The Candace Owens Show: Mario Lopez | Candace Owens Show

They're gone. They can watch it. They're watching from the outside. There's like a screening room, yeah. Nice little setup. Your assistant's really chill, by the way. Yeah, she's cool. Yeah, I like her. She's great. Okay, everybody, we are rolling into another episode of the Candace Owens Show. There's a pretty strict don't ask, don't tell policy when it comes to politics in Hollywood. Here with me to discuss, maybe I'll ask, maybe he'll tell, Mario Lopez. Welcome to the Candace Owens Show. Thank you for having me, Candace. Good to be here. So what's it like just being... I don't even know if you're conservative, but I think that you do hold a lot of conservative traditions. I follow you on Instagram, and you seem to have a family that's very intact. You're very big on family, the nuclear family, I would say. You have a wife that seems to adore you, kids that seem to really value you. You spend a lot of time with them. Your whole Instagram page is your children, which I love. And that actually kind of seems to be the counter current in Hollywood, I would say. I mean, we're all about Team Lopez. I think it's all about the five Fs, is what I always say, like family, faith, food, fitness and fun. Right, yeah. And so that's sort of, not to be corny, but my brand, if you will. And I think I try to encompass that in all areas of my life. But I don't have a problem saying I'm conservative. I don't know if I'd necessarily declare myself having an allegiance to one party or the other. I consider myself unregistered as an independent, but I am conservative, and I want to see everyone win. I want to see communities thrive. I think a large part of that is personal accountability. And so being here in Hollywood and growing up here, really, because I've been in the business since I was 10 years old, right? And a long time, a long time. Still look the same, everybody. Very sweet. And you know, I'm first generation here. My parents are from Mexico and immigrated here and still very much together. And I think anything I've ever been able to accomplish, I owe to my mom and dad. And they instilled a strong work ethic and a strong sense of family. And that's what I try to, you know, constantly still make them proud even, you know, now. So your family immigrated here from Mexico, okay. And they immigrated here, I'm assuming legally? Yes, many years ago. Many, many years ago. And they instilled in you values. You just brought up faith, which is a big one for me, because I always say, and this is just, I don't mean to be rude, but whenever I land in LA, I feel like it's a godless city. Like it's a godless town and people think of themselves as the gods. I don't know why that's such a bad word now, and especially in this community too. I mean, I know you're not supposed to, they say don't talk about politics or religions. And like I said, I really don't ever talk about politics, as you know, because I'm in the people, and this is why, I'm in the people business, right? Right, right. Because I'm in show business, so I'm in the people business, and I don't want to alienate anyone. Yeah. I want everyone to watch, to want to watch me. And I think if you follow me, though, I'm not afraid to talk about my faith. But I think a lot of people, for some reason, I don't know why it's become so polarizing, you know. And I was thinking, just like, I don't know how it came up the other day, but I was talking to somebody, and Dr. Martin Luther King came up. And I said, you know, one of my favorite things about him is that he came from a place of faith. If he came around today, I think he'd be a polarizing figure, or I don't even know if he'd be able to achieve the things or the heights that he had because he was faith-based. Right. Which is unfortunate. Yeah, it's a bizarre thing to think that talking about faith and talking about family alienates people. I don't want to alienate different people by saying that I believe in God and I value my family, right? And I think a lot of the problems that we have stem from not having that, unfortunately, that nuclear family and having that base and foundation of a strong family or having an infrastructure that's maybe faith-based. I mean, that's an opinion, obviously, but I think a lot stems from that. I think it's true. I kind of have been on both sides, so I think I alienate people now, which is bizarre because I came from a more liberal position. I wasn't so conservative when I was a teenager. Right. I don't think any of us are really. I think as I've grown older, too, I mean, I came from a strict Catholic family, but as I've grown older and I was, you know, I was an all-boy growing up and learned a lot of my lessons the hard way, but I think I learned them. And as I got older, I started building more spiritual muscle, too. And I became, you know, you start growing up. That's exactly right. You start growing up. Yeah, I think, and that's true. There is a component of being young that sort of attaches you to liberalism because you're experimenting and you want to feel you can try everything. But ultimately, what I always tell people is I wasn't happy. I wasn't happy. So as I became more conservative and sort of had this return back to faith and a return back to family and really valuing those things, I became a happier person. And it's bizarre to me that this is considered so controversial when I read about myself. I mean, if I had just switched my affiliation and said I was a liberal, I think Hollywood would love me. I think I'd be celebrated. I think