The liberation of Julie Mulligan

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16 years have passed since John Mulligan received a phone call from northern Nigeria to his home in Drayton Valley, a small town nestled between two rivers in central Alberta. “John. I’ve been kidnapped.” The caller was his wife, Rotarian Julie Mulligan. What followed was 13 days of fear, uncertainty, and strength. In the aftermath, Julie set out to live a more authentic life of Service Above Self.
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information. I was in bed. It was around
I'm going to say
11:30 our time and uh actually falling
to sleep.
The phone rang.
John, I picked up on her voice right
away and I said, "Yes, Julie, what's
wrong?" "Haven't you heard?" "Heard
what? I'm kidnapped."
A man's voice comes on the phone
sharply. He demands 100 million nera or
about
$700,000 for her safe return. "We'll
call back," the man says.
He hangs
up. That phone call from northern
Nigeria to a home in Drayton Valley, a
small town in Western Canada, occurred
in April
2009. The person who had been held
hostage while on a Rotary mission was
Julie Mulligan, a member of Drayton
Valley Rotary Club. John was her
husband. Following the call, Julie
endured 13 days of fear, uncertainty,
and unimaginable strength before her
release. 16 years have passed since that
traumatic event befell Julie. How has it
changed her and her family? Is she still
a part of the Rotary
family? Recently, Rotary magazine
managed to track down Julie.
Today, she and her husband live in
British Columbia, where, much to our
delight, they remain devoted Rotary
members. I was tasked with interviewing
her. Even though Julie agreed to the
talk, I wasn't sure if she was ready to
open up about her harrowing abduction or
how much she was willing to discuss.
However, after spending hours speaking
with Julie, her husband John, their
friends, and family, I was most
surprised at how Julie's experience
engendered a deeper understanding of the
nature of forgiveness and of our
interconnectedness. This is the Rotary
Voices podcast. I'm Kate Silver.
[Music]
So, how many times have you been to
Africa? Well, I've been cycling in
Tanzania, cycling in
Morocco, have been to Ethiopia and
Nigeria. My first trip to Africa was in
2008. So, I found this company that was
going to Tanzania. We cycled there for I
think about 10 days and were really in
the back roads and cycling through
meeting the people. I absolutely fell in
love with Africa because the people were
so warm and they were friendly. When we
came back from the trip, I was in this
kind of reverse culture shock and I was
trying to figure out, okay, how can I
get back to Africa? And so then I was
the president for the club of 2008,
2009. And there was some communications
that landed on my computer that they
were looking for a team leader for a
group study exchange to Nigeria. And so
I applied and eventually was chosen to
lead the team in Nigeria in April. So
what happens on a group study exchange?
Group study exchange now is being
replaced with vocational training. One
district will exchange with another and
there will be a team of five to six
people, one Rotarian leader and the
purpose of it is for vocational and
cultural exchange. And leading into that
trip before you ever set foot on a
plane, what were your expectations? What
were you excited about? What were you
anxious about? I was first of all just
excited to get back to Africa. That was
my very first excitement. And the
strongest reason why I wanted to go, I
was really looking forward to just
connecting with the different Rotarians
because I had learned already that
Rotarians, no matter where they're from,
they all have the same
heart. I was never worried about going
to Nigeria. But when Don was driving me
to the airport to meet up with my team,
he said, "I want you to call the
district and if it's safe, 100%." And I
said, "John, don't worry." And so I
picked up the phone and I called the
district person who's in charge of the
group study exchange and he said,
"Absolutely, everything's totally fine.
Not a problem. Don't worry." And so that
was that. And my son had said to me,
"Mom, don't go. Don't go." But he was
always worried about me and he always
had a little bit of anxiety whenever I
left. I wasn't worried at all. We were
just excited. Like we were excited to
start our
journey. At 44, Julia is slender with
caring green eyes, brown hair, and a
quick dry wit. She's the oldest of the
group, which is made up of four other
professionals in their 20s and 30s, and
she's the only Rotary member. Their
first stop, Kaduna, located in North
Central Nigeria, Kaduna is a bustling
and sometimes chaotic city of about 1.2
million. Although it's a major
industrial center, the town's
infrastructure and services have failed
to keep up with its growth. Power
outages are frequent and many people
lack access to safe drinking water.
