The Wandering Mind | Wind River High Route | #30

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But I think that what I love most about backpacking
is your sole responsibility for the day is to wake up and to just walk to put one foot
in front of the other
and I think that
By stripping life back to being so simple. I feel like it gives me space to
kind of
mull over
Chew on so to speak the great many of things that I just sometimes feel like I don't have time
to really marinate on
About a month ago owen and I set out on a week-long backpacking trip through the remote corners of the wind river range in wyoming
We were out there documenting a trip for a film called sideways that is actually out now on youtube
But while we were out there hiking I decided to record a different side of the experience one
That seems to never have time to be shared in our video work
But I wanted to explore the organic thoughts that come up
From hours on end of walking and just letting my brain
Go for a stroll entirely on its own
Here's where those mental wanderings took me
Welcome to camp nowhere
I I like that about backpacking because it kind of lets you
Meditate in motion so to speak
and go to these
You know
Corners of your mind that you don't often visit
But uh, I like having those types of things built
into my life
because i'm definitely the type of person who
I feel like I need time to
mull things over
before I can
You know make decisions or feel solid about something
We are currently hiking along
The headwaters of the green river
Which is the river that goes on to carve the green canyon
Sorry, we're climbing
but it's so wild because
this water
that I am
Hiking along is in the middle of nowhere in wyoming
And to think that it goes
from here
to carve the green canyon
And then historically made it all the way to the gulf of california
and that
Is very wild
My next sip of water will be that water
I think that's kind of cool
Feel the need to describe this place where we find the headwaters
the green river
We are hiking
In the back country of the wind river range in wyoming
And we are in this deep
bowl
um with sheer
incredibly craggy rocks
kind of
Erupting so to speak out of this valley
on all sides
We're about 18 miles in from the trailhead that we started at
This is really cool. We've been back here
into the river wind river range before
We've even done a little pack rafting on the green river
here in this area, but
I've never been to the headwaters
for such a
massive
And important body of water
For the western united states that has quite humble beginnings
humble beginnings in a
Staggeringly beautiful place. Wow. Oh and also the water is like really milky
like glacier milk blue
Glacier milk
That's a technical term
I don't think it was ever a goal of mine to see the headwaters of the green river
But as we were hiking past it in its truly smallest form as just glacial runoff high up in our favorite mountains
It struck me how cool it was to be there seeing the headwaters of such a mighty river
To see where it is still small and silty knowing what it goes on to do and create
in fact as we headed south this fall we
Entirely unintentionally followed the green river south until where it meets up with the colorado river in utah
Right before it goes on
To create the grand canyon. Once again, it was not a goal
But still cool and a fun call back to our time on trail
So last night
Night of day one
We
Saw smoke coming in
And we had clear conditions coming out
And the smoke was coming from where we came from
Which was really confusing
So with our garmin in reach we sent out a message to a friend of ours
Hi stewart if you hear this
and stewart kindly
looked into the fire conditions in the area and it sounds like
A big and fast moving fire broke out right at the trailhead where we came from
Very shortly after we left
And the crazy thing is
You can't go back that way now
And we were considering keeping our car down there
at the beginning
And then getting shuttled to the end
We're having somebody move our car
And thank god we didn't
Because the road is now closed
And that's where the fire is
Oh my heart goes out to people who have
Their car there
But the other crazy thought
Is that if we would have just started like a few hours later
I don't think this trail would be happening
Oh, man
Yeah, lots of lots of close calls in this scenario
We almost had our car there
We
Oh, man, yeah
We almost started two weeks later
And it just seems like with how big and fast it is just
Less than 24 hours in
I don't know that many people are going to be hiking in through that area
Oh crazy
Feeling very thankful things shook out the way they did though
That fire that i'm talking about was called the dollar fire and it was actually started by a storm
That we drove through getting to the trailhead
Thanks to our friend stewart's intel we were able to pass along all of the information that he sent us to those who are still
hiking
Towards the trailhead that we saw on trail the next day
as of this time recording this episode at the beginning of october the fire is only about
85% contained and has burned over
20 000 acres
It has been going
For well over a month
That is so insane to me
This is actually the second time that we've run into a fire on trail and it made us realize
How incredibly important it is to have a safety plan in place
When you are spending time in the back country
I think it's important to
Have people who are not only keeping an eye on you when you are in the back country and can know where you are
But also having somebody know where your car is and to be able to keep an eye on it
So I do want to say thank you so much to our friend stewart pally for keeping an eye on us
in terms of the fire
but I also want to thank my dad because after the fire broke out and having
This close call and this realization that our truck very well could have been at the trailhead
We reached out to my dad and we were like, okay
So fire's broken out. We're fine. Everything's fine
But this is where our car is can you please keep an eye on it like twice a day
Can you just check to make sure no fires have broken out?
