The REAL Life Of An Instagrammer with India Moon

[Music] to another podcast today we have another special guest with us don't introduce yourself hi i'm india moon India is an instagramer yeah that's not what you would call yourself Instagram a blogger yeah yeah instagrams domain isn't it yeah yeah massively long have you been doing that um I want to say a year and a half yeah but I stopped for a bit when I started yeah I started and then I did about three four months and I was like no you know what I'm gonna stop for a bit I'm not sure like really why I want to continue of it and then I had a bit of time out and kind of just mess around at photos and things like that and then I was like you know what I'm gonna actually like launch my blog so that's when I started like WordPress blog and did more writing at the time and then I really enjoyed the writing back then when I had a bit more time yeah yeah where it started and then I just went into photos in fashion yeah on Instagram so you get a different outfit every single day which like completely baffles me because I don't know how you managed to have 30 outfits a month but a different like it's pretty much out the other day it's about 72 outfits for three months Wow and I was like do by all these or the brands help you out with that or it was buying and was lovely Miss Selfridge were like my first brand I worked with he's a gifting from them and was like my heaven yeah and I worked at Topshop so Topshop was where I got like all my discounted tow so majority of my place back then were all Topshop yeah it was like ideal and and then yeah and then it just kind of slowly started become a bit more collaboration and stuff and at the moment luckily I'm not actually buying anything so which is really nice obviously I buy like the odd thing if I feel like that's kind of an outfit I want to try out and yeah it's my own style yeah but usually brands that you have quite a lovely way with what you choose you bought your audience up are you on 18 something thousand yeah 18 point yeah and that's quick like 10 K which wasn't that long ago if you're so slow for me really yeah anyway it for me is like I think - 18 K maybe not that's not quite quick but - 10 K was very slow okay like will it ever go anywhere but then you just have to remember to have fun with it yeah that's it I'm not worried too much about the numbers 18 K and I was like yeah no I don't want to look because otherwise and I obsess about it yeah a kiss-off happen yeah and you like likes and obviously all of that there's nothing you can do yeah calm what else you can engage but you can't control yeah do you think about the engagement at the moment it's a lot of people are sort of talking about the algorithm in it not being as good as it may be I asked Ben before I even noticed a definite drop in it yeah but yeah it's been a bit crap for me the last few weeks and then yeah fluxes and becomes really great again and then goes down again and is that likes and comments yes likes massively there for me it completely really varied and I think with the fact that I post three times a day it's challenging anyway yeah obviously that's the way I post and I've been trying to work out whether three times or two times okay it visually looks great doesn't rain but then I guess it's the same out for three times it's I mean if people are settling it yeah yeah just do the same yeah I think you're gonna say do the same people who like the first photo time like the third photo sometimes yeah and then sometimes people miss the middle photo so they miss the second post the day and then I try and obviously make the images different yet all different angles or close-ups which is what I'm kind of experimenting a bit more with math I think a lot of the time people like oh I didn't see that yes because it's placed it at one nor twelve and then the same kind of times each day yeah I know evening one yeah it depends on the day so like weekdays 8:00 a.m. every morning works best for me and weekends like 11 yeah [Laughter] no engagements being a bit slow I think I noticed when I engage a lot that I do see it a change but it's such a lot effort when you're working on a lot of other stuff either oh yeah with like university I just can't wait to finish yeah cuz yeah you're a student as well what are you studying I'm studying digital film production yeah which is cool in fact at Brighton ninis no it's in London oh so it's a university called SAE Institute which is like a really small private Institute yeah that basically does film audio music based off but don't go there oh no why yeah we're just in the process at the moment of like going for a lot of complications at them anyone that wants to go so that you need don't do it yeah you might elaborate yes I avoid yeah and basically they the course that we've been enrolled on what they kind of offered to us wasn't what we expected as soon as we started our teacher left so after two weeks that helps yeah that helps okay and then a few weeks after that like it's just being lack of teaching they haven't taught us what we needed and then about six months ago we lost like both our teachers decided to leave who in the industry because of just how like badly run it was I think management were fired so for my dissertation we've had no support that's no it's interesting and that brings onto a good topic