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Hello and welcome to another lesson.
Today we are going to get into the
introduction to argument and persuasion.
There is a lot to unpack here today. So
let's get into it. Some definitions for
you. So you might look at these and
think that most of them are synonyms or
close to being synonyms, but that is
definitely not the case. We use these
terms very differently in English. So,
let's get into defining them. An
argument is the exchange of views that
do not agree. This does not necessarily
have to be heated or angry, but that's
kind of the connotation it carries. If I
come to you and I say that me and my
husband had an argument, then you would
think that it was going to be a negative
thing, a bad thing. But an argument can
also be a very structured debate type of
thing. Maybe somebody can say well what
is your argument to figure out what do
you think and this again it carries more
of a formal idea. If you say that I have
written out a paper on my argument for
globalization for example, then perhaps
somebody would think of this as a more
formal thing, an academic thing, but
casually it means more like an argument
or not really a fight, but an a heated
exchange of words if you will.
A debate. A debate is a formal
discussion on a particular topic on
opposing views particularly in public.
Now this formal discussion has to be a
very specific topic. It could be a range
of topics all of which are tied to one
united theme. Whether that's a
presidential debate so that we can hear
the different candidates perspectives on
various items or whether it is over one
sole heated debate over a particular
item that is of the utmost importance to
a region or an area whatever it is a
debate is very very formal. Usually
there is a moderator to keep things
under control and that moderator must be
neutral.
A discussion. A discussion is the
process of just talking about something
in order to reach a decision or to
exchange ideas. You would see this in a
business context quite a bit where
you're going to sit around a table. You
have an agenda. There is a goal to reach
by the end of the discussion. There's
not a lot of anger happening. There's no
agendas to like change your ideas.
There's no like feelings or anything
like that being thrown in there. It is
just a general discussion on the topic.
This is different and more formal than a
conversation. You can have a
conversation with your friends very
easily, casually, without a second
thought. However, a discussion does
require some thinking, but not as much
as an argument or a debate would have.
Persuasion. Persuasion is an attempt to
convince someone to do or believe
something. You can also say convince.
Um, so to cause someone to believe in
the truth of something would be the verb
convince. Persuasion is the noun. So to
persuade someone, you have evidence. You
have a structured idea. You have a goal
and you have a very clear agenda. Your
agenda is to make them think the way you
think or to convince them that something
is true. You can persuade something
somebody of something that is not true
or that you yourself do not believe. The
point of persuasion is to see if you can
manipulate how that person feels about
something. And this is done for fun all
the time. Maybe you can think of a
parent trying to persuade their kid.
Maybe a dad is trying to persuade their
kid that ice cream tastes like mud, for
example. Um, that can be a really funny
thing to behold and something that you
pick on the kid for for years later. But
you also have persuasion in terms of
commercials and in terms of marketing.
They're trying to persuade you to buy
something. That is also persuasion.
There are many, many devices and
elements of persuasion that we are
actually going to flesh out in another
lesson. But for now, think of it as
there is an agenda for that somebody has
to tell you something. And that goal is
to convince you of something. Whether
it's true or not, or whether it's
believable or not, they are trying to
convince you of something.
Coercion. Coercion is the ugly form of
persuasion. This is the practice of
persuading someone to do something by
using force or threats.
Coercion we see in a lot of movies. We
see, well, if you don't do this, then
your girlfriend's going to die, right?
That's a very common thing. If you don't
do what I tell you, if you don't rob a
bank, then your kids are going to die or
you'll never see your kids again or
whatever it is. American action movies
use coercion as a device all the time to
make a character have no choice but to
do something. And really, it's not that
they have no choice. It's that that
choice is so terrible to make that they
would opt for the one that pleases
whoever is doing the coercing. Coercion
is a very um dangerous thing. Anybody
who convert coerces you into anything is
probably not looking out for your
well-being. So definitely a huge
difference between coercion, persuasion,
discussion, debate, and argument.
I want you later on to be able to
identify all of these from one another.
So we're going to get into defining
these a little bit, and I'm going to
give you an example of each one. An
argument is at least two people
expressing opposing views. Now, notice
that this can be more people, but
arguments tend to be more fruitful and
more uh accurate when it's between two
people sharing opposing views rather
than three, four, five, six, however
many. Because if you have many, many
more people trying to express their
opposing views, you're going to get a
lot more emotion in there. You're going
to get some anger in there. You're going
to get a lot of miscommunication. And
that's when arguments just fall apart.
So it's a view or statement supported by
personal examples and emotions. So this
is one definition. Okay. One definition
of argument is definitely something that
you see in family a lot where they it's
heated, angry, maybe the reasoning for
somebody's thinking is really stupid
because it's very emotional. Um we're
going to see an example of that today.
