Women in Agile West Midlands conference

Todi Gold
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thinking agility and rethinking cause.
Um this event was born out of um
an agenda to include women in a
specifically
uh where women can come together to
collaborate network brainstorm
on how we can manage our
wellbeing in the tech space. So um today
I'm not focusing on the agile framework
or agile practices. Yes, we agree that
agile is about strength, about standups,
about rituals, but today we are focusing
on the people. And one of the agile
frameworks is um people over progress.
And today we are trying to answer that
question. Are we really doing that? Are
we really starting with people over
progress? And also says individuals at
the heart of it. Um things at the heart
of it which is what agility is all
about. At the heart of agility we have
people we have indiv individuals not
always about the nature not always about
the standards about people behind the
work that a is all about. So today um
that is why we've gathered here and
thank you for coming thank you for the
curiosity. So a little about myself is
that I'm an engineer on board 6 plus
emission certification engineer as well
as a sport scrum master for my team um
in Java Land Rover Limited. So I've been
able to collaborate with um individuals
in agile in my workplace. I've been able
to start up a canvas board um start up
um a strong board and also organized
certain master classes for my team. Um
so aside that I'm keeping that aside.
I'm focusing on how um Esther Young has
been able to manage um to be in the tech
space and how I've been able to navigate
it and um everything that comes with it,
the imposter syndrome, uh the um wanting
to belong, the vulnerability that comes
with it being in a tech space as a woman
specifically. And today we have um
speakers
um amazing speakers that will be coming
aboard and certain of condors that we
need to bring out and that's what
agility basically it's about it's about
evolving along the way it's not about
perfection of course we all aim for
perfection but I like to say that it's a
um you know when we think of the human
aspect and how humanity has evolved over
time we think way before now people
aspire to be able to
I mean that was aspiration that was
their definition of perfection but at
the time you know right now we're still
thinking evolution we're still thinking
progress and the point is at what point
are human beings ever going to reach
that peak when we go like
so you know it's about agility for me is
not just about aspirations it's about
actually managing expectations
and when I say managing expectation I'm
like what's our role as are scrum
masters half the time when I talk to
people who are not in tech they don't
even know what scrumers are they project
managers are and the point is they don't
even understand agility the question is
do we need to call them with that does
it affect me that's the question that I
ask because at the end of the day who
needs to know do I need to know all the
terms of my body before it functions or
as a doctor. Does a doctor need to
bother me with those um with those
technical or should I say professional
terms? I'm not interested. All I care
about is I walk in it solves my problem.
So when we talk about scrum and we talk
about um processes and we talk about our
ceremonies, the question becomes are we
being bogged down unnecessary by
terminologies and do we need to refocus
on what delivery
In this case, you know, um there's
usually tech. Okay. So, why do companies
exist? Why do businesses exist? And why
do we um as human beings exist? Most
times it's because you want to deliver
value, isn't it? So, um you take a
business for instance, if someone's
dream about fulfilling or answering a
call, you know, because they think it is
something that's going to answer
problem.
So, whether it starts from the small or
the other, you know, so if we're looking
at the microcosm or we're looking at the
big picture, the point is we still need
to start somewhere. And that's what
agility is about. So maybe that's what
I'm trying to explain here because
agility who cares the point is how does
it solve your problem? And this is what
I'm trying to say. So first of all,
agility says you don't have to b
yourself. The whole picture you can in
small chunks. You don't have to
understand
the whole world. Just start making
impact from the next person to you.