actually because we always chat amongst just ourselves even off podcaster stuff about like schools and universities and stuff and other opportunities you can now create for yourself online and stuff like that so where are you doing like Instagram and stuff but when you decided to go to uni no so it's like yeah and I've been like I wanna do media I'm gonna be film originally I was like I want to be a producer so I took two years out to kind of be like what do I want to do travel a bit and then I was like oh do you know what like I might as well see if as a university that suits me so I looked for a long time and found one that was two years instead of three years and I was like that's four more for me cuz it's quite intense and means I can get it done yeah I think that industry it's a lot about working your way art yeah and kind of about hands-on experience so for me it was going to this uni to kind of get that hands-on experience and learn a bit more about like all the areas because film is so big and I don't think obviously when you're going into like doing the camera work or the film work I was never like okay I don't know what the lighting people are doing and I want to know what they're doing and I want to know more like a bit about what everyone like aspects like of the costume design and things like that so that was the reason I went originally and kind of to meet new people and stuff like that but I feel maybe the two year intense course has been more challenging than I expected yeah like crammed in and commuting to London's being hard on top of like falling into Instagram I think yeah I kind of lack of motivation at uni because of how it's being has pushed me towards that which is also like a really nice thing yeah so is what you're studying and what you thought you wanted to do when you start is that still what you want to do or if you kind of hang really yeah I still want to do film I still want to do like videoing and travel content yes originally when I started I was like I always want to go and create awareness videos and do that which I will do yeah but going from my producer I don't want to do producing no I don't think I want to try like creative directing but maybe on like photoshoots and styling yes that's how it's kind of so I think for me that's the change yeah any working anymore no easy just Instagram yeah yeah I decided that with my dissertation work that I'm doing just because of like the lack of support I think I think of any uni people might have lack of support and there is it's not really there but I think for me I struggled massively being like dyslexic and finding writing really challenging that I've been like okay I need to like drop one thing so many people now who want to get into being creative or whatever whether that's on Instagram YouTube and stuff of that and they don't in our opinion it you don't have to go and study it you can just do it you can start yourself create opportunity for yourself almost have nothing yeah do you kind of agree with that yeah definitely it's pretty it's pretty amazing that you can do your own thing and step back and kind of create everything in front of you and you kind of become your own business like in itself yeah and I love that I love being my own right yeah and I think a lot of people think for me one of the challenging things is when you're going into it and you're growing a lot of people don't understand the amount of work that goes into it oh yeah we do I think when you're in it it's great and I love what I do but I think a lot of people don't realize the amount of time they just think you're taking a photo that's it yeah 100 cent get free stuff yeah Center and then some get to do this so naturally it's like the whole brand pitching I think I spend majority of my life on emails just fine but I think a lot of like I love my I can't say who but I've had people would comment me and say oh like so it's just free [ __ ] and you just get to see that must be really like they kind of find jumping on over say amen and then they realize that they're not because they haven't built anything I poop at the time and they just want to do it the free stuff and in a couple of weeks at go on and they're not doing any more coin lucky to get that I also feel like you've created you've not stumbled upon it and it's like oh that someone said me saying for nothing like you've put work yeah no I feel like when I sat down without my boyfriend and like close friends they can see why yeah and I'm sure the same of you guys like people around you yeah who are watching you guys do it I mean I can see it and I'm yeah but yeah I think a lot of people don't pretty take that into consideration do they and a lot of people say to me like oh how do I get free bikini looking through your comments and stuff you get a lot of positive really positive comments from other pages similar to yourself or other people doing a similar thing to you stuff do you much negativity because obviously people that social media gets a bad press and often that we've got our own opinions about that we're kind of like off the mindset just choose what you consume motivate you and all that kind of stuff so do you get much negativity on your content I've only had one negative comment really yeah which was like being a private message which I've been like really lucky to have and I don't