But it can also be an expression of
one's personal views supported with
examples and evidence like it's
prethought. This is something that
they've thought about. they've
structured that they have researched
that they have found answers for.
It's structured and shares elements of
debate and persuasion. So, we're going
to get into the difference of sharing
the elements of debate and persuasion as
we go. The structure of an argument
tends to be a blanket statement and then
they have reason one. They have evidence
for that. Whether it's personal
evidence, emotional evidence, or
experiential evidence, it doesn't
matter. The fact is is that there's
evidence. And then they might have
another reason with evidence. And they
keep going reason, evidence, reason,
evidence, reason, evidence. Whether that
evidence is good or not in that personal
argument with a family member or friend,
then eventually you'll reach a
conclusion like, well, this is what it
is and that's why I think so.
Arguments can be very, how do you say,
arguments can be very powerful. They can
be very compelling, but they can also be
very infuriating and ridiculous because
of the emotional element that is
possible within an argument.
So for example, I want you to watch this
episode of friends or not the whole
episode but the scene from friends and
look at the argument. Isolate what they
are arguing about and how do they
support their own arguments. Go for it.
>> Dude, some guy just called for you.
>> Who was it?
>> I don't know. How about thanks for
taking the message. Jesus.
>> Hey, listen. You know when you move in,
Rachel's room's going to be empty. You
want to talk about what we want to do
with it?
>> Sure.
>> Okay. I was thinking we should have a
beautiful guest room, right? With um a
mahogany sleigh bed and bedside tables
with flowers on it all the time. And
then we could have like a roll top desk
with little comment cards so people can
tell us how much they love staying here.
>> Whatever. You know, I really haven't
thought about it that much.
>> Well, I like that idea, obviously.
But I was thinking maybe maybe it could
be a game room, you know? I mean, you
can buy old arcade games like uh like
Space Invaders and Asteroids for $200.
The real ones, the big big big ones.
>> No.
>> Okay. So, you mean no as in G Chandler?
What an interesting idea. Let's discuss
it before we reject it completely.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Of course.
>> Yes. Interesting idea. Um, talk about
it, but no.
>> So, that's it. Well, I just don't think
that, you know, arcade games go in the
beautiful guest room. The beautiful
guest room is going to be filled with
antiques,
>> which is why Asteroids is perfect. It's
the oldest game.
>> What do you have against the beautiful
guest room?
>> Nothing. I don't have anything against
the beautiful guest room, especially
since everybody that we know lives about
30 seconds away.
>> Are you mocking me?
>> No, I'm not mocking you or your
beautiful gig.
>> I'm sorry about before. I don't need to
have a game room. I mean, when I was a
kid, I only played those games because I
couldn't get girls. And now I can get.
Now I have you.
>> No, no, no. Not that I think that I have
you or think of you as property in any
sort of way. I see women.
>> Stop it, Taylor.
>> I'm sorry, too.
>> Really?
>> Yeah. Oh, yes.
>> Listen, we don't have to make that a
guest room. We can think of something to
do with the room together.
>> That's a great idea. We can easily think
of a way for us both to enjoy the room.
>> Totally.
>> We don't have to come up with this now.
>> Oh, good.
>> Hey, you know what? Why don't we think
about changes that we can make in the
living room?
>> Changes?
>> Yeah. I mean, we're going to have to
move around some furniture to make room
for my chair.
You going to bring the barker lounger
over here?
>> Is that a problem? Well,
it's just that they're a set and they
should probably stay together.
>> Oh, that's cool. Then I'll just uh bring
them both over.
>> See, now now you're taking them away
from their home.
>> Okay, I get it. So, I get nothing.
Nothing here is mine. Everything is
yours. I'll get up in the morning, put
on your clothes, and head off to work.
>> Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Yeah, that's
it. That's it. Everything will be mine.
Nothing will be yours. That That's what
I said. Oh, come on, Chandler. I'm
talking about the bark and lounger. It
just It doesn't match. Where is it going
to go?
>> In the game room.
>> Look, it is not my fault that your
chairs are incredibly ugly.
>> All right, that's fine. That's fine. I
won't bring over the chairs. I won't
bring anything over. I wouldn't want to
ruin the ambiance over here at grandma's
place.
>> So, yes, that was pretty humorous,
right? Uh Monica and Chandler are
arguing over something really
ridiculous, which isn't the extra room
in the house. Their friend Rachel is
moving out. Chandler's moving in. and
they're talking about how should we
design the room? What should we do with
it? Because we can't waste the space.
