How can consciousness, which has no qualities, become a universe with qualities like space and time? What causes things to spontaneously manifest from the absence of anything?
Rupert says that things don't really exist — they appear to exist. From the perspective of the finite mind, which seems to know time and space, causality seems to be the obvious chain of events. The reason you feel that something must have a cause is because you're trying to use the finite mind to understand the infinite and your finite mind is coming up against its own limitations.
But you are imposing that limitation on infinite consciousness and presuming that because causality seems to exist from the perspective of each of our finite minds, therefore it must also pertain to consciousness.
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I do have two questions, but I'm not sure if I've got the energy for the first one.
It's quite late in the retreat.
I'll start with question two, which is an easier one.
How can consciousness, which has no qualities, manifest as a universe with qualities like
space and time?
How can things manifest from the absence of anything?
The answer is they can't.
And they don't.
It's a very good question.
Remember what I said yesterday.
Nothing exists.
Only being is.
Bhagavad Gita says that which is never ceases to be.
That which is not never comes into existence.
In other words, things don't really exist.
They appear to exist.
I don't mean physical things.
Just how can existence seem to be?
Because imagine an empty space devoid of all qualities.
Then imagine that empty space were to spontaneously shudder within itself and create some kind
of vibration or movement.
That vibration or movement would have a form.
But how does the space which has no qualities do anything?
It's like a spontaneous movement of itself within itself.
Imagine an ocean.
It's a bit easier to visualize than an empty space.
Just imagine a completely silent motionless ocean shuddering spontaneously within itself.
It would send a series of ripples through itself.
I just find it really hard to conceptualize spontaneity of things spontaneously happening
caused by nothing in nothing.
Why do you feel that something must have a cause?
I suppose it's just what I'm used to.
It's cause and effect.
I do find that really hard to let go of.
But at the same time, I am comfortable with the concept of nothing existing, of space
and time not being real in the way that we're used to thinking of them as real.
But even so, I don't know how to differentiate the concept of consciousness, which has no
qualities and which is unmanifested, as not either something or nothing.
It's because you're starting, you're trying to use the finite mind to understand the infinite.
And your finite mind is coming up against its own limitations.
You're trying to bring the infinite within the compass of your own finite mind.
You're trying to understand the infinite within the limits of your finite mind.
But the infinite doesn't fit into the finite mind.
So for instance, your insistence that there must be causality from the perspective of the finite mind,
which seems to know time and space, causality seems to be the obvious chain of events.
But you are imposing that limitation on infinite consciousness and presuming that because causality
seems to exist from the perspective of each of our finite minds, therefore it must also pertain to consciousness.