Adapting the Ruth Stout method for clay soil.

FFG - Food Forest Garden
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Today, I'm showing you how I'm preparing some of my garden for trying a deep mulch method. I'm following the Ruth Stout method but adding something to help amend clay soil. Let me know what you think, and thanks for watching.
Hey guys, welcome back. I hope you're doing good to see me. Well, here it is
It's just the first week of October, but I'm already
Getting started on preparing my garden for next year
And so I've decided to do something that I've never done before what I'm going to do is a no-till
deep mulch
method and I've picked out a spot right here behind me then I'm going to try this and
After doing a lot of reading and I even watched a few videos and stuff. I've decided to try
The roost out method, but I'm gonna kind of do a variation of that for a
Very specific reason and I'm going to show you everything
That I'm doing and explain why I'm doing it. And so
As I said, this is this is my first time trying this so I would love to hear what you guys have to say in
the comments
Well, let's go ahead and get started
All right. So let me explain to you why I have never done a no-till deep mulch
garden before
Okay, so when you dig down
the first few inches
in my garden
The soil doesn't look all that bad
It's it's what I consider halfway decent soil
But here's what happens when you go just a little bit deeper
Okay. So once you get down below that five six inches and you start digging down there
This is the kind of soil that I have
and
It really starts turning into you know that that clay and
There's there's not a lot of tilth to it. You know, it's just it's just
you know hard for roots to get down into this when it's it's it's so hard and
So for the last several years, I've been doing something to try to correct this. So let me explain
Okay, so let me start out by saying this because I don't want to
Unintentionally mislead somebody you cannot make clay soil better by just tilling it
You will make it worse
Okay. Now what I have been doing over the last several years is I've been putting organic matter in
different ways in
My garden and then I'll till it in whether I'm doing sheet mulching or I'm just killing it in in the fall
however, but
You cannot you cannot
break clay soil up by tilling it and think that it's that's a permanent fix it is not and
You take it one step further. I do not know any way of amending
clay soil
Without using organic matter
You can use fertilizers and stuff to make the plants grow
But you're not going to change the composition of your soil in my opinion
The only way of doing this is to add large amounts of organic matter
now the reason why I picked that what that soil that I showed you over there is where I'm going to
Do this roost out variation is because I really haven't
Amended it a whole lot. That's kind of a newer part to my garden and I've planted pumpkins there
So I did amend parts of it, but I really haven't spent a lot of time changing the soil
So that's really going to tell me
How this you know, I hate to say experiment but how doing this
you know no till is going to work out because I
Really believe from what I've read and everything that I'm going to have to do this for several years
You know before I see any change in that soil, so let me show you what I'm getting ready to do
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I really would appreciate it and as always it is free now this part roost out never did
And I'm going to show you what I'm getting ready to do and why I'm doing it
So if you watch my channel, you probably already had this figured out
but I am going to put some manure down before I add the hay and this is
some really good aged pig manure
And I don't think it matters
What kind of manure you use and I don't believe it matters
Whether it's aged whether it's fresh and
I'll explain that here in a second. But what I'm using this has probably been on the ground since
Early spring late winter and
it
It is breaking down pretty good. And so I think it's going to work really good for this rest out method
Okay, so if you're wanting to try this
Depending on when you're going to plan you you could probably go ahead and use very fresh manure
Here in West Central, Indiana. It's October and I'm not going to plant anything where I'm going to put this until probably
April probably May even and so that's going to give even fresh manure plenty of time to break down
You know pig manure chicken manure. I I don't want it anywhere near my plants unless it has been aged at least
Five to six months, maybe a little more for chicken manure
So I've got plenty of time for this to go ahead and break down
Alright, so before I put this manure down
I want to show you the size of the bed that I'm going to use for this no-till and kind of the
Condition that it is in right now
So from these posts
You can see that one all the way back
Down to here where I've got a little space in between these these garden beds, so to speak