I'd be on every late night talk show. But because I say that I believe in faith and I believe in family, suddenly I'm not I can't be mass market like they and that's something that's really hard for me to understand. Like what is being disrupted when you tell people that you believe in faith and believe in family? Why is that such a tough pill to swallow, especially in Hollywood? I think we're afraid to I shouldn't say we Hollywood is afraid to even though I'm part of the community, I guess. But I don't know. I always think of myself. I don't look at myself as like a Hollywood guy, even though I'm, you know, I'm a kid from Chula Vista, which is a couple hours south border town there to Tijuana in Mexico. And it's a world of difference here from Hollywood in L.A. But my parents are still down there. My family, my friends, they're all still down there. And people that I surround myself with are all people that I've been with since I was a kid. So I know who's here for me and it helps me put things in perspective. But I think we've become now Hollywood is a society where everyone's afraid to defend incredibly politically correct. And for a creative community, I think that's it's very dangerous to and it limits you and stymies those creative juices. And as far as telling stories and having conversations, and it's it's it's sort of frustrating to see from from the outside. So that's why it's better for to not even go there. Right. My friends know, I think my my family and bless you and people who who follow me and stuff. But it is interesting to see for a party that our community that's supposed to be all about inclusivity and diversity. They're with you unless it's diversity of thought, right? Or unless they want you to look different but think the same. Like they're okay if everybody looks different, but as long as they are in lockstep and they think the same. And I agree with you that I think it it runs counter to creativity. So when I grew up, I used to watch all of the stand up comedians and Chris Rock, because there was one bigger and blacker. It's comedic gold, right? He's so offensive in that it go back and watch it. He's making fun of school shooters like he's like, there's definitely going to be a white guy. That's a white crime, right? And he's in the room and he's mocking people for being white, for being black, for being Hispanic. And everyone's cracking up. And what people miss about this, this culture of being so sensitive, is that when you're able to mock everyone and mock yourself, it actually brings you closer. You stop taking yourself so seriously. And comedians, that'd be the be so apprehensive of wanting to get into comedy right now because you feel so handcuffed. Now you like the situation with Kevin Hart a while back. And when he was going to host the Oscars and then for something he said, and that's another slippery slope. When you start going back years, thank God my bachelor years and all that was pre-social media. Right? Could be done. Oh my God. I can't even imagine all the stuff. So that's a very scary situations. I think about like future presidents and our future leaders, they're all going to have pictures or videos of something. Not necessarily. That's all I, cause that's just the way kids are now, right? That everything's documented and there's going to be moments of when you're silly and maybe you weren't so proud of, and that's going to come back to haunt them. And that's just a very slippery slope. And, and, uh, I think it's, it's, it backfires. What do you think about that? Cause you, now you're raising kids in this climate. So does that make you hesitant to allow them to be on social media? That's a big question. I think parents have to ask themselves, am I going to allow my child to have social media? Okay, sure. They're going to eventually, but when? Well, mine are still fortunately very small. They're going to grow fast. They're going to grow really fast. Yeah, no, I know. I know. But, so I've got a minute to, to, to get it together, but I mean, I think it's inevitable that they're going to be in, uh, social media is just part of our, our fabric now. And I think if you monitor it, um, and you're united as parents, which is always very, um, important, you'll see, at least I'm assuming, um, as long as you're united and there's a um, and again, monitored, then I think I, then I think you'll be all right. I think if you try to shield and hide now, then I think, look, you do, it's, it is what it is. So you might as well have conversations about it and start, um, pointing out what's right, what's wrong, how you carry yourself. And that's a little gentleman, little lady and, and talk about consequences of your choices and all that. Then I think, then I think it'd be all right. I'm not, I'm not one to shield, protect my kid. I, I don't know. I don't want, uh, I'm not a, everyone get a written kind of guy or, you know, my kids, uh, my son is, as you know, cause I know you follow me. Um, he's into wrestling, he's into jujitsu and he's in all these individual sports, which I really like because I think it teaches you, well, there's no team in life, right? I think there are a lot of great qualities you learn from team sports too, but I've always been partial to individual sports because there is no team in life. You rely on yourself. Um, when you're out there, you're completely vulnerable and it's all about you. You, you lose. It's your fault. You win though. It's all you and it's all your glory and you have no one else to, but, and I just think that's, it's character building. Right. We're all