So, what are they arguing over the guest
room? Monica's position and how she
supports it. Anukica says that she wants
this this guest room. She wants it to be
beautiful with antiques in there and
fresh flowers all the time. And she
wants she wants people to come over and
experience that guest room and enjoy it
and thank them for it. She wants to be
recognized for being such a careful
hostess. But Chandler is like, "Nobody
lives close enough. Nobody lives close
enough to make a guest room worth it. So
I think that we should put a game room
in. we should have these vintage video
games from the Space Invaders and all of
these things that I'm not sure if you're
familiar with American vintage games or
not, but he wants a game room like an
arcade. And he wants to do that so he
can entertain his friends so he himself
can go in there and since people that
they know live nearby, they would
probably enjoy that more than a guest
room that they would never stay in. But
Monica doesn't even want to hear it.
She's just like, "You know what? No. And
that kind of stubbornness is what sets
off the argument to be more and more and
more ridiculous, right? There's a lot of
emotion happening. There's a lot of just
silliness happen. The way that they are
arguing is just silly, right? But very
entertaining for American TV
debate. This is a very formal discussion
of opposing views on one topic. Each
person is able to share their position
and rebuttal with the other. We say
rebuttal. R E B U T T T T T T T T T T T
T T T T T T T T T T T A L. Rebuttals are
when somebody says something, the
opposing viewpoint person says
something, we would say opponent. So
when that opponent says something, you
can give a rebuttal. You can say, "Well,
that's not how it is because what about
this evidence, this evidence, and this
evidence?" Then the moderator will turn
to the opponent and say, "What do you
have to say in response?" And then they
go back and forth. It's a very very
structured way to debate to have an
argument essentially. However, you have
a neutral moderator. There is somebody
who's controlling it most of the time.
The use of primary sources, proper
evidence, and citations recognized by
everyone are required or you will lose
credibility. If you stand up in there
and say that I think dogs are better
than cats because I just think so and
because in my experience that is better.
Well, that is not a primary source.
There is no proper evidence and you
would probably have to step down from
the debate because you have no
credibility to make a claim like that.
However, if you have years and years and
years of work in the American Humane
Society, for example, or you are a
scientist who works between dogs and
cats and studies their brains or their
psych their psychology, physiology,
whatever, then maybe you have the
credibility to make a claim like that.
But it would be a stretch and you would
immediately have a lot of enemies in the
audience, right? All of your cat people
would be very frustrated with such a
statement. So you would have to be very
very careful with how you approach that
and be able to give
uh evidence that nobody can deny.
Okay. So these can get heated and messy
but the speakers lose credibility when
they reduce a debate to a squabble. So
if that debate just gets worse and worse
and worse then it becomes a squabble.
Something that a squabble is a very
unprofessional thing to do. It is like
an argument, but it's petty. Petty means
so unimportant. Things that don't
matter. That's just being squabbled
about and it's out of control. It's
emotional. It's just very out of place
with how the speakers are acting.
This happened with the American
presidential debates uh not very long
ago. It feels like it was seems like
such an embarrassment to America because
that's what happened. Nobody was obeying
the rules. The candidates were not
obeying the rules. They were talking
over one another. They were being very
ugly with one another in so many ways,
making personal attacks that was a
disgrace to the American people. And
none of us could believe that's what we
were watching. It was pretty ridiculous.
So that is a great example of a public
event where it just degenerated into a
squabble and both both candidates lost a
lot of face for that. Now I do want to
say that a debate is meant for an
audience. It is intended to be watched
in the public eye and because of that it
is very structured. Because of that
there is a neutral moderator. An
argument is not designed to be watched.
Even on TV and stuff, they try to make
it more and more natural. Of course,
they expect an audience with TV as in
friends. However, a debate is intended
through and through from the very
beginning to be watched.
All right. So, watch this debate over
super team comments.
If you're the Los Angeles Lakers and you
draft or you have Norm Nixon and then
all of a sudden you draft Byron Scott
and he ends up as a part of your team.
If you have Bird and and and you know
and Parish and you know you get Mail or
whatever the case may be. Clearly this
is a situation where I'm talking about a
team building and assembling a roster
full of talent as opposed to players
coming together as one. You can't knock
them, particularly in this day and age,
for looking at their business interest
because the more successful you are, the
more money you make, the less dependent
you are on people down the road, which
is a beautiful, beautiful thing. And I
understand that. But what we're talking
about is and, and let's face it, we're
not talking about LeBron as much as
Durant in this situation. And I've tried
to explain this to a lot of people that
try to make that argument comparing the
two. When LeBron went to Miami, Miami
had gotten bounced out in the first
round the year before. And LeBron Dw Way
Wade and Bosch had never played
together. The issue with Durant is that
not only was he a superstar, not only
did he had had he just lost in the
conference finals to the same team a
month earlier, but everyone was there
but him. Had none of them played
together and they assembled, that's
entirely different than you joining an
already welloiled machine. Well, it's a
lot different in the collegiate game
because agree it's one shot, one kill in
the NCA tournament. In the NBA, the best
team usually wins because it's a seven
game series. And it's not super teams.
