President Trump Participates in a Bilateral Meeting with the Prime Minister of Italy, Apr. 17, 2025

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Thank you very much everybody. And I've
been briefed on the Florida State
University
Tallahassee active shooting. I guess
it's an active shooter. Uh fully briefed
as to where we are right now. It's a
shame. It's a horrible thing. Horrible
that things like this take place and
we'll have more to say about it later.
In the meantime, it's an honor to have
the prime minister of Italy with us,
Prime Minister Maloney, who's uh doing a
fantastic job. I would say that she has
taken Europe by storm and highly
respected. Everybody loves her and
respects her and I can't say that about
many people. and uh she's become a
friend and we really have a great
relationship uh between Italy and
ourselves and we talked about trade, we
talked about many many things during our
lunchon and
uh she'll be saying a few words but
she's a very special person and it's
nice to have you with us. Thank you very
much. Thank you very much Mr. President.
Thank you for your warm welcome. Thank
you for this occasion which is aimed to
strengthen our relation, our friendship
that comes from very far. You know,
today is April 17th and April 17 marks
the anniversary of the uh agreement that
allowed Christopher Columbbo to make his
trip. And I say to remember how ancient
are our ties, but also to remind that we
both share another fight which is the
fight against the uh war and
ADI ideology that would like to erase
our history and as I know that uh we
share lots of uh things on tackling
illegal migration uh on uh uh fighting
against synthetic drugs. You know Italy
has been one of the nation that made a
plan against fentinel for example but we
have been talking about many uh
bilateral uh topics and things that we
can do together right about uh defense
about economic uh uh about economy about
space about energy
uh Italy will have to increase it uh its
uh LNG imports
uh and also nuclear that we are trying
to develop. I think there can be ways to
work together and the Italian
enterprises will
uh invest as they've been doing for many
years as you know in the next years I
think around 10 billions. Uh that shows
how interconnected our economies are and
that's very important Mr. president.
It's not only about Italy, it's about uh
the entire Europe. The exchange between
us is uh uh is a very big one. uh uh
investments uh trade uh it's a topic
that we are discussing in this week but
at the end of the day look somebody
calls me I was saying it before such a
western nationalism I don't know if it
is the right word but I I know that when
I speak about west mainly I don't speak
about a geographical space I speak about
the
civilization and I want to make that
civilization stronger so I think even if
we have some problems Okay. Uh between
the two shores of the Atlantan ticket as
the time that we try to sit down and and
find solutions. So I want to thank
President Trump for uh having accepted
an invitation to pay an official visit
to Rome in the in the near future and
consider the possibility in that
occasion to meet also with Europe. Uh
the goal for me is to make the West
great again. Okay. And I think we can do
it together. we can uh and and uh uh we
will keep on work on on that. I I'm I'm
going to close. I want to say only I'm
proud of sitting here as prime minister
of an Italy that today
uh has very good uh as a very good
situation despite the difficulties a
stable country reliable country 1
million more jobs in the last two years
and a half. Great. Uh inflation is going
down. So you forgive me if I promote a
bit my country but you're a businessman
and you understand me. So migration
flows going down 60%. So we are trying
to do our best but I think we can do it
even better together. Also on Ukraine I
will close uh together we've been
defending the freedom of Ukraine.
Together we can build a just and lasting
peace. We support your efforts to good.
Thank you. Thank you very much. And I
think we're doing well in that effort,
but we want to get it done and we'll see
if we can. We want to save on average,
think of it, every week 2,500 people are
being killed, mostly soldiers, Russian,
Ukrainian soldiers. And if we can save
those lives, that'll be a very good
thing. And so we'll see what we can do.
And I think we're getting close, but
we'll we'll let you know very soon. And
you've been very helpful. I appreciate
it. Thank you. Any questions?
Russ, how much longer does Vladimir
Putin have to respond to your ceasefire
proposal before you put secondary
tariffs or sanctions on Russia? We'll
see what that will be. Uh we're going to
be hearing from them uh this week uh
very shortly actually and we'll see. But
we want it to stop. We want the death
and the killing to stop.
