In this video, we explore the next phase of China’s economic downturn, marked by a deepening disillusionment with government policies. The collapse of the real estate market and persistent overcapacity signal ongoing challenges, while issues like low birth rates and deflation highlight systemic limitations. Despite recent policy shifts, such as consumption subsidies and relaxed regulations, fundamental economic problems persist due to the top-down political system. The narrative traces a shift in public mindset—from blind trust in the government to hoping for better leadership, and finally to recognizing the system’s inherent flaws. Drawing parallels with Japan’s economic bubble, the discussion reveals why even well-intentioned policies may only slow the decline, not reverse it. This analysis underscores the need for a broader reflection on the balance between government and societal capacities to pave the way for a sustainable future.
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Hi, I'm Dong Shong. Welcome to Digging
into China, where we explore China in
depths to review unique perspectives.
Recently, China's economy has faced two
significant challenges. The first is the
collapse of the real estate market,
which has effectively signaled the start
of an economic downturn. The second is
the persistent issue of over capacity, a
chronic problem that continues to burden
China's economy. If we turn our
attention to the present, has China's
economy reached its lowest point? Most
would likely agree it has not. Given
that the economy has not yet bottomed
out, what will define the next phase of
China's economic decline as it continues
to worsen? Today, we'll explore what
lies ahead in this next stage of China's
economic challenges. So what will be the
prevailing theme of this next phase? In
my view, it's quite clear. A deepening
sense of disappointment will continue to
spread. Some may find this hard to
accept, thinking more disappointment.
I'm already deeply frustrated. How could
I possibly feel more let down? I
understand that sentiment completely.
However, the disappointment I'm
referring to isn't about expectations
for the econ economy's trajectory, but
rather a growing disillusionment with
the direction of government policy. This
may sound abstract, so let me clarify
with a straightforward example. The
issue of low birth rates. Low birth
rates are a pressing concern in China
today. a point on which most people
regardless of their political stance can
agree. What does it mean to have low
expectations for policy direction? It's
the belief that without the government
intervention, the current birth rate
trends will severely impact our future
leading to issues like an aging
population and a pension shortfalls.
Conversely, what does high expectations
for policy look like? It's acknowledging
that the low birth rate are a problem
and that the outlook is grim. Yet
believing the issue can be resolved if
the communist party prioritize it. Many
hold that if the party implements
policies, birth rates can recover. There
are two perspectives on addressing low
birth rates depending on one's trust in
the party. Those who trust the party
believe that if Xi Jinping recognized
the severity of the issue, the party
will introduce sensible policies to
tackle it. The specifics of those
policies unclear, but for them trusting
the party is enough. After all, can
anyone outsmart the chairman she? If she
decides to act, they believe birth rates
will rebound. Those who distrust the
party may view it as oppressive. Yet
many still think it could boost the
birth rate if it chooses to obey it
through extreme measures. For instance,
they might envision a policy like
Romania's underescu.
With a menstrual police monitoring
women's cycles and penalizing those who
don't have children and such a drastic
approach, China's birth rate issue could
theoretically be addressed and the birth
rates might rise. While this would come
at a significant cost, many believe the
party has the capability to enforce it.
Both sides, despite their differing
approaches, share the belief that the
party can solve the problem. But is that
truly the case? In reality, it's not.
Even if the party now treats low birth
rate as a top priority, what can it
realistically do? Offering 3,600 yen in
child care subsidies is already
straining its financial limits,
especially with the social security
funds nearly depleted. Implementing
something like a menstrual police would
also require vast resources. If there is
no budget for subsidies, where would the
fund for such a force come from? Sure,
if the party diverted all its resource
to this issue, it might make progress,
but at the cost of neglecting everything
else leading to economic collapse. For
the party today, the low birth rate
problem isn't just about recognizing its
severity. It's that they lack the means
to address it. Many haven't realized
this yet. This misperception is what I
mean by misplaced confidence in policy.
People acknowledge China's problems but
focus on policy direction believing that
if the party adopts the right policies
many of China's issues can be resolved.
This applies to the broader economy as
well. Have the party's past strategies
particularly under Xiinping been flawed?
Undoubtedly the errors are numerous.
