We Need Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence | Charlie Kirk
We absolutely need Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy.
It is mission critical, top priority of this program,
top priority of Turning Point Action.
Tulsi is one of the greatest people I've ever had a chance to know.
And joining us now is a dear friend of Tulsi Gabbard, Megan McCain.
Megan, great to see you.
Megan, you and I have been on different sides of certain issues during the Trump
era, but we're on a hundred percent agreement on Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby
Kennedy. So great to have you here.
And I've really enjoyed your commentary in support of both.
Please walk us through your friendship with Tulsi Gabbard and why you believe
Tulsi should be confirmed as DNI director.
First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity to come on and speak with
you today, Charlie.
It's really a pleasure. I've known Tulsi a really long time.
I was even trying to remember how long, I think it's like eight years at this
point. And we became friends through Van Jones, of all people who said that we
were a lot alike and he wanted us to become friends.
And we just had this lunch one day in New York after she came on The View and
we closed the restaurant down and we're like crying over, like bonding over
different things. And we've just maintained a really close friendship for
years now. She's the godmother to my eldest daughter, and she is one of the
greatest patriots, humans.
She's the bravest, most talented woman I've ever met.
It's a privilege to be her friend.
I don't talk to her that way, that we're like normal friends.
I don't tell her this all the time, but she really loves America and she loves
God. And the national security of this country is something she takes to heart
with her every single night.
It's like a burden she takes with her.
And I just think we are so lucky as Americans to have her put in this
position. And quite frankly, I'm horrified that she's having any trouble at all.
I'm horrified that there are senators like Young and Lankford that are
hesitating in any way.
I think it's despicable.
She's a combat veteran.
She's more accomplished, in my opinion, than anyone who's being put up in this
segment of cabinet members.
I'm a fan of RFKs and I like Kash Patel as well.
This is not to denigrate them, but she is highly qualified and it is imperative
to this country and to the administration that she gets over the line.
I totally agree with you.
And so just the objections that some of these senators are raising are so
weak. And I spent a lot of time over the weekend trying to contact some of their
senators or friends of them.
So, OK, well, what is the issue here?
And you're not allowed to use Russian agent because that's BS.
It's completely nonsensical.
And it's as if they it's just like weaponized semantics.
I mean, what is it? Because she has a totally clean FBI background check like
Sterling. She currently has a security clearance.
She served her country and continues to serve her country.
All of these kind of talking points against her are just nonsensical.
What what is their contention and your message to those Republican senators that
seem to be putting up an unnecessary fight?
Look, I'm not traditionally MAGA, as you know, even though I'm really happy with
this moment, I was telling your producer, it's like a time of new hope for, I
think, all Republicans. And I'm really, quite frankly, enjoying the cultural shift
towards the right. I don't understand because I know that Senator Lankford and
Senator Young come from states that are basically 100 percent MAGA.
I think all counties in Oklahoma went for Trump.
I didn't understand their line of questioning other than I think there's been a
lot of really disgusting and abhorrent propaganda against, again, a current
member of the military has put her life on the line multiple times for our
freedom. I think there's been a lot of slander, sadly, from people like Hillary
Clinton and Barry Weiss on Joe Rogan that took on a life of its own and quite
frankly, wasn't squandered enough.
I know her so well.
And again, I'm someone like my dad couldn't legally travel to Russia because we
were sanctioned. Do you think I would be friends with someone who was compromised
by Russia? It's absurdity.
And I just find it disgusting left wing propaganda that for some reason there
are some Republicans that have bought into.
But I would I just want to tell you, Mr.
Kirk, today, if anyone votes against her, I promise you I will do anything in my
power to make sure there are consequences for this or RFK for that matter, because
this is more it's about more than just Tulsi and RFK.
This is about the new coalition in the Republican Party and particularly women and
moms who came out in droves, a lot of first time Trump voters who came out and
voted because they wanted this squad of people.
They wanted the dream team, which includes RFK and Tulsi Gabbard.
And they deserve to have their choices in the cabinet.
It is not up to just these people.
And you can't give me a real reason you don't like Tulsi other than you've
listened to some propaganda on the Internet.
And I just I'm heartbroken by it.
But I do think we're going to get her over the line.
And if for some reason we don't, I promise you, I there will be hell to pay.
And I hope that you will join me and get it right.
I will. I will join you in launching primaries against these people.
It's so inexcusable.
There is there is no argument there.
I want you to dive deeper into this, Megan, because I was really taken by something you
said on the Mark Halperin show that I totally agree that there are millions.
We don't know the number, but a significant portion of moms and women that are now
Republican and voting Republican because of the Bobby Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard unity
party. When I speak to D.C.
insiders, they think that's overrated, obviously, because they're high on their own
supply. I know I know it's not overrated.
