40x60 Shop - Part 1: The Design

welcome to my new shop this is the first video shot in the shop I guess you could say on the shop this is the concrete slab for my new shop and it was poured 3 four weeks ago it's been a while so why are you just now seeing it that's a wonderful question and I think I know the answer the answer is I have not been publishing on this YouTube channel the last video I published on this channel about this whole property series was historic Aerials I believe that was the one historic Aerials and in the background a while ago I created a new YouTube channel for the inevitable the inevitable being YouTube's analytics telling me that this particular content the homestead content this property content just isn't a good fit for a dedicated woodworking Channel I knew it was coming and eventually I um I just said enough is enough and let's get the other channel going so I started a new channel called BPO 3 Homestead bpo3 stands for baates Party of Three when my wife and I adopted our little girl uh our little girl Tyler K life changed life was just been so much more amazing since then and it was also one of those we kind of had that realization like oh wait a minute now like if you go to a restaurant or something there's a table weight for for instance be like uh yes baites Party of Three your table is ready we just always thought that that was such a milestone for us baates Party of Three so that's the reason behind the name bpo3 Homestead I'm going to continue to publish much more frequent content on that channel just because I'm recording what I do anyway so that particular type of content is just easier for me to produce and since then I believe it's been about 3 weeks that I've only been publishing over there I'm trying to average about three videos per week and in those 3 weeks I think there's actually 10 videos that you may not know of that are all over there now they're not woodworking videos so if you subscribe to this channel just because of woodworking I very much appreciate that and I'll try my best to get back to woodworking as soon as I can on this channel I have no intentions to stop producing videos for this J Bates YouTube channel jcustom creations.com I'm not abandoning woodworking content however life is awesome I've got so many possibilities in life right now we're developing this proper just just so many things to do and they're all outside and I I'm an outdoors person at heart I love being outside so I'm also not going to stop producing videos for my Homestead Channel now so there you go if you want to see just woodworking content keep keep being keep your keep your subscription here if you want to see more stuff that I've got going on in life well consider subscribing to that other channel so with that out of the way let's jump on the computer and talk about what will be assembled on top of this space either next week or the week after real quick also you may have noticed I'm taking some of these trees down well actually I'm being forced to take down all of these trees explanation on the other channel now let's jump into the computer Windows is being goofy and won't recognize my good microphone so I'm talking into my phone which means you're probably going to hear my dog snoring or shaking or whatever the dog does cuz that dog cannot stay quiet anyway welcome to SketchUp and let's look at my future shop the shop itself is a 40t by 60t welded together red Iron steel structure inside the main shop part I'll have r10 insulation nothing super awesome but a little bit of insulation like I said previously this shop space will not be heated and cooled and I am perfect ly okay with that it might be heated with a wood stove eventually but definitely not this winter and I don't think it'll ever be cooled there goes the dog I don't think it'll ever be cooled because two reasons number one I just don't want the bill of cooling 2400t of space as as well as the bill of making the installation much greater I just don't want that number two I'm going to be outside way more at this property than I ever was previously so so going from the hot outside to the air condition inside to the hot outside to the air condition inside to the hot outside back and forth and back and forth that is just miserable so I'm not going to do it uh so anyway 40x 60 shop uh we do have a 20ft by 60t lean to on the West Side uh you see these boxes here these are not to scale I don't know exactly what size beams that will be used uh but every one of the 60t spans need needs one of these structural beams every 20 ft on Center so that's where those are going to be and I know they're going to stick into the shop just a little bit so I just wanted something there to let myself know like uh hey something's going to be there we have six Windows as well as two mandor underneath the lean to now I purposefully put the vast majority of all the doors and windows underneath the lean because I've dealt with leaky window in the past in a shop and I'm not doing it again I don't care how good the Craftsman is putting the building up I just want to Future proof it from my own sanity I guess you could say we do have a 12T X 12T rollup door on the south wall that is not under a lean two and we do have one 36in mandor on the East wall that is not underneath a lean to but the majority of them I wanted underneath there that that that uh transition between shop roof and lean to roof that's not a typical leaking Point um not nearly as common as windows are so I'm okay with having the windows here I'm also okay with not having a bunch of natural light on this other side I I simply do not care inside the shop we're going to be relying heavily on artificial light that's just the way it always was planned to be uh so that's that's okay I'm going to lose line of sight through a window to the east side of the property which is kind of where the driveway comes in driveway is actually going to be down here quite a bit um but I'm I'm okay