even get like weird guys never had any of that I think it's because sounds really awful but I do go for you like who follows me and yeah if I'm not feeling like happy with that a guy maybe spamming an account like they will block this well cuz I don't that's good on my page so you go through 18,000 no I don't know but like if now and then like yeah yeah people having me and get the odds like weird account but yeah they say negative comments only one there was actually about my like what I was promoting about body confidence on my page and I did a post must be like three weeks maybe even longer like a month ago yeah and I think I was just saying about failing OK in yourself and yeah not actually knowing that people have their own insecurities and just because of the way they look I think a lot of the time everyone's promoting obviously body confidence and embracing yang like having curves and stretch marks and things like that and I think that's incredible and I love that and I think more needs to be like all body types and yeah and I think that needs to be like kind of generated a bit more as well make people realize that I think even looking at my Instagram I think she's fine like she's high for tuned booty and yeah right and then it's like actually there's a lot more to a person that you don't like I only see not like you guys yeah no one else gonna look at me go oh god she looks like that but in my head that's what I was failing so I posted a caption saying that and someone messaged me saying how can you say that though you're tiny you're really skinny and you've got this many followers and you post yourself every day and I was like I completely get like that's how it comes across yeah and I did respond but I didn't respond in like a bad way I'm saying I really like understand where you're coming from but I think there's a lot more to what comes across on Instagram it's only 10 percent of my life exactly I'm surely like if you weren't like if they're saying that saying all you because you post yourself yeah if it was that you weren't happy with yourself and then you're saying I'm not going to post because I'm not happy of myself truly it's a good thing yeah yeah it's when I do the photos I'm not I don't I kind of like don't I'm already in myself and kind of like although I'm actually stealing this outfit I love and like kinda waiting like the location yeah area which is fine and obviously like I don't wouldn't post a photo that I'd necessarily think was like terribly all form which is what I'm trying to like kind of work out and doing more edits that are natural yeah not posting as much stuff that I'm like okay I don't like that but I'm not gonna post it when actually it's probably fine yeah laughing one is fine and like having 100 Chin's but yeah so I guess it's just people's opinions and that made me go oh god that makes me sad that yeah I do like I may come across like that um if you've only had one message I can we've got a friend called binky Hugh had binky be on YouTube she said she does a lot of like relationshipy type stuff isn't she really like honest chat yeah and and she's been getting a lot of hate recently on her Instagram they're putting like Fitness back not workouts but like photos of her in the gym and things and she's quite quite slim isn't she on quite small and people are messaging her going why you and promoting going to the gym and because she's like skinny but surely like it doesn't matter like you don't have to be going to the gym to lose weight could be just good for you and you're toning up or yeah it's just a healthy why is she then getting hate for doing that looking after her body is that yeah people are always gonna have an opinion yeah and Louis I think that's something you have to yes I think it reflects their insecurities person there yeah tacking I guess yeah that's also I guess another reason to which is why I reply cuz I feel really bad that you're feeling like that yeah I just I feel I don't want anyone to feel like that by looking at my photos and go okay I want to be hurt no you don't want to like you live your own life then kind of do that and again like with the gym thing I think a lot of the time I was like I'd like to go into fitness stuff and then I was like I don't know if I can take on that opinion from like the world right now because people do have an opinion and I don't I'm not the body I am just by not doing anything because I do go five times a week watch ye and ya work out and I have to do that from my mind it's not for any advices for me so which is why I haven't shared any of that yet but now that is my own personal like yeah just do it for myself so you're how fussy are you with your content I think we saw a post from you that said you might take over a hundred photos oh I take a lot before choosing the one that gets posted yeah so what I do tell me my dear so I will shoot six outfits one day a week at the moment so I plan all the outfit and usually majority of the locations and like where I'm gonna do them in my head and then say for example at yesterday went out spent about seven six hours doing that just because it's a bit more slow I kind of took my time yesterday and took those photos and then got home I put say one outfit I might have 200 images from one hour but just because a lot of the time I'm moving and I like to have like you ever