See, it's not allstar teams that people
are mad about because nobody's mad that
Paul George plays with Russell
Westbrook. It's super teams. That means
when an in MVP level player decides
that, oh, I'm going to go play in Miami.
Oh, I'm going to go play in Golden
State. And that's always transpired in
the NBA. It's just you talked about when
you get drafted, i.e. when the team does
it versus when I choose as a free agent
when I do it.
>> But that's not all I talked about.
You're right. But that's not all I
talked about. I also talked about that
superstar joining a welloiled machine.
If the Golden State Warriors, if Steph
and Clay and Draymond weren't together
and they all decided to go together and
join Kevin Durant, as much as you might
not like that, you can still wait and
take a wait and see approach. But when
you're 73 and N and when an argument is
being made, like
>> that's one example, but that's
>> KD is a the an isolated example because
the Warriors are the only team in the
history of the NBA to have two allars
both under 30.
>> Well, that's fair. Well, that has never
happened.
>> No, no, no. The reason why it's relevant
is because, you know, all it takes is
one to really turn folks off. If you're
looking at the National Basketball
Association at that particular moment in
time, think about what time and recent
memory where we sat back and said, "This
is a damn waste of time. Ain't no reason
to even watch. We haven't done that."
>> Let me go back to my point.
>> Sure.
>> Nobody's mad at Kyrie for being on
Boston. You know why? The team traded
him, i.e. the organization like you keep
alluding to, and he's not an MVP
candidate.
>> That's not the reason.
>> But the Boston Celtics horrific
basketball hold. That's a horrible
example.
>> Okay. So, what are the opposing
positions?
How do you know this is a debate and how
does it begin to devolve into an
argument? We're seeing a little bit of
so the opposing positions they tend they
both speakers have a different position
obviously and it's at odds with one
another.
One of them says super teams like having
lots of star players on one team is a
really bad idea and should not happen.
Whereas another one says that super
teams already happen. So what's the
point of saying they shouldn't? And
would that not be more entertaining? Do
you think that there's no such thing as
a super team being able to compete with
other super teams? Like all of these
things, there's a lot of there's a lot
of elements that they're bringing up in
here, but these are the main points. How
do you know this is a debate? Each
person has evidence from cited sources
and they take turns. They are using
critical sources and then it's when it
starts to devolve into an argument, they
start to use more their own
interpretation of things as they see it.
And that's when it starts to get really
heated and really aggressive. They start
to interrupt each other and speak over
one another. Just kind of being ugly and
somewhat entertaining is the idea, I
think. But definitely this was an odd
one. It was intended to be a debate, but
because they didn't have a moderator,
then it devolved into an argument fairly
quickly. Discussion. Participants of a
discussion simply present their views in
the logical flow of a conversation that
is centered on one topic. There is maybe
a planned topic, maybe the questions are
planned, but after that nothing nothing
is planned. Now, you can also have
something where you walk in and have a
discussion that is not planned. For
example, if a kid acts up at school and
needs to go to the principal's office,
he is going to have a discussion with
the principal because that discussion is
all about why did you do this? I need to
understand why you were disobedient to
your teacher, but then what should we do
with you? How will you be disciplined or
will you just be warned this time? The
notice that there's one point. One point
is understanding where the kid came from
and what to do with him about it. That
would be a discussion. There is an
agenda, a very clear agenda. Everything
about that conversation moves toward
that goal. You don't bring a kid who's
been disobedient with his teacher into
the principal's office and talk about
rabbits. Okay? That's just not how it's
going to happen. So, definitely uh pay
attention to when something is a
discussion rather than an argument.
The purpose is to learn from one
another. There are things that you need
to know from one another. There are
things you need to understand in order
to reach the joint decision. There's no
agenda to persuade or show off. This is
not intended to have an audience
necessarily.
It can and there are many talk TV shows
in America that do like the view or the
round table. any of those are. Yes, you
can have discussion within its slight
agenda and the whole goal being to
persuade or show off. However,
that is not the point. The point is to
just discuss the topic and to explore
one another's perspectives on that
topic. There is no trying to convince
one another of the truth of something.
