don't want to you know completely delete
that account because maybe you're
attached to them in some reason or what
you can still just hide their content so
do that we've taken the week off we've
taken some steps to prepare we know that
this is going to be um probably some
time with the mirror and the scale and
that but we're working towards this
process now uh it's been a week and I'm
going to get back into exercise because
exercise does provide a lot of good
things for me um what what am I telling
that client how are we going to approach
our fitness now you got to go you got to
uh approach a goal or focus on a fitness
goal that is so opposite of your body
dysmorphia or your challenge that it
takes you away from it all right what
does that look like well if your
challenge is you don't want to be that
fat person again well now you need to
train like a powerlifter like your goal
is to get strong as hell if your
challenge is I always want to be jacked
and I never want to be skinny then you
need to go mobility or stamina you need
to go in the opposite direction
otherwise your workouts will very easily
very quickly veer back to what they were
doing before so the person who's afraid
of gaining weight you're not going to
run you're not doing crazy cardio you're
not doing crazy circuits you're going to
rest for three minutes you're going to
train like a powerlifter and all you're
going to focus on is getting strong now
if my issue is building muscle and I
just want to keep building muscle I
don't put me in that direction that'll
be very easy i can go to powerlifting
training no problem i can go to
bodybuilding no problem i would need to
focus more on stamina mobility yoga
stretching endurance running all the
opposite things circuits you know stuff
that works opposite of of what my issue
is um that's the that's got to be the
focus for a long time and maybe forever
if this is always going to be a
challenge of yours and what you'll find
is slowly you'll be able to move away
from uh what that challenge was and we
see this more commonly in our callers
who are trying not to gain weight and
very commonly with women we'll have
female callers call in who are afraid of
reverse dieting so afraid and oh my god
I'm doing so much cardio and I I'm
overtraining and I don't know what to do
what do we often do we often tell them
all right we're going to have you stop
running you're doing powerlifting and uh
and it works it works if they can follow
it uh but again that's the opposite if
your issues like mine was which is I
always want to build muscle yeah got
some questions how common are body image
issues you know I there's they're very
common i kind of touched on that a
little bit right you did but I in in in
adults in the US it's over 50% of people
that will report is that a true stat
uhhuh over 50% of people will say that
admit it that that will say that yeah
they admit it in the in the gym nearly
one in three health club users report
significant symptoms of body disorder so
that's interesting so the you have 50%
of the general population that just
admits it which to Justin's point that
are admitting it that you know the other
half probably just just ignore it or
don't realize it and then you have
onethird of anybody who's already
actively pursuing with severe with more
severe symptoms and 70% of those people
have had an eating disorder wow yeah wow
is that high huh yeah well in that
population so onethird of gym goers uh
have significant body disord by the way
think of all your gym Think of all the
gyms we've ever managed and think of all
your members it's probably 1/4 to
onethird are fanatics the ones that
always show up it's probably them
now of them 70% have had an eating
disorder is what the stats and eating
disorder people think right away of like
bulimia and that direction but
orthorexia too orthorexia has a bit
eating disorders where you just have to
measure and everything has to be
accurate by the way look I I I want to
just give people some empathy we live in
a world that celebrates how you look so
much and and reinforces it so much and
tells you that your beauty is so
important so much uh that that of course
of course and then we're told that
obesity is so unhealthy and we're so
unhealthy and what we what we do is we
quickly translate that into looking a
particular way not the health but
looking a particular way so of course
this is very common does competition
contribute to body image issues oh it
depends on the competition but
absolutely you show me you show me a
chronic marathon runner uh especially
female and I'll show you someone who's
who's so scared of gaining a single
pound you you know bodybuilding of
course going on stage and showing your
physique about the only one that would I
would say is well it's not necessarily
because you could also be obsessed in
that direction too but we tend to to put
people in the direction of like a
powerlifting competition if they have
body image issues if they or unless
their body image is like was mine
powerlifting would not be a good idea
yeah yeah someone someone who's obsessed
with strength and numbers uh then that's
that's not going to help that person but
you know Yeah well let's be competition
is is not a health competition is sport
and sport isn't healthy yeah so rarely
ever is that going to be the answer for
somebody who's trying to solve some sort
of a relationship with exercise and diet
is hey let's go put them in a
competition you know like that's uh
because usually comparing literally
comparing yourself to something else
yeah that's what it is unless it's some
healthy version where you're just trying
to kind of you know remind yourself like
this is where I need to be and I got to
challenge myself every day to kind of
step forward and all sport is on one end
of the spectrum it's not balance sport
is yeah I'm trying to be great at this
thing which what comes with being great
at anything is sacrifice of other things
and so you know some parts of health are
going to get sacrificed in pursuit of
competition so really ever is is
competition the answer for somebody who
has body image issues how can I help
someone who is struggling with body
image issues you know number one is this
the most important thing with this is to
show them grace because if they're still
talking to you and they're telling you
you are 99% of the way there the the the
big challenge is when you don't show
grace oh you screwed up again come on
man you know better guess who's not
telling you next time they screw up
they're not telling you anymore so grace
is the most important thing if you can
keep them feeling like they can trust
you and they can tell you and that
they're not being judged harshly there's
by the way there's nothing wrong with
true love with love or you're you hey
man you know that's not good for you you
know or whatever when it's appropriate
that's totally fine but if they feel
judged uh harshly or there's no grace
they will stop telling you what's going
on and they that's it you can no longer
help them so that's the most important
yeah i think the the the most important
thing is how you can help them is by not
feeding into the body image issue right
like challenging that person calling
that person nicknames things like that i
mean of course well you Yeah i mean but
I like you absolutely could be uh that
person if you truly care about this
person and you're like trul I want to
help them well one of the first things
you start by doing is not teasing poking
fun or or encouraging some of these
unhealthy behaviors and so you know less
about what you need to do and more about
what you need not to do i I think in
this situation is you know allow allow
them to work on it be supportive uh and
don't add fuel to the fire this was a
breakthrough for me as a coach because
initially I was that hardcore trainer um
and what happened was clients who really
struggled they didn't tell me the truth
they don't want to tell me when they
went off their diet or when they
whatever uh I had to kind of figure it
out later i I I got so much more
effective when the person came to me and
I was the first person they told when
they binge ate or when they screwed up
or whatever cuz they felt safe with me
and sometimes it took a long time i had
clients I trained for years before they
figured this out but they talked to me
they talked to me the entire time and
then they finally did uh figure it out
so uh that's in my opinion that's
definitely one of the most important
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