because I think that a new part of our plan needs to also be
ensuring that
People know where our car is and can keep an eye on it. And if something were ever
unfortunately
You know a fire was to break out that somebody could potentially go in and get it
and later
Further down the trail I kind of came to this realization
we
had asked multiple other couples friend groups to come with us and do this hike and
You know ultimately no one was able to do this hike with us
But the realization was
If somebody else had come with us
We would not have hired a shuttle service, which means that somebody would have had a car at that trailhead
so
Based on how things ended up shaking out. I think it was for the best that we did this trail alone
Because I shudder to think of the alternative
At the start of this journey. I spent a lot of time thinking directly about why it is I crave backpacking
I just wanted to understand it
and to be honest this trip came up because we were
Craving a long hard backpacking trip
But like why did I feel that way?
Why did I feel I needed it? It's just so rare that in adult life
We just have like so many responsibilities so many things that we have to take care of so many things that we have to do
so many things that we need to be thinking about
Backpacking really sets the stage for me in a way that few activities do to churn through this seemingly
Endless backlog of things that I think that I really need to spend time thinking on
But while I was out there, I think I came to understand that
Maybe the thinking i'm putting it in quotes that I needed to do was actually less direct or
Specifically thinking. Oh my gosh, that makes no sense
I'll just let myself explain and particularly with this trail being so much off trail
We I mean we are not on trails
no, two steps
are guaranteed and any
Misstep could be a broken
Leg ankle rolled ankle sprained something and we are out here
But I really just love that
Continuous problem solving and it just demands so much of your focus to
Pay super close attention to everything that you're doing
And there's sometimes just like no time or space to think about anything else other than where you are placing your feet
And I feel like that does like a hard reset on my brain that I really really like
obviously, I can only speak for myself when I say this, but
Activities where your body and brain isn't focused
Entirely on the task at hand
It gives my subconscious space and time to work entirely on its own on things that I feel like i've mentally stockpiled
I think that this is actually
Probably the root of why I crave backpacking
It's this constructive time where I don't actually have to think about anything
Other than just putting one foot
safely in front of the other
that time of kind of
Distracted thinking on a simple task allows for the problems
Slash questions that I have to untangle themselves very organically in the background
Without a doubt when I am exercising that is when I have my best ideas
I feel like I always have these thoughts that just come
Bubbling up from the dark corners of my being seemingly out of nowhere
But I think that i'm starting to realize that it isn't actually coming from nowhere. It's coming up because i've set the scene to allow
These things to sort themselves on their own in my subconscious
And you know, I don't think that we as adults get enough time
In our day-to-day lives for this type of focused
non-thinking
And I think that it's just another reason why
this feeling of craving
Comes up to spend long arduous hours
Strapsing through the wilderness
But this also got me thinking about the other end of the spectrum
And it's so funny because there's been so many occasions where i'm just like why the hell do I like doing this
um
It's just like a lot of pain
uh almost continuously
But I think that
There's something somewhat
Gratifying about it
Because you just have to keep going. So okay, like I said, this is a bad thing and now i'm already saying it's a good thing
but
You come to realize that you can
keep going past
the discomfort
And oftentimes if you don't give a power if you don't talk about it
and you
Just keep going pushing forward
That stuff will often recede for me anyways
into the background
And i'm not talking about like severe pain. I'm just talking about
general aches and pains from
Exerting yourself for 11 hours a day
but uh
I think that while you're in pain
That is when I particularly am like why the hell do I like this?
