⚡Top Psychic Reveals: Earth’s Massive Energy Battle & How To Stay In The Light! | Lisa Campion

I feel like as humans, we, when we're, when our backs up against the wall, our nature is to help each other. I mean, we may have to let go. We may have to change. We're going to have to change. We're going to have to let go of some things, but if you're smart and you're entrepreneurial, you're going to see some opportunities always. I think something's going to happen. That's going to unite us. I don't see like another massive world war. I don't see like big nukes going off. I don't, you know, I don't see that happening. Now, before we jump into this episode, if this conversation resonates with you, please like, subscribe and share this with whoever you feel that needs to hear it. Your support helps us keep bringing this information out into the world and helps us awaken this planet. Thank you. I'd like to welcome the show, Lisa Campion. How you do, Lisa? I'm so good. Thank you so much for being here. I'm delighted to be on your podcast. I'm a huge fan. It's a great podcast you have. So thank you for having me. Oh, of course. Well, thank you so much for the kind words. I appreciate it. You're doing you're doing some really great work in the world, trying to help awaken the planet and help people connect with their own abilities. And I think I'm noticing that's a kind of a theme now with a lot of my guests and friends who are like they're trying to show people how they could do a lot of the things that were before people only on a pedestal, like channeling or being psychic, connecting to their intuition, connecting with their higher self before. Is that something that you're noticing in the world right now in general, like a push for that kind of teachings? Yeah, and it's to me, it's a huge relief because like I was born in the 60s and I grew up in the 60s, 70s and 80s in a world where this was taboo, like you couldn't talk about this. And, you know, or you'd end up like in the mental hospital if you saw that, you know, you said you saw angels and talked to dead Uncle Fred. I was not going to go well for you. So so I learned early on to be really quiet about what I was experiencing. I've been psychic really my whole life and my some of my very first memories are of that. And it was pretty painful, honestly, you know, like it was kind of crappy and it couldn't find any information, no books in the library, no Internet. You know, it's very isolating and a little scary. So I I've been I was lucky I had some really beautiful, like sort of spiritual interventions along my path. But I I'm super excited to live in a world these days where that's not true so much, you know, like we have so much information available. There's so many resources, fantastic teachers, podcasts like what you know what you're doing that really can, you know, give bring this information out to people in the world as they're needing it. And I also feel like people are becoming more psychic, becoming more aware, you know, having more psychic experiences, more things that, you know, are really readily available to us like yoga and meditation and Reiki. And, you know, even psychedelics that used to be like you would have to climb to the mountain into bed and like crying on the temple door, like, you know, maybe they would let you in and teach you Reiki and yoga and meditation. You know, now we have it around so much that I think people are just more in general waking up spiritually and identifying that they have gifts and then finding more resources to train those. I think it's a beautiful thing, because, you know, the more awake people on the planet there are, the better that's going to go for all of us. I would agree with you 100 percent. Now, you say that you've been psychic most of your life. I love to go back to when you were a child, because I can imagine, you know, you and I are of similar vintage. So I was I remember when this was the taboo. You never talked about it. And it was just something that there was no information. And it's hard for people listening today. They're like, there was no Internet. We had an encyclopedia and it was locked in a library and a lot which was locked in, essentially not really up to date. The latest information is a lot of times. So when you started to sense this stuff, was it really as basically as far back as you can remember where you started to have psychic abilities or these abilities come up? What was happening to you? And did you like was there an adjustment psychologically or was it just, oh, I see Uncle Fred at the end of the bed. Doesn't everybody see Uncle Fred at the end of the bed? Was it like that? Well, sort of all of the above, because I was born this way. And my theory on this is that I had a twin brother that died in utero at about 14 weeks gestation. And you know how twins are like connected, like, you know, like this. And and I just think that we had this psychic connection that twins have. And then he crossed the veil, he crossed over. And so I was literally born psychic. My connection with him continued, even though he wasn't here anymore. So my very, very, very first memories were of being like lying in my crib as a baby and seeing all these beautiful light beings around me, like waving and glowing and blowing me kisses. And my mom opens the door and walks into the room and they all disappear. It's my very, very first memory. And then when I was like four, I was my my brother was my imaginary friend, because that's what you had back in the day. It was an it was imaginary friend. And my mother's like, who are you talking to? And I'm like, my dead brother, William. And she was like holding this glass and she like like her mouth went open and she dropped the glass and it smashed on the floor and she like ran screaming out of the room. And later on in my life, she told me that, you know, she'd had a miscarriage through, you know, you didn't have that information. You didn't have the information that you had. Exactly. So that's probably why she lost her mind. Yeah. She's like, how do you know that? You know, and unfortunately for me, my parents were hippies and they were like into meditation and into, you know, they were Unitarians. They were like that was kind of an open environment, although they didn't have the answers. They didn't like drag me to the church and throw holy water at me like or drag me to the