Plot Twist: SpaceX just Revealed Incredible “Stubby Starship” to Land on the Moon before China… === Intro 0:00 Stubby Starship: Pros and cons 0:38 Necessary preparations 7:44 Conclusion 11:35 === #greatspacex#elonmusk#spacex#nasa == Advertisers who want to place ads on our channel, please contact the email manager: [email protected] === SpaceX Starship SN Be the first to sponsor us Thank you. https://www.patreon.com/GreatspaceX?fan_landing=true Our video content is referenced by video sources at these sites: Sources TijnM : https://twitter.com/m_tijn https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDA8yz_nQY-0Uxd96-qxYjA Everyday Astronaut: https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut https://www.youtube.com/c/EverydayAstronaut Erc X: https://twitter.com/ErcXspace ErcX Space https://www.youtube.com/c/ErcXSpace/ Evan Karen: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDN1X8Fz1oAXX-rBcOWjzmg Stanley Creative: https://www.youtube.com/@StanleyCreative/ PRØXIMA ⁂ https://x.com/pr0ximacentaura PROXI Ch.2426 △ https://www.youtube.com/@Proxima_Channel.2426/videos SLS (Space Launch System): https://x.com/ScottLikedSLS Starship Gazer: https://twitter.com/StarshipGazer https://www.youtube.com/c/StarshipGazer === Plot Twist: SpaceX just Revealed Incredible “Stubby Starship” to Land on the Moon before China… Returning to the Moon with Starship sparks debate, given its immense height, need for orbital refilling, and other challenges. Yet history shows challenges invite solutions. One bold idea gaining traction is the “Stubby Starship”—a shorter, more compact design aimed at easing many of the original vehicle’s hurdles. By downsizing, obstacles once daunting may become manageable. But how practical is this unconventional approach, and could it shape future missions? Let’s explore on today’s episode of Great SpaceX. Plot Twist: SpaceX just Revealed Incredible “Stubby Starship” to Land on the Moon before China… More than fifty years after Apollo 17, humanity is once again racing for a return to the Moon. This time, the leading role has been given to SpaceX with its giant Starship rocket, chosen by NASA as the vehicle for the first two crewed lunar landings under the Artemis program. The stakes are immense, the expectations are sky-high, and the questions are many. Yet skepticism remains strong. The first source of doubt comes from Starship’s own progress. Despite years of development, Starship has not yet successfully reached orbit, has not demonstrated the full reusability that was promised, and has not rolled out a dedicated Human Landing System, or HLS, prototype. In addition, the support infrastructure required for such an ambitious spacecraft is far from complete. That includes the complex refilling system in orbit, which is absolutely critical to Starship’s long-term plan for reaching the Moon and Mars. Plot Twist: SpaceX just Revealed Incredible “Stubby Starship” to Land on the Moon before China… The second challenge is Starship’s size. Its immense height, towering more than 50 meters tall even in its stripped-down HLS variant, creates serious concerns about landing safely on the Moon’s uneven terrain. Without robust landing pads or support structures in place, the vehicle risks toppling during those first critical missions. Furthermore, its vast size requires huge amounts of fuel, which means it must be refilled in Earth orbit after already burning through much of its propellant simply to reach space. Developing a refueling system capable of transferring and storing cryogenic fuel in orbit is among the most difficult engineering problems in modern spaceflight. So, is there a realistic solution to these problems?
Returning to the moon with Starship
sparks debate given its immense height,
need for orbital refueling, and other
challenges. Yet, history shows
challenges invite solutions. One bold
idea gaining traction is the stubby
Starship, a shorter, more compact design
aimed at easing many of the original
vehicles hurdles. By downsizing,
obstacles once daunting may become
manageable. But how practical is this
unconventional approach? And could it
shape future missions? Let's explore on
today's episode of Great SpaceX. More
than 50 years after Apollo 17, humanity
is once again racing for a return to the
moon. This time, the leading role has
been given to SpaceX with its giant
Starship rocket chosen by NASA as the
vehicle for the first two crude lunar
landings under the Aremis program. The
stakes are immense, the expectations are
sky-high, and the questions are many.
Yet, skepticism remains strong. The
first source of doubt comes from
Starship's own progress. Despite years
of development, Starship has not yet
successfully reached orbit, has not
demonstrated the full reusability that
was promised, and has not rolled out a
dedicated human landing system or HLS
prototype. In addition, the support
infrastructure required for such an
ambitious spacecraft is far from
complete. That includes the complex
refilling system in orbit, which is
absolutely critical to Starship's
long-term plan for reaching the moon and
Mars. The second challenge is Starship's
size. Its immense height, towering over
50 m tall, even in its stripped down HLS
variant, creates serious concerns about
landing safely on the moon's uneven
terrain. Without robust landing pads or
support structures in place, the vehicle
risks toppling during those first
critical missions. Furthermore, its vast
size requires huge amounts of fuel,
which means it must be refilled in Earth
orbit after already burning through much
of its propellant simply to reach space.