Start making impact from the little and
that's what it is. So we do things in
small chunks and we do things um you
know with the hope of you know so we
pick up lowhanging fruits and deliver
and aim which we call MVPs
products and aim to make people happy
because at the end of the day we are
here for the people it's not just about
us and so when we talk about wellbeing
we're not just being selfish in fact
strong masters are seven leaders which
means We're not just here to come and um
we are not project managers. We don't
command um people or we don't tell
people you have to do this. We advise
people. We guide people. We train people
and then we also empower them to make
decisions the best decisions. And I must
say this brings me to my big question of
the day and it's that what do scrum
masters actually do? The real impediment
most silent. They're cultural, they're
structural, they're technical, they're
systemic. And most times it's not
something that goes on board because
this is the issues we face as prime
ministers. You have wonderful ideas, you
know, you have a team full of people
with technical skills and wonderful
ideas. How do you sync this? You know,
because the human nature, everybody's
got ego,
like it or not, it's a fact and
something you have to deal with. Even
though you need to focus on the goal and
this is what we refer to as spring goals
or we talk about ethics which are like
quoted goals you know that we want to
achieve. The point is all these goals
and always breaking it down into chunks
like we call them strengths and backlogs
whatever terminology we use. The point
is that we're trying to achieve a goal
at the end and the point is you're
dealing with human beings and
I must say that in my role um
you can call me middle man. I found out
that the most difficult people to work
with are leaders because you're not
dealing with people who are asking for
instruction. You're dealing with people
who have ideas and they have their own
um how do I call it preconception of how
something should be delivered. So now
the point is how do we surount your
concept of delivery and this person's
concept of delivery. So sometimes it's
merging engineering. So this engineering
guy you cannot dispute his argument and
it's the fact he has reasons for concern
and you also have to deal with this
financial guy. Yeah. And you know the
point is everybody's coming with cogent
reasons. So how do we as scrers how as
leaders model that it's not about
flexing muscles. It's not about throwing
jagon that nobody understands. There was
a I looked at one video and I redid it.
It was about um um it was a skit about
interviewing, you know, there was an
interview someone was interviewing Title
and Candy. I thought it was very funny.
Someone shared it with me. But the point
is um you don't have to think it's funny
but tu and ki you know that's people
from the south is the southern part of
Nigeria mostly southern part of Nigeria
and um you know is widely spoken amongst
people like that anyway point is t and
asked um would you marry someone that
brings age to
how can I marry someone that brings age
to um and they do all sorts of crap and
you know and you know they get up in the
morning and you know they you know if
you so that conversation ended candy
would you marry someone that H2 said
what a never how can I marry someone
that H2O that person if you live in the
same house with them they can bring
something on your head and land it on
your head suddenly all sort of mishaps
are going to happen to you if you marry
someone that drinks H2O. Then the person
goes like, "What is H2O?" Taiwan goes
like, "Ho is one um wonderful, you know,
goes like he said
is something like um what do I call it?
Some drink, some ritual drink." I said,
"Okay, fine." Asking what is
he?
Sorry.
What's
come on?
>> Yeah, you can keep trans.
>> Okay. So, the bottom line is that H they
did not even understand what A2 H2O was.
At this point, you're going to say,
"Yeah, they're very ignorant." But the
point is the communicator, why did you
not signify and say water?
>> Why did you put H2O in that's one and
then the other question becomes um yeah
H2O you ask yourself what's the big deal
everybody should know H2 but I must say
not everybody ask a 2year-old if they
understand what is so you know for me
I'm like I think apart from all these
technicalities the most important thing
is ensuring first of all that your
audience before you start creating all
these wonderful and all these write offs
that make you look like grand terms
because I promise you tech is full of
people that are brilliant and brilliant
people like feeling very important
unfortunately so you know it's pocketing
the vehicle and ensuring that the most
important thing is achieved which is
communication because without
communication there's no we are not
getting anywhere and so you know this is
what we need to establish as masters we
need to keep what I like saying when I
started in um um Jaguar Lang one of the
things I noticed was um there were loads
of cyos so it's not peculiar to jug I'm
just using it as my experience
is automotive so basically and you know
engineering engineering is fast so
you're talking I I'm not going to go
into all the blocks that you want to
think about but you know you find this
person they're all in the same They're
using all these technical sense. I mean
even for people someone took notes a
note and having a meeting with PJ and JJ
and I asked is PJ pajamas. The point is
I know but the point is it's it's as
basic as that. Can we
try
to communicate instead of you know can
we smash the sandwich? I love the word
smashing by the way. It's one of my it's
one of my go
Because life is a pun after all. You
need to learn to take yourself seriously
but as well you need to laugh because
what's what's life?