mental hospital like happens to quite a lot of people. But they didn't know that I was told I had a big, oh, your imagination, you know. So and I remember like I grew up just outside Boston in a super haunted house, old big old Victorian house. And I remember like being a kid in line and bed at night and seeing these people around me. I call them the great people. And they would talk to me and they were sad. And if I listened to them, they would feel better. Sometimes they would leave, you know. And then one day it hit me. I was like, oh, I think they're dead. Like, I think they're ghosts, you know. How old were you when that happened? Probably five or six. OK, like pretty little, you know. So it was kind of a was kind of a strange childhood of trying to figure out what was going on, not being able to get information, trying to pretend to be normal in public, not for people out, you know. And like I told people, I could see auras when I was in like third grade and then nobody talked to me for like five years, you know. So at what point did you realize that you were not that you were a little bit different than everybody else? At what age did you really find that? I just think I always knew that. Oh, so that was inherent that it was inherent. Yeah. You just like, yeah, you would. You never do it because I've spoken to channels. I've spoken to psychic mediums who who like it was like, what, you can't see Uncle Fred. Like, should they just think everybody has the same abilities because they don't. I knew that I knew that other people couldn't and I knew I had to be careful. About what I said and who I reveal this to. And there have been many times in my life where I where I would be like, do you see that person over there? Like, I can't tell. Like, you know, I can't tell. And I'm a visual psychic. There are times when I can't tell what I'm seeing is real, real, you know, like a solid living person or or a spirit. Oh, really? So is that is that vivid? Is that vivid to you? Yeah, it has been. Yeah. Not so much anymore because I don't really like that very much. And so I've sort of shut that. I still I see things in my internal with my internal eye, not my actual eyes, because I find that unsettling. You know, as as one would. Yeah, it's not that much fun. As I was saying, do you really want to know what the growling thing under your bed actually looks like when you're a little kid, you know? So you said that there was you had a bunch of experiences during your, you know, as you were growing up. What are some of these experiences that were key moments in your development? Sure. One of them was 1974. I was 10 and my parents took me to transcendental meditation because that's what you did when you were a hippie in 1974. And I met Maharishi Yogi, you know? No, I met him. Yeah, I did. And I totally cool. And he he was doing was at an ashram just outside Boston. And he was doing initiations for people and he would take people into a back room. He was speaking to a translator and he was he brought me in. He took everyone individually. I don't know how he did that. And he would he would do Shaktipat like he would do like the blessing and give you a mantra. And he was like, blah, blah, blah, through his translator. And then all of a sudden he was like, and he said, oh, my goodness, honey, I am so sorry for you. You have an amazing gift and your childhood is going to suck. You're you're kind of out of luck because if you'd been born in my country, we would know what to do with you because you were born in America and America is basically spiritually bankrupt. But you need to you need to like hang in there because you're going to help a lot of people when you get older. And I was like, because it was really the first time any adult had ever acknowledged my gift, you know? And I had no idea who he was until I went to college and I studied comparative religion. And the penny dropped. I was like, oh, my God, that was Maharishi Yogi that did that to me when I was 10 years old. Wow. You know, at 10 years old. So that's a pretty that's a pretty transformative experience. It doesn't happen to everybody, for sure. And then my parents took me to Silva, it used to be called Silva Mind Control. Now it's called the Silva Method when I was in high school. Yeah. So I had this incredible psychic training all through high school. It's a fantastic methodology, still really top notch. I had a really transcendent moment when I was about 12 and I snuck into the movie theater to see the movie Poltergeist because my parents wouldn't let me go. And there's this moment, you know, this character who's Zelda, the psychic, who's a professional psychic. And I was like, oh, my God, you can do that. You can be a professional psychic. And in that moment, I was like, that's what I'm going to do. And she had this little speech about like, oh, what happens when you die and what is like a paragraph, why some people get stuck and what do you do to cross them over? And I was like, oh, my God, somebody knows something. And I became from that point on a lifelong fan of paranormal and horror movies. And I watched a ton of them when I was a kid, like searching for information. Right, because I just was looking for, I know, and I think about half of what I learned was total like Hollywood craziness. Some of it was kind of accurate and some of it wasn't. So I just think that still happens today with all the paranormal TV that we have. And there's a lot of danger in getting your having that as your only source of knowledge. But for me, it was like a little water in the desert, you know. And then I was sort of saved by the new age, because when I went to college, I went to college in 1982. It was the dawn of the new age. And all of a sudden there were teachers, there were information there, you know, there was some real stuff happening. And that's when I started working as a psychic. Professionally, it was it was 1987 when I started working. And, you know, I was in my early 20s. So when you came out of the psychic closet, eventually, what was that like for friends, family? How did people deal with this? Because again, we're in 1987. I mean, you come out as a psychic now. It's still going to be a rough ride for a lot of people. It's a problem, to say the least, you know. And I always tell people, they're like, so do you think that, you know, people go into this these feels like being a