There is no coercion. Definitely, there
is no argument. An argument can spring
from a discussion, but that is not the
point. That is not the intent and
nobody's really pushing for that. This
is mo much more casual.
It is very very very focused. That is
the main thing you need to really
understand from a discussion. It is very
focused on that topic.
So go ahead and watch this roundt
discussion of Steve Jobs. And keep in
mind that this was designed to be
watched, but you can also tell by the
people and their responses that they are
coming up with these responses on the
spot. So, go ahead and watch and then
we'll get back. Please, you have to tell
me why it's so important for it to say
hello.
>> Hollywood, they made computer scary
things.
See how this reminds you of a friendly
face? That the disc slot is a goofy
grin. It's warm and it's playful and it
needs to say hello. It needs to say
hello because it can.
Steve's had this skill to create these
things that weren't just useful. They
weren't just successful as commodities.
People have relationships with them. He
talks in the first act about, you know,
can't you see how it has a friendly face
with a goofy grin and it worked. People
love their devices. They love the
experience of opening up the box. You
know, I really never viewed him as a
creative entity before working on the
movie. And that to me was actually
probably the biggest revelation was that
he really was an artist in a lot of
ways. The fact that he was able to put
his own personality and his own
shortcomings and wonderful attributes
into this technology. In the same way a
writer or an actor is able to funnel
themselves into their work, he was able
to do that with products. It was a true
marriage of function and art.
>> A creative genius, one a pioneer, one of
the great figures in certainly American
maybe world history. Edison, Alexander
Graham Bell, Steve Jobs. He's in that
sentence. He was constantly in love with
that next idea and that next thing and
the people that he dragged with him, but
nothing was going to interfere with
getting to that next thing. That's
pretty powerful stuff. There are many
people like that.
>> He's shaped the way that we live today.
And you know none of that none of that
was by chance. I mean he was an
extraordinarily brilliant man.
>> I think it's really important that these
huge figures are answerable. You know
it's not comfortable making films about
them especially lots of people are still
alive about them and and you know it's a
very challenging portrait. It's
uncompromising both the performance and
the depiction of him. The writing it
shows many many sides of him which is
wonderful.
>> He did actually say to people you know
who are you? Tell me about yourself.
What do you do? What is it? Okay show
me. Let's see. He wanted the best out of
people. I have real appreciation for
that side of him. As dogged as it might
have been and as difficult as it might
have been for some people to work with
that level of scrutiny, he wanted the
best out of people for sure. Okay. So,
what are the elements of discussion you
see in this clip?
And did anyone
come to the discussion with an obvious
agenda? Did you see anybody in there
trying to convince one another of
anything? And how is this different from
a debate?
There's a lot to answer right here. So,
elements of discussion that you see in
this clip, each person has an opinion.
Notice that they would not be sitting at
that table if they did not have an
opinion on Steve Jobs.
They are supposed to share this casually
with everyone else on the same topic.
You see coffee mugs. If you see people
not sitting up straight, being super
proper, instead they're much more
relaxed. Yes, they're on TV and they
know that. Yes, they are still
communicating, making eye contact and
stuff. Whereas in real life, somebody
might look down at their phone or they
might be distracted by looking at the
window, whatever. You don't have that.
But you do have a lot of casual
conversation. And it does not seem they
have prepared their remarks beforehand.
Maybe they were informed that they will
be speaking about Steve Jobs and should
share what they think about him as
they've been working on this movie about
Steve Jobs, but you don't have this
whole very structured argument with
evidence to support and all of these.
You don't have that. So, did anyone come
to the discussion with an agenda? Does
not seem to be the case. It definitely
seems that they were informed that they
would be talking about this topic of
Steve Jobs and they should share an
opinion, but it does not seem like they
are not listening to the other in order
to think of their own thing to say. That
doesn't seem to be the case at all here.
Number three, how is this different from
a debate? There is no audience to
convince. Like there's no audience in
the room that's intended. These are
probably just cameras and the people
sitting around the table. There's no
quoting of cited sources. There's no
moderator to control the discussion and
there is no structured arguments. There
is no statement, evidence, reasoning,
statement, evidence, reasoning. There's
none of that. So definitely a great
example of a filmed discussion in a
semiformal matter.
Persuasion.
This is an argument purposefully
designed to convince someone to believe
or do something. The easiest thing I can
tell you about persuasion that you you
yourself may do one day, have done re in
the past, or are doing currently is to
convince a child to persuade a
three-year-old child to eat his dinner.
That is a great example of persuasion.