It's about right here. That's about 20 foot and so it is
about 15 foot wide
And you can see I didn't till it
There I just mowed it down and there's already, you know weeds starting to
Come back up. And so that's what I'm that's what I'm looking at
Trying to amend with this no-till
all right, so
Actually for a 20 by 15 foot area
It took me six wheelbarrow loads of manure, but I did put it on kind of thick
now I
Don't know why Ruth Stout never used manure
Maybe she just didn't need it. Maybe her soil is better than my soil
I'm not here to argue with you know, the wisdom of Ruth Stout. She was an awesome gardener
But this is where I think I can amend my clay soil
And if you have clay soil doing a no-till this is going to help you
Okay, I can't till this in like I normally would like I talked about at the start of the video
So I'm going to need some help. And so that help is going to come into
the form of microbes
microorganisms all that and
worms
okay, so
The worms are going to come up and they're going to eat this manure
Well, they're going to create tunnels channels, whatever you want to call them and as this manure breaks down
All them nutrients are going to hopefully get put down into that soil
Down into that clay part that I was showing you where you know when I plant
Them roots can go down in there and it's soft and they get those nutrients
And so that is where I think I'm going to kind of help amend that clay soil, but there's more to it than that
When I put this hay on here
You know, that's going to break down. Hay kind of tends to break down quick anyway, so the part that is touching
the
Manure and the microbes in the ground touching the manure all that in eight months that should break down
Really well and that's going to create nutrients for my plants
And so you can see that obviously that layer of manure is not even you know
There's highs and lows in it. Well, that's another thing when I put that hay on top
That's going to create air pockets and what you know when I put it on there thick
It's going to keep the ground warm. It's going to keep it from freezing
There's going to be warm air there so those worms and those microbes are going to work a lot more
Doing it this way. They're going to have a lot more
Warm time so to speak through the winter then like my traditional method, not traditional, but my method of tilling it in
You know, it's just going to create a warmer environment so that's going to be a plus to using this manure
Well, how much hay am I going to use? How much am I going to put on top?
Well, let me show you. All right, so to answer the question how much hay am I going to use a
lot a lot and
What I'm going to do
I'm going to take a wheelbarrow load and do exactly that
Across this whole area now. I am at an advantage when it comes to hay
Okay, so to be a little more definitive on how thick I'm going to put that hay down
I would like to have about 10 to 12 inches now. Here's the advantage that I have
Okay, I've got one two three big bales of hay and
I've got that partial one over there. I can buy more
Because it comes right here from this field. I know the guy that bales it. He does not spray it
You know, so I know everything is organic
So
I'm fortunate in for that reason now. I did make a video
I think it was last January about two big considerations if you're going to try
You know a roost out or a back to Eden gardening about how much materials it takes
Even with all that I could not do a deep mulch
The whole area of my garden so that is one big thing to consider if you're going to try
you know to do this a no-till deep mulch make sure you have enough material because
This hay this 10 or 12 inches of hay is what's going to be
Hopefully my weed barrier. So you really want to stop and think about that
Okay, so what I'm going to do over the next couple of days is I'm just going to keep adding
More and more hay to this and then I will probably the next time I clean out my chicken coop
I'm going to put that on there because they'll still be plenty of time for that that chicken manure to break down
Now as this goes through the winter, you know, it's it's going to compress and hey
Like I said, it does kind of break down
Fairly quickly, so I'm going to have to add more to this, you know, probably throughout the winter
But this isn't you know, probably just a one-time experiment from everything I've read
next spring I might not do as
Good because it really all these organic materials really haven't broke down as good as they could have
You know, the soil is not quite as amended as it could be and so I think you're going to look at year two and
Three for something like this to see how good it works. And so I'm planning on doing it really
for three years anyway, just to see but you know, it's kind of an exciting thing and if somebody has a
Good idea on what to plant that first year, please share it in the comments
I've got my ideas, but um other than that, you know, just let me know what you think
Well, that's the video and you guys have a good evening. I'll talk to you later. See you