On Jerome Powell, on Jerome Powell, you
said that the termination of Jerome
Powell cannot come fast enough. He says
he won't leave even if you ask him to.
Oh, he'll leave. If I ask him to, he'll
be out of there. But I I don't think
he's I don't think that I don't think
he's doing the job. He's uh too late.
Always too late. Little slow. And I'm
not happy with him. Uh I let him know
it. And uh oh, if I want him out, he'll
be out of there real fast. Believe me.
Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead, please.
Question. Are you trying to remove him,
Mr. President? Yeah. Question.
Judge against your
administration. Do you agree with that
state? Well, you're going to have to
speak to the lawyers. We have great
lawyers. Uh I can tell you this. We're
doing a fantastic job of getting
criminals out of this country who Biden
allowed into the country. hundreds of
thousands of criminals, murderers and
drug dealers. And I was elected because
of the fact, I would say maybe that was
the number one fact for a lot of
reasons, the economy, a lot of things.
But one of the primary reasons I was
elected is because I said, I'm going to
get the criminals that he allowed to
come into our country so stupidly
through open borders. I'm going to get
them out. And I got a lot of votes,
record setting numbers of votes. As you
know, we want everything. The popular
vote, all seven swing states, we want
everything. And uh that's what the
public wanted. That's what I'm doing.
But you'll have to speak to the lawyers
because it's up to them.
What do you think of the proposal from
France and UK of a peace mission um in
Ukraine with soldiers? And do you think
that Italy should take part?
Well, I think Italy will have to make
that determination, but peace missions
are always good with me. I'm okay with
peace missions. Yeah, please.
We discussed it very briefly. No, we're
doing very well with negotiations, I
think, with all countries and uh Scott
could uh tell you a little bit, but we
are doing very well. We have a lot of
countries that want to make a deal.
Frankly, they want to make deals more
than I do. Go ahead, Scott. Would you
say something, Chris? Yeah, we've got a
process in place. We're working on the
the big 15 economies. First, we had a
fantastic meeting with Japan yesterday.
I believe there's been calls with the EU
already. And then we have South Korea
coming in next week and I believe India
is also talking that's moving very
quickly.
Ukraine.
President China is supplying weaponry or
ammunition to Russia. Do you have any
evidence on those? And also he said we
could see a mineral deal signed this
week. Well, we have a minerals deal
which I guess is going to be signed on
Thursday, Scott, next
Thursday. And uh I assume they're going
to live up to the deal. So, we'll see.
But we have a deal on that. Uh, no. I
have no comment on that. I have no idea.
That's his statement, not mine.
Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear
facilities. Can you comment on that? Is
that accurate?
And they said the attack is what? That
you waved off an Israeli plan to attack
Iranian nuclear facilities. Uh, I
wouldn't say waved off. I'm not in a
rush to do it because I think that Iran
has a chance to have a great country and
to live happily without death and I'd
like to see that. That's my first
option. Uh if there's a second option,
uh I think it would be very bad for
Iran and I think Iran is wanting to
talk. I hope they're wanting to talk.
It's going to be very good for them if
they do. And I'd like to see Iran be
thrive in the future. do fantastically
well. I know the Iranian people. They're
incredible people. Always have been very
smart, very energetic, very successful
people. And I don't want to do anything
that's going to hurt anybody. I really
don't. But Iran can't have a nuclear
weapon. It's, you know, pretty simple.
It's really simple. We're not looking to
take their industry. We're not looking
to take their land. We're not all we're
saying is we you can't have a nuclear
weapon. The deal that was made, the deal
that was made with Obama, that deal
would have expired already. It was a
terrible deal. It was a It was would
have expired and that gave them a clear
path to a nuclear weapon. I wouldn't
have accepted. That's why I terminated
the deal. Number one, it was way too
short. You know, when countries are
involved, you don't make short-term
deals. These are countries with long
lives. And uh I terminated that and it
was a great termination because it
didn't allow us to do anything once it
terminated. You know what the deal was?