with that again because like I said I just do not want to deal with leaky Windows I've been there unfortunately and done that and I just don't want to do it so if the need arises for adding visuals to my or line of sight to my East I can always put some Poe cameras power over ethernet security cameras up in various different locations put a monitor somewhere and I'll be able to see plenty good enough that way if the need arises all right so the main shop is going to have a 124 roof pitch the lean to is going to have a 122 roof pitch and it's going to look like a big giant box this is not designed to look super fancy this is not designed with any uh visuals in mind I wanted every bit of my dollars to go to function to have the maximum size shell that I could get the maximum size uh piece of finished concrete that I could get I just don't don't care about it looking super fancy or looking a certain way um that being said I will give a quick shout out to uh Third Coast Craftsman his shop looks amazing I love his shop sign I love his shop I love everything about his color combo I just love what he's doing I'm doing my monetary Investments a little bit differently though and that's okay so uh one 12T X 12T rollup door on the south facing end um I had two 10-ft doors in my last shop and I always wished one of them was just wall space so I don't need two doors 12T width allows me a lot of space to get stuff in and I'm thinking you know pallets of stuff uh horizontally on my tractor forks perpendicular to the travel of the tractor I can get 12ft wide material or you know probably like 11 and 1/2t wide material through this opening uh 12T in height so I can park my camper on the inside I've got one sewer out and water in over here in this corner which I'll talk about in just a second this door placement I'm not 100% set on but I'm probably I don't think I'm going to change this but that's still open to change uh what else do we have over here uh just just a basic structure both of these Mand doors are a minimum of 36 in away from the end walls I don't care if they got to go a little bit more I just want them a minimum 36 that way I can put cabinets or something over there if I want to down the road and also maybe the dust collector down here into this one so there you go very very very basic shop it's just a box which is funny you know what what happens when you get get a a a big gift for a child they open up the gift and they play with the Box well this is my box for the property and we're going to be doing a lot of stuff on the inside so let's go through the evolution of what the inside is going to look like let's go over here to this first one and first one you can see kind of my old shop layout reincarnated here so first off we have the camper uh this is a Winnebago model we I do not have a Winnebago camper but I used a model off of uh 3D warehouse and SketchUp and I scaled it to the exact size of our current camper put the um slide out here where our slide out is and put a little bit of reference marks for a couple of other things so the initial plan was to set up the shop like normal no big deal set up the camper and then build a standalone bathroom in the shop now my initial plan was for this bathroom for twofold number one when the Camper's gone after we build the house the Camper's going to be out of there it's going to be nice to have a a little bathroom here in the shop it's going to be really nice to have a bathroom in the shop that was my biggest complaint with my last shop was it was built before we got there and there's no running water inside the structure so having a bathroom in there would be great now as far as living in a camper having a bathroom in here well then I have a decent residential water heater and I can actually take a shower you know what I'm saying anyone who's gone camping one of these campers understands you can't quite take a full you know residential household shower in a camper so that was a big selling point for building this bathroom uh of course having a a dedicated place that guests who are here on the property be like hey yeah you can go use the bathroom right there without them going through our camper uh all of that played into the uh decision making here I also wanted to put a kitchen sink a fulls siiz range oven fulls siiz refrigerator and of course we can throw a table anywhere it doesn't really matter on the table and the whole point to this bathroom is an elevated bathroom it's 3 ft off of the ground which leaves the sewer exposed below it therefore I at the time of building the shop I only have to settle on one sewer out I'm not locked in if I have let's just say a a toilet out here and a shower out here and and something else over here um if those are built into the slab I'm stuck with that forever and if this if this space needs change well I'm stuck with it not only that but it's just way easier to throw one sewer out inside uh the slab and then have an elevated platform where you can connect all of your sewer above grade and it just makes the the hookup process so much easier so as far as this sink goes uh just a a water supply coming this way with a uh small inexpensive um on demand sink water heater and then one drain coming out along this wall and then tying in down here so that's the whole point of this elevated platform make the plumbing easier long term we would also have our stack washer and dryer right there Plumbing right there for the washer and dryer uh or for the washer and then of course the dryer I'm okay with taking like a dryer vent and popping that through the walls because that's such a small opening that's super easy to seal no big deal whatsoever way different than a window which requires J channel and and all kinds of other stuff so that was the initial plan uh the shop is basically set up kind of the sort of the same way I had it at my last shop uh table saw Band Saw planer and out feed table that's a package deal these go together