כדי לדון בהסכם השלום בנושא עזה שוחחה מגישת חדשות NTD עם סטיב ייטס, עמית בכיר ומומחה למדיניות ביטחון לאומי "בקרן המורשת" ולשעבר סגן היועץ לביטחון הלאומי של סגן נשיא ארה"ב, דיק צ'ייני.
לדבריו: "זוהי עיסקה לא שוויונית, אבל זה מחיר השלום. ישראל נשמעת מוכנה, מעוניינת ומסוגלת לפעול בכיוון הזה בתמיכה של ארה"ב. אני חושב באמת ובתמים מעבר לכך, שההצלחה או הכישלון מונחים על כתפי הקואליציה של "הסכמי אברהם" שתעשה קסמים בסיוע שלה לשמור על השלום ובסיוע שלה לאכוף את התנאים, ותשקיע בשיקום ובפיתוח בניסיון לשמור על השלום".
"יהיה צורך להיזהר מפני השפעות זרות אחרות שהן תחליפים של איראן, כמו החמאס או ארגונים אחרים שיחזרו לפעול בשמות אחרים זאת תהיה משימת "גינון" בלתי פוסק כדי להבטיח שלא צומחים עשבים שוטים. אז אני מקווה שיש מספיק מומנטום עם בעלות הברית הערביות האלה, כולל מצרים שימלאו תפקיד חיובי שיסייע בשיקום ובפיוס. זה יעניק לישראל מרחב נשימה. זה יתן לארה"ב מרחב פעולה גדול למען סדר יום אזורי חיובי רחב יותר, שהיה מלכתחילה בחזון של "הסכמי אברהם"", מוסיף ייטס.
בהתייחס לתגובת המשטר הסיני אומר ייטס: "בייג'ינג אינה מגלה שקיפות בכל הנוגע לאופן שבו יש בכוונתה לפעול... סין נמצאת בקונפליקט, כי ככל שארה"ב זוקפת לזכותה השכנת שלום ואת העובדה שהיא מנסה לומר לאנשים לא לשנות את הסטטוס קוו בכוח אלא רק באמצעות משא ומתן כלכלי ומדיני, זהו מסר מרומז לבייג'ינג, שהיא אינה צריכה לשאוף לשנות את הסטטוס קוו באזור האינדו-פסיפי בכוח, אלא במשא ומתן כלכלי ומדיני בלבד". ____________________
And joining us now to discuss the Gaza peace deal is Steve Yates. He's a senior fellow for
national security policy at the Heritage Foundation. Steve, as always, thank you so much for joining
us now. One of the deal is to release all remaining hostages. President Trump saying
as soon as Monday or Tuesday now, Israel will release roughly 2,000 Palestinian prisoners and
withdraw its troops to an agreed upon line. What will this peace deal look like in practice?
Well, that is the first acid test. There should never have been hostages taken.
It should be stunning to people no matter what their view is of how the war has been conducted
over time. You were talking about a very few people left alive after two years being returned,
some remains being returned, and thousands of people who have engaged in likely combatant
behavior going back the other way. It's an uneven deal, but it is the price for peace.
Israel sounds ready, willing, and able to go in that direction with the backing of the United
States. But I think deeply behind this, success or failure on this rests with the Abraham Accords
Coalition doing its magic to help be the peacekeepers, help enforce the terms, and be
the investors for reconstruction and development to try to hold the peace. It's really ultimately
that revival of the Abraham Accords Coalition and maybe growing it that will be more significant
than the US and Israel and the leaders in the Palestinian areas at this point.
Indirect talks, of course, were held in Egypt, but part 15 of the plan says the Temporary
International Stabilization Force, or ISF, will work with Israel and Egypt to help secure border
areas along with newly trained Palestinian police forces. What do you make of the mention of Egypt
here? Well, Egypt obviously matters, a very, very important neighbor to this very territory,
and conspicuously did not open its border through this two-year period for migrants to flow out of
the Palestinian areas into Egypt's sovereign territory. It is, I think, kind of an indication
of why this is step 15 and not step five. That is the mix of the countries that will be involved in
this and what kind of role actual military or military-like personnel will play in this
territory to help enforce the peace is going to be a sticky issue to go through. Watching out for
other foreign influences that are either the surrogates for Iran that were Hamas or others
reviving in different names, it's going to be a constant gardening exercise to make sure weeds
don't grow. Hopefully, there's enough momentum with these Arab allies, including Egypt,
to be a positive force for reconstruction and reconciliation. That would give Israel
room to breathe. It would give the United States a lot of latitude to work for that
broader positive regional agenda that the Abraham Accords envisioned in the first place.
Of course, before the October 7th attacks, the Saudis were in talks to join the Abraham
Accords. Now, with this deal now signed, how likely are we to see the Abraham Accords expand,
and which countries would likely sign on? Well, in theory, I think that it was an
historic framework, really just, I think, a once-in-a-century kind of strategic event
that could change the way people think and organize in a meaningful way, affecting global
energy markets, affecting global security. It was really just that profound. I see the
Abraham Accords platform as immensely important and valuable and worthy of expansion. There was
good reason to believe Saudi Arabia would be a natural partner in that at some point. I think
we'd have to just candidly assess, how does this process unfold with the Gaza ceasefire? And as
things look to move in the right direction, and cooperation is positive among the right partners,
that will just make the environment more natural for Saudi Arabia and others to say,
yes, this is a framework that is good for our interests, good for the region, and we want to
be a part of it. Zooming out a bit here, Steve, during your time as Deputy National Security
Advisor at the White House, the war on terror pivoted the U.S. focus and resources to the
Middle East and away from China. Now, you're actually just in Taiwan, so how is Beijing
likely watching this peace deal and what that means for its calculus in terms of a possible
invasion on Taiwan? Well, we can forever analyze how Beijing is going to look, and we will,
of course, because it's important and it's hard to understand in no small part because
Beijing is not transparent about what it's going to do. But obviously, Taiwan, Japan, the Philippines
have been on the receiving end of some bullying and aggressive territorial claims and aggressive
military modernization seeks to overwhelm them across that first island chain and beyond.
And China, in some ways, has to be conflicted in this regard because the more the United States is
credited with making peace and trying to tell people to not change the status quo by force,
but by economic and political negotiations only, that's an implicit message to Beijing, too,
that it should not be looking to change the status quo in the Indo-Pacific by force, instead by
economic and political negotiations only. That's the way they should look at it. Now, of course,
they also love to see the United States tied down in Europe, the Middle East, and then maybe have a
freer hand in the Indo-Pacific. But with a new, more conservative government coming in in Japan,
with the Philippines awakened, and with the United States maybe getting the first taste of success in
the Middle East, Beijing should look more seriously about this non-military approach
to achieving some objectives.