It was a terrible deal. Really one of
many terrible deals made by the US. Uh
but no, I want uh I'd like to see Iran
thrive and they can do that I think very
easily or they can do it the other way.
The other way is not going to be good
for them. It's going to be really bad
for them.
What do you make of the CEO going to
China with the trade officials there?
Well, Jensen's an amazing guy. He's
become a friend of mine and I don't
know. He's a person that's very proud of
our country. He loves our country. I'm
not worried about Jensen at all.
Mr. contempt, will you take steps to
return Kilaro Garcia to the United
States and put him in front of a judge?
Well, I'm not involved in it. I'm going
to respond that by saying you'll have to
speak to the lawyers, the DOJ. I've
heard many things about him and uh we'll
have to find out what the truth is. But
I will say this, you know, we're we were
inundated by millions of people, many
millions of people during the Biden
administration. They say 21 million. And
a big percentage of those are criminals,
serious criminals. I'm not saying just
criminal because they came into the
border illegally. I'm saying they're
criminals at the highest level,
murderers. Many of those people murdered
more than one person and they're on the
loose. And I was elected to get rid of
those criminals, to get them out of our
country or to put them away, but to get
them out of our country. And I don't see
how judges can take that authority away
from a president. We've done an amazing
job. Tom Hullman, Christine M. We have
done an amazing job. Nobody can believe
the job we've done. Far greater than
what I said. I mean, I got elected on
that, but we've done much better. We
have right now 99% border. It's a 99%.
Nobody thought that would even be part
Nobody's coming through our border
practically. Uh, two weeks ago we had
nine people come through all for medical
reasons. We allowed them. We brought
them through because one had a heart
attack, one had something else. All for
medical reasons. We have a great border.
We had a great border four years ago,
but we have a border now that's even
tighter. And we did that in a matter of
weeks. And uh no, we have to we need we
need to get murderers and drug dealers
and people that were in jail for
horrible, you know, they released
jails Georgia from all over the world.
They released them not just South
America, all over the world. The Congo
and Africa. Many, many people come from
the Congo. I don't know what that is,
but they came from the Congo and all
over the world they came in, opened
their jails.
Venezuela, practically all of their
prisoners released into our country. We
took them because we had an incompetent
administration called the Biden
administration and to think what they've
done to our country. And I was elected
to straighten that out and I'm doing
that. But we have activist judges that
don't want murderers to be sent out of
our country. They don't want killers and
drug dealers and drug lords and people
from mental institutions. They want them
to stay in our country. I guess I don't
know. Maybe that's the liberal way or as
they call it nowadays, the progressive
way. But I don't think it's the way that
our country believes. And that's why I
won in a landslide.
Mr. President, you did say that you were
confident these deals will be done. But
you also said that you're in no rush.
Americans are seeing prices rise.
They're seeing it on their bills. How
long can they expect that painting to
last? So, uh, they've already seen it
get much better because if you were
truthful, which you're not, you know, I
know you very well. Uh, you have
gasoline that hit a dollar 98 yesterday
in a couple of states. You have
gasoline's way down. The price of oil
has dropped substantially. Uh the price
of groceries are substantially down. The
uh the price of eggs, you know, when I
came in, I they hit me with eggs. I just
got there. I was here for one week and
they started screaming at me, "Eggs have
gone through the roof." I said, "I just
got here. I was there for seven days and
I hear that eggs have gone through the
roof before I got there." And they were
screaming at me. The press, the fake
news, like you you're fake. And the fake
news is screaming at me like about eggs.
I said, "I've only been here. I just
This is my seventh day." And they were
right. They went up 87% and you couldn't
get them. They said, "You won't have
eggs for Easter," which is coming up.