going to die alone. Yeah, exactly. You, you learn confidence, your discipline and all attributes that can help you as a, as an individual. I actually do want to talk a little bit about some of the activities that your son is into because they're very boyish, right? He's wrestling, he's doing jujitsu. My brothers, my, yeah, my cousins did all that stuff too. And a lot of weird trends come out of Hollywood. And so does dad, by the way, that's why I'm all, if I keep going like this, my back is a sucks getting old Candace. Everything hurts. I still act. You push it. You push it hard. Yeah, but gosh, yeah, exactly. I just turned 30. So it's, oh my God, you're a baby. It's all downhill. Happy birthday. I know you did, but happy birthday. Um, but so there are some weird trends and one of the weirder ones for me, at least to try to process is this new trend where celebrities are coming out. And I know Charlize Theron did this a few, a few weeks ago and saying that their child is picking their gender. And this is strange to me just because I, and they say, oh, I looked at my child. My child was swimming in a bathtub and looked up and said, mommy, I'm a boy. And that's weird to me because even though I'm not a parent, I nannied for five years of my life. And the things that come out of children's mouth, like they are just, they say whatever in the moment, you don't know what they've seen on TV, what got in their head. And I've had children say they were mermaids. I've had children say they could fly and jump off of a staircase and thank God I caught him. Right. Cause he thought he could be Superman. And so I'm trying to understand this new Hollywood mentality where they just think that their children now, uh, have the mental authority and, uh, and, and I am trying to understand in myself, please don't lump me into that hole. No, I see you're not doing that in your household. No. I mean, I'm, I'm kind of blown away too. And, um, look, I'm never one to tell anyone how to parent their kids, obviously. And I think if you come from a place, you know, and I would say if you come from a place of love, you, you know, you, you really can't go wrong. But at the same time, my God, if you're three years old and you're saying you're feeling a certain way or you're, you're, you think you're a boy or a girl, whatever the case may be, I, I, I just think it's dangerous as a parent to make that determination. Then, okay, well, then you're going to be a boy or a girl, whatever the case may be. And it's, it's sort of alarming. And my gosh, I just think about the repercussions later on. And, uh, to me, I just see depression because I, when I was, uh, in fifth grade, I don't know, it was this weird thing in fifth grade where me and my girlfriend, Molly, like we just, we were tomboys. We just were like, we're tomboys now. So we'd wear like baggier pants. The cargo pants were in and I tried to make my voice a little bit deeper. One year went to middle school and everything was fine. It was just a phase. And I hadn't gone through puberty yet. Like you can't make a decision about your sexuality when you're three years old. I was in fifth grade. Well, that's just it. I don't think you're, when you're a kid, I, you know, I, at least when I was a kid, I remember the kids still think my daughter, some boys have cooties and that's it. You know what I mean? They're so, I don't think they, they, they're, you don't know anything about sexuality yet. You're, you're just a kid. Right. And then making that determination so young, I just see like, if my parents, when I was like, I'm going to be a boy today, shaved my head and we're like, that's, you've made the decision. I can't even imagine how depressed I'd be once I went through puberty. Once I started liking guys and then having made up my mind when I was in fifth grade. And I think that's, that's a really scary trend that we're seeing coming out of Hollywood right now. And at the core of it, to me, seems like narcissism, like virtue signaling. Like you just want to say, I'm so tolerant and I'm so accepting that whatever my kid wants to do, they can do. Yeah. I think as parents need to allow their kids to be kids, but at the same time, you've got to be the adult in the situation. Pause with that. And I think the formative years is when you start having those discussions and really start making these declarations. And, um, it's, it's way too young for some of these other, I just personally think it's just way too young. Yeah. We're not psychologically there when we're three years old, at least I certainly wasn't. And then another thing, and it's not just with the children. I think I read something else and I don't, it might've been on TMZ or something, but who I love, by the way, I love Zoe Saldana. I've been such a fan of her for a very long time. And she gave an interview where she said that in her household, they just switch roles. So you mean they raise them like gender? No, the has her and Mark Perico just switch roles. So she says that she does the manual labor and like the elect wires, electricity or mounts the TV and he will do the dishes and stuff just because her children were wrestling one day and said, Oh, we're, we're boys. We want to be strong. So they wanted to teach their children, um, that roles could just be reversed and that sort of a thing. And I thought to myself, well, they seem to have been being boys wrestling, got boys, Russell. I think that's okay. And I almost think that that's confusing. I just, I just think children are being confused. Well, it's like I said, I, cause I know other