Think of the vacant Shong new area
failed the belt and the road initiative
projects, extreme zero COVID measures,
or the recent overcapacity from the new
three industries. I won't list them all.
It's difficult to find a single sound
economic decision under shei. His
missteps are countless, leading many to
attribute China's economic ws solely to
his misguided policies.
However, there is a critical point many
overlook. Even if she's policy were
correct, could China's economy recover
under the current system? To put it
simply, many haven't considered that
even if she stepped down and someone
like a Huin Tao took over, the economy
would still struggle. Take the recent
anti-dlation and consumption stimulus
efforts for example. Since early this
year, the party has been battling
deflation. It has started with a
trillion yen consumption subsidy
followed by efforts to curb involution.
This represents a significant shift in
approach if not a complete reversal. If
Huin Tao were in charge, he'd likely
pursue similar policies. But what's the
outcome? His consumer conf has consumer
confidence improved? Not significantly.
It remains low. Has deflation been
resolved? No. The two key deflation
indicators, the PPI and the CPI, are
either declining further or showing
little change. Some argue she's policies
lack sufficient force. True, they could
be bolder. At the Davos forum, prominent
proy econ economist Jin Kuru suggested a
radical solution. Shift local officials
performance metrics from GDP to
consumption. She argued this could
reverse deflation. Many investment banks
endorsed her view. A major cause of
China's deflation is distorted
government KPIs. For years, the party
has prioritized the GDP as the key
measure of officials performance.
Naturally, officials focus on boosting
GDP to advance their careers. And what
drives GDP in China system? Production
and manufacturing. It's not just the
most effective short-term way to raise
GDP. It's practically the only way.
Consumption can also contribute to GDP,
but its impact is a slower and less
direct. As a result, officials
prioritize production, often ignoring
actual market demand, leading to over
capacity. In the past, this meant
excessive infrastructure. Now, it's
factories. However, I don't entirely
agree with the Jin Kuru. I believe China
cannot realistically adopt
consumptionbased KPIs. Consumption is a
challenging metric to enforce. GDP can
be boosted through investment or large
projects. A single major project can
quickly spike GDP. Local governments
create investment offices to target a
few hundred key entrepreneurs, secure
their support, and GDP rises.
Consumption however isn't driven by a
single figure or project. It involves
millions of people across society.
Boosting consumption requires better
welfare systems and higher incomes which
are indirect and slow. The government
can't mandate consumption with something
like a daily spending quota where
failure to spend enough restricts your
movement. That would collapse the
economy overnight.
Fundamentally, consumption as a KPI
conflicts with China's top-down system.
Consumption is a tied to people's
happiness, satisfaction, and welfare.
Quality is more aligned with a bottomup
democratic system. That's incompatible
with China's current structure. This is
the core issue. Many econ economists
analyzing China's economy focus too
heavily on economic theory, overlooking
the influence of its political system.
In China, politics always takes
precedence. It's the decisive factor.
This pattern extends beyond the birth
rates and deflation to areas like real
estate. I won't detail every case. She's
past policies have been problematic. But
what many haven't considered is that
even if his policies were flawless and
welldirected, they might only slow
China's economic decline, not reverse
it. That's the reality of China today.
What does this mean for ordinary people?
Why does recognizing this matter? I
believe understanding China's economic
challenges involves three stages of
mindset. The first is blind trust.
Accepting everything the party says as
correct and beneficial. This inevitably
leads to losses in any endeavor. The
second is hoping for a wise ruler
expecting someone like a hu to return.
This mindset believes that ousting she
and reverting to the reform and opening
era would revive the economy. Still
viewing the party as all powerful. The
third is reflecting on the system
realizing that as long as the party
structure remains, economic recovery is
impossible. It recognizes the party's
limitations.
Currently, many in China are stuck in
the second stage. They view she as
foolish, stubbornly clinging to flawed
policies while overestimating the
party's capabilities, believing that the
better policies would fix the economy.
In reality, she's policies over the past
six months, while some, like mandatory
social security are questionable, have
begun loosening economic controls. Many
policies echo the hua era, such as
lifting restrictions on the film and TV
industry, introducing child care
subsidies, and addressing involution by
deemphasizing production. Most notably,
Jack Mah has been welcomed back,
transitioning from a vilified capitalist
to a respected figure again. She's
recent policies are starting to appear
more reasonable.