because they maximize overlapping Dead Space when you're using the band saw you are right here and your leftand side is dead space you're never going to be the left side of the band saw you're never going to be to the far right side of the table saw you're never going to be the to the opposite side of the planer as the elevation handle so all all three of those dead spaces Nest them together and then this becomes your location for your dust collection drop and your electrical drop same with this little Island right here planer Band Saw doesn't matter which band saw HS 950 horizontal sander and my router table these four back to back to back to back have the exact same um Advantage the Dead Space is overlapped so you can put your electrical and your dust collection drops right there super convenient now of course the router table close to the CNC machine is convenient because some of these bits are interchangeable minor stuff like my drill press cart and my air cleaner cart none of that stuff really matters on a layout like this because they're portable you can move them anywhere you want uh dust collection system down here most likely uh no more than 3 or 4 ft away from this wall so I can tie into to the uh to the ceiling uh and and drop some some type of suspended cable something or other to uh get the Run going over here drop for the CNC machine drop for this island drop for this island eventually over here at the miter saw now this is kind of a long span so I may experiment with something different for the miter saw as far as dust collection goes or the radial arm saww some type of cross cutting station uh I don't have my last miter saw station anymore so that's going to be a new project Venture which is going to be great and then this CNC machine Aid 6x2 this is a possibility and not a guarantee I just want to throw that out there so I would like to have a large slab flattening tabletop flattening CNC machine uh something that I could utilize personally but also uh with this particular property I'm going to be offering services to the local community and I've never done that before but I want to venture out away from 100% of my income being online on the leane two over here this is my wife's car it's well it's scaled to the dimensions of my wife's vehicle which is a primarily primary family vehicle we've got a 2016 Rav 4 Toyota Rav 4 it's just way less expensive on fuel than my 2012 F250 with 6.7 L diesel this thing just drinks fuel so we primarily use this one which means my vehicle I put it in there so you could actually see that there's enough space for it but in all honesty it's probably going to live somewhere like that somewhere outside the lean to the tractor will most likely live live under this lean to and then also we have a side by side which is a 99g Wrangler it's probably going to live right there and then for the time being I'll put all of the tractor implements right there uh so I'll house all the tractor implements underneath the lean I eventually want to get these out of here all the uh tractor implements into a different storage just for tractor implements and that will leave me with this whole wall being wide open so that I can create an outdoor chopa station of some kind something that anybody can walk up and just make a quick cut outside uh whatever you're doing there's there's an there's an option to make a cut here now of course there's ways to uh safety proof this or or increase safety for children or people who shouldn't be using it keeping them away from it uh but I'd like to have a a rough outdoor cross cutting area and a nice indoor woodworking Crosscut area that's longterm down the road so going back to this whole elevated bathroom and the camper and all this the this was what I was set in stone I was set in stone on this for quite a long time until some people started to bring up some very valid points that I did not really did not really take into consideration number and it's it's mainly due to air conditioning so the AC unit on this camper somewhere right here and the condensation always drips no matter what into this corner comes off of The Gutter and just drops on the ground right there it's convenient where we're camping right now cuz I just put the dog's water bowl right there and it's automatically filled up with condensation water 24/7 cool right inside the shop not so much I'll have to elevate a funnel connected to a hose of some kind to get that to drain out eh it's doable but that kind of sucks uh and then number two with the AC running I'm cooling the inside of the camper but I'm heating the inside of the shop so that's going to suck so I really don't want to deal with the AC inside the camper so that made me think about you know what if we're going to be if we're going to be building a small little bathroom here it's not much effort to just build an apartment in here which is something that a lot of people recommended to do anyway so let's see what we have next next we have basically what we're going to get by with over the winter we're going to park the camper in there like initially planned over the winter and we're not going to worry about the the bathroom at all we may do some type of temporary washer and dryer setup over here so we can still use our washer and dryer or maybe even the washer and dryer goes over here I don't know but we're going to temporarily get the washer and dryer going and just use the sewer hookup as a sewer hookup that's it that's what we're going to do from the very beginning so that way we can and build an apartment come springtime so in the springtime or next summer whenever we will pull the camper out and park it on the back side of the shop the septic facility the advanced treatment facility I think is what it's called that's going to be over here somewhere the sewer out is right here going into it so I can put a clean out on the top right here to tie into with the camper sewer I also have my water coming in right here which on