supposed to go for me to kind of spam it a little bit yeah your leg looks like you're always my another way around it yes that's like naps in between yeah by doing that then when I do like my walking and movement yeah yeah so yeah do that and then I feel too free and she's about 15 yeah that I will then put into my phone yeah I did them and if it's for brands like at the moment I tend to send the brand like unedited versions of that outfit just to say oh here's that if you wanted to make a short change yeah it looks for their percent yeah like no one's gonna want my edit for their socials all the time sometimes I do them quite bright some brands like oh can you send the under yeah I send them over and then I'll choose I mean either way I'm doing quite a lot of swipes yeah usually pick about 15 and then maybe you dance at six yeah so yeah just hop out my phone my whole camera yeah yeah and what do you use to edit so I use one called airbrush actually just to lighten or darken the photos yeah it there's a magic in the corner and that you can do darken or lighten and yeah it also kind of like glows the photo Oh No so I use that for that and then I go on to remember Lightroom yeah use my like preset which I kind of just make up and then Snapseed if there's like a weird drops on the floor yeah someone in the background we don't want you only spend editing one photo I did like seven on the way here yeah yeah I just like because I it's kind of like I'm a robot I'm like just keep yeah because you want it all to look consistent it's like within a theme so you don't want to put too much time into one and it looks nothing like the neck so you want to just have it all ready yes that's what's challenging actually is like lighting on a shoe yes I'm doing like long shots and then close-ups and say it's been raining or sunny and light changes the Edit for that when you're posting your free it's like okay yeah I've tried to stick around like one priests and I've kind of experimented but I find a lot of people with I'm a bit more natural with my priests yes I've done like polls in it I think when I was in Majorca I went like crazy the color of like the sea each location has its own look as well doesn't if you were abroad so you've grown you know you're growing nicely you found success you're making money brands are paying you to post their clothes job yeah it does yeah just because of how full-on it is the hours you're putting in yeah I think since I've left retail and like working at Topshop I've tried to promote myself and pitch myself quite a lot more than I was yes because I was like right I'm gonna go for it I obviously yet money and it's been challenging and I also have so much respect for people that go full-time yes because it is so daunting yeah and for me I kind of felt my comfort blanket is being a student at the moment I'm having like my loan yeah which yes sort of like just keeping me afloat at the moment and being freelance I think a lot of the time I just didn't realize how long it takes the thing money to come in mm-hmm so like sending invoices takes off and the month isn't anything I haven't received a payment in such a long time even though I went for it or my invoices and I was like oh like it's mad the time that it takes to come into your account so it's kind of being stables in it and once you started it you let you all get like a rolling yeah all ready to go for next yeah exactly so yeah I have huge reserve people that do that full time I reckon so many so many people listening to this probably would love to be doing what you're doing what we do yeah is it still something is it something you'd recommend still like yeah but not for the money and not you have to love it oh yeah like not for the money not for like the clothes because it sounds bad but I think after a while like my lover's going out shopping has completely changed because your mindset is different yeah yeah so went from being like what's he doing treating yourself and like buying something and then feeling like you and then now it's kind of like oh I said so much time like styling and I do like so many mood boards yeah I'm like doing like the new end pages yeah say when I'm searching on like new in I constantly will like do mood boards of different pieces and star them together like that so that's where my love for it still is yes don't like creating a whole look but I don't go out and shop anymore it's different there isn't yeah very different to how it has been online yeah yeah it's like that have to be around any people do use I always find that if you don't find anything at all yeah okay so how much of your kind of brand side of it is you go into brands or brands coming to you and do you mean are ours why it's like yeah well like percentage so like do you get do you get those galleries some I just reply in like obviously I check out the brand see whether it's something that I love or he's gonna see me and then I'll kind of pitch myself with my media care if been fast for sistex and I think I know if you wouldn't realize you do that as well it's like working out percentages on everything you do and kind of looking it where your engagement and reaches yeah doing that kind of pitch myself to them but recently like if I'm going away on a trip so I'm going to Italy in September I've kind of created a which basically shows my like