Maybe a parent might say, "But we have
cake for dessert, so if you finish, you
can have some cake." Or, "Hey, we have
this." or we have a long day ahead or
you're going to go down to sleep and
you're going to be hungry and tired if
you don't eat some food and you need
some energy. Whatever it is, this is
persuasion. Parents do it all the time.
Commercials, politicians, marketers,
teachers also have an agenda to persuade
the their audience to believe something
or do something. Whether that's to buy
something, whether it's to be obedient,
whether it is to vote for them, whatever
it is, when someone is persuading you,
they want you to do or believe something
for them.
The structure tends to be uh statement,
evidence, reasoning. They explain the
evidence and why and then they make a
connection. What is the importance of
that evidence and reasoning? How does it
support that main statement? They're
doing this all the time. When someone is
trying to convince you of something or
to persuade you of something, they are
constantly giving you evidence from a
range of things. Maybe there's a motive
evidence. Maybe there's something that
they noticed about you the other day
that they want to bring up because it's
going to strengthen their case to get
you to do or believe something. This is
very interesting. We're going to break
down persuasion and persuasive devices
and being able to con uh to comprehend
them in a story or in a video. We're
going to break that down in a future
lesson, but definitely understand where
these are coming from.
All right, I want you to watch the right
to choose. This is one that's very
short, but catch it. Notice what's going
on here and catch it and notice what's
different about this than a debate.
Tony, if someone dies on your watch, you
don't give up.
>> Who's ever giving up?
>> We are for not taking responsibility for
our actions. This document just shifts
the blame.
>> Sorry, Steve. That that is dangerously
arrogant. This is the United Nations
we're talking about. It's not the World
Security Council. It's not Shield. It's
not Hydro.
>> No, but it's run by people with agendas
and agendas change.
>> That's good. That's why I'm here. When I
realized what my weapons were capable of
in the wrong hands, I shut it down. Stop
manufacturing. Tony, you chose to do
that. If we sign this, we surrender our
right to choose.
What if this panel sends us somewhere we
don't think we should go? What if
there's somewhere we need to go and they
don't let us? We may not be perfect, but
the safest hands are still our own. If
we don't do this now, it's going to be
done to us later.
>> Who is trying to convince who? If you
need to go back and watch it again, what
are the two sides of the argument? And
does either side seem convinced?
Captain America is trying to convince
the others that they have rights. The
others are trying to sway Captain
America's traditional position. Notice
that the two sides of the argument are
as as follows. Captain America says it
is fundamentally not right for a
government body to control them as a
private group. He thinks it will lead to
misuse of the Avengers. If they submit
to the to the accords, the Skovia
Accords, then they could be controlled
by someone else. And if that
organization gets um gets corrupted, as
they've already seen prior movies, then
they would be controlled by an evil
group or that group is going to use it
against other countries in order to
persuade them or coers them into doing
whatever that governing body wants them
to do. He doesn't want the Avengers
controlled. Iron Man and others are
trying to convince Captain America that
they have no choice but to allow the UN
to control them because it will happen
anyway. Because everything that they've
done to this point is so destructive.
Though they are trying to defend from
aliens and keep people safe, they end up
hurting a lot of people and destroying a
lot of infrastructure in doing so
because the job is hard. Does either
side seem convinced at the end of this?
Does not seem to be the case. Neither
side seems to be convinced by the
other's argument. Coercion. This is
persuading someone to do something by
force or threat. If you don't do this, I
will do this thing to you not want me to
do. Right? So maybe if if you don't do
your homework, you will fail my class.
Right? That is a very common thing a
common thing of co coercion built into
our school systems. If you do not
complete the work then you will not get
the reward of graduating and move on.
Now coercion can take a lot of forms. It
could be much more simple and easy like
built into an educational system as in
as is the case with taking standardized
tests and if you don't study for the
test you will fail the test and if you
fail the test then you will not go on to
higher education and if you don't go on
to higher education it's going to be
more difficult to get a job. There's
there's a lot of coercion built into
society. There are other types of
coercion where maybe somebody who is a
bad person will take somebody that you
love or are close to. This is a very
common uh action movie trope, but
they'll take them and offer to hurt them
if you don't obey them and what they
want. Coercion can take a lot of forms
and usually can get on the very dark
side very quickly. However, you do need
to recognize that there is there are
elements of coercion throughout society
as well. It doesn't always have to be a
dark evil thing. It can also be somewhat
of a good thing. We still in a negative
context, but you know what I mean a
little bit. I think coercion is the dark
side of persuasion.