I mean if we all chase everything we're
chasing after all who's going to own it
after all and this is what priority is
about. It's saying to people you are
important. This is what scrum masters
are trying to say. We're not just
focusing on the delivery of the product
because actually
years that product is going to be out of
fashion. Sorry to say, but that's a
fact. People are no longer being may no
longer be interested. But how have you
impacted the people along the way? How
have you um because yeah most times we
kind of focus on our end goal foretting
that the people without people you can't
achieve anything. People are the center
of everything we do and We repp
prioritize people's wellbeing and
understand that our wellbeing too is
crucial to this you know and realize
that life is a balance you know when I
when I think of balance I think of
juggling you know so you're juggling
this and juggling that how do you master
that skill without any
bottom line is that life is a race but
guys like Um is it um this poet said he
said what is this like if not of care
you have no time to stand and sit and
that's what it is for most of us we're
rushing through life forgetting to stand
to admire even when I go and walk with
some people they're just eager to you
know give back another um you know
accolade to say yes I climb snow I climb
this and that should that be the purpose
of should getting the next
um should I say acclamation be your goal
or should we remember that life is a
journey that is meant to be enjoyed not
and so even if we apply this to
everything not just work but you know to
everything in life then you know what
I've also found out with the teams
because as a scrum master you know like
I said we are breaking silos
>> we're breaking glasses
The issue with glasses I usually ask
people is that it's not just breaking
the glass right
um if you are black like me sorry to say
chocolate
sweet about it someone said if you're
chocolate like me someone said she's
chocolate so let me invite that yeah if
you're chocolate like me there are
things that we have to confront which
means it's not all your ideas that will
be taken naturally not all our ideas are
good but My point is how do we continue
as people not just of color not just of
gender not just with whatever identity
you may come with you know because of
course being a person of color comes
with its challenges and um you know like
I said it's like smashing blessings
and when the issue with smashing
blessings which is what I love to ask
many times by the time you have the What
if the glass sticks on your neck? So the
point is we are better together. We are
better not just doing things on our own.
I love mother. She said that I alone
cannot change the world but I can start
a
rep that you start. It's like lighting a
touch. Let's say for instance there's
darkness in our world naturally you know
because many of us have all this
question why does this happen? Why can't
my company do this? question. Why can't
people do this? But the question, you
know, the answer is that it's a form of
darkness. How do we as individuals shed
light? How do we see ourselves in the
skin of things with ceilings which are
barriers that need to be broken? Are we
going to be on our own? I don't think
that's what
I think it's about carrying everybody
along. Yeah, it may take a long time.
Yes, it's like a to
The race, the proverb of the race, the
story of the race of the between the
hair and the toes. The the hair you can
say was focused on achieving the next
thing title. He was focused on just
getting it done. Whereas the tortoise
carried all his house with him in that
sense. So are we asked to be hair or
tortoises in this race called life in
this race called agility because at the
end of the day we sprint for go. So we
should my thing is I believe it's a rem
affects the other person. It's not just
a strength. It's putting it in
perspective to understand that you do
your bit as best as you can and hand
over to the next generation whoever and
whatever that comes as so yes agile
isn't a ritual it's a relationship and
I'm not saying that I can't do
everything but I'm here as well to be
authentic to be bold to be candid and to
yes I'm a little I'm very but a little
cheeky you know and it's just about
winning ceremonies. It's about smashing
invisible barriers so that we can be
smashing strong. Thank you very much.
>> Thank you.