channel or being a psychic medium? You know, kind of like lily nilly, like this is a tough road, you know, and there's easier hustles. I always say that there's easier hustles. If you're like at a carnival, that's one thing. When you're out publicly like this and you're on on the Internet and you've got, you know, content and things, there's no hiding. There's no hiding anymore. So it's that easy. There isn't. It isn't. And I've had different layers of that throughout my life. You know, I think when I was when I was 19 and I realized 20, I don't know, I started working just out of college. I really didn't know what I was in for. And I just think I did it because I swore I was going to do it when I was 12 and I was in Poltergeist, you know, the movie. And I just knew that was for me. That's what I wanted to do. I very quickly learned I didn't have enough skills as dealing with humans. Like even at 19, I was a pretty good psychic and I could deliver the message. But then there was this one moment where the person in front of me started to cry and I was like, I don't know what to do now because I'm 19, you know. So I went back to school and became a therapist and I blended therapy and counseling and psychic together for a long time. That was a very good, good thing to do. And then and then I had breaking to the mix about 25 years ago. But for me, it's just I don't know. I've been sort of lucky. Like, I don't get that many haters. I I just if I do, I just doesn't somehow bother me like that's I lived in a really small town. Every my kids raised my kids in a really small town. Everybody knew what I was up to. And sometimes I would get, you know, you're an agent of Satan or whatever. But obviously, I'm like the devil's work. I'm like, obviously, yeah, it's the devil's work. And I was like, I just I don't know. I never really bothered me somehow. And I I just knew that whoever I could help was more important than taking the flak for the hate. Well, and again, with that whole devil's this is the devil's work or your disaster, things like that. I just I just heard that this morning that the pope came out saying hell's really not real. He publicly stated that hell is not real. It's more of a it's more of like a state of mind, like completely there's no physical place of like and people are losing their collective crap because the pope now is sick. So you could see the cracks are happening in a lot of these old programming and these old ideas. But I just thought that was so if you say that to me, if anyone says this is the devil's work, like, well, technically, you know, the pope said, I love that. I love that about him. That's amazing. I think that's a super important thing to say. And, you know, it's not that I haven't seen, you know, shadowy spirits or evil. Of course, we you know, we just watch the news. We always just watch the news, understand that evil is real. Like that's not a, you know, thing anyone's going to argue about. But I think it's mostly what we're doing to each other as humans. You know, that's the problem. So you you mentioned Ricky. So I understand what Ricky is to my and I understand what psychic is. But you do something called psychic Reiki. Is that correct? Yes. What is psychic Reiki? Psychic Reiki is Reiki that is infused with psychic development, with psychic training, because I was teaching these classes side by side. I've been teaching Reiki for 25 years, a lot of Reiki. And I was teaching psychic classes over here and Reiki classes over here. And I would and the people would go from one to the other or just pull it back and forth. Because what I found was when we do things like yoga, meditation and Reiki, I call those the three gateway, the three gateways into spirituality that we a lot of us have. It sort of wakes up our inherent psychic abilities, the gifts that we all have and everyone has them. Never met a person on the planet that didn't that wasn't psychic, intuitive. It's such a it's just a natural part of being a human. And when we do these spiritual things, it's wakes it up more. And and it's really important because a big part is sort of the traditional Reiki and Reiki is an hands on energy healing technique from Japan. Right. When I did it and started in 1999, it was so pretty fringy. But now, 25 years later, it's in like 800 hospitals in the United States. You know, when I live near Boston, it's in all of the big major hospitals. Some of the best hospitals in the world are in Boston and they all have full time Reiki units. They're working on the people, you know, if you if you have cancer and you're at Dana Farber, best cancer hospital in the world, there's full time Reiki staff. They're giving you Reiki treatments when you're receiving your chemotherapy, if you want it, you know. So Reiki has become very mainstream in certain parts of the world. Especially where I live here in New England. And and so there's many, many eight million people in the United States alone have studied Reiki. So it's it's quite a lot. It's quite a big, you know, population that's pretty common for people. It's like yoga, meditation. It's like it's like in there, you know. And so it's like Reiki is is really just acknowledging that these things go together, seeing it as an opportunity and a good thing. Or if you're doing Reiki, you're working as a healer and being able to use your intuition and your psychic abilities in your healing sessions is an asset. It's always for a purpose, purposeful, you know, it adds to the the healer toolkit that we have. And I had a student many years ago. I was like, oh, I started doing Reiki and I stopped doing it because all of a sudden my psychic popped open and they were like people walking through my room in the middle of the night. And I was having all these experiences that freaked me out. And I went to my Reiki teacher to figure out what to do. And she and the Reiki teacher told her to just cut it out, just stop. That was weird and scary. And she should stop it right now. And so she she did. And I think, you know, really suppressing your psychic gifts when they're emerging, that that's also problematic for people. It doesn't always go well. So people need help. It's psychic abilities, a lot like athletic ability or musical ability. Everybody has some. And we want to develop it. We have to take lessons. We have to practice. We have to study. We have to know. And then we that it, you