Across the state, also called Kaduna,
about 45% of people live below the
national poverty
line. Today, kidnappings have become a
lucrative business and a growing threat
in parts of Nigeria, including the state
of Kaduna. In addition to armed bandits
and criminal enterprises that use
kidnappings for ransom to fund their
operations, Boo Haram and other militant
groups have carried out mass abductions
for ideological reasons and leverage in
negotiations with the government. In
March 2024, gunmen kidnapped 287 school
children in Kaduna State. But in early
2009, when Julie and her group went to
Nigeria, this wasn't the case. Back
then, kidnappings were concentrated
around the country's oil fields to the
south in the Nger Delta. But in the
north, visitors were welcomed with open
arms. In fact, showing visiting
Rotarians the real Nigeria is something
that Leonard Eigini has always loved to
do. And he is among the hosts for the
Canadian group's visit in 2009 with
plans to later lead the Nigerian team
that is to visit Canada. The word risk
did not occur to any one of us in any
part of Nigeria because it's something
we have never experienced.
[Music]
About a week into the trip, Julie and
her Nigerian host, Moses Cander, are in
the car. Okay. So, you're coming back
from was it a meeting? We came back from
a Rotary meeting where we were the
guests of honor and the rest of my team
had been taken back to their homes. So,
it was just you and Moses in the car.
Just Moses and I in the car. Correct.
Most of the homes that I saw had big
gates across the driveway and the gate
started to open and there was a car that
was in front of us. There's a teal
hatchback and it pulled up beside us and
driver rolled down his window. Moses
rolled down his window and the driver
said, "Do you know Mr. So and so? I
don't know the name." And Moses said no.
And so then the car started backing away
from us and then it stopped
suddenly and out jumped three men and
the middle one is holding a machine gun.
And that's when I realized like this is
serious judge. And they went to Moses's
side, one of them, and they pulled him
out of the car, threw him to the ground.
And then they came to my sides and once
they grabbed me and I just dug in my
feet and I just screamed Moses and they
hit me in the back with a machine gun
and pushed me into the back of the car.
So then I sat in between two of the
guys.
There were four men in the car and they
put my head down and we sped away and I
kind of started to lift it a bit and I
said, "Why?" And they put my head down
again and they said, "Don't lift your
head and don't speak or should
you?" John is in shock following the
phone call with Julie. Usually, he's a
soft-spoken voice of reason when it
comes to his family. Whether it's Julie,
her two teenage children, Stephanie and
Mackenzie Dean, or his adult sons, Greg
and Rob
Mulligan. But this is uncharted
territory. It was in the middle of the
night. My bedroom light
on said, "Come downstairs. Your mom's
been taken." That's Julie's daughter,
Steph. I was like taken away, taken
away. So I go downstairs and everything
just kind of happened so fast. The phone
was ringing and John was talking to
himself and all this and he said, "Don't
wake your brother." So we stood there
and he told me that she called and she
said that she had been kidnapped
and pretty shortly after a few people
showed up. Those people who showed up
were Alex and Gaelen Blae, Mary and
Terry Drader, who are all Rotarians, and
John's son, Greg. So, the five of us sat
there, and we sat there for a good hour
to an hour and a half. Finally, we were
sitting there about 5:00 in the morning,
and I said, "Okay, guys, I've had
enough. I'm calling the staff sergeant."
They came and staff sergeant and met
Corker and we sat there and we
determined the next best number to call
is K division in Edmonton and within 2
hours there was two people on our
doorstep. These two people were agents
from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police
or RCMP, Canada's National Police Force.
One of the first things they said to me,
they said, "This is where you're going
to be
located until
[Music]
we get
[Music]
released." In the morning light, Julie
assesses the situation. When the sun
came up, I had mosquito bites all over
all over my legs, the bottom of my legs,
and also my arms. And that panicked me
because I didn't have my malaria
medication. I discovered it was an
unfinished house that was in the midst
of
construction and it didn't have a roof.
It just this dirt floors. There were
actual sun blooms that had already been
done with cement. It was incredibly hot.
Just the sun beating down on us,
especially during the middle of the day.
She's starting to make sense of things.
