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>> I need some advice on how I can break it
to my wife that we are broke and that we
are $500,000 in debt.
>> Wow.
>> Why does she not know this?
>> I take care of all of our finances. Um,
she has a credit card that she swipes
and doesn't have to worry about
anything. Um,
>> yes, she should. It's
>> just something that I've taken advantage
of and, you know, gotten us even deeper
with not including her in this
uh spending ordeal.
>> Mhm.
>> How long y'all been married?
>> We've been together since we were 16 and
we're I'm 26 and she is 25.
>> You got married when you were 16?
>> 10 years. No, we've been dating since 16
and we got married in 2022.
>> She'd been married three years.
Yes. You
>> ran up a half a million dollars in debt
in three years.
>> Yes.
>> What the crap did you buy?
>> Well, I went from an income of 25,000 in
2022 to an income of 160 150,000 in 23.
And then year to date for 25, I'm at
195,000
just myself.
>> Yeah. That doesn't explain how you went
a half million dollars in debt. your
income.
>> Your house too, Jim. Does that include
your house?
>> It does.
>> How much do you owe on your home?
>> 330,000.
>> Okay. She knows that.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. And what is the other $170,000 in
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>> What is the other $170,000 in debt?
>> We have two vehicle loans and majority
of the other debt is credit cards. Okay.
So, the two vehicle loans amount to
what?
>> My vehicle is 50,000 and hers is 35.
>> Okay. And she's aware of those.
>> She is.
>> Okay. And and so
>> which those are just reoccurring
payments that
>> I know. I know. But she's not it's not
like she The way you describe this is
like there's a half million dollars in
debt my wife doesn't know about. Yes,
she does. It's about 80,000 of credit
card debt that she may not understand is
floating out there,
>> but she's been running running her
credit card around like she's in
Congress, so she probably has a clue
about that, too.
>> She may not think it's 80. She may think
15 to 20.
>> Okay. So, you guys are you guys are you
said 26 years old.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, let's re let's fra reframe
this a little bit then. Okay. Uh, what
you're really asking is how do I get my
wife to get on a plan because our
current plan sucks.
>> Correct.
>> Okay. Not how do I tell her about a half
million dollar in debt she doesn't know.
Cuz that's not true. She does know about
it. Yeah.
>> All right. So, what I would do is say
this. Say, "Hun, I gave this a shot. I'm
a new husband. I didn't know what I was
doing. But I am getting very afraid with
our current trajectory that even though
we make a lot of money that we're going
to be broke and we are really broke
right now making $190,000 a year. We
have car payments, we have house
payments, we have credit cards are out
of control. And you and I are going to
have to work together to get on a
different system than the one we've been
using. Because the one we've been using,
which is me just doing letting you do
anything you want to do and me not
telling anybody anything, those are two
really bad ideas and we're going to stop
doing that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm waving the white flag
and I'm not I'm not doing this anymore.
I can't and I'm sorry I haven't told you
about the credit card. Like
>> this is everything.
>> I don't think you were deceiving
someone. Uh I think you're concerned
that you you've never told her no and
now you get the opportunity for her to
be an adult and tell herself no.
>> Correct. Yes. How do you think that's
going to go?
>> She's easygoing. I think it'll go okay.
Um,
it's just handing the ball over to
someone else.
>> No, we're not handing the ball over to
somebody else.
The two of you are going to sit down
together like two grown-ups instead of
daddy and daughter.
>> Okay?
>> You're like a daddy spoiling his only
daughter.
Instead, you're going to say, "Honey,
we're going to sit down like two adults
now, and here's how much money is coming
in,
>> and here's what we owe on the house, and
here's what we have to pay on these
stupid cars, and we make $190,000 a
year, and we're broke because we're out
of control. We don't have a system, and
we buy everything in sight. So, we
together need to figure out how we as
two grown-ups are going to exist on
freaking 200 grand a year at 26 years
old." W.
>> Well, that's just my income.
>> What does she make than hers?
>> What does she make?
>> Uh 55,000 a year.
>> Well, then let's try it again. 100 or
$245,000 a year. We make a quarter of a
million dollars a year and we are broke.
>> So, because our system sucks so bad,
>> we start on Xing out some of this debt.
>> I recommend that the two of you sit down
and have a come to Jesus meeting tonight
and say, "Here's what our total income
is per month. here's what we have to
spend on the house. Here's what we have
to spend on these cars. We have this
much in credit card debt. And we have to
buy some food and lights. Let's figure
this out. And all of a sudden, you guys
are going to go, "Holy crap, we're out
of control." Both of you are going to
have that moment. You've already had the
moment. You're just trying to figure out
how to navigate the fact that you're not
doing it by yourself anymore. Dude, that
was a bad idea to start with, and we're
stopping that right now because you get
two benefits. One is you get another
brain involved to help you. Uh the other
thing the benefit you get is you don't
have to carry all the stress by
yourself. Yeah. Oh, and the other
benefit is she suddenly is as a grown-up
is going to buy into a future plan. A
plan that takes us to a solid future
versus I just do whatever I want to do.
>> Yeah. And the good thing is Jim, you
guys are going to see as you start
mapping this out. It's going to be Yeah.
It's going to be fast. I mean like after
taxes
>> Okay.
>> If after taxes and you guys say you
lived on 90,000, you know, that frees
up. It's like oh my gosh. I mean you you
debtree in a year.
>> Yeah. $110,000 put towards this debt.
You could be completely filed for 2024.
>> What? What' you say?
>> Okay, put that on the list.
>> File my taxes for what do you owe there?
What What do you owe there? What will
the tax bill be?
>> I just spoke with the tax lady today. Um
I paid 25,000 in 2023.
So I'm reckoning.
>> You've not set any money aside for your
taxes? Are you 1099 or something?
>> I am 1099.
>> Okay. And you've not done any quarterly
estimates?
>> I have not.
>> Your tax lady sucks.
>> How in the world are you making that
kind of money and not doing quarterly
estimates?
>> What?
>> She did and I moved on to another tax
lady.
>> Oh, she wanted to do quarterly
estimates.
>> No, she didn't give me any advice.
Nowhere to go. Just kind of send me what
your income is and I'll tell you what
you owe.
>> Okay. Yeah. Go to Ramseyolutions.com and
you can find one of the endorsed local
providers for taxes. The Ramsey trusted
people to help. You need to be doing
quarterly estimates. But now you got
another 25,000 or 40,000 or whatever it
is. It's on this list of things you've
got to address. But dude, you got to
start you seven. Yeah. Yeah. You guys
can start knocking this out, Jim. So,
what I would do is sit down tonight. You
guys need to list out all of your debt.
I would include the IRS bill in that and
that'll be first. Then list out every
credit card and what you guys owe on it.
Cut them up. both car loans, cut them
up, be done with it, and you start
working your way the smallest debt
first. Well, the IRS is going to be
paid, so get that paid first.
>> This is not you telling your wife what
to do. No,
>> this is you saying, "Honey, join me in
being a grown-up
>> and living on less than we make."
>> And that you're not going to do this by
yourself anymore, Jim. Tell her that
that every month we're going to sit down
and reook at this plan.
>> I need some help. I need your help
together.
>> Yeah. This is our future together and we
don't have one right now because the way
we've been doing this is straight up
stupid and it's got to stop. And that's
okay. Just wave the white flag like
Rachel said because you guys are young.
Surrender. You got plenty of time this.
Yes.
>> You make a lot of money.
>> You guys could be multi-millionaires.
>> You're going to be okay. You start this.
Yes.
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