parents who have certain parenting styles that I necessarily, uh, don't agree with, but I do know they're, they're, they're good people and they're coming from a good place. Right. And I don't think they're bad people. No, I don't think that. Yeah. And so, you know, certain people that I know, I don't agree necessarily with their styles, but, um, and, and that's a, that's a conversation you never want to get into. You'll see his parents like never, Hey, have you ever thought about, it's very defensive and it goes south real quick. Friendship over. It's so, yeah. It's sort of like if your buddies with someone and you really don't like the person they're dating. Right. And then they, they break up for a hot minute and they come up and they start venting a little bit and you're like, I never liked that person anyway. But then, you know, 10 minutes later, they're going to, or a week later, they get back up and then it makes it awkward and weird. So it's weird. I just, you know, I worry about what goes on at Casa Lopez. Right. Focus on, uh, on me and mine. And, uh, God bless them. What about playdates? You know what I'm saying? Like, so if I had a child and I know that in this household, they're just confusing people and saying, Hey, in this room, you can pick your gender. I'd be like, maybe stay at Casa Lopez. They don't kick it with those kids. It's just a little bit confusing for children. Yeah. Well, you know, my kids, again, um, um, they go to Catholic school and I wanted a faith based education and they're very clear. A lot of these other schools, they don't Catholic school keeps it real. And this is the way it is. I love the uniforms and, um, and again, structure and the whole, so, you know, Yeah. I think that that's kind of where you have to go. I think my children are going to go to Catholic school or go to, yeah, go to a super religious school because I, I really do think that the trend is, is actually harming children. I'm super protective over children. I think it's, it's, it's a beautiful time to be a child and you should allow your child to experiment, but to the degree that it has gotten to in society, I just think it's kind of, we're burning the place down a bit. What did you see it in, in, um, Hollywood and, and obviously they have the platform to sort of, uh, promote that, that trend. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if it's catching on everywhere, but, um, you are, you are seeing it, which is surprising. Yeah. Right. And what about, I'm going to ask you about this sort of, I call it radicalized feminism, but all of these sort of movements that we're seeing, um, that are just believe women hashtag believe women and those sorts of things, which kind of came from Hollywood. Like, you know, were you supportive of those movements when they first came out or did you kind of just want to wait back and see what happened with it? Like, it's gotta be so interesting to be conservative in the midst of a very liberal Hollywood town. I think blanket statements, um, or hashtags like believe women, which the first time I heard it, I think it was during the, uh, uh, the Blasey Ford and Kavanaugh situation, I think. Right. Um, and I think that's again, a very, uh, dangerous, um, uh, hashtag because, uh, people lie, believe women. Right. And it was trending. And I just, I think that's dangerous because people lie and sometimes those people are women and God forbid you have a son out there and, and, uh, a girl may have felt a certain way about a situation dismissed, hurt, whatever, and is feeling vengeful and just decides to tell a certain story. That's not exactly true. Right. Come back and really hurt that individual. And if we're just supposed to assume she's telling the truth without any sort of, um, proof evidence, and then that's, that's incredibly dangerous. It is. And it's scary just because I think for me, I don't have to. And the other way around too, you can't just believe men either. Yeah. I wouldn't believe men. I wouldn't believe hashtag believe dogs. I might be hashtag believe cats. I love cats. I don't think my cat has ever told a lie. Okay. See, I'm allergic to cats. I can't kick with cats, but I have great respect for cats. Right. Cats have a big purpose. They did. However, in Australia, they're trying to kill millions of them because you haven't read that. No. So they're trying to get rid of like two, 3 million cats because they've decimated. The birds. Yeah. A bunch of species. Right. No, I told, I told my fiance, he couldn't believe me. I'm like, no, I don't think you understand. Stone cold killers. They have taken away like 26,000 species of birds. That's impossible. North Carolina too. It was really, I don't think of my radio too. She was like, dang cats are like gangster. They are. They're totally gangster people. I'm super into cats. I don't want to go on a dark hole on this because I love my cats so much. And they are the most fascinating creatures the entire time. They are. They serve a purpose. At least the dogs just kind of. Yeah. They will run. They will indeed run the world one day. I think so. I think I'm really impressed with you because I think that there actually needs to be more people like you where people find me depolarizing. Like, I don't know why I just, I'm black. I'm conservative. And I think I just say a lot and it shocks people. But I think with you, you're kind of in this place where you're in the middle where people like you on both sides. And that's a great position to be in where you can talk to conservatives. You're like, look, I'm conservative. I speak