Developing a refueling system capable of
transferring and storing cryogenic fuel
in orbit is among the most difficult
engineering problems in modern space
flight. So, is there a realistic
solution to these problems? Recently, a
fascinating proposal has been gaining
traction, and that is called the stubby
Starship. This concept envisions a
shorter and lighter version of Starship
designed specifically for the Aremis
landings. While it would still be based
on the current Starship architecture and
possibly share features with the planned
HLS design, its most radical change
would be its size. Instead of more than
50 m tall, Stubby Starship would stand
only 10 to 20 m, cutting its height
dramatically. Along with this reduction
in size comes a major weight advantage.
By eliminating much of the central
barrel section along with redesigning
its propellant tanks, legs, and crew
elevator, Stubby Starship could weigh
around 30 tons less than the already
heavy 110 ton Starship HLS. What
benefits would this bring? Firstly,
smaller size means faster production. A
compact vehicle can be built more
quickly with fewer materials and tested
sooner. That directly addresses concerns
about the pace of Starship's
development. If SpaceX pursued this
path, it's possible that a prototype
could be ready as early as the middle of
next year, putting it on a timeline that
would align better with NASA's schedule
for Artemis missions. Secondly, reducing
height effectively tackles the issue of
landing stability. A shorter vehicle has
a lower center of gravity and is
therefore much less likely to tip over
when touching down on the moon's rugged
surface. It would give SpaceX greater
flexibility in choosing landing sites
and greater confidence in using
traditional vertical legs rather than
more exotic solutions like horizontal
landings. Additionally, the shorter
height would make it far easier for
astronauts to travel from the crew cabin
to the lunar surface and to move cargo,
rovers, and scientific equipment in and
out of the vehicle. Another crucial
advantage comes from fuel requirements.
The stubby Starship design appears to
hold around 400 tons of propellant,
which is significantly less than the
massive demand of the full Starship HLS.
This means it would require only four to
five refueling flights in orbit instead
of the more than 10 that might otherwise
be necessary. That reduction could be
the difference between meeting deadlines
and falling hopelessly behind. Of
course, critics will point out that
reducing size also reduces performance.
A smaller Starship cannot carry as much
cargo, nor can it conduct all the
maneuvers of its larger counterpart. But
here is where the mission design becomes
important. Analysts note that much of
the fuel burden in Starship HLS comes
from attempting to perform the trans
lunar injection or TLI burn itself. This
maneuver requires burning 1,200 to,600
tons of propellant to push the
spacecraft from Earth orbit toward the
moon. However, carrying all of that fuel
along with tanks and plumbing means
dragging dead weight once on the lunar
surface. The proposal suggests
offloading this responsibility to a
support vehicle or orbital depot. Stubby
Starship would launch into low Earth
orbit, dock with the system, and be
pushed into near rectalinear halo orbit
or NRH near the moon. From there, it
would operate exactly as NASA intends,
fing astronauts to the lunar surface and
returning them safely to Orion. As for
cargo capacity, the earliest Aremis
missions do not require enormous
payloads. The first landings will last
only a few days and will focus primarily
on delivering four astronauts. Their
life support supplies and a few key
instruments such as rovers and science
packages. A smaller Starship is more
than capable of handling those modest
loads. The potential benefits are
obvious. By simplifying operations,
reducing fuel demands, and accelerating
timelines, Stubby could allow NASA and
SpaceX to meet their commitments and
beat international competitors to the
moon. China, in particular, has been
making steady progress with a clear
roadmap for crude, lunar landings, and
even permanent bases. Many analysts
warned that the US could fall behind if
Artemis slips further. A bold rethinking
like Stubby could be the key to keeping
America in the lead. Yet, every idea has
two sides, and Stubby faces enormous
challenges. First, reaching orbit with a
smaller upper stage means the booster
must do more work. This could make Super
Heavy non-reusable for these missions,
which would significantly increase
costs. Second, developing the orbital
depot or TUG required for the TLI
maneuver is not trivial. It would have
to be launched ahead of time, fully
fueled, and capable of transferring
propellant in space. Even if Stubby
reduces the number of refueling flights,
it still requires at least some orbital
refueling, which is a technology that
has never been demonstrated at scale.
Third, SpaceX itself may resist the
idea. The company has been pushing
Starship toward greater size and
capability, not less. Starship's
ultimate purpose is not only the moon,
but Mars, where enormous payload
capacity will be essential. Stubby seems
like a temporary solution, useful only
for early Artemis missions before
infrastructure such as landing pads,
depots, and capture towers exist. Would
SpaceX devote resources to building a
vehicle that might become obsolete in
just a few years? These are serious
questions. So, is Stubby the right path
forward? On one hand, it promises faster
progress, safer landings, and fewer
refueling headaches. On the other hand,
it introduces new complexities and may
not align with SpaceX's long-term
strategy. The truth of the matter is the
moon race is not just about technology.