Happy Easter, everybody. You won't have
eggs for Easter. And we did an
unbelievable job. And now eggs are all
over the place. And the price went down
92%. And our commissioner of
agriculture, Brooke, has done a uh
fantastic job. Did really done a
fantastic job. So prices haven't gone
up. The only thing that's gone up
actually is interest rates because we
have a Federal Reserve chairman that is
playing
politics. Somebody that I've never been
very fond of actually. But uh he's
playing politics. Interest rates should
be down now. They should be coming down.
Uh in Europe, as you know, they reduced
him I guess seven times. It looks like
they're going to reduce them again and
again and again. But our guy wants to
play cute. But
uh interest rates are pretty much even.
Maybe they went up just a slight bit,
but that's the only thing. But that's
because of the Federal Reserve because
they're not very smart people.
Go ahead. Yes, sir. Please. Go ahead.
Please. Nominating him.
Uh look, in the first four years, we had
the greatest economy in the history of
our country. Stock market went up 88
points. Uh, I think he's terrible, but I
can't complain because we had the most
successful administration economically
in the history of our country. Uh, I
think we're going to do even better this
time because you will see that the
numbers that we're taking in are
astronomical. We're taking in tremendous
amounts of money with the tariffs. We
were treated very unfairly on trade and
countries are get having a hard time
getting used to the fact that they can't
do that to us anymore because we have a
real president. We have a president that
understands what it's all about. We had
presidents that in some
cases were smart, but they didn't
understand business or they didn't like
business or, you know, it wasn't like a
priority. And then you had like the last
administration, the only thing they were
good at was cheating in elections.
That's about all they could do. They
couldn't do anything. They were useless.
They were incompetent. Worst
administration in the history of our
country. Worse than Jimmy Carter. Jimmy
Carter died a happy man. You know why?
because he wasn't the worst president.
Joe Biden
was. So, uh, I think you're going to see
some fantastic numbers when this all
happens. It's happening now. I mean,
everybody wants to make a deal. And if
they don't want to make a deal, we'll
make the deal for them because that's
what's going to happen. We'll just say
this is what it is. But we want to
listen to everybody. And I I think I
think I think I can I think I can say
for Scott and the other people that are
working on it that uh we're listening
and uh we're going to be very fair to
people. But you know, we're the one that
really sets the deal and that's what
we'll be doing. Okay.
Go ahead, please.
Question to the our prime minister. Oh,
you have a great prime minister. You're
so lucky. Yes.
Yes, that's right. Okay. I'm not sure
that what
I I that sounded absolutely That was so
beautiful. What the hell was What did
she say? Please. No, I mean it sounded
great. It was about It was beautifully
presented,
but maybe I could hear what she said,
please.
Go ahead.
Hold it. Hold it. Have some respect,
please. Thank you. No, no, wait. I want
to hear what you said.
Go ahead.
Yeah, President Prime Minister Maloney
was asked whether what she thinks about
the fact that President Trump holds
Zalinski responsible for the the war in
Ukraine. And Prime Minister Maloney
answered,
"Well, actually we um we have a um no
and and and also if you talked about the
military spending, how and the raising
of the military spending and the fact
and the first thing President Prime
Minister Moroni said is that no actually
we didn't talk about the raise of
military spending. Of course, Italy will
keep its commitments with 2% and then we
will see because we are absolutely aware
of the fact that it is very important to
uh to Well, I will do that. Defense is
very wait I will do that. They've been
asking if we raise if we decided another
percentage about the this defense
expanded spendings and I said yes NATO
and I said that Italy is uh reaching the
2% as it it was already decided. We
didn't speak about a spe spe spe spe spe
spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe spe
spe spe spe spe spe specific other
percentage but we are aware of the fact
that defense is important uh for the
future and we see what also the the work
that we are trying to do at the European
level
and I don't hold I don't hold Zilinski
responsible but uh I'm not exactly
thrilled with the fact that that war
started. That was a war that would have
never started if I were president. You'd
have millions of people living right now
that are dead. You'd have cities that
would be open and thriving and they'd
have their beautiful turrets. Those
terrorists are the most beautiful in the
world, but they're not with us any
longer. They're smashed to smitherines
laying on the ground in a million pieces
getting hit by rockets, bombs, and
bullets. And uh so I'm not happy with
him and I'm not happy with anybody
involved. I think it's a war. I know
it's a war. It didn't happen for four
years. It was never close to happening.
