Self-Worth & Saving the World | Lewis Pullman, Hannah John-Kamen Thunderbolts* Interview

You were like an octopus with arms, just completely, just throwing up. I mean, that was... It was many, many days. Many days, many days. Yeah, it was an exciting one to kind of map out. You know, like anything, it's really led by our incredible stunt team, and, you know, the double that I was fortunate enough to work with, Alec Back, was just like such a pro. Brandon Davis with Faze Hero. Lewis, Hannah, Thunderbolts is just terrific. You guys are amazing in it, so thank you for talking to me about it. Thank you, man, appreciate it. I gotta say, I was really taken, like, blown away by how the I'm fine line is a recurring theme in this movie. And as somebody who's like, you know, had my struggles, like many of us have with, like, depression and self-worth, and just different things that the world throws at you, the way this movie handled that I found to be really impressive. So I'm curious if in bringing that story to life through Thunderbolts, gave you guys any new perspective on those things. Yeah, well, I'm really glad you caught that, because that's awesome to hear you talk about that, because it was a discussion, you know, throughout the whole course of the movie. And, yeah, basically that meaning, you know, it means many things, but obviously we really wanted to kind of depict that scenario of, like, the conversation doesn't end there. It rarely is, you know, do you actually get a follow-up question? I'm fine is our kind of M.O. for reacting to that. And it was a good kind of reminder while shooting that of, like, it's okay to, you know, to ask, you know, really? Are you really actually, you know, doing okay? And kind of follow up. And also that it's encouraged to talk about it, and that oftentimes your imagination of how it's going to be received is always worse than what's actually going to happen. Your imagination is incredibly inventive at coming up with the worst possibilities, and almost always it'll be met with relief and with being held, you know. Is that kind of what it's like making a movie in general? Yeah, yeah, totally. You're like, oh, everything that can go wrong, and then you get here. It's like, oh, people love it. It's awesome. Yeah, pretty much. Sentry is a character that's so powerful. I mean, people, like, compare him to Superman. And I'm curious, when you have a character that's that powerful, how do you find the vulnerable way into him? I mean, it's the reverse that's the more difficult part, you know. I definitely relate to Bob with his imposter syndrome equalities, you know. And so I think Bob really has a journey of believing in himself and believing that he is of worth and that he actually is in control of things. And so I think that was the more challenging part to kind of take the leap towards, was being like, but in many ways that reflected my whole experience of being a part of a Marvel movie, was being like, you know, okay, convincing myself every morning, like, I should be here and I can do this, you know. And so that was a good, very meta learning experience. Yeah, you were great, man. Welcome to the MCU. Thank you, brother. Hannah, welcome back to the MCU, by the way. I mean, your costume this time is something that caught my attention because the first time it's like a white suit. It's very attention-getting. It's very Ghost. But this time it feels like it's a much more, like, I'm comfortable with myself being Ghost type of look. Can you talk about how the costume Ghost is wearing might be representative of sort of where she's at when we find her in Thunderbolts? Yeah, I love that. Absolutely. In Ant-Man and the Wasp, her costume was basically functional for her not to die and flick her away. And it was more of a pain-harnessing project, basically, that, you know, she has built to, it was, you know, it was man-made by her and Dr. Foster to basically not die. And in this movie, this is, you know, this is property of, this is Valentina. You know, she's now a different way you find her. It's like professional in a way. It's like professional. It's harnessed. It's powerful. It's controlled. It's assassin, you know. It's assassin time now. It's that. And it's, yeah, it's complete control of her own power, which I love. Yeah, it was awesome to see. Yeah. The other thing that's awesome to see is that action scene. I'm not going to say what it was, but there is an action scene where the camera never cuts. Can you guys talk about crafting that sequence where it's, like, you're taking on everybody in a really cool setting? Like, technically, what was that day on set like? It was not just a day. You were like an octopus with arms just completely just throwing up. I mean, that was. It was many, many days. Many days. Yeah. It was an exciting one to kind of map out. You know, like anything, it's really led by our incredible stunt team. And, you know, the double that I was fortunate enough to work with, Alec Back, was just, like, such a pro. And we could kind of create together what the body language looked like and what does somebody who's that indestructible, like, it's almost like they're gnats and he's shrugging them off, you know. And so that control and then kind of differentiating what it looks like when Century's fighting versus when Bob is fighting. Bob is very much, like, a scrappy, untrained, kind of, like, uncontrolled guy. Whereas Century needed him to be very intentional and also very small movements, you know, in order to kind of convey the reaction to his small movements was really what we were like, that's going to sell his power. I remember that scene because I remember there's, I mean, yeah, we're all in it. But I remember even just kind of rehearsing it or actually filming it. It's like, all right, Hannah, you're up. You're go. It's like, oh, gosh. Here we go. Oh, man. That was such a good sequence, though. You guys crushed it. And Jake did amazing. My last question for you guys, going, you guys were announced to be part of Avengers Doomsday during that chair video that I sat and watched for five and a half hours. Did you really? I have the whole thing. I was live on YouTube watching it with everybody. It was fun. Oh, yeah. But, so, I mean, Thunderbolts, sort of like Guardians of the Galaxy was, it's sort of these misfits who find each other. And they're not like that Iron Man, Captain America, like the ones you associate the Avengers with out of the gate. And now you're going on to an Avengers movie having all found each other. Do you feel like the characters sort of have like a chip on their shoulder to go prove they belong as a team with these other teams? Definitely still, I feel like, right? I don't know. I like, I think, well, yeah, I mean, like you said, I mean, some of the superheroes are aspirational and then we're, like, relatable. Yes. Yeah, exactly. So, I think that's kind of like where, yeah, where we left off is, you know, that's where we're together. I can't wait to see you guys again. Thank you so much for the time. Thank you so much, man. Appreciate it.