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>> So, how do