Faced with these changes, are you still
in a second stage mindset or have you
reached the third? This choice is
pivotal. Consider the recent relaxation
of film and TV regulations. The party
issued a new broadcasting guidelines
removing the 40 episode limit for dramas
lifting caps on historical dramas and
promising less stringent censorship.
Film and TV stocks surged to 20% in a
day. How should you interpret this?
Those in the second stage might see this
as the party loosening its grip,
signaling a new golden age for the
industry and a rush to invest. Those in
the third stage, however, recognize that
this rally is temporary. Expecting
deregulation to usher in a flourishing
era for film and TV is unrealistic. The
extent of this relaxation is uncertain.
China's film industry struggles not only
due to content quality, but also
insufficient consumer spending, a
fundamental economic issue that the
relaxed controls can't fix.
I'm not saying you shouldn't invest in
these stocks, but you must understand
the rallies, cause and limits. You are
not profiting from an improving economy,
but from those stuck in the second
stage, hoping for a wise ruler. When the
rally peaks, it's time to exit. Don't
assume a single policy can transform an
industry's fundamentals. This pattern
applies elsewhere. Child care subsidies
led to a surge in baby related stock.
The reason the stock market rally stems
from anti-involution policies with the
markets believing reduced competition
will boost profits. The party isn't
oblivious. As the economy deteriorates,
it will reduce harmful policies. But
don't mistakenly believe that a few bad
policies will lead to recovery. The root
cause is the system. Avoiding
unrealistic expectations is the best way
to minimize losses. Shift from the
second stage to the third as soon as
possible. In a broader trend, a
collective shift from hoping for a
savior to disillusionment with the
government from the second stage to the
third is inevitable. It's just a matter
of who gets there first. Early adopters
benefit, late comers lose out. And who
drives this shift? the party itself.
Reality is the best teacher. China's
future will likely see small rallies
from favorable policies followed by
larger crashes. People will cry through
hope in the party, then despair and
finally awaken. This mirrors Japan
during its bubble burst. When Japan's
bubble collapsed, stocks still saw
temporary rallies. Why? People had
unrealistic faith in the government, not
in policy direction, but in financial
tools. Economic theory suggests that
lowering interest rates boost stock
prices, encourages borrowing spurs
consumption and revive the economy. So,
people believed in Japan's future and
stocks rose with the rate cuts. But
despite the frequent cuts and even zero
interest rates, consumption and
borrowing stalled. Only then did the
despair set in. Faith in policy crumbled
and the Japan's economy continued to
decline. Stepping back from narrow
financial tools, Japan's situation was
clear. Its per capita GDP was almost
equal to the United States. GDP reflects
productivity and it's unrealistic for
Japan to exceed the top developed nation
by such a margin. The rise was an
illusion driven by financial tools.
China faces a similar situation. The
limits of an authoritarian system are
evident. Many haven't realized that the
deepest despair isn't about losing hope
for the future. It's about losing hope
for changing the future. When people see
that even a wise she with perfect
policies can't reverse China's economic
decline, that's when true despair hits.
Yet, this despair can be positive. As
the saying goes, when things hit the
rock bottom, they can only improve. This
suits China's future. When the party's
repeated market interventions fail, it
signals a collective questioning of the
system. The party's authority will begin
to erode. Nobel Laurier Darren Au Marlo
in the narrow corridor argued that a
nation needs balanced government and
societal cap uh cap capacities for
progress. If one dominates, problems
arise. When societal capacity is too
strong, as in Latin America, issues like
a rampant drug cartels challenging the
government emerge, leading to near
anarchy. China is the opposite. Its
governmental capacity is overwhelmingly
dominant, suppressing societal capacity.
This immense power has defined China,
instilling fear and making people
believe the party is all powerful,
capable of solving any issue.
Many feel unable to challenge or
overthrow it. But as she's stimulus
policies fall fail to move the economy,
as they fail to change China's reality,
people will grow disappointed and
desparing, not just about the future,
but about the party's perceived ominate
potence. Its authority will start to
collapse. When most people stop
believing in the party's power and
recognize its system as the greatest
barrier to economic progress, that's the
foundation for a better future. Only
when mindsets reaches the third stage
can the parties downfall become
possible.
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