It was never even a thought. And I spoke
to President Putin about it a lot. It
was the apple of his eye. But there's no
way he would have ever gone in if I were
president. Now I'm trying to get him to
stop. Uh because as you know, Russia's a
lot bigger. It's a bigger military
force.
And if you're smart, you don't go
involved and get involved in wars that
uh you can blame the man that was
sitting in this seat, Biden. He didn't
know what the hell was going on. But I
can guarantee you that, and everybody
agrees to it, if I were president, that
war would have never taken place. I'm
not blaming him. But what I am saying is
that uh I wouldn't say he's done the
greatest job. Okay? I'm not a big fan. I
really am. I'm not a big fan.
Go ahead. Go ahead. Go
ahead. Are you sure about the definition
of parasite? Would you say again that
European parasite? It's never said.
Would you say again? Have you Have you
said that Europeans are parasites? Yeah.
Have you seen it? No, I haven't said I
don't know what I don't even know what
you're talking about.
Go ahead, please. Go ahead.
No, no, wait. Wait. Next. Next. Next.
Go.
Just said we want to make Europe again.
And we want to do it together. Together.
True. West. Did you I guess that's
that's what you said, Mr. Prime
Minister. Um, how are you going to do
that? And are you looking to do it to
counter
who is really trying to gather influence
against the United States with the help
of I hope that Europe is going to be
great again. Europe is going through a
lot of problems and a lot of it's having
to do with immigration and I'm not a big
fan of Europe uh and what they've done
with immigration at all. And I think
they got to get smart because uh Europe
is being very badly hurt by what they've
done with immigration. Now, I'll say
this that the prime minister has taken a
very tough stand on uh immigration and I
commented to her before. I I said I wish
more people would be like you having to
do with that subject, but uh they're
not. Uh Europe is very important to me.
Europe is very important to the world. I
want Europe to do very well. I think
they have to get a lot smarter on
immigration. But we are we are beginning
do it doing it. You've seen you've all
seen how the the policies of the
European Union in the last let's say two
and a half years have been changing.
Okay. At the beginning we were talking
only about how we were redistributing
illegal migrants coming to Italy. Now we
are talking mainly about how to stop
illegal migration work with the uh
countries of origin and transit and to
return people. uh uh the comm the
European Commission just did the new uh
rules about uh repatriations and things
like that. So things are changing thanks
also to the uh example that Italy
brought in in lowering lowering the
rates of illegal migration. So they uh
we are working now together. So I'm I'm
optimistic on that. Good.
Go ahead. Go ahead. I'd like to ask I'd
like to ask president if you have
discussed the option of studying on
satellite communications and President
Trump if you want to see the Google
company
the Google what the Google what about
Google business
go ahead please oh well we didn't
discuss about about starink uh we we've
been discussing about uh defense space
uh we
We will work together also in the Mars
missions. Uh so there are big big uh
things to do together but we didn't
discuss it.
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Prime Minister that changed your mind
potentially about tariffs and what you
plan to do going forward said to you
that changed your perspective? No.
Tariffs are making us rich. We were uh
losing a lot of money under Biden.
Trillions of dollars. trillions on
trade. And now that's that whole tide
has turned. We're making a lot of money.