to conservatives. You're not exactly flamethrower making people feel like they can't be liberal. But I think that you should use your platform more because there needs to be more of a normalizing of the political discussion. Well, I thank you, first of all. And I agree. I think there does need to be. Unfortunately, I think you suffer consequences in this business if you don't fall in line. Now, I'm not shooting from the top of my, you know, screaming from the top of my lungs, you know, I hate Trump and all this. And so, and unless you're doing that, then you're not really kind of in the club or celebrated. And so I just don't, I just choose not to go there. But I think by not going there, people know. And then I think when I talk about my faith or maybe the way I carry myself or try to lead by or live by example in my own way, I think that's the best I can do without damaging future employment or business opportunities, unfortunately. That's really sad. You know what I mean? On my podcast, which you came on, people gave me sometimes a hard time. And I said, I want to talk to everybody. You know what I mean? I want to talk to people that I find incredibly smart, fascinating, that I'm intrigued by. I mean, I've had yourself, but at the, I had Julian Castro come, right? You know what I mean? Or Don Lemon was on, but then, you know, I had Tucker Carlson. So I love people from all both sides. Which is great. And I want to talk to, and that's what I think is so important, Candace. And I, unfortunately, maybe social media has played a huge role because you now fall into these certain think tanks and you segregate yourself with like-minded people. And you don't have to get into certain discussions or provoke thought or see the other side, or maybe open up your mind because you can just kind of stay in your own little bubble, which is sad. But I want to talk to everyone. I want to hear all sides. I want to be, I always want to learn. Right. And I think it's fascinating. So for me, there's never been a liberal that I wouldn't sit across the table from. You know, I was a liberal. So how it would be completely wrong of me and ridiculous to say, oh, they're just so wrong. I can't even hear from you. Because people, people change. People evolve. People hold certain positions for reasons that you might not even know, you know? Sure, yeah. I always want to know, why do you think that way? Right. Okay, okay. Let me, okay. And that makes it, it might open my mind up to something else. And we called it, by the way. You and I called it on your podcast before it was out. The Jussie Smollett thing was all going to fall apart. Boy, we were really right about that. Yeah. We were totally right about that. He's sticking to it, though. Which I kind of respect. He's resilient. I was like, you got to give that. He's resilient. But that was a fascinating situation in that the way it went down and people were so quick. And even on my show, because that crossed into the line of entertainment, right? Because he was an actor. And I said, are we, you know, we got to be careful here with his, we got alleged, you know? And when he was talking about his attack and everything. And I said, let's just be careful. Because even the producers are so quick to sort of, for lack of a better word, celebrate the confirmation bias. Right. Exactly. So I said, wait, hold on. Let's pump the brakes and let's just report of what he's alleging. And let's just see it. Let's see it all play out. Because it sounds, he got a little too creative with his narrative. He was way too many props. Got a little too creative. The subway sandwich. I said, my man is not a good producer. When he produced this little episode right here, I said, whoa. I said, had he not gotten so creative, he might have been all right. He might have been okay. He might have been all right. Picked the wrong night, too. It was super cold. And I can tell you, Black people, we do not like the cold. So for us to just be strolling around, we would have used Seamless, some app to order food. Like, we're not going out to Polar Vortex for a sandwich. That's what got me. I was like, hold on. Hold on. We don't really do that. Yeah, like at three in the morning. And it's cold. Chicago cold is next level cold. So I was like, whoa, you know? But it's very sad when you think about it. It is sad. Because that was, I think, a perfect example of how victimhood is celebrated here. It is. And that's a big, big problem. And that's what's going on at the—and I see, what is there, 22 candidates now in the Democratic field? I'm like, I'm trying to think, okay, how do you—I'm interested to see the debates or the upcoming debates when they happen. Because how are they distinguishing themselves? Everyone's sort of saying the same thing. And trying to— America sucks. Everybody's racist. Everybody's sexist. Vote for me. Right. And they're trying to out-radicalize the other. Yeah. People in prison should vote. They should be 16 years old and like, whoa, wait. Three-year-olds should vote. They can pick their gender. Why can't they pick their president? Whether how you feel or whatever the party, I mean, can we all agree that you lose your right to society? You shouldn't have the right to vote. You know? I know. That is radical. I mean, that is actually radical. Or lowering it to 16. You barely can drive. Or maybe—and then— But there's a reason for that. Because, listen, my thought on that— I think they should be older. And I agree with you on that. I don't—I think that it should be older. Because I just think of how politically ignorant