the other side of that sewer I want to extend that water into a yard hydrant and if I put a yard hydrant right there well then I can hook up the camper to that the electrical panel to the shop is going to be somewhere over here and if it is right there well then it'll be convenient to put an outdoor plugin for the camper right there so it makes a lot of sense to move the camper outside I don't have to deal with that condensation drip anymore I don't have to deal with the AC heating up the shop and that allow me to build a much more comfortable apartment this apartment is only10 ft I don't know if you can see that it's only 10 ft in this direction and I believe it's 28 ft in this direction 32 I'm sorry 32 ft in this direction my Dimension right there is kind of being hidden so I'll just plop it right there so 32 ft this way that allows me a 5 1/2t or 6t by approximately 10t bathroom I can put a corner shower in here a toilet and a sink that's basically all I need in a bathroom my washer and dryer can still go right there uh this will still be elevated so all the plumbing can and whatnot can go underneath here the sink can go snaked back into there as well and as soon as you come in this door of the apartment will have a queen siiz bed with a twins siiz bunk on top so adults on the bottom and our daughter can sleep on top which is kind of sort of what we've been doing anyway in our camper uh soon as SketchUp figures out what's going on it froze up not responding yay you're going to crash on me SketchUp no there we go uh we have a queen-sized bed and our daughter sleeps on the dinette so having them right there it's basically the exact same thing except this little apartment will it'll just be a lot more enjoyable temporary living situation because we'll have a full-size stove which we currently do not have we'll have a full-size sink which we currently do not have we'll have a fullsize fridge which we currently do not have we will have a washer and dryer which we currently do not have and we will have a shower with a residential water heater so hopefully we could have an unlimited supply of hot water which we definitely do not have the bunk bed uh situation over here uh I have a small um uh projector and I can project it right onto this wall for any type of TV entertainment needs which we don't really watch TV a lot anyway as it is so I'm not going to put emphasis on having like an entertainment center in here entertainment area this is plenty enough space for a dining table so we can cook and eat accordingly and then all this space right here is about the same size as our camper I could put some vents in between the bathroom and the main space down here so that way we can get by with just one individual wall mount mini split and at that point I can go to bed in the summertime with it being quiet quiet cuz currently in this camper our AC unit is insanely loud anybody who's standing underneath the AC unit cannot hear anybody else speaking 5T from them that's a huge complaint of our camper life um which other than that isn't really bad camper life so let me zoom out just a little bit here uh what do I lose by going to this layout with the apartment uh the only thing that I really lose and it's not that big of a deal is being able to come in this door and with long material and go right to the miter saw station now that means I could potentially rotate this this way along this long way not entirely sure if I want to do that because like the biggest amount of area that you can get out of a four-sided structure is a square right um if the perimeter doesn't change the square is the greatest amount of area so having this more square like versus this way so if I was to take these and rotate them rotate the the apartment this way I would have a further long rectangle I'm not changing the uh actual square foot but I'm changing the perceived square feet this will look and feel like a much bigger space with the apartment in this orientation so anyway you can come in this door we'll have like a boot boot box uh you know a coat Locker something something right here to get rid of your coats and shoes and whatnot and if we do have this conveniently located by this door uh it'll make me and my wife happy because that means we cannot have we we can eliminate shoes in all of this space and this will stay nice and clean um long term this gives me another wall that will be wood for me to Mount stuff to so my workbench goes right there hand tool wall whatever and then look at all of this open space for activities so much room for activities right um my daughter's workbench anywhere doesn't matter if my workbench is there her workbench is here something uh maybe all the metal stuff gets moved down here quite a bit and this becomes my wife's growing area with shelves with grow lights and plants and whatnot who knows but we've got a lot of options maybe the CNC machine comes down even further cuz this is all kind of wasted space down here I I don't know we got we've got a tremendous amount of space in this orientation and also my truck does not go there so we have all kinds of space over here too um yeah it's just this is all this is all really cool maybe at that point she comes in the from the other direction parking who knows who knows regardless we have a lot a lot of options that's it for this video though if you want to stay up to date with everything going on around the home Homestead around the property uh subscribe to that other Channel that I started bpo3 Homestead bp3 equals baates Party of Three it's got a lot of really strong meaning to me and my wife I'll continue to post woodworking content here on my woodworking Channel I'm not giving up woodworking I'm not giving up making YouTube videos for this channel not giving up content on my website I'm just trying to structure it in a little bit easier to digest uh manner so that's it for this one you guys take care have a great day and I'll talk talk to you in the next video