The driver, who'd returned temporarily
and instructed her to call John, appears
to be the boss. The two young men
staying with her answer to him. In the
daylight, they look to be about the same
age as her teenage children. As lizards
and scorpions skitter by, she starts
talking to the guys, telling them about
herself, her kids, her family. For a
short time, she has access to her camera
before it's taken away. I immediately
took the camera over to the guys that
were with me the night before, and I
started going through pictures cuz I
wanted them to realize that I was a
mother, that I had kids, I had a couple
grandkids by that time. I wanted them to
see that side of me, make me human, and
to develop a relationship. She asked
them, "Why are they doing this?" The
younger one, who says his name is
Anthony, needs money for school. The
older one, who calls himself Oyo, just
needs money. They had this idea that
North America, that Canada, the case
would end with gold. She tries to
negotiate with the two. I got this idea.
I said to Anthony, you know, I could
probably get like $1,000 for my ring and
what if we left here because you're
probably being left here anyways. So,
what if we left here and I'll sell my
ring and I'll make sure that you get the
money and you can go to school on
os. And so, I was trying to get them on
my side that way. They don't take the
bait and she tucks her ring into her bra
along with the photo memory card from
her camera for
safekeeping. Recognizing that Anthony
and Oo are not the masterminds, but most
likely pawns, Julie feels a kind of
maternal connection to them. Years
later, she will think of them as the
boys. And as the situation wears on, Oo
starts to call her auntie.
Julie calls John the next day. When are
you flying over here? When are you
coming? What's happening with the money?
Julie's voice is John's salvation. She's
alive. But it's also torture because
she's distressed. She's frightened.
She's impatient and even angry. And
under the careful watch of the police
negotiators, he's not allowed to say
what he really wants to say. I had to
stay
calm. I couldn't show
emotion. I couldn't show my
love because that would give them more
energy.
By now, the house is in full lockdown to
squaltch any news from spreading and
putting Julie at even more risk. The
Canadian authorities give Jon permission
to have five couples join him in the
house. Day in and day out, Rotary
friends and family keep him afloat, even
as the tension
grows. Julie's daughter Steph remembers
those days well.
It was a lot of commotion and then a lot
of stillness.
She and her brother are pulled from
school and told they can't talk to
anyone. We would talk about it being
like a submarine in that house because
it was so closed off from the world.
Everything was just so
heavy. Mackenzie and I did a lot of
driving. There's lots of country roads.
So, we would just go and drive and
listen to music and we would call her
cell phone and it would go straight to
voicemail, but we would put it on
speaker and just to hear her say, "Hi,
you've reached Julie Mall again." So, we
would just listen to it over and over.
As the ordeal goes on, the agents advise
Jon that the kids shouldn't be at home.
They're worried that the kidnappers
could turn violent against Julie while
on the calls. So Steph and McKenzie are
sent to stay with family and friends.
[Music]
Julie was on the other line and she
introduced herself and she said, "I've
been kidnapped. I'm being held somewhere
in Nigeria and I'm here with the
kidnappers who are sitting next to me
now and I need some contact information
of Rotary members that I
know. The call comes in to Rotary
International headquarters in Evston,
Illinois. David Alexander was the
manager of Rotary's public relations
division at the time. He feels his
adrenaline surge as he's handed the
phone. Sitting nearby, general secretary
Ed Futa and general counsel Steve
Routberg had huddled to come up with a
quick game plan and were handling the
Canadian Mounties on another line. In
order to trace the call, the agents
instructed Alexander to keep Julie
talking. We had never encountered
anything like this before, and I think
we all felt a real sense of
responsibility to do everything we were
told to do.
Steadying his voice, Alexander's brain
goes into overdrive as he tries every
tactic he can to stall the call with
Julie. She asks for the phone numbers of
specific Rotary members, presumably so
the kidnappers can ask them for money.
And he improvises the conversation where
every line is a question so he can get
Julie to talk. I'd say, "Well, can you
spell that?" What do you mean spell?
like, "Can you spell the last name?" And
I remembered her getting very
frustrated. What? What do you mean spell
it? I was like, "Well, I just want to
make sure I've got the right person."
And then so she spelled the name. And I
said, "Can you tell me what Rotary Club
she's a part of?" And she she was
getting angry. She's like, "Why are you
asking me what Rotary Club? I I just
need their their phone number." I like,
"Well, we're working on it." What do you
mean you're working on it? I was trying
to get it past two minutes, but what
happened is at about a minute 30, they
would hang up and then they would call
back and give some more names and we'd
restart the
conversation. And each subsequent call,
her voice got more angry that we were
not being able to move more quickly
through this list of names that she had.