I was. The thing is, is that until you start paying bills, right? Until you're actually a functioning member of society, your viewpoint on how society should be is utopian. It's a utopian concept of like, if you ask a three-year-old, hey, do you think everything should be free? You should have to pay. A three-year-old's going to say, everything should be free. And that's really what they're selling. But you can't sell that to an adult. Adult's going to have some questions like, wait a minute, right? How can everything be free? But a 16-year-old who doesn't really have a concept of how life works, and they kind of swipe their mom's credit card, it becomes easier to sell these concepts. And I think that that's what we're seeing. It's becoming radicalized. And there's something to me that's a bit predatorial about it. Like, you're like, well, we're just going to have to go after the kids because these policies don't work. But kids don't understand that policies don't work. Yeah, and adults know that nothing's really free. So someone's going to pay. Someone's going to have to pay. And then it's interesting, too, because a very diverse feel, and that's what they—the left's always preaching the diversity, and we have women, and we have people of color in the party, and Pete Buttigieg, a gay guy coming in, and the whole—but at the end of the day, now Biden's leading the older white guy, the older rich white guy. You know, and then— Bernie Sanders second. And Bernie Sanders second, yeah. So it's very interesting to see how that all plays out. Do you think Biden ends up getting the nomination? No. Really? I don't think he ends up getting the nomination. I think what they're doing with him is the same thing they did with Hillary, where they're pretending, like, suddenly the polls say he's going to win, and this is it, and then some weird stuff is going to happen, because he is establishment, right? So he's got—the media is going to get behind him, and we're going to believe that he's the best candidate. But I'm not sure. I'm not entirely sure. I think maybe Bernie might, because he'll get AOC's wind, and she'll stand behind him. But I don't know. Bernie might have messed up, though, with the prison thing. With the prison thing? Yeah. I don't think the situation in Venezuela helps either. It's not a good look for socialism. Don't worry. Theirs is going to be different. Right, right. They're not going to start plowing people down until, you know, three months in, yeah. So, you know, that not being a good look for socialism is not— Right, right. I know, I know. And that's the thing, is just that I do believe that as Americans, we are extremely uneducated. And the problem is that very few countries—America might be the only country that you can get on a plane for six hours and still be in America. And unfortunately, so many people are not well-traveled. So one of the blessings of my early 20s is that I traveled to so many different countries. And traveling and seeing the way other people live really makes you love your country a That's such an excellent point. And listen, America, okay, whatever problems we may have, believe me, way better off. And when it's the best country in the world, that is not just hyperbole. It really is the greatest place in the world. It is. And when you travel, you really appreciate it. You appreciate it. And you really get it. Right. No matter what issues. Right. And they'll say, oh, well, you know, we're not the best in the world. And people are passing engineering tests at a higher rate in China or in India. And I'm like, do you want to live in India? No. Okay. So maybe there's a different metric. Maybe there's a different way that we're measuring to determine what makes a country great. Everyone wants to come here. At the same time that you're calling us a racist, sexist, misogynist society, you're demanding that we open our borders and let everybody in. But what is it that we have that everybody wants to come in to receive, right? And I don't think it's handouts. I think it's opportunity. And I fight to protect those opportunities. You're exactly right. I mean, I'm an example of that, right? Coming here and being first generation. And I don't think I'd be able to do what I was fortunately been able to do if it wasn't here. Right. And to have these opportunities. When you were rattling off all those labels, those words have gotten to the point where they almost mean nothing. They mean nothing. It's sad. And you know, it is. I was just going to say that. It's kind of sad now because there's just so off the cuff and flippant when they're- Disagree with me? Racist. Right, right. Don't see it my way? Sexist. Right, exactly. And what it does is, and something that Dennis Prager always talks about, is it actually cheapens evil. Where now if you are a racist, you can get away with it. Because they're calling everybody racist. Right. So when somebody says, this guy's racist, it's like, well, they said, Candace is a racist. I'm being called a white supremacist. I mean, this is really where we've gotten in society. That's funny. Where I read headlines that say that, you know, the first ever black white supremacist. And I'm just trying to- Isn't that a Dave Chappelle skit? They call me that. They call me Clayton Bigsby. Clayton Bigsby. He was funny. I like Clayton Bigsby. That skit could never fly today, by the way. Right, right, right. Could never fly today. A lot of the comedy. Could never fly today. Go watch any of those things that we used to laugh at. If you even laughed at that skit, like we just