know, really blossoms into what its potential is. So that's a bit of a long answer. The short answer is psychic Reiki is my kind of unique blend of Reiki training plus development. Beautiful, beautiful. Now, I wanted to ask you, since you are a psychic, I wanted to get your point of view on a few big topics that we're going through right now. This year is going to be I found out that 50 countries around the world are going to have elections and 30 percent, 50 percent of the countries in the world are going to have elections. So there seems so there seems to be a big shift happening. Positive, negative. That's irrelevant. What do you see from a psychic point of view of what this this year, election year, and obviously there's a big election coming here in the United States where everyone always is looking at the U.S. because with our elections, as insane as they are lately, where do you see this? How is this affecting humanity? How is this affecting the U.S. with our elections, but around the world as well? I think that we're in a time of like deconstruction and breakdown, you know, like we've just built a lot of systems that don't work anymore. Pretty much every system we have is broken. Financial systems, government systems, you know, health care, mental health, like education, like nothing's working anymore. It's all broken. And I feel like they're just natural cycles of evolution. Things build, things exist, and things change and fall apart. So I feel like we're standing on this very critical, you know, deconstruction point. It's like the fall of the Roman Empire. It's, you know, the it's the fall of of an empire that has we've out evolved. And I just and the natural energy of deconstruction is chaos. So we're going to fall into an even more chaotic phase. That's what I believe. As we deconstruct, continue to burn the house down, you know, and and I think that many of us are on the planet as part of the reconstruction team, you know, to build. When we reconstruct, we're going to build things at a higher level of beauty, harmony and order than we have. It's an evolutionary process. It's natural. As humans, we don't like it at all. We fear and and and hate this and we're super uncomfortable with chaos and destruction. Like, you know, so when I look at it, I see just total chaos. It's actually very hard to read as a psychic. I don't think those those outcomes are set in stone to me. It's always sort of like a football game. Do you like football? You know, it's like, you know, you know, you don't know what's going to happen until, you know, the game's not over until it's over and things can change. And that those seconds, that's right. And those those realities sort of unfolding in the moment as a result of our collective decisions, you know, and sort of fate in the hand of God and, you know, all this sort of other things, influences that play that are playing out. And I don't know what's going to happen. I just know it's going to be chaotic. Sometimes I look at the American election and I think this is a weird thing to say, but it's not going to happen. You know, you're not the you're not the first person who said that. I've heard that from multiple channels. I've heard that multiple psychics and I'm looking at it myself just from my own point of view and going, is this even going to happen? We got one candidate, one candidate that's been who's as of this recording has been convicted of a felony. We still haven't gotten a sentencing situation yet. So is is he if he goes to jail, the whole world, the whole country is going to be what's going to happen if he doesn't go to jail, the whole country is going to go crazy. Then you get on the other side, someone who's they're both old, old guys. But you can I mean, do you agree that both of these candidates are a representation of the old system? Yeah, they're just a representation of both sides of this old, old, not working the old way, not really working the old paradigm. Right. And because there's no new blood, there's no there's no JFK. There's you know, there's there's no Roosevelt. There's no there is sort of. But he's not allowed to be on the ticket, you know. Right. Exactly. But you know what I mean? With the system, the way it is right now, there isn't really any young blood out there. So it's now I'm looking at this when I said the syndicate, is this even going to happen? And if it doesn't happen, it's going to happen. And if it's so the election doesn't happen, that's a complete breakdown of government for the first time in the first time in the history of this country. Right. Right. And it'll be the first time in the history. We already had a huge breakdown in January 6th of 2020. That was a massive breakdown of government. Yeah. And how bad for more of that. We're headed for more of that. So I wonder someone's going to jail, someone's dropping dead. You know, the election's not going to happen. Or if it does happen, it will be quickly reversed. Like hold as you know, not that wasn't real. That was a fake election or whatever. It's going to be like it's not going to it's not going to stick. Right. Whatever. If it does happen, that's my sense. And then, yeah, then we've got a problem. And I don't know what happened after that, that then we have to choose. We have to choose, like, are we going to stay together? Are you know, are are some states going to sort of succeed? Texas is always wanting to do that, you know, like, well, become become its own thing. You know, like, are we going to break apart or like are we going to stick together and then sort of have to renegotiate, recreate a system that's functional? I don't know what that would look like. I just have no idea. But that also throw the world out of whack as well, because if the U.S. is the world's already there. I know. But but if even more so than we are now, it's like if the U.S. starts to fight amongst itself, then we've got the world. We got big problems. We got we got big problems. You know what? It's funny. I had a it's going to get shaky. It's going to get shaky. I had I had a channel once came on the show who was able to channel to the year 2300. And the government system of what the U.S. looked like was fat. I mean, she's either channeling or a hell of a writer. But the system we were broken up. There were three distinct changes in in the in the country with the three sections of the country all worked