>> That was an amazing
lecture from Tony Gold and you agree
with me that she has been able to break
down what um agility is all about. And
um for me my take away is um how we
should ensure that people in the tech
space should break down the
technicalities and the um jones and
technologies of um um of the tech space.
Try as much as possible to make sure
that the language you're using the
receiver understands it. And the goal of
the communication should be that the
receiver understands it instead of
trying to use the technical uh
knowledges which only you understand but
your audience does not understand what
they said you're passing on as well as
also um being authentic being bold and
being candid as women in tech spaces one
more take away from me is that we should
ensure that as along the way we should
try to
Enjoy your life. Try to enjoy your work.
It's not about always smashing goals.
Enjoy the means. Enjoy the journey. Not
just the destination, not just the Oh,
I've smashed this. Yeah. While smashing
goal is important. Um attaining heights
is important. Enjoy the process
while enjoy the process. Enjoy the
failures. the part that is not easy as
is not as nice as you would want it to
be. Enjoy it. Uh because at the end of
the day, all of those bits of it make up
the goal that you striving for. And as
well as she trying to make us understand
that agility is more like breaking your
work bit by bit and also prioritizing
the wellbe of the people carrying this
task. And that will bring me to the
introduction of our next speaker who is
a policy strategy, a wellness
communication specialist uh with a
mental health law master's degree. So
raise up and listen to an amazing speech
which Queen Esen will be bringing up.
[Applause]
It's actually very exciting to be here.
I'm super excited to be speaking on the
human side of agility which is
reclaiming wellbeing in tech.
Now I just want to start off with a
short story. Imagine Mona.
Mona is a software developer. She's
juggling various tasks. You can see
sorry my Yeah, you can see it on my
slide. She's juggling various ts. Can
see her struggling with context
switching between meetings,
code reviews and team dynamics.
With agile is made to be effective in
delivering her attacks. And so even
makes for more flexibility. You can see
that for Mona, it sometimes means being
always on. She's always on. You can see
how she's on. She's often exhausted, not
just by work, but the emotional load of
keeping harmony and staying visible.
The message here is that agile was meant
to help, but in some cases or more often
than not for many women, it has also
burnout, self-doubt, fatigue.
Statistics show that 68% of women in
tech face burn out and 41% of them
consider leaving the industry within two
years. And that that now brings me to
the next slide which is
the promise agile gave to us all and the
reality that we are all facing agility.
Now you can see the vision. This is a
very smooth
and then you can see the reality of
itself
and this this is one that we need to
actually now begin to think and consider
what is the reality and what is the
promise the promise is the sustainable
pace that's agility for you but the
reality is that sometimes there are
constant urgency
and then you also have people over
process
but In the reality of it all, it's
really ceremonies.
Other times it it says to you embracing
change and obviously yes this it has
brought change and not just change it
has brought flexibility has brought
effectiveness. But on the other on the
other hand of it is change fat. So as
you all know with every positive
effect there's also a negative effect.
So it's sort of like they in two they at
a
What we need to do is to be able to
create that balance and that's why we
are having this conversation today. The
hidden cost of this is that there's
emotional labor to keep teams together.
Ideas are being overlooked in meetings.
Why? Because of that release ceremony
because of that change party because of
that constant urgency. So this is the
cost of
the promise for agility and when we your
when we to place agility over the
well-being of the humans that we are
working with.
>> There's also that pressure to maintain
excellence at work and home and we are
dealing with women here. We we we must
have it in mind that women have is also
is there a unique thing for women that
other than having to work have your home
to manage. If you're married and you
have kids, there are kids there at home.
As a woman, you you you go through
periods and that period come with mood
swings. Men don't have to go through
those things and some somehow it has
become normal because it's something you
experience every month, but it's not
normal.
So when you put in all of these
effects and all of these biological
change and situations for a woman, then
you know that there's a lot more that's
required of her because she needs to be
efficient at work and she needs to take
care of her own health and then her
wellbe.