laughed, they would have you labeled. They would say, this isn't funny. Because everyone's so sensitive and they can't take a joke. And it's problematic. Because, like I said, being able to laugh at one another, that's what brings us together. Yes. Because there are stereotypes. And there's truth in comedy. And I wonder if it's affected like TV Land with all the old shows that they've been. Because if they're falling into these- Obviously, well, the repeats are like, that's interesting. We'll have to check that out. But you're right. And I was having that discussion the other day too, is you can't laugh at the same- And you're almost afraid to laugh and for fear of- Simpsons. They got rid of the Indian guy. Yeah, that's right. They got rid of him. They are going back. It's so weird how this generation and the millennials now who were raised on a show like Family Guy, which was so politically incorrect, but funny and all the stuff that becomes so sensitive. Right. I love, love, love, love Family Guy. South Park and Family Guy. Right. Yeah, I don't know when it happened though. Because I would say, honestly, it happened over the last 10 years. Because when I was in high school, it wasn't like that. And then suddenly- It was the last. Yeah, it was just the last 10 years. And then it got crazy. And I actually can't pinpoint where exactly it came from or where we became so sensitive. It's gotta be social media though, right? Because just the- It's given these people to a platform to really be- Before they just sort of cry and complain to themselves and their friends. Right. But now they'll find other people and they'll gain a little momentum and it becomes buzzy. I gotta imagine, I gotta- There's so many wonderful things about social media. There's so many wonderful things about getting the news so quick and staying in touch and people are funny on it. Right. But then at the same time, God, there's such a bad side and dark side to it. But I'll tell you, the good news is that this younger generation, Generation Z, they are so not politically correct. It's insane. It's really bizarre. I'm just like, I don't know where this came from. Maybe because millennials were so politically correct that they just came wanting to be the exact opposite. They're the meme culture. So all of these memes that you're seeing online that are mocking people, they love to offend. And I'm like, thank you. Thank you, you young kids. I don't know where it's coming from, but they are uprising and Generation Z, they're really conservative because I spent a lot of time on traveling nation. Oh, that's good to hear. God bless because memes are funny. I'll go down a rabbit hole and start looking. Right. They're so funny. Yeah, I'm memed a thousand times on the internet. I love, I even love a good meme about myself. Yeah, you appreciate it. Yeah, exactly. I love people who make fun of me. I'm like, actually, that was really- I've seen a couple of myself too. I was like, hey, that's good. Yeah, that's actually really good. And it makes things really, really funny. And that's what I'm hoping as a society that we can return to, we can just start being able to laugh at ourselves and not demonize people for having a different perspective and not making people feel fearful, especially in the climate of Hollywood, that your whole life is going to be over if you say something like, I believe in God, right? No, I agree. I agree. I look forward to being able to have discussions with people who had different viewpoints on a platform that others can see and create. There's going to be some new gigs coming up where the platforms will be a little bit different, where I am going to be able to give much more opinion and point of view. So I think through that, people might be, to your point earlier, be able to see like, oh, OK, he's a little different maybe from the other people. But I think you'll survive it. You're very likable. You have a quality where you're very likable. And I think that you've been around now for so long, and people have known you for so long, that it makes it hard. I mean, I say that, by the way, and they did celebrate Donald Trump until he ran. So I could be completely wrong here. They'll be like, ah, I forgot the whole time Mario was a racist sexist. But I do think that somehow you'll survive it because they love you and you're around people all the time. And some of the people that the thing that breaks my heart is that they were celebrities that I loved. I used to love Ellen DeGeneres. Like she was such a light. She used to bring forth issues that were super important. And the number one people that harassed me on Twitter are her producers. I'm like, this must be the most tolerant show that I grew up with. I used to watch like, ah, like a hug from an Ellen show, an episode of the Ellen show. And then our producers are like, you know, so mean to me. And I think it's sad, and I'm fine with it. But I think it's sad for the people that are under me, that are part of these movements like my movement, Blexit, that say, I just want I want to be black and be able to think differently, to feel that they are not accepted and they are not welcome. And they are boxed out by the people that they spent their entire childhood celebrating. People would not be in positions that they are in today if it wasn't for those people buying their CDs. You know, when somebody turns around and says, all my fans are racist, right? I'm like, do you realize you live in a country that's majority white? Like, do you think that Eminem, who did you think was buying your albums? Like