inspiration for the trip yeah what I'd love to create and then night from my last trip what I did create Emily that's kind of what I'd send off and I have sent off and said this is what I'd like to do I'd love to do a responsive content or gifting content yeah I'm surrounding their psyche would you be interested and then kind of just wait in here and Eve approached brands yeah I'm like yes that's great because I've been slight proactive about I did I did a thing with a company on its scam recently and it was just like a couple of photos a post they paid me a certain amount and they wanted some photos for their pages as well and instead of just sending the photos I like went on keynote on my Mac and like the nice background on it I did a little bit of writing about it and just made it look nice yes using a bit more surprise I think actually era is worth the money and they feel a bit more yeah and being organized and like I think one thing is updating throughout when you're collaborating with a man yeah like a hundred percent and I think brands really appreciate when I'm like right so I've just shot it today editing tonight reputation is you isn't it yeah your business is you if you can come across something doesn't arrive and it hasn't arrived from time to like letting them know because I think a lot of the time brands if a brand contacts me I know that if they're like oh where are you at I kind of feel it oh god I don't want to do that I'd rather contact them and say okay I just say you know yeah I'm I go I don't want them chasing after me so yeah that's not yeah I do in terms of works yeah so being your own boss and stuff being in charge of your time and all that you're you just love that yes yeah can you see yourself working for a company working a more corporate job in the future can you see yourself doing that now you've had a taste of this really scary yeah like from October so I'm giving myself September off because my dissertations due in like the star and then they go away and then I have my birthday so I was like yeah half the month from everything is focused on Instagram and October was kind of the month I was like I'm going to look for something I just don't know what because I can't physically can't put myself through retail again yeah would you not think that you can carry on with Instagram full-time I do but just because of wanting to go away next year for me having a set rate like income is coming in to save for that just so I know how many months I could technically do when I'm traveling and things like that I feel like it's kind of a good base okay so at the moment I'm debating part-time yeah in part-time somewhere I do like the idea of doing like social media management yeah again that's so much work for someone else's brand when I'd love to be yeah yeah obviously part-time it you it's like for the time say you work part-time work like three days a week yeah that them hours and three days I feel like you could be like smashing what you're doing and probably earning more money you're building yourself more no it's more voracious yeah but I'd be tempted to be like you know what don't so much we're doing a dissertation and you've done so amazingly what you've done so far that when you're not actually having to worry about uni and putting even more working I think you want you've got such a good like work ethic I'm just like go on yet like other content have you like considered vlogging and YouTube 28 August and I'm tempted to disrobe that yes for me like just see where it goes and trial that and then September when I go to Italy I'm gonna vlog like the full thing just as like that's a brand trip lots of work trip in itself anyway so it might be interesting for people to see like behind the scenes that's why we wanted you on the podcast because suddenly were listening probably see profiles like yours on its how does actually do that how does that work behind the scenes why Branson yeah so it's really really interesting questions about how much like payments and media kits like all that and I think that's one of the things that not a lot of people talk about know and that is for me even like I sometimes have to really sit back and go right how much am i charging isn't working out yet my being realistic because no one talks about it enough yeah are you quite shielded about talking about that no I'm I can yeah it's just whether or not I'm a always fella am I getting it wrong but I do it at one percent of my following at the moment so one percent of like so maybe that one hundred and eighty per image that's yeah my charge charge as a madman but mine's quite complicated because I face free yes I makes fun moment I'm trying to work out what I can charge because obviously I'm posting free of the same outfit and brands are wanting maybe that spread out over they don't just want one outfit and then in the same day that's not gonna give them enough coverage or engagement what there are but then if they want you they need to realize that because that's that's how I pitch myself but you have to pitch myself as that is my branding like yeah is what how are you yeah how I learned I mean and we just put photos on it Yugi you don't need videos yeah okay so we've had brands before saying like well we want we don't want to photo or a video about the product and we need to say well no it's not gonna work for