It leaves a person with no choice. And I
put that in quotation marks because
really they could still choose the other
way. They could still choose to not do
the thing, but it will come at a great
cost. Whether it's going to come at the
cost of a loved one or the cost of
actual finances or the cost of an
opportunity, whatever it is, it's going
to cost them something to not choose to
do what's being asked. There's this this
thing called blackmail. This is a very
common example of coercion. Blackmail is
when you have dirt on the other. And so
if you want to force them to forcefully
persuade them to do something for you,
you could say, "Well, if you don't do
that for me, then I will show the world
this this evil thing that you did,
whatever it is." And then they would
have no choice but to do it. The deal is
if they do it, you give them the
evidence and they get to keep their
their reputation intact. Let's see an
example of this.
Listen, I don't know what you're doing
skulking around during daylight hours,
but I don't want any trouble in here.
So, hit the road.
>> I'm not looking for any trouble either,
sir. I simply want to buy a jumbo pop
for my little boy.
You want the red or the blue, pal?
>> I'm such a
>> Oh, come on, kid. Back up. Listen,
buddy. What? There aren't any Fox ice
cream joints in your part of town?
>> Uh, no. No, there are. There are. It's
just my boy, this goofy little stinker.
He loves all things elephant, wants to
be one when he grows up. Is that
adorable?
Who the heck am I to crush his little
dreams? Huh? Right.
>> Look, you probably can't read, Fox, but
the sign says, "We reserve the right to
refuse service to anyone, so beat it."
>> You're holding up the line.
>> Hello. Excuse me.
>> Hey, you're going to have to wait your
turn like everyone else, meter maid.
>> Actually, I'm an officer. Just had a
quick question. Are your customers aware
they're getting snot and mucus with
their cookies and cream?
>> What are you talking about?
>> Well, I don't want to cause you any
trouble, but I believe scooping ice
cream with an unglloved trunk is a class
3 health code violation,
which is kind of a big deal. Of course,
I could let you off with a warning if
you were to glove those trunks and, I
don't know, finish selling this nice dad
and his son a what was it? A jumbo pop,
please.
>> A jumbo pop.
>> $15.
>> Thank you so much. Thank you.
>> So, yes, we have the popsicle clip here.
What does the fox want? How does the
rabbit coers the business owner? And
what do you think happens next?
Okay, so the fox wants to buy a jumbo
popsicle, an elephant-sized popsicle for
his little elephantl looking son. Later
on the movie, we see that this is not
the case. But at this point in the
movie, that's what we're supposed to
think. How does the rabbit coerc the
business owner? She points out that the
employee in the back is not wearing a
glove on his trunk when he scoops the
ice cream. So, the customers are getting
snot and mucus in their ice cream, which
is really, really gross if you think
about it. But she says, "Hey, you have
transgressed a health safety standard.
So, if you if you you know, I might let
you off of a warning instead if you
simply give a popsicle to this fox, like
sell it to the fox."
And so notice her idea here is not, you
know, I'm going to hold this over you
forever. I'm going to keep coming back
and demanding things from you. No, the
goal is to get the immediate return. And
then she simply issues a warning so that
the business stays open. If it is
assumed, even though it is not directly
said, you can comprehend and assume that
if the elephant business owner refuses,
then she will write them up at the
police station and get them into lots of
trouble, which will honestly probably
result in being shut down, shutting down
the elephant dessert business. So,
very important thing to see here,
though. She looks so bright and happy
and cute and stuff. She's actually
blackmailing the business owner. She's
saying, "I'll give you a warning instead
if you sell them this popsicle." So,
what do you think happens next? The fox
is definitely up to something. Not being
as nice as you would think. So, the fox
cannot pay because honestly, he takes
these, he steals, and he does a hustle.
All of those things. You can watch
Zootopia. It is a fun movie. But that's
the idea is the rabbit pays for him. So
honestly, the fox gets out with someone
else doing all the work of coercing the
elephant into doing that and then he
doesn't even pay. So very interesting,
very typical of a fox.
So what are the differences between
argument, debate, and persuasion? An
argument can be casual, typically is.
It's a point that may be created and
defended on the fly. Whereas a debate is
very formal, very structured argument
that is thought of beforehand. You have
evidence to support it. That is solid
evidence. Whereas persuasion, it can be
casual. It can be debat-like.
It can be I mean it could it could have
an audience or maybe it doesn't have an
audience. It could be spoken or written.
Persuasion can. A debate tends to be
spoken and an argument tends to be
spoken. So that's a huge difference
between argument and debate and
persuasion.
Uh an argument is supported mainly by
emotions or personal experiences. Not
very formally done. Whereas a debate you
have to have great solid evidence that
everybody recognizes as trustworthy. And
if it is not considered trustworthy to
be a source by the audience, you've got
to make a case for why it is worth using
and citing in the argument. That is a
very important thing to notice and to
note with debates. You cannot lose
credibility.