I think it's actually one of the decisive ingredients to this new Republican governing
majority. Please speak more about this.
A lot of moms and this is obviously anecdotal in my life, but every single woman in my
life, except for like two, voted for Trump and some of them were not traditional Trump
supporters. And it was in no small part because of how radicalized they became during
Covid with the lockdowns and the vaccines and all the things we already know.
And RFK and Tulsi gave them a new hope for the future in lots of different ways.
And also, you know, trans people in sports, like all the culture war things.
And I think that they gave a safe space to vote for Trump, for people that were maybe on
the edge or independent or had been Democrats in the past.
And I think when you look at people like Jessica Krause, who runs the Incredible House
and Habit Instagram account, there is a momentous wave of women in this country who are
supporting RFK and Tulsi Gabbard and Trump as a result.
And I don't want to lose these people.
I don't want to lose the future.
We have to start also looking at, you know, elections four years from now, eight years
from now. I love this cultural moment right now.
I've never felt more validated.
I spent so many years of my life getting my you know what kicked because I was Republican.
And to see everything I said come true.
I love this moment. I don't want to lose it.
And RFK and Tulsi Gabbard are integral to making sure we don't lose these people.
Yeah. And I again like again, they don't have a Senate majority because of James
Lankford. OK, like let's be honest, like millions of moms did not show up to go vote.
It was because of President Trump's understanding and ability.
And honestly, it is a lot of credit for giving them the highest possible promotions of
Tulsi and Bobby Kennedy.
Let's talk about the Bobby Kennedy wrinkle for a second, because we have touched on
Tulsi Gabbard. He especially has put a health emphasis and
a health focus on the Republican Party that moms are very conscientious of that otherwise
was not an element. You remember, Megan, like 10 or 15 years ago, that was a primarily
Democrat kind of coalition eating healthy, you know, having a you know, having
more questions about the health care system.
Now it seems it has come to the conservative Republican Party.
It's not just politically advantageous, but it's also the morally right thing to do with
our kids being so sick and so inexcusably drowning in chronic illness.
Bobby Kennedy represents a 10 to 15 percent boost, I think, for the Republican Party.
Please speak about that. Look, I was just watching a video right before I came on here
about this organic eggs that I personally buy that apparently is really bad for you.
And if you look at the like subtext of the ingredients, it's it's not they're not
actually that organic. I think I became much more acutely aware of all of this during
covid like everybody else, because, you know, I I have not given my children the covid
vaccine. They are vaccinated and then fight with other vaccines.
But I'm I'm very fearful of the covid vaccine.
And I started reading the way everybody else did about, you know, different things and
the long term consequences.
And it just, I think, started opening up a lot of people's minds about how much the
government lies to us.
And to me, it was like there's a group of people who will lie forever, who will lock
down our children to make sure that their mental health deteriorates to holy hell.
They do not care about moms.
They do not care about kids.
They do not care about their health.
I mean, why do we have so many foods in this country that are illegal here?
Skittles are banned in Europe.
Why? Why am I allowed skittles here and not in Europe?
There's a coffee creamer that I use that's banned everywhere else.
But here I found that out. Why isn't that here?
Why do I have to be doing this much homework?
And I think he was showing a sign of new hope for those of us like I'm genuinely
worried about my children being poisoned by the food we're eating.
And I am far from the minority.
And again, I one thing that I really took away because I sat with Tulsi at her
hearing last week or this week, excuse me, was that the senators really don't
understand this movement.
That was my big takeaway, particularly from Senator Young and Senator Lankford.
And then obviously the Democrats, it's like they obviously don't know any maha
moms. They don't know this coalition of people, which is really, quite frankly,
pathetic because it's such a huge swath of the American public.
But they need to understand if they blow this somehow, there will be consequences
to high health. I think moms of America never underestimate what they can do when
they are angry and pissed off.
I mean, my governor here in Virginia got elected because moms were told that they
didn't have a right to send their kids to whatever school that they wanted.
And they had to have, you know, biological men sharing bathrooms with young women.
So I just they need to understand.
I don't know how to get people like Senator Lankford and Senator Young to
understand. But this isn't just about them.
It's about a mandate from the American people that President Trump is helping
execute. Well said, Megan, thank you for your time.
I want everyone to check out the Citizen McCain podcast.
I believe that is the name.
And I could not be in more agreement that we need Tulsi and Bobby Kennedy for this
big party governing coalition.
Megan, thank you so much. Thank you for your time.
Email us freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com and subscribe to our podcast.
I mean, I totally agree. We have this moms movement and what are we just going to
discard it and we're just going to kick it aside because you have this.
Oh, I was going to say something, I'm not going to say it for the senator from
Oklahoma. These guys really irritate me.
This line of questioning Tulsi as if she's some sort of Russian asset.
I find it repulsive.