well together, but separate from ideology and not anything that we're talking about now, completely different kinds of ideology that we haven't even come into grips with yet. Not like not not not not liberal or conservative. Those are out the door. These are other ideas that were running it. So so you're thinking that there's going to be chaos. There could be a breakdown of the American empire, essentially, because it's hard for people that you and I were both born in a strong America, essentially. Well, the 70s wasn't strong, but you know what I mean? We're still strong. Yeah. And I think it's I think it's the assumption of people that things will always be the way like Rome was around for a thousand years. And we were babies. We've been around with three hundred, two hundred and something, two hundred something years. Yeah. Two hundred fifty. That's nothing. Nothing in history. But yeah, we but I think it was a politician a long time ago said in a documentary is like nowhere is it written that the US that the American empire will live on forever. And when I first heard that statement, I was like, is that is that possible? Of course it is. Of course, of course. I mean, it's so hard for us as Americans, because I think, you know, you know, we are there's so much we have in common that like we're big constitutionalists. You know, we leave the Constitution. We believe in that. You know, we're really proud no matter what side of the fence you're on. We're really proud of our country and being Americans and what we stand for, the principles that we stand for. And I am, too. You know, like like we're all patriotic in our own way. But I think as Americans and and so it would be hard to sort of change our identity. I don't know what's going to happen. I feel like we have to. We have to sort of like the football game, you know, there could be a pick six on the goal line. And what do we do then? You know, like, you know, where we just have to sort of live in our hearts and vote. Yeah. Play it out. Play it out. Vote from our consciousness. Vote from our from our conscience to stay principled, to stay integrity, to stay like to not turn against each other. That would be like my hope, you know, to support each other. I live in New England and we're kind of cranky up here. You know, we have that reputation, but we have each other's backs. You know what I mean? Like it's like it's it's I'm East Coast, too. I was I was raised in New York and also in Florida. So I get the East Coast vibe. It's very and I also lived in the in the West Coast for a long time. So I get both those sides, New England, New York. That whole area. When when the fit hits the shan, we are going to stick together. We're going to help each other. Yeah, exactly. And I think I think somebody else on the show said that I think we're going to revert back to more community based organizations, meaning like we're helping your neighbor out, you know, in a very deep, deep way. Financially, even things like that to help the community grow more, which is what it was before, before we back. Right. Yeah. Like the local like we have local interests in our local interests, you know, are very unique, very different. Right. And maybe that's the three sort of the three sections that make sense to me based on some of the things that I've seen. I also feel like climate change is going to play a stronger role than people make me think. And that maybe even the geography of our country changes. But it doesn't, you know, inches in Florida's gone. I mean, it's in Manhattan, by the way. I know. I mean, I live like. You know, a quarter mile from the ocean here in Rhode Island. And, you know, we're we're seeing it here, too. So I feel like that's going to play a part that I can't foresee. I mean, in a broad sense, I can feel that change impacting us, you know, the whole entire world and, you know, where that's going. And again, whether there's a belief in global warming or not global warming, that's irrelevant. The bottom line is the weather is getting crazy. I remember I don't know about you. If when I was growing up, if it ever got anywhere in the country above one hundred and one hundred and two, you people were like, what is happening? It was good. I never saw temperatures of one oh seven one ten one fifteen on on an on an average non-desert scenario, non-death valley scenario. You never heard of those. Right. Never. So there is something happening, regardless of why it's caused. There is something happening, you know, and it is climate change. We just climate change is sort of undeniable. And more storms, more rain, more extreme weather, hurricanes, hurricanes, floods. I don't know. Like, I feel like that's going to play play into our situation quite strongly. So I don't know. Like, I my goal in life is to, you know, continue to ask myself how I can be of service, how I continue to serve. You know, I just was like, I don't know, put me put me where I need to be with it. It's going to if it's going to be the start of the zombie apocalypse, they either take me out in the first round or only where I can help, you know. I am definitely not going. I'm not I'm not going to get to season ten of Walking Dead. I'm out. I don't want to live in that world. I just don't. I'm out. I don't know. I can't. I can't. Other than if it's defending my family, then I'll probably hang out for a while. But still, it's just like at a certain point, you're like, really, do we want to? Have you not seen that show? I don't want to live like that. No, absolutely not. They should have all died of stress. They should have all died of stress at this point. Talking to God about it and like, take me out in the first round or set me up so I can be of service. That's that's exactly right. Exactly. So so with all of the stuff that we're talking about in regards to elections and the stability of our government and everything, what is that going to do for our economy and and just our our money, our currency? Because that's always been a talk of like, what's going to happen with our money? What's going to happen with our economy? So those are two questions, economy and money. And I'd love to hear what you what you foresee. I think as far as our economy goes, there's always opportunity and change. And if you're flexible, if you're like I know people, how many people, you know, made so much money during the pandemic? You know, or the