We're taking in a lot of money. Don't
forget we're taking in 25% on cars, 25%
on steel, 25% on aluminum, 10%
baseline. We put penalties on China for
sending us fentinol. We put penalties on
Mexico and Canada, 25% for for uh
allowing fentinol and allowing the
borders to be
weak. No, we're taking in billions and
billions of dollars while I sit here and
talk to you. And we didn't do we didn't
take in anything before other than the
tariffs that I put on previous to Biden,
which were the tariffs I put on China
where we took in up until this point
probably $700 billion. They were trump
tariffs. He tried to weaken them. He did
everything he could. You know, he got
paid money by China, right? Family got
paid money. He did. And uh so I don't
know, maybe that was the reason or maybe
it wasn't. But he tried to weaken them,
but he couldn't because it was so much
money that his budgets, you know, they
couldn't stand not doing it. But I took
in in the up till this point my tariffs
on China. Nobody ever took in 10 cents
from China. No other president took in
10 cents. I took in more than $700
billion dollars from China. So, we're uh
we're doing very well. I mean, our our
country is doing very well. They had a
bad report today from one of the healthc
care companies that had an impact on the
stock market. But this isn't about that.
This is really we're building a base.
We're building a country like no other.
And again, I had the I had the strongest
economy in the history of our country by
far. History of any country probably,
but the history of our country in four
years. And I think this has a chance to
be much better.
Will that be signed here at the White
House with Ukraine on Thursday? Will be
coming here for that? I don't know
exactly. I'm going to leave that to
Scott. What do you think? Where would it
be signed and when? We're still working
on the details. We're shooting for
around April 26th. Is there any more
detail that you could tell us about
what's in that deal and how it came
together?
It's substantially what we agreed on
previously. When the president was here,
we had a memorandum of understanding. We
went straight to the big deal and the uh
I think it's an 80page agreement and
that's what will be signed. President
Trump
on clarify on can you clarify on rate
cuts? Do you intend to seek Powell's
firing if he doesn't change his chance
on rate cuts or is that is that on the
table or is that Well, I think he should
do the rate cuts because I think uh if
Europe has done it, it puts us at a
disadvantage to Europe. I mean, he plays
right into their hands. So, I think he
should do the rate cuts. We don't have
really inflation now. I just said the
major things are going down. Oil is
great. Oil is way ahead of schedule and
that's because of our policies. But oil
is down into the uh $60 $65 range now
per barrel. And I told you in certain
states we have less than $2 for
gasoline. And uh food is down.
Groceries, as we call it, are down. Uh
other than interest rates, everything's
down. Interest rates are pretty flat.
They're not It's not that they're up,
but we should be better than flat. We
should if he would lower the interest
rate I think it would have a good impact
on that too. But the costs are down. We
have very little inflation. I would say
we have essentially no inflation. Hard
to have inflation when oil goes down and
oil goes down. When when uh Biden came
in, oil went through the roof. That's
what caused our problem. That and his
very dumb spending. But uh when the oil
prices go down and they have gone down a
lot. We've gotten it down really good.
We've opened it up and we've gotten them
down. And that means that uh people
driving cars are going to be paying $2
and $2.50 instead of
$4.50. And you know, even at the end,
they tried they tried just for the
purpose of the election to get it down.
But they had really lost that sucker.
That was really it was not good. But uh
if they had won, oil right now would be
at seven or eight dollars because of
their policy. And we're going to be at
about $2, could be even a little bit
less than that. And you're starting to
see it. So, I don't know how you can
have inflation when oil is has come down
quite a bit. And and uh I would say the
Fed really owes it to the American
people to get interest rates down.
That's the only thing he's good for. And
he would have an effect on that if he if
he if he lowered them. And I think at
some point he will. He's going to have a
lot of political pressure. you know they
are uh political also and I think
there's a lot of political pressure for
him to lower interest rates. Okay.
Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry please. Do you
think that Italy can be your best ally
in Europe and also notice when
only if the prime minister remains the
prime minister can it be our best. She's
she's doing no she's doing a great job
and yeah certainly one of our great
allies not just in Europe anywhere she's
a fantastic person and doing a great job
and our relationship is is great and we
have a lot of Italians in this country I
tell you and they like Trump and they
voted for
Trump thank you very much everybody
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thank
Thank you. Thanks
guys for moving. Thank
you. Thank you.