us because our audience will be so alienated thinking why is she doing a random video is clearly that they've sort of asked for this and it's out the audience you've got to show me you're gonna be stuck in the middle yeah and that you can't do something that's not gonna work like a lot of the time if a brand like contacts me and it's a product that I maybe would use but I wouldn't share like mine's very fashioned base yeah and like I love beauty stuff as well and every now and then I might do like a selfie makeup but apart from that like it hasn't gone into that massively yet so I think I have to stick with like closes right now as I'm doing but I do from September onwards I have so many ideas my list is can you share a few yeah so and a lot more lookbook Sun heating for me I've got a lot of backlog of like blog posts yeah for like a bit more mental health stuff actually and I'm writing one about anxiety at the moment just from personal experience and being quite lucky to have two parents that are therapists got their support which is lovely but there's so many people I've met that just don't know how to deal with anxiety yeah in always the right way I don't understand it and I think understanding it for me has been such it like a changing point in my life like just understanding what is actually going on with your body yeah you suffered with that yourself yeah yeah so I think stress is where my like whole build-up to anxiety happens yeah dealing with stress and how my body goes into kind of like I kind of got overdrive I didn't really you guys get that with work overwhelmed yeah so for me kind of writing a bit more about and my experiences and hopefully giving interest would you say social media is to blame for a lot of depression and things like that Wow yeah I'm doing social media effects on like mental health and body image so yeah okay yeah learning a lot actually while doing research I think yes and no at the moment it's amazing how many positive things out there on social media that like I honestly follow so many inspiring like females and males that I'm like wow okay you really like made me feel better just in reading a caption or listening to video or something like that and then a lot of time I mean when I stopped when I first started was because I was comparing myself so okay yeah so was free being like am I good enough am I like is this worth doing like does anyone care like I love it enough and yeah you kind of have to bring yourself back from obsessing over other people's journeys or images and be like okay this is my own thing and I kind of see it as that my own little scrapbook and yes and you can document your life on it yeah if anyone wants to read that they can and that's fine if they don't I think that's the key point isn't it like choosing what you consume people want to follow you they kept on yeah if they you know rather than getting annoyed we've had people get an annoyed at our content and like almost like yeah I think that's such a key point I think social media it happens to be a platform where a lot of people are on but I think like that tweet you did the other day about people you know older generations moaning about kids always been on their phones oh yeah and it being the first thing you look at me wake up yeah it's just a way that people can seem information our life that generation would have to grab the newspaper yeah yeah I know it's more interactive and stuff but I think a lot of people should just decide more what they follow well they kind of consume there's so many positives as well like you said like you can spread the word about something like seniors campaigns and stuff about mental health and the fact that people are like happy and what open to chat about it like before you wouldn't probably put a face mist about it yeah yeah you Instagram it's more accepting and Twitter and things because it's like again you choose who you follow and choose your circle and you can actually like spread really bring some messages and I think it's having the strength though to unfollow and I don't think people realize that following all these amazing I mean travel bloggers I follow those of them because I adore their content and like respect like it all and I love it and then there's a lot if you're looking at certain models that may be for you personally may be affecting how you view yourself and I think that's you having to recognize that you're actually doing that and yes sometimes you can do it about realizing that I can be looking at someone and I might say out loud like oh my god wish like I didn't like that yeah and my boyfriend will be next to me like stop doing that and I and then when you say it you're like oh okay yeah sit and do that yeah yeah I think it's kind of acknowledging that you can unfollow people and it's not anything to do with that person but it's not there for words share what they want to share it's not a personal attack thirty's - yeah and I follow so many different like models and there's one in Australia called staff classified in yeah always followed her and I honestly how YouTube video is about her body and she shared was probably the first person I followed and gone Wow okay she looks like that but she's still feeling like she's got her own insecurities and it made me kind of realize like everyone yeah everything how do you think someone's life