or the or the crash or the crash? Yeah. And, you know, I think if we're clever and we're thinking on our feet and we're adaptable and we're seeing the need, there's always opportunity. There's always going to be economy. There's always going to be people, people who need stuff or people who need services or people who need help. My phone rings off the hook when when, you know, things get crazy out in the world. So I don't I don't mean we may have to let go. We may have to change. We're going to have to change. We're going to have to let go of some things. But if you're smart and you're entrepreneurial, you're going to see some opportunities always. And as far as the currency goes, I have no idea. I mean, I've done everything from crypto to collecting silver, you know, quarters, you know, in a bucket of cash to diversify. I'm like I'm like covering all my bases. I don't I have no idea what's going to happen. And I sort of trust. I have a lot of faith, I guess, in knowing what to do, when the time to do it is. And I'm just going to go with that. Right. You know. So with that, with everything we're talking about over here in the States, what do you see for these conflicts around the world that they seem to be, you know, getting more intense, more crazy? Are there any new things that might be popping up that is going to happen? I mean, the world's getting a little nutty, even nuttier than we think. It's getting than we think. It's hard for me to pin that down. And honestly, I don't spend too much time thinking about it. I feel like, you know, violence will continue to escalate. I don't I don't have like a doomsday scenario like World War Three or, you know, like I don't have that feeling like we're going to go into a massive conflict. I feel like it's going to whatever happens to seem to be weirder than what anyone thinks about. My bet is like aliens laying on the White House lawn and that changes everything, you know what I mean? Like that. Well, yeah, we need that Independence Day moment where we all like we're all human. Let's all get going. And I don't I personally haven't heard that. I don't think that's I don't think we're ready for that yet. But I'm still hoping for it. I know. But if you remember, if you remember the days after 9-11, that, you know, was a very contentious, a very contentious election, a hugely contentious election. And we were pretty we were when you look back now, it looks like we were kumbaya compared only to the division we have here now. But when 9-11 happened, you know, George Bush was our president. And we we everyone rallied around him, around the government, because we're like, we're under attack. And it brought I'm getting chills. We brought everyone together because of this one event. That one thing. And is that there might be something like that might be something like that will happen in a in a global way, not just to the states. But I think someone's going to do something that the rest of the world is going to go, uh-uh, uh-uh, right. We're done. No, we're not going down this road. That's right. I feel the same thing. And I I'm sort of kidding when I say aliens land on the White House lawn. My my scenario is more like the Star Trek. Like, you know, you're going to be you're going to be like indoctrinated into the Federation instead of the, you know, Independence Day, where, you know, we just get by the end. But I'm an optimist, you know, so I don't know. But but I do think that I do feel like it's, you know, maybe that's climate change or maybe that's like horrific weather or things, you know, that happen that are kind of impersonal. And I do feel like as humans, we when we're we're our backs up against the wall, our nature is to help each other, you know, like that in that 9-11 moment, you know, and and I can feel that, you know, I'm like I'm from Boston and we've had a tough, you know, two of those planes were from Boston, right? And of course, Austin Strong was a thing, you know. And then we had the marathon bombings. And there's still there's still like a huge sentiment here. It's sort of solidified our collectiveness as as New Englanders. And that's kind of what I was talking about. But I do feel like they're back. I don't know. I think something's going to happen. That's going to unite us. I don't see like another massive world war. I don't see like big nukes going off. I don't you know, I don't see that happening. That's something. Yeah, something. Someone someone someone or something is going to cross the line to a point where we're like, now you've gone beyond where we're at. We're all right. Right now we're. But like what happened with with Hitler and the Nazis, I mean, you know, everyone was like, no, everyone. Everyone was like a big no to that. Nope, out of that situation. So and that was a war. That was a world war. But I think there was something that will happen that will kind of harmonize us as humans again without that level of destruction. And it's going to be a choice as as as a collective, we're all going to choose one path or the other to take. Yeah. Now, where do you see it? Because there's a lot of talk about the spiritual shift that's happening, the the shift in consciousness, the ascension, the awakening of so many people. There's no doubt. No one can deny that there is more. There's more consciousness now than there was five years ago, 10 years ago, definitely 20 or 30 years ago, as we were talking about this concept of psychic abilities and channels and and Reiki and these kind of things. There is a more consciousness opening. How is that affecting? Because it seems like on one end we're becoming we're getting closer to source again as we raise our consciousness. But there's this other segment of the world that's of the population that's just like, nope. And they're trying to the crab in the bucket, trying to bring everyone down. So where do you see that balance going? I feel like we're going back to the football game scenario there. And, you know, all we can do is manage our own state of consciousness. My belief is that the external world is a reflection of our inner state of consciousness. And I can't control what's happening in the world, but I can control my own state of consciousness. They say, like, like inner peace starts inside yourself, you know. And when we have peace and love and harmony and those qualities, integrity, honor, those qualities we care about