or when
I'm laying in tent in the tent at night
And I can't fall asleep because literally everything in my body hurts
Every corner
is aching
There's no way to lay comfortably because everything hurts
So yeah, that's definitely a downside
and then I also just really
despite the fact that
I don't know. I live the way that I do. I really don't like going to bed dirty
like feeling
Sticky and nasty. Oh
It's the worst
So yeah, those are definitely some downsides
But at least one of them comes with a positive
I'm clearly delusional
In the end I think that pain
Can wear on you over time if it's not the right type of pain, which i'm fully aware
Sounds very sadistic
But the right type of pain can be a very meditative experience
And I think that there's a lot to be learned
from that variety
But there's also the wrong type of pain and I think that that's the kind where you know
That something is not performing the way that it should it just feels like something is maybe off
or not working properly due to
exhaustion
On this hike in particular. I was dealing with a very confusing mixture of both the good kind of pain and the bad kind
uh as far as the bad kind of pain is concerned, I was having shooting pains in my ankles and my
One ankle, excuse me one ankle and then it was radiating up to my hip
And all of these are places I have never heard before so this is a note to myself to look into shoe inserts
I'm, hoping that's going to help but to summarize
I think that there is so much more that I get out of backpacking that I really love versus what I don't
Which is why this was kind of a short list
So on this high route that we're hiking we didn't see a single person yesterday
That seems pretty rare and kind of cool. We did
two mountain passes crossed a glacier
Went past like four or five
Alpine lakes all of which were stunning one of them looked like what I think baffin island will look like when I
Do eventually get there?
Mark my words
So yeah, just like really unique and rare experience to go a whole day
of hiking in a very popular area
And not see a single soul
The wind river range has a large network of established trails a lot of which are very very popular
And as we started researching the traverse routes, we realized that the high route goes through many sections
That the established trails just do not come anywhere close to
That was our initial attraction to the trail and it was so special to get time in a mind blowing
Landscape and to be the only people in sight
That is such a rare luxury and I will always cherish those occasions when I get them
there is
great satisfaction
In developing a fluency with your gear
As in you're fast
You're efficient
You know what you're doing
full stop
end of thought
Another thought that i've had
on
this hike
Because so much of it is off trail
Is that like it just like never occurred to me
That some of the trails that we hike that feel like they're truly in the middle of nowhere
But our designated trails
have received a great deal of like
physical human power labor
To bring them to life
And by stark contrast what we have been doing lately or these last couple of days, I mean
no
Semblance of like where you should be going
And the great deal of yesterday, which was about 10 miles
Were just boulder fields that we were crawling through
And so I just now have this
immense
Appreciation for the people that I will never know that have made these trails walkable that we enjoy so much
um, but also just such an appreciation for
How easy
a trail makes it to access place different places that are hard to get to because
You pay for it
In grueling agony to get to places that do not have trails. So my hat's off to all the people who are probably the ccc
Uh for putting these trails together that we love so much. Um
But also I think that it's nice to see the contrast. I think that that appreciation is important
So I did some research on the trails and the winds and they were not made by the ccc
However, I do feel like the history and the information about the ccc is pretty cool and is not widely known
So we'll circle back to that
but before that
I do feel the need to give credit where credit is due the trails and the wind river range have been built over
centuries of human presence in the range
First and foremost, we need to thank our indigenous tribes of the wind river range
Primarily being the shoshone people
They have had a long and very close intimate relationship with the wind river range for a very very long time
However, there have been a lot of other cultures presence in the winds over time including the crow people
Cheyenne arapaho blackfoot and the lakota people all have ties back to the wind river range
and its early trails
The present day trails have been maintained and some of which have been built by the u.s forest service
due to the land being wilderness status as well as a lot of local organizations such as
The wyoming wilderness association. So thank you to all who have brought those trails to life
As for the ccc which stands for the civilian conservation corps. It was founded in
1933 to create jobs for young unemployed unmarried men from the ages of 18 to 25
So they could have jobs in environmental
conservation and land management projects
Obviously, that's a pretty cool program
Obviously, I wish that the ladies could have been included but a cool program nonetheless
Ccc workers were involved in a wide array of projects that ranged from planting millions of trees to developing
And improving national parks and other types of public land
according to the u.s park service the ccc made over
125,000
miles of roads and trails and constructed an additional
13,100 miles of just foot trails
The program actually came to an end because we entered world war ii but over the course of its existence
They accomplished an incredible amount of projects all across the national park and public land systems
and if you
travel to national parks
Keep your eyes peeled because often you will see their name come up because they have been involved in some form of development
Of that park, which is always cool to see along your travels
We're already looking ahead at our travel plans for next year
Scary that next year is already so close but thinking ahead to our next adventures is an incredibly exciting process
Next year, we're going big and checking off our number one bucket list destination in the form of a group trip
In july 2026, we're heading to namibia
Think climbing epic sand dunes hiking to the iconic mud pans and seeing wildlife on not one not two
But three safaris
We'll be exploring ancient rock art getting to know a new culture and camping underneath the incredible desert skies
These trips are always life-changing not just because of the places that we go
But because of the people that we share those experiences with we'll handle all the logistics
All you need to do is show up ready for an incredible adventure
Space is limited. So check out all of the details via the link in the show notes
Grab your spot and let's make namibia
unforgettable
You didn't
Seriously think that I would let you go without spending at least a little bit of time being super nerdy about nature. Did you?