looks or whatever Instagram is gonna be like cut maybe you at your best isn't it looks like you would but if you like didn't like the way your hair looks you change it before you say yes I need to realize that you're not always not you personally but like people aren't always as amazing as they look on Instagram necessarily yeah just like our videos and stuff like our vlogs ten twenty minute video whatever it's like such a small part of our day really we've chosen what stays in we've been beyond rings around it that people don't see and like yeah a lot more people are sharing like the unedited yeah stuff and there's a lot of people that do choose to share that on their platform yeah it's great like showing like reality versus that which is great and and that for me I've always wanted to like go into but I'm just like how do I show they're not reality when I think some cases people like if someone looked at me for example and saw my not reality photos I've been posing them yeah I think that would be I think I could offend people yes because that's my own insecurities and like some people I look and I go wow that that doesn't you say brave to post that I think it's amazing but for me I'm always like am I like like kind of walking on eggshells if I do this I've got me carry it's crazy yeah someone's opinion on me yeah it'd be different yeah so yeah it's one of those things I really yeah and love that people do share it but it's I think my confidence right now maybe not for me to share I feel ya going more like pace about yeah I think your audience do like looking at your comments and stuff think your audience would like appreciate that yeah relate to it as well I think you're very relatable your stories and I try and just kind of be me yeah a lot of people that I follow like it's like they're in their own bubble when you think like tonight it's a bit unrealistic some of the things but I feel like with you maybe cuz I know you yeah yeah but it's even before that we'd met before I think I followed you a while ago in here you hadn't spoken till you came to like our event properly in your life I'd way and but even with you I feel like it's always felt quite natural and not sort of fake and forced it's quite sort of really not like refresh my life and it's yeah and keep it like just an ally as well who we follow I think you should have like with her illness and stuff how that recently she's been picking that yeah yeah no she works really hard and that she shared that with her audience had the confidence to do that I know how many people are you see the comments how many people that are having the same kind of thing going on I know it's so important if you've got a platform yeah yeah and like a lot of people don't won't want to read that and that's fine but the majority of people that you probably will help yeah would even just be interesting someone to read yeah like I did Dennis the poll saying I would anyone actually want me to write about anxiety yeah and some like it was like I don't know 90 percent yes yeah and I was like oh I didn't realize that that was obviously it's my opinion and I'm not professional and I've got my mum and dad yeah it was more like after speaking to people and being like cuz you don't realize they actually it's not just like anxiety for example is not just to do with like what's going on it could be to do a trauma or you're eating or that you've been sitting down or standing up all day or there's so many different things that can like cause that and obviously there's a lot of underlining from a lot of people like stuff that goes on that is mental health issues and it does cause this but it's also something that's not spoken about to be like okay enough I don't think my people realize that everyone I don't I think I've met maybe all the people I've met over the last few months have had a panic attack or anxiety attack and I'm like wow like didn't realize that many people went through that yeah and just didn't speak about it or just having a happy in Elbert area or just for god am I like going crazy like why do I feel like this yeah and then see ya just comforting the audience to people who follow you are the people who talk about it so you kind of know that even someone who they look up to might be going through similar things and you have big platforms and I'm like thank you for sharing that I guess yeah it's really helped me yeah so hopefully I write it for me as well like everything I write actually helps me obsess something's there yeah I'm going free something I might talk about anxiety and be like right good that's it like a weight off my shoulders but that's only on my blog so people don't have to read it yeah how often are you blogging not a lot of the moment okay I did a post two days ago you know it's just like a little fashion one about like tips in front of the camera huh yeah and but I have a lot like that logged but I take a long time to write and just find it really hard to write I think my writing style is just a bit slower than a lot of people's and I've come to terms of that I think it's been a bit hard to come to terms that I work at like a different speed and terms about writing it will probably take me like a week to get something perfect if actually like just did it every day yeah I was a lot the time I'm kind of back and forth and kind of writing as I go I'm