After the third or fourth call, all is
quiet. There is a level of when I hung
up of real
guilt that I wasn't helping her more,
but this is what we had to do and so we
were doing it. So, you're trying to
follow your instructions and you're
helping her, but she just wants
immediate attention and action and
connection. 15 years
later, did those calls still haunt you?
I mean, it was the most difficult half
hour of my work life that I've ever had.
Absolutely. I get emotional thinking
about it to this day. It was incredibly
difficult. A ton of pressure and then a
level of disappointment that even in the
subsequent days that there was no change
in the status and you're always
wondering if you missed an opportunity
somehow. But I'll never forget it for
the rest of my life. No doubt about it.
On about the fourth night, the boss
orders Julie into a car and they drive
to a cramped house in a nearby
town. Inside are two new people, a
pretty young woman whom she comes to
know as Anne and a menacing man named
Christian. In her mind, Julie thinks of
this as the inside house in the previous
site without a roof as the outside
house. The boss takes her to a small
bedroom with bars on the windows. Now in
her own space, she starts scheming. When
Anne brings her breakfast, a drink
similar to Ovaltine, Julie swipes the
spoon and tucks it into a hole in her
mattress.
And whenever I was by myself, I had this
great idea that I could with my spoon I
could chip away the cement. And I did
that. I worked on that a lot, but didn't
help at all. I had two bottles and I
filled them up when there was water
coming out of the spout in the bathroom
and I used them to do like bicep curls.
I was really truly terrified that they
would rip open my door and use me in
front of the pool. And so I practiced
taking that mattress off the bed and I
moved it across the floor up against the
door. I just practiced that. So I did
those kind of things. So, I was kind of
I was busy.
[Music]
John's phone rings
again. It's the kidnappers.
You have 24 hours to have this money in
this account. We are going to be taking
your wife to a new location, and you
might not hear from her or us. if we
don't have that money. There are so many
things that John wants to say to the man
on the phone. He wants to say he'll send
the money. He wants to cry and tell his
wife how much they all miss her. He
wants to beg them to send Julie
home. But he has to stick to the
script. To pay a ransom could put other
travelers at risk. Plus, there's no
guarantee that payment would result in
Julie's
release. An agent writes the word quiet
on a sheet of
paper. John glares at them, but follows
their orders, giving the kidnappers
nothing. He's terrified it will be the
last call. And they hung up and I'm
going out. I cried for 24 hours. the
swary of God.
[Music]
Julie can't understand why Jon isn't
paying the ransom. After more than a
week, the kidnappers have lowered it to
about
$68,000. It doesn't make sense that
she's still here this long. She's been
forgotten. She just knows it. She's
convinced that Jon has gone back to
work. Everyone has gone back to living
their lives.
She feels abandoned and incredibly
alone. The kidnappers are growing
increasingly agitated. Food supplies are
dwindling and Rice is now the main
stay. There were calls coming into the
house for many days. the guy who owns
the house calls were coming into him and
they would bring it to me and it was a
woman on the phone and I thought that it
was this Rotarian who was the Rotarian
president in Kaduna that I had met but I
wasn't totally sure and they asked me
the same three questions each time. Are
you being treated okay? How is your
health? and what are you eating? Every
day it was three questions. And each
day, each night, I would tell her, "I
think I have
malaria. We have no food. I just want to
go home."
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[Music]
12 days into the ordeal, the phone rings
at the inside house. Julie hears muffled
conversations.
Excitement. Something is happening.
There's talk of collecting money, but
nothing
happens. The next evening, there's new
tension in the air and the guys kind of
started running around. the girl runs
around and they're gathering up all this
stuff and they ran out the door and then
they came back and they said, "Don't
open the door. Don't open the windows.
Don't speak to anyone." And so I was
just sitting there in the dark, not
having a clue what was going
on. She learns later that Christian had
been arrested. He'd gone to collect the
ransom from the woman who had been
calling the house. The woman turned out
to be an agent of Nigeria's state
security service and the ransom drop
turned out to be a sting
operation. His accomplice got away and
word got back to the house that the jig
was
[Music]
up. And then
eventually the two boys came back out
and they said, "We're going to take you
somewhere."
and we went
outside and we started walking and they
just kept stopping alongside the road
and then they would go talk on their
cell phones. Um we were passing people
but then the one time we stopped along
the road and OEO said auntie don't
follow and they ran away and I just
stood there on the side of the road in
the
dark. I had no idea what was happening.
is complete black. Within minutes, a
police officer
approaches. Initially, Julie pushes her
away. For 13 days, the kidnappers had
been feeding her lies that everyone was
out to get her. But then she
relents. She begins to accept that her
ordeal is over.