internally, then that's elevated. That's where, like, more people are. She's sort of like that. I was a Star Wars fan when I was growing up. So Star Wars was kind of my other like, you know, like, of course, formative kind of spiritual experience as a kid. And it's like we have that choice every minute to choose the lighter, choose the dark, you know. And we our job is to choose the light, choose the light, choose the light, choose the light. And the more people that do that, the more and they talk about like philosophers and metaphysicians talk about sort of a critical level of consciousness. Like when the critical mass, you know, certain number hits, we all that consciousness will spread across the planet. And and the more of us that wake up, the more opportunity we create. We start podcasts, we write books, we, you know, do we go to seminars, we do all these things that help illuminate other people. And that's what we can do to to think, you know, to choose the light. It's like we're going to run into that. We're going to all run to that side of the boat and hopefully shift this, you know, steer the boat in a different direction. And and I do believe that as we do that, sort of the forces of darkness, the forces of interference like that don't want that to happen. Our our rising of the old paradigm is trying hard to hold on to its power. The patriarchy, you know, the the old white men in suits are they're trying really hard to hold on to their power. Nobody wants to let go of power. Right. And they're they're trying. They're they're they're grasping so hard. But I feel like it's really the last gasp. They're old. Eventually they won't be on the board anymore. And, you know, things will be, you know, and I think about my children, my adult children being the ones to make the next decision, you know, to be making the next decisions. They're going to choose from a different set of values, different, you know, sort of a more updated, you know, a little higher vibe, you know, equity, equality, diversity, less materialism. And we just have to sort of hope we don't all kill ourselves. We don't like, you know, nuke the whole thing before we make that shift. And and yes, I see it all the time that those forces of darkness. But again, I'm like I'm a person that has a lot of faith, a lot of hope, a lot of optimism. So I'm like, you know, if we go if we go to the football analogy, I'm a Patriots fan. Like we're going to pull it out in the last 30 seconds of overtime one more time and and we're going to win. So that's how I see it. And I actually feel I feel quite a lot of hopeful. I feel quite a lot of hope when I talk to younger people and I see where they're where their heads are and how they feel about things. I just can't wait for them to be in charge. And where do you see technology? Because technology is becoming such a even more the A.I. specifically. Yeah, it's it's overnight. It's come come up. There's a there's a responsibility. I don't think there's a Terminator scenario or a Matrix scenario, but there's hopefully not. What do you see? What do you see? A.I. and technology going? I mean, I just on a personal note, I'm a huge fan. I use it all the time and love it. And, you know, see the potential and like if I had a lot of money to invest, I would definitely be investing in some A.I. You know, right now, that's where I would put my money. And and we have like you said, we have a responsibility. This is where I worry about it. And it's a tool. Can we guide it? Can we make guidelines? Can we teach it? Can we feed it? You know, we give it the prime directive. And there are always there are always people who want to work it and use it for various purposes, you know, like any tool. We can weaponize it or we can use it to save humanity. What are we going to do? There's going to be people who want to go either way, both ways with it. What do you what do you see being the biggest challenge? The humanity has over the next decade that we have to overcome. I want to say climate change and famine, displacement, food scarcity and displacement due to climate change. And there's going to be climate change. Yeah. And there's going to be climate change. Refugees already are. You know, and what how are we going to feed people if more and more of the world is desertifying? You know, and I think there's a lot we can do. You know, we we can do like regenerative farming. We we actually have the technology and know how to feed every single human on the planet and really beautiful way. We just don't do it. I don't know why. But the old system is in place. The old system is in place. And I I feel like this is an opportunity for us to maybe make some better choices to choose with more empathy, with more compassion. We have we can take care of every single human on the planet and a whole lot more if we if we choose to do that. I find it so fascinating because, you know, when you're I was I was in Europe a while ago and the food there is so different. And it's on a massive scale. Europe is not a small place. And there are rules in place to protect its citizens. We're in the States. There isn't that. I mean, there's garbage in our food. There's poisons in our food. You feel the difference. And it's all this vicious kind of, you know, you're eating horribly. Then you get sick. And then the health care system is is broken. And it's like no one has it all figured out. But there are definitely things that we could be doing. It's because that old system is in place. And they just want to keep making money, keep making money. It's greed and profit and business over and lack of empathy over the real needs of humanity, you know, and we could. We don't have to do that. We can they you know, we can grow food hydroponically. We can grow it in huge towers, you know, like stacked up. We can do regenerative farming techniques. We can we can we should can and should all be organically farming or gardening and is one of my hobbies when I get tired of psychic work. That's what I do. And, you know, I'm of a special passion for urban gardening and helping people establish gardens and, you know, places to grow their own food. And that's that's something we can all do. And I feel like we may be forced to do that because when we go back to system break, when we go to system breakdown, that's what we're going to do. Makes me think of my grandparents who had a victory