like the train is it smaller following over there was it the same audience or I think it's smaller I mean I've done recently like looked at my statistics for the end I think it's depends on the post and how much I've like promoted it depending on like the reads I'd get yeah things like that I mean when I started I was posting like once a week on there and that was sharing stuff like even my travel stuff I was sharing yeah yeah and that was just like sharing experiences when I did that so that was the height of it then and I hopefully will get back into that like when I graduate it's just yeah my dissertation is quite a chunk of writing what's the plan for you then so you've mentioned about going travelling yeah tell us more about that yeah so my plan is save from October and go in April next year I'm gonna go to Thailand so I start in Thailand with a brand that I work with overdose yeah yes I went to me walk with them she's actually one of my like really close friends now so she owns the bound herself and she's kind of starting up doing blogging trips of us so getting like smaller influences and people who are growing yeah to kind of go on these trips in current content which is amazing so she wants to start in Thailand next year which I'm kind of helping with and so I'm gonna do T weeks first and then I'm gonna go off by myself and hopefully one of my best friends and that she's kind of just gone into styling so DNS where she's at yeah first off because she's doing really well yeah but my plan is to do that and kind of do travel content more like there's a rescue elephant some sanctuary in Chiang Mai yeah and they I went there three four years ago I want to for years when I went and I was kind of blown away by how bad the state of these elephants were in from my resorts like checking resorts and things like that and the family that I spoke to you there they were paying they were paying off these elephants that were like 50 grand per elephant to pay off so I was like recommending all my friends to go and when traveling I was like look into it like don't just go there you might say happy elephant and like home but you know and actually they're not yeah I think it took us about two weeks to actually find one to go to that we knew was rescuing them and yes keeping them like not on a chain in an area and yeah it's sad because they shouldn't be there anyway but they kind of I opened my eyes to like getting more people to go and then unfortunately they one of my friends told me about a year ago they had to let go of one of the boy elephants because the circus wanted the baby one back but the baby and the mum the family didn't want to separate so they had to in like exchange two that they can pay off and this family living in Harts right and just everything going into these elephants so yeah that was a bit eye-opening and made me want to go back and hopefully do filming all my footage for them to kind of raise money and so fingers crossed do that that's like one of my first ideas going there and then obviously day more like travel content and kind of more experiences of what to do when you're there and I think a lot of the time when I first went to Bangkok I was like wow culture shock crazy and my friend was like right we're going to an island like we need to get you out of here yeah yeah and yeah it kind of allowed me to see that that is okay to go away I think a lot of people create a lot scared going by yourself or going with one other person and that there's so much you need to know and actually it's so ok just yeah obviously be aware that you would be in London on my house like I don't Sharon be like stupid yeah there's a lot of like tips and tricks and I think learning about what the travel stuff out there is expensive to travel and not a lot of people told me that so for me personally I was like okay getting to island island is more expensive than people say and kind of like vlogging that I guess and showing that you can it's fine it's safe I'd like to enjoy all these places and there's loads of like yeah everyone's changing I think a lot I mean my friend just went back to the place we went in Bali and it's been pretty much like all concrete like the beach is now concrete she's showing me photos and I was like oh my god I was like heartbroken slightly for anything you need to go and see these faces yeah see ya travel in Australia yeah I don't know kind of from saying four or five months at the moment I mean I'd like to go forever but yeah like we've done it before like we've done I when I for like two and a half months any human away for three months and we've done that for our relationship and he's just about to start uni say drag them out there all the best like good luck with your stuff and thanks for coming on just to end off yeah give audience some value who might want to start doing similar things to what we'll do have you got like one or two like top tips or things to things to look out for or have anything firstly sounds really cliche but actually be yourself and take a step back if you feel like you're getting wrapped up in everything else yeah everyone else's journey rather than your own and just go for it and love it yeah and if you don't love it then don't do it because it's no there's no point you've got I love it yes what's your Instagram handle India main underscore that's great [Music]