just black, the 13% of black people is what got you to where you are. That's the thing that I can't wrap my head around. Everything that Hollywood has is thanks to the racist, sexist, misogynist Americans. And they don't honor that by being more tolerant or accepting of different viewpoints. I like people, like I'm a people person. I like people. I like being a host because I like being a host in real life. I'm the same guy that's, if I'm hosting a party at my house, barbecue, game night, whatever, that's the same guy that you're going to hear on the radio or be on TV. So I like people. I like learning about people, like hearing different backgrounds. I like having different viewpoints with people and hearing their stories. And I think if you generally are a people person, then you're going to be open to the differences and may not agree with them, but it's okay, at least have a respect them. That's the thing. You don't have to agree with everyone. You shouldn't, by the way. You shouldn't agree with everyone. You can have a difference of opinion, but you should at least be courteous enough to listen and hear them out and respectful enough to be able to have a discussion. That's the problem because we're not there anymore. Where do you think we're headed though? Are you optimistic or pessimistic about- I'm always the eternal optimist. I am too. You know, I'm the eternal optimist. So I'm thinking this can only last so long because people are kind of getting tired. It's very taxing and it's draining. At the end of the day, look- Everything's racist. Oh, I have to hate air today. People want to know about the economy. They want to know about health care. They want to know about immigration. They want to know about things that are going to affect them. This opioid crisis. Real issues. At the end of the day, my gosh, how many times are we going to go back to court and discuss the election and all this? It's like, let's move on. Let's talk about things that people really care about and what's important to them. And that's the discussions we should be having. Right, right. I'm tired of talking about Trump. Even the people that support him are just- Is there anything else going on in the world with Donald Trump? That's my question. Is there anything else when you turn on the news that is going on other than Donald J. Trump? And it seems like the answer is no. And I think that because fatigue is starting to set in, we will see- That's what it is. I think it's fatigue. It's fatigue. Yeah, it's a bit of fatigue. But I think that- I'm hoping that if he gets reelected, they'll say to themselves, I just gave it four years of my best emotional, I need a break. I think so too. And I was actually saying that. And look, I always say, if you fly on a plane, right, I'm rooting for the pilot. Right, right. I'm rooting for the pilot. I don't care if that pilot's Republican, Democrat, whatever. I want him to land safely. I want us all to arrive and get to our destination. Right. Right now, President Trump's the pilot. Rooting for him. Want us all to arrive safely. Want us all to get to our destination. About the same way when Obama was in office. Exactly. It doesn't matter. The same way President Obama. So the same thing. You got to, you got to. And so you're doing yourself a disservice. And your community is a disservice. The country. If you're always kind of fighting it, you got to plow ahead and focus on what's important. All right. Well, I hope that you are going to be the solution, the Hollywood solution, to get people to kind of normalize it. Bring people together. Maybe host a dinner. Right. That's what you should do. You should host a dinner. I like dinner parties. Right, right. It's just like staunch people on the left, staunch people on the right. And show them that everyone's just a human being, even though we have different opinions. Yeah. Okay. So we wrap up every episode, but you have to launch a vibration into the world. So you have to look into this camera. Okay. We put two minutes on the clock. And then you get to say, like, whatever your perspective is. I'm Mario Lopez. And if I could descend, if I could put out one message to the world, this is what it would be. Are you ready? He's got a timer. Right, right, right. Wait, two minutes? I got two minutes? That's a long time. You can use as much or as little as you want of it. Okay. All right. Ready, set, go. Hey, I'm Mario Lopez. And listen, I just want people to be able to have discussions with one another, be open-minded, work hard, stay focused, do the right thing. And I think the right things will happen for them. So with that said, I'm going to keep it short and sweet. You know, God bless everyone. And hope to be back and see you soon. I just want good things to happen. Yeah, I want good things to happen. I want, you know, I want people, I think if they work on themselves and are better people and take care of their own household, and then from there, maybe getting involved in the community, then that's where I'll win. He says, Jordan Peterson. Have you had him on your show, Dr. Jordan Peterson? No, I haven't. But he says, clean your room first. Clean your room first. Exactly. You could have stolen his whole line, right? Well, see, him and I are like that. I didn't even know. But it's true. It's clean your room first. Clean up your life first, and then everything else will get better. Thank you guys for watching the latest episode of The Candace Owen Show. I hope you guys enjoyed the conversation as much as I did. 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