garden. You know, they turned their front line during the war, during World War Two. And there were food shortages. And if you had land, if you had a front yard, the government asked you to put it. They called it a victory garden. And it was to grow food for your family, for your neighborhood, in your own neighborhood, in your own on your own piece of land. And there's no reason why we can't. You know, I feel like we're going to we're headed back to those that time and which will probably be, like you said, better for our health, better for you know, we don't have to be poisoned by our food. And there's a huge cost to that for Americans. And I used to live in Europe. I lived in Germany for quite a long time. And they had the strictest purity laws in the world. And I got used to that. And then I came back here. The only way I could figure out how to deal with it was to grow my own food. Wow. Yeah. So, Lisa, I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests. What is your definition of living a fulfilled life? I think that's such a beautiful question. And thank you for asking. I love that. I really feel like it's for me, it's about mindfulness and being like training myself to live as fully in the moment as I can, because moment by like the moments of my life are so beautiful. And even the ones that are hard have like a sweetness to them, like a richness to them, you know. So when I'm with my kids and when I'm, you know, just the beauty of the natural world, the beauty of this moment that we're having right now, you know, is to to drop fully into the beauty of each moment. That's my that's my definition. Yeah. And also to be of service, to be helpful, to be of service. You know, that brings, I think, a deep level of happiness and contentment to me. Yeah. Now, if you had a chance to go back in time and talk to little Lisa, what advice would you give her? Hmm. I would, you know, I would say what Maharishi told me, you know, like back in the day to really hang in and hang in there. I always tell my younger self to aim a little higher, to believe, you know, to raise the bar a little more, to aim a little higher, to believe in myself and just really say it's all going to be OK. You know, like it's all like my life is amazing and beautiful. And, you know. So, you know, keep keep going and it's going to get better. And I think about that a lot, like I I wrote the books I wish I could have found in the library when I was searching and I became the teacher that I wish I had, you know, created the classes that I wanted to find that I couldn't find. I mean, I think there are ways where we can transform our pain into our purpose and our trauma into our mission. And that's, you know, we have to find deep fulfillment and meaning and being able to do that. Now, how do you define God or source? You know, I have deep experience defining that is hard. I have deep, very personal experiences. I think that our tiny, wee little human minds are really difficult time grasping the concept of that. But I think we can feel it, you know, and I think we feel it as faith, as love, as joy, as sort of the interconnectedness of all the humanity and on the planet that we live in. I think it's a feeling for that. We the closest we can get to it is that feeling. And that feeling would be like love, trust, faith, joy, those kinds of higher feelings. And, you know, there's all kinds of our minds have created all kinds of metaphysics and philosophies, whether it's mathematics or quantum physics, poetry. We're trying to define it, but I don't think actually we can. I just think we can experience it. What is love? I think love is, you know, has really like two. There's the sort of the love we put on ourselves of deeply accepting, forgiving, seeing, honoring who we are at the deepest levels. And when we do that, we can then share that with other people. Empathy, compassion. You know, I think empathy and compassion are huge parts of love. Putting putting ourselves in other people's shoes. Right. I do a lot of work with training empaths, and I wrote a whole book about that. But I feel like if the empaths, let's hope, let's pray right now that the empaths are in charge of the new paradigm. There's more of them on. There's more of them on the committees that are going to run the new paradigm because we really would not have the problems we have in the world right now if empaths ruled. And what is the ultimate purpose of life? I think there are two things there, and one of them is self-discovery to really, you know, they say like that what was written on the doors of the mystery schools, know thyself, you know, and that that that life is just a huge experiment. It's all research that everything that's happening around us to be self-reflective so that we can really deeply know ourselves. And as we do that, we again turn the energy around and to be of service into the world. So I feel like there's two aspects of it, to know yourself and then to be of service. And where can people find out more about you and the amazing work you're doing? You can come to my website, Lisa Campion dot com. And I'd love to hear from you. I work mostly with emerging psychics, healers and empaths to help them train and understand their gifts, because I think the world needs all the healers it can get now more than ever. And and I have all kinds of I've written a bunch of books about that. I find them wherever you buy books and of all kinds of online trainings for people that, you know, want to develop their psychic skills or understand their nature as an empath. Or become a healer. And do you have any parting messages for the audience? Oh, I just say, like, thank you so much. I want to say, actually, thank you to you, Alex. Thank you for having me on your show. And thank you for creating this beautiful podcast. It's really an incredible body of work that you have and all the people that you've talked to. And I want to send my appreciation to you for the light you are bringing to the world that we can all share. But I am listening to your podcast and sharing it and spreading it around. So let's keep spreading the light, because that's what we need to do right now. Lisa, it's been such a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you so much for being on the show and for the work that you're doing to awaken the planet. So I appreciate you, my dear. Thank you. Thank you. Right back at you.