A persuasion has lots of evidence and
conclusions all of which draw from
different things. Maybe there are some
real sources. Maybe there are some
elements in life and life experiences.
Or hey, you don't want that to happen
again, do you? Or you know, it could be
as formal or as casual as you'd like.
Persuasion is a device used all over
an argument. The sources do not really
have to be cited and it could be public
or private, but it is often spoken. You
can write an argument, but it tends to
be spoken and in or intended to be
spoken anyway. A debate has a moderator
whereas an argument does not and
persuasion does not
and it tends to be public for that
reason. It is a formal event designed
for the public eye.
Persuasion has an appeal to feelings, to
logic, and credibility to build a case.
So, we're going to get into persuasion
in a later um lesson. We're going to get
into bait in a letter lesson. So, don't
worry. We're going to break these down
very well because honestly, you
comprehend all three of these
differently.
So, why is it important to identify
types of persuasion?
If you don't identify the situation, you
won't know what is being asked of you.
If if you read something that's meant to
be persuasive, but you interpret it as
an argument that you are not supposed to
act for, then you've gravely
misunderstood the intent of the speaker
and could cause yourself some issues.
Does the speaker want you to believe
something, buy something, or do
something? This takes comprehension.
You've got to identify if they're just
arguing that one thing is better than
another, or are they trying to persuade
you? You won't pick up on logical
fallacies. If you're just reading this
as if it's a fiction novel, you're not
going to pick up on logical
inconsistencies. Therefore, you would be
easier to fool. You don't want to be
easy to fool. But that means working on
your comprehension to understand to
identify what is being said, how it is
being said, what is the structure of it,
and what is the author's intent. You
need to know all of those things.
You've got to know whether the evidence
is logical or not. If it's not logical,
then you have a logical fallacy and you
could be honestly duped into doing
anything.
You won't be able to break down the text
to the most important points. Guys, this
is key. As I've as I've said throughout
this course, it is key to be able to
break something down into various
elements. If you don't do this, it is so
much more difficult to comprehend. Now,
as you practice this, you are going to
get better and better at it and
therefore faster and faster at it.
However, you've got to be patient and do
the work now. You've got to be able to
understand now and practice now. You've
got to be able to practice breaking
something down into its elements in
order to properly comprehend it. So,
what is the author asking? What is the
obvious point or the explicit uh
meaning? How do they support their
statement or is it supported or are
those sources even credible and why is
the author saying or writing this or the
implicit meaning? So why what is their
intent? What are they trying to do? Are
they trying to make you do something?
Are they trying to convince you to do
something? Are they trying to make you
buy something or believe something? Or
are they trying to entertain an
audience? Maybe their goal is to make
you look dumb. Maybe their goal is to
make you look very very smart. What is
the goal? What is what are they thinking
as they do this? And why why did they
structure it the way that they did? All
of these are really important in order
to comprehend correctly. You cannot
comprehend persuasion the same way you
would comprehend an argument because the
evidence is not equal. the whether it's
done in front of an audience like as in
a debate versus an argument in private
that should be comprehended differently
because in a debate maybe they're trying
to show off. Maybe they're trying to
convince the audience and show the
audience that their idea is better than
your idea. And if that's the case, you
need to show up ready to go. You need to
show up being ready to create your own
argument. So in the next lesson, we're
going to talk about debate. We're going
to break it down, okay? Because all of
these items are related and share some
elements. So, you notice that today,
right? We looked at five types of
persuasive, argumentative, debat-like
items. We we went through five of them.
They're very, very similar, but they are
not synonyms. Make sure you understand
that those five items are not synonyms.
Argument, debate, persuasion, coercion,
all of these are not synonyms.
Pay attention to whether someone is
trying to convince you, present an
opinion, or tear down another's point.
Because if you misunderstand somebody,
if you misinterpret their meaning, and
maybe they say, "Hey, I really like this
coffee shop down the street. Do you want
to go to the coffee shop?" Okay,
honestly, we can understand that. But if
you just jump on them and just be like,
"You know what? That's not the best
coffee out there. What about this other
place that we've been going to for
years?" Whoa, whoa, whoa. They were just
presenting an opinion, not trying to
convince you. Right? So, that's an
important thing. You don't want to make
a fool of yourself or damage a
relationship by misinterpreting what
they mean, right? That's a huge point in
any kind of language learning, honestly.
So, next we're going to talk about
debate. We're going to break down the
elements of persuasion in coming
lessons, and we're going to continue
with this idea of comprehending
non-fiction. So I will see you in the
next