Okay, good because here we go
Yesterday as we were coming up and over a pass
we
came across
the single largest
weasel I have ever seen
It was the single largest weasel we had ever seen because it wasn't actually a weasel but we'll come back to that
It was bigger than our cat boo
It was also really playful. It kind of followed us down and then proceeded to play
In a snow drift that we slid down
but
it's made me realize or
just seeing where plant life lives and
all these animals
It's amazing how persistent life is and where it can
flourish truly
Sorry, i'm so out of breath. I don't know why I decided to do this while we're climbing
But this is a note to myself
to look into
Do weasels hibernate?
And do pikas hibernate?
We've been seeing a ton of pika
So cute
the cutest
Rodent that I think has ever graced the earth
pretty much a ball with fur
But they collect flowers and plant matter
And they stash it under rocks
to eat in the winter
Which leads me to believe that they don't hibernate
but
it's quite
Interesting when you because we've come across a couple of plant caches
And it is amazing how much
Plant matter they have gathered
It's like billowing out from underneath rocks
So yeah, definitely want to look into that more
Turns out my on-site knowledge of animals in the mistellid family is not great
Mistellids just so you know are the carnivorous mammal family that contains weasels badgers otters pole cats martens
Grissons which I wasn't familiar with and wolverines
After some careful research I did find that what we saw that day was actually an american marten
I just had weasels on the brain because we had just seen a weasel a few days earlier
Which is much smaller and it ran through our camp that first night on trail still really cool though
All right
Now let's answer my own questions about these characters
weasels martens and pikas
Pikas, by the way are not in the mistellid family
They do not hibernate
However, they all prepare for winter very differently and it's quite fascinating
Least weasels, which is what we saw on that first day run through our camp
They have a chestnut brown coloration with a white chest in the summer, but in the winter their coat turns
completely white
They remain active all year and have to store a surplus of food in their burrows to survive the winter
But I think that the craziest adaptation that they have
Is that their brains?
Shrink in the winter to use less caloric energy
You can always count on nature to do some crazy ---- in the name of survival. That is so insane to me
Martens like the one that we saw coming up and over the past. They do not change colors
Their brain does not shrink which sounds kind of lame
I maybe shouldn't have led with all the crazy stuff that at least weasel does
However, they do become far less active in the cold months for the sake of conserving energy which
same
Last but not least pikas. They're very active year-round and have extremely high metabolisms that require them to eat
Nearly constantly including through the cold months of the year
Pikas spend all summer collecting and storing large piles of plants called hay piles, which is what we saw
stuffed underneath the large rocks on trail
And to access these hay piles in the winter, they travel through self-made tunnels under the snow
Pretty dang neat, but y'all it's so cute the pikas they run around they look like they have these huge
Bouquets of flowers and grass in their mouth. It's
Absolutely adorable. I will say regardless all of these critters live in incredibly
unforgiving landscapes and I just find it to be
Incredibly fascinating that despite their size they have made
Full adaptations to make their life work for the environment that they live in
life, uh
It always finds a way
On the second to last day on trail. We missed the entrance into a small valley that we were supposed to be traversing
And we had been off route for well over an hour
And we're having a hard time reading the topographic map to know if we were actually going to be able to make it
Up and over the terrain that laid between us and where we were supposed to be on route
and then
Out of the middle of nowhere this thought popped into my brain the path forward is not always clear
But if you take a few steps forward
it will make
The next few steps known
And you just keep doing that
over and over and over
And it eventually will get you to where you need to be
Lessons from the trail
Far too often. I feel like we want to have everything figured out before we make a single move
But in reality you have to start taking steps forward to make it clear what your next move even should be
Eventually, we did make it back to the trail
The detour probably cost us over an hour and I think that we probably also hiked an extra mile
It wasn't until later that we realized that if we would have stayed on pace
We would have been in an incredibly dangerous place when a storm hit us later that afternoon
So see you always end up
Where you need to be
If you enjoyed this episode consider giving our film sideways a watch
Even though the film documents the same trip they cover very different aspects of the trail and the experience
You can obviously find a link to that video in the show notes of this episode
Thank you so much for listening and we'll see you down the trail