Over the next day, she's taken to
different police stations where she
gives her account of what happened and
she identifies Christian in a police
lineup. Then finally, accompanied by an
RCMP officer who arrived soon after her
rescue. She boards a plane and flies
home to John, her family, and her
friends. He went through his own hell
and actually his hell was worse than
mine because he didn't know whether I
was going to come back or whether I'd
been tortured. Julie's release makes the
news before John hears about it and his
phone starts ringing. First, there's
elation. But only when he hears Julie's
voice on the phone saying, "I'm okay.
I'm okay." does it sink in. After nearly
two weeks as a hostage, his wife is
coming
home. When Julie's plane lands, John is
waiting for her at the jet bridge. It's
an image he'll never forget. As I often
tell her, I says, "I fell in love with
you twice when we came down the aisle
when we got married and we came down the
aisle and you were rescued.
Julie, who did not end up contracting
malaria, returns home in good health.
After Jon picks her up from the airport
with a group of family and close
friends, Julie enters her house for the
first time since she left for Nigeria.
Everyone who was at the airport came to
our house and there were a whole bunch
of people in our house. Also, the mayor
stopped by. It was just a lot of people.
food being dropped off,
flowers. Everyone had really nice things
to say about me. And you know, you're so
strong, you're so brave, you're so this,
you're so that, and kind of seeing it as
if I'm observing it instead of living
it. Like it's kind of like stepping
outside myself, watching that. That went
on for days, that part. The next day
after after we got home, we kept the
kids out of school and and we just like
sat downstairs just talked, but not so
much talked about
kidnapping. We were just uping it. I
would say as time went on though, it got
better. In the immediate aftermath,
Julie struggles with feelings of
abandonment. Sometimes she has panic
attacks when she's left alone.
John wants to keep her close, so much so
that he stands outside the door while
she
showers. Steph has a breakdown when she
can't reach her mom on the phone one
day. McKenzie, they say, still prefers
not to talk about any of
it. Julie finds healing in sharing her
story.
She travels to Rotary clubs to talk
about the ordeal and raise funds to help
women in Nigeria who suffer from a
condition called obstetric fistula, a
debilitating injury that can occur
during
childbirth. Despite her harrowing
experience, she makes it clear that she
has no regrets. A month after her
homecoming, in a letter of thanks to
Rotary members, she writes, "I want
Rotarians to know that I still believe
that the group's study exchange program
is the best vehicle to promote cultural
understanding and peace. It is second to
none in shortening the distance between
two countries. To her relief, the group
study exchange team from Nigeria still
travels to Canada, although the trip is
pushed back a couple of months. For a
Guinea, one of Julie's hosts you heard
from earlier, the visit makes a profound
impression. Canada is the first place
he's been where people don't always lock
their doors or windows. To this day, he
still tells his children about what he
saw. Mankind is one. Everybody was on
peace with each other.
After such a traumatic experience, some
people might have lost their way. Julie
seemed to find hers. As she learned
about the people who fought for her, she
was deeply moved by the goodness of
humans. The outpouring of love and hope
that came from around the world was so
uplifting and I wasn't even aware of it
of course that it was happening to John
my husband for my family and for our
community. An example of that would be
when I was still kidnapped in Kaduna.
They had a gathering and over 10,000
candles were lit and just the coming
together of all the people that way
really inspired me. I had people reach
out from all over the world after I got
home. One was a woman that I know who
was in university in Australia and she
had a whole entire university. All of
the people involved in the university
were praying for me. There was another
person that I met at a conference and he
said, "I'm actually a bishop from Mexico
and we had prayer circles for you." And
so there was just this movement going on
for peace really. Like yes, my name was
attached to it, but it was just
something so much deeper.