And that now takes me to just being able
to emphasize more that agel should
evolve with people. It should evolve
with it people with its people not to
overrun them.
>> Women have more work to do to get the
best from agile and it's because of this
examples that I've given because they go
through more things than they realize.
You need to acknowledge that while while
agile is for efficiency but it's not
without its shortcomings
and being a woman means you have to be
more intentional about your wellbe.
So wellbeing is important. Wellbeing is
your human side and it has to be at a
balance because your job is as important
as your wellbeing. If your wellbeing is
impacted then how can you be productive?
It's the human that gets the job done.
Not the job doesn't work itself out. The
human has and for the human to do it has
to be well cared for. Now I'll just go
ahead to talk about I'm going to the
next slide which is burnout triggers.
That's what happens the mental the
mental health toil of not caring for
your wellbe and that's one you can see
how is you can see what's happening to
her cognitive overload from constant
prioritizing you can see
at times at work she goes through
imposter syndrome due to public metrics
that's that's more like seeing the data
indicators are visible to others example
like website traffic
there are suppressed voices in
retrospective
The real impact is that some women can
feel isolated on head and over
exhausted. The message here is that
behind every sprint metrics is a human
mind and there is there is need to care
for that mind. And when I say sprint
metric, I just want to make it clear
that it's sort of like when you're
talking about sprint here, it's like
division of labor. Breaking down task
into manageable bits so you can actually
get it to completion
and It's also like it's one that helps
you with giving periodic updates to get
an early feedback. So I because I I had
I had to take a moment to to explain
sprint because it might be a bit of a
juggle for somebody else who is not in
the tech space. So sprint works in a way
I will just try to explain it in a way
that imagine a house if you want to
build a house you have to cut things out
into bits you know you start you can't
if somebody says I want a house you
don't just bring the house and say I've
built the house as you start off with
the foundation the flooring everything
else you need to show them and let them
know so that's how spring works breaking
down t and then you finish it and then
you get to completion so I'll now get on
to the next bit of my presentation
And that would be the a human centered
adult ship. That's what we need. I'm
going to talk about a human centered
adult shift. You can see how people are
sat together here. Malara is ser and
they working together as a community as
one. That's a simple shift. We need to
now begin to think what can we do to
help bring that sense of teamwork. Not
team in the world but team in practice.
How can we bring that teamwork to
reality? Replacing status check with
emotional checkins. And when I say this,
not not emotional checkins to tick the
box, but the genuine way you check in on
colleague the way that you show that
you're able to review your sprint. So
for example, Mara comes to you and and
tells you mentions to you how she's
being affected. impeded or something is
happening in her life that is just
giving her a lot of stresses. You don't
listen to her but then say, "Oh, yes, I
see you're going through this, but you
know, we need to get the job done." No,
you can adjust the task. You can rep
prioritize because how wellbeing is as
important as the job you're trying to
get done. And that's what I mean by real
checkins, replacing check status
checkins with emotional checkins, being
practical. And it's not also a that you
use it against them in the future. Oh,
because you complain about something or
you made a report about not being well
and then it's being used against you in
the future. No, that would just be a
ticking the box thing, not the practice
the practical side of it in that sense.
Cuz if as as a leader you you use your
team's wellbe against them in the
future, now the confidence to express
themselves will no longer be there.