It's also about politics, timelines, and
competition. If NASA and SpaceX need a
shortcut to get boots back on the moon
before others, Stubby might be the bold,
unconventional answer. What do you
think? Should SpaceX pursue this smaller
version, or should they stay the course
with the full-sized Starship HLS? Let me
know with a yes or a no in the comments.
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following SpaceX's incredible journey
toward the moon and beyond. Now whether
SpaceX ultimately chooses Stubby or
continues with the full-size version,
there's no escaping the fact that a
tremendous amount of preparation still
lies ahead. Before any variant can be
applied to lunar missions, SpaceX must
first complete the fundamental
capabilities of Starship itself. Every
step of the flight sequence has to be
mastered and validated on Earth before
anyone can seriously think about
applying them to the moon. There are
several crucial steps that explicitly
relate to lunar operations. The very
first is for Starship to successfully
reach orbit. This is the absolute
baseline standard for any space vehicle.
And although SpaceX has come close in
previous test flights, the full
demonstration has not yet been achieved.
Many analysts predict that this
milestone may not arrive with flight 11
or even flight 12, but more likely
around flight 13. Only when orbital
flight is confirmed can Starship prove
itself competitive against other
vehicles and begin to be considered as a
reliable lunar transport system. Once
Starship is able to reach orbit
consistently, the next tasks come into
play. These include payload deployment
and engine relight. Payload deployment
will be essential because Starship will
be tasked with delivering large amounts
of cargo and equipment to the moon's
surface. To build confidence in this
capability, SpaceX must soon demonstrate
real payload delivery. Their stated
target is to place a 100 tons into
orbit, a goal planned for next year. But
this will not be enough to do only once.
Starship needs to show it can repeat
this performance multiple times with
reliability. The ability to relight
engines in orbit is another fundamental
step as it will be critical for
navigation, course correction, and
ultimately for performing trans lunar
maneuvers. Following the orbital phase,
SpaceX will have to demonstrate advanced
landing capabilities. This is perhaps
the most challenging and most
anticipated step. For now, only the
booster has shown successful landings.
While the upper stage or ship has yet to
achieve this goal, many expect that ship
landings will not occur until sometime
next year. Nonetheless, mastering ship
landings on Earth will be the primary
prerequisite for landing on the moon,
where the stakes are much higher.
Moreover, achieving safe and consistent
ship landings will unlock the full
potential of reusability, which is at
the very heart of Starship's design
philosophy. Beyond these flight related
challenges, SpaceX must also navigate
the process of transitioning between
vehicle versions. After flight 11, the
company plans to move to version three.
Yet, even beyond that, leaks have
suggested that version 4 may be targeted
for 2027. SpaceX must determine which
design variant will be stable enough for
long-term lunar missions as constant
redesigns can create confusion and
delays. Meanwhile, the first Starship
HLS prototypes need to be launched for
early testing and mission preparation
since NASA's schedule demands results
soon. Speaking of NASA, their
partnership is another critical factor.
Regardless of which Starship version is
ultimately used, it'll need to integrate
smoothly with NASA vehicles during the
crew transfer process. That means NASA
must also maintain steady progress with
its part of the Artemis program. Any
delays or setbacks on their side could
cascade into SpaceX's timelines. On the
ground, infrastructure is just as
important as the rockets themselves. The
production system anchored by the
Staractory and stacking base must run at
full capacity to keep up with mission
demand. Since the return to the moon
will not be about oneoff flights, but
rather the beginning of base building
efforts, the number of missions required
will be significantly higher. To match
that demand, both the testing and launch
systems must expand and improve. The
testing program has been paused since
the S36 incident, and it is urgent that
it return with upgrades tailored for
newer vehicle versions. Similarly, the
launch pads at both Starbase and Florida
must be completed and brought fully
online. Progress has been made, but much
work remains before they can support a
consistent flight rate. In summary,
SpaceX faces a mountain of tasks that
need to be urgently completed in the
coming period. The race to the moon is
intensifying, and while the US still
leads in most respects, the Aremis
program is not without significant
risks. High costs, technical complexity,
and delays can to fuel concern that the
US could stumble in this new space race.
Yet, history has shown that
breakthroughs often emerge under
pressure. Stubby, while unconventional,
is an example of the kind of bold idea
that could change the game. It offers
potential to simplify operations,
accelerate readiness, and ease some of
the logistical hurdles. Whether or not
it becomes the chosen path, it
demonstrates that innovation remains
alive and well in the effort to return
humans to the moon. But of course, not
everyone will support such an idea.
Critics argue that Stubby may not align
with the long-term plans and could
represent a diversion of resources.
Still, in a race where the ultimate goal
is victory, the question becomes, if an
unconventional solution works, why not
pursue it? The answers will begin to
emerge in the months ahead. By early or
mid next year, we may see the first
mandatory Starship HLS prototype take
flight, setting the stage for official
missions. Until then, the world will be
watching closely as SpaceX, NASA, and
their partners make the critical
decisions that will determine whether
America can once again lead humanity
back to the moon. In any case, folks,
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