Back at Rotary Headquarters 2, senior
leaders up to the general secretary were
deeply involved throughout the
emergency, reviewing updates from the
RCMP with their crisis team and staying
in contact with Canadian Rotarians
directly supporting the family. Their
efforts were bolstered by staff members
at Rotary, whose responsibilities
included monitoring the safety of global
travel and assisting with
emergencies. Throughout her life, Julie
had participated in countless service
projects to help others. Now, she found
herself on the receiving end of others
kindness. It ignited something inside of
her to do more, to not hold back. I
thought our traveling was done and
that's when our traveling doubled.
Within months, Julie and John traveled
to Cuba. The next year, they did a group
biking trip in China. In 2012, they
raised money to build a school in Nepal
and traveled there with a Calgary West
Rotary Club, trekking to a base camp on
Mount Everest. And in 2013, Julie joined
other Rotarians in administering polio
vaccines to children in India. But she
also needed people to see her as a whole
person, a complex human, someone who is
more than a kidnapping victim. Living in
a small town, that was hard. The motto
of Drayton Valley is literally pulling
together. And everyone had done just
that when she was a hostage. But in the
after era, she was struggling with that
identity. In line at the grocery store,
strangers would commend her for being so
brave. In her job as a financial
adviser, the veil between professional
and personal felt permanently
removed. She tried therapy. Mostly she
found herself on a quest for
authenticity. She threw herself into
yoga, a practice she once despised, but
learned to appreciate for the focus and
strength it
demanded. She decided to become a yoga
instructor. In 2017, they moved to
British Columbia to the stunning town of
West Colona where the mountains and
lakes were teeming with the promise of
adventure and serenity.
there. Her life has become full and
rich. She loves paddle boarding in the
morning. She plays pickle ball and
gardens. When she and John aren't
traveling, they're hosting friends and
family. And they found yet another
family at the Rotary Club of
Colona. Of course, she has emotional
scars. I still every once in a while
will still do it. I'll just sit straight
up in bed like just out of a dead seat.
sits straight up and I'll start talking.
So, I think those are kind of byproducts
of that. She's also highly sensitive to
other people's suffering. One time we
were riding our bikes and we came across
this motorcyclist who had been hit and
he was lying on the ground instantly
sobbing. finally got myself together
enough to get back on my bike riding
along and then the ambulance comes going
towards this accident and again like so
it's a huge trigger for me and I don't
know whenever it's going to happen and
it's almost this empathy that I can
place myself in their shoes of being so
terrified even scenes in movies can
trigger feelings of distress and leave
her sobbing and She can't stand to hear
the TV at a loud volume. The kidnappers
had always had the television blaring at
the inside
house. But other things conjure more
positive
associations. When she was held hostage
at the inside house, she would eat a
mango every so often, a welcome change
from regular meals of rice. Today, the
fruit holds a special place. When I bite
into a mango, I am transported always.
And there's just something I don't know,
something hopeful about it in a weird
way. Perhaps most surprising, she thinks
fondly of Anthony and Oyo. They were not
among the four people imprisoned over
the abduction, and she wonders what
they're doing now. She remembers how
even in the worst moments when she
wasn't sure she would live, she saw the
boy's vulnerability and their bravado
and knew they were just kids doing what
they thought they needed to do to
survive. Julie made it a mission to meet
and thank the law enforcement officials
involved in her case. traveling as far
as Jordan, where one of the agents was
based. It's as though she was trying to
show them, too, that she's more than
Julie Mulligan, the kidnapping victim.
Ryan, who went on to become a chief
superintendent with the RCMP, remembers
an email from Julie nearly 10 years
after the
ordeal. She and John were traveling to
Ottawa, where Ryan's based, and wanted
to know if they could take him and his
wife to dinner. Of all the hostage
taking investigations he'd overseen,
this was the only one that led to a
personal meeting afterward. Ryan's wife
still speaks about it to this
day. For Steph, watching her mother
march on is
inspiring. Hard things don't need to
take you down. She couldn't control that
she was kidnapped, but she can control
what she does after. She did not stop
traveling. She did not stop going out of
her front door. If you ask Julie, she'll
tell you that her family bore the brunt
of the trauma. Outside of those brief
phone calls, they never knew if she was
alive. For all of them, it's been a long
recovery, but Julie likes to think
they've come out stronger. Definitely
changed my life. It changed my family's
life for sure, but I like to think that
it was for the good. I feel that life is
a little
sweeter when you know how quickly it can
be taken away.
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