people suffer but they won't they won't
see and then you have people showing it
at work but then the productivity isn't
at optimal. So would you rather have
people showing up and not getting the
job done or would you rather have people
who are well enough to get the job done
to productivity. So these are things you
want to consider. So some emotional
checkins can be done can be done as a
checklist item but that's not what we
want here. We want it to really be a
humanist item. humanist item is that you
really care, you listen and when your
employees can trust you to care for
their wellbeing, then they will trust
you enough to even go beyond to get the
job done for you. And then again, the
next thing I'm going to talk about here
is a human centered agile shift requires
you to have an honest challenge session
in additional to planning session. When
I say honest challenge session, it's in
a way that for you to be able to achieve
priority at work. You know, you need to
be able to allow your employees to be
able to challenge decisions. They should
be able to speak for and against
decisions with confidence
cuz in doing that it helps with
prioritizing. Imagine that there are
unnecessary meetings that are being put
in calendars and because of how rigid
the system is, your employees cannot
exactly say to you this meeting might
not I might not need to to attend this
meeting. So and so person can attend
what I can use is take this time back to
achieve so and so. If you cannot if your
employees do not have that hand to
question to speak for then that agile
shoot isn't there. It's a rigid system.
So we need to be able to have honest
challenge sessions in additional to
planning sessions to achieve work
priority.
The next thing I would say here will be
you need to have proper proper support
system as you go as you try to encourage
as you're growing in work you need to
have a proper support system. So a lot
of people there there's always this same
when people say oh I went through this
person has to go through it
because you broke your leg when you pass
through there it does not mean you have
to give that barrier that that made you
break your leg for someone else to
break. But there are ways to change
because you may not support it does not
mean you shouldn't support somebody
else. You can you can change the
narrative and that is in supporting
someone else. When you work as a team,
you achieve more result than working in
silos. The former had already said that
and I'm just portraing that that point.
So it's so for you to work as a team you
need to support. You need to show
support to your colleagues. Your
colleagues have to empowered in terms of
how you work in your team. You have to
start thinking about there's really a
point of this to provide appropriate
landing power and work to encourage
others to come into come into the system
as you have been there. Are you
mentoring somebody else to get here? Are
you helping someone? A new colleague has
just started working. How are you
helping them? How are you showing them
how to on board? How you showing them
where they need to go? If you go to a
new country, it's unfamiliar to you. You
need someone to tell you where certain
things are. Why do we use Google map?
Nobody knows it all. You know it now
because you have experienced it. So
because you've experienced that, you now
know it. Then you need some you need to
show somebody else how to get there.
That was how you were taught. And even
if you were not taught, break that
chain, break that cycle. That is what
agility also needs.
The next point I will raise here is we
need to c celebrate wellness wins not
just deliveries.
We need someone to hold their hands and
people need their hands to be held as
well. The job needs needs to be done and
people need to survive to get the job
done. So we have to celebrate the
wellness of people as to celebrate the
deliverables that they bring into the
company.
And then capacity building is very
important. Why?
Investing money in building yourself
helps you to achieve result effectively.
You can't sit in one position and think
that you will do better than you were
two years ago. The world is evolving.
Change is a constant. So capacity
building is part of what helps for
agility to be achieved in its effective
way. And I say that to say when your
your capacity is increased is built is
built up what then happens to you is
that you take time back. You're more
efficient. getting things done. For
example, before we had Google, there
were other we had Google and other
search engines at the time. I know there
were talks here and there about people
becoming lazy. Oh, we need to get to the
library. We need to do things with but
now Google is what we used to search and
the same way with AI. AI is here. A lot
of people are saying AI is taking our
job. But AI helps you make for
effectiveness, efficiency. It helps you
save time, the time you have used in
going through something over and over
again. AI makes it easy. It finds fits
your work. But then you're the one
behind that tool. Whatever you put into
AI is what is refine and give it back to
you. But how can you put something into
the AI tools if you are not even your
capacity is not built enough to
understand the language and how things
work. So it's very important for you to
pay attention to building yourself
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when building a software it's important
to have a scaffold. So is that structure
the code that you're working on like you
need to all of these things I'm speaking
about you need to build yourself up to
get to use it everything works with
support you don't just build a house
there's a support system that keeps it
growing and it's that support that takes
you to the highest level so if you're
building your capacity you're meant to
be more effective and then you're taking
time back and of the world. Otherwise,
you can spend one one five hours trying
to complete one time because you want to
do it by yourself and that also connects
to team work cuz as you build your
capacity, you're more effective to work
with your team. But when you sit there,
you're not working on yourself. You're
not growing. Then you become redundant.
We hear redundancy here and there. This
is what it really means. when you're not
building your capacity.
The the last point is you the the the
last point I'll make here is I'll just
give a scenario. Imagine company B
introduced optional video.
The result is that% more women
participated and then the message here
is that tiny tweaks to process can
unlock big emotional safety and that's
all I've been saying in speaking about
the human center agile shift.
My last slide will be that your sprint
starts here. We have listened to
an amazing presentation on how we can
prioritize our wellbeing.
Now what are we going to do when we
leave here? What are we taking back with
us? It's just to say a about people, not
mental health drives performance. That's
your wellness. If you're not working
hard, if if you're if you're not taking
care of your wellness, your mental
health, then you cannot perform with
efficiency. Women in tech don't need to.
The system must evolve.
So my call to action for everyone here
would be block one no meeting day this
week. And when I say block one no
meeting day this week, I want to
practicalize it. And so I would want you
all to stand up on your feet.
So we're going to try a dance to connect
to what I'm I'm about to do here. I
don't know if anybody has heard this
song before, but you just join me. All
you need to do is you do this. You do
this and then you knock.
[Music]
>> You're not available.
[Music]
is saying you're not available for
meetings. You are not available. So
that's what I meant by block no meeting
days like there there are days where you
have no meeting for that week.
Try to amplify a female colleague's
idea.
Add team wellbeing to your next plan.
So to conclude here I would say true
agility isn't about moving fast. is
about moving together sustainably with
everyone's voice heard and valued.
[Applause]
Wow, that was a fantastic speech.
I'm unavailable once in a week.
Prioritizing yourself, prioritizing your
wellbeing. You would agree with me that
that presentation
was 100% amazing. Let's start from
it's well packed. Um this the
breakground the structure of this
presentation is well presented. I mean
I've not being in agile space I've not
been able to visualize oh what's the
vision and what's the reality and pain
has been helping to like give us a
picture and that's one thing I've been
able to also dwell on looking at the
presentation the visual representation
of her speech and of what she has come
to present to us
what's the vision what's the reality and
that is a replica of what we go through
as women, juggling several things,
trying to meet up our goals, um our
hormones and all of those things um
affecting us as well. And she has been
able to make us understand that we need
to prioritize our body. I mean, you saw
the statistics, you saw the statistics
of women in tech who pass through all of
these uh uh issues. So, you're not
alone. It's just us to try to like make
that change, incorporate every point she
has given to us and we will be on our
way to keep managing our wedding as
women making sure that we acknowledge
that our mental health drives
performance and we need to guard our
mental health. We need to make sure that
we prioritize it as much as possible as
well as u trying to give us the human
center of agility. You would agree with
me that um when it comes to agility we
try to focus on the strength and all of
that but she has been able to like break
it down. So for people here that are not
aware of what strength is all about, you
have seen what strength is all about,
the breakdown, what you need to do to
survive in the tech space, the agile
shift, moving to the human center of
agility, prioritize yourself. Uh uh um
block out a week when you would
Everybody knows that this is the day
when you think back to yourself. and all
of that. And one last thing is about
building capacity. You see how she has
been able to like give us a take on
building our capacity. Um try as much as
we can to develop ourselves so that you
also give back to the team because if
you're not developing yourself, you're
not building your capacity, you're not
uh um um investing into yourself, into
your personality development,
professional development, how long will
they be able to support your team? So
all of these things, all of these points
just tailors it into what we've come
here, the human side of agility. Now
we've been able to retain agility. We've
been able to rethink us. We've been able
to rethink women and how we forge ahead
in the professional space wherever we
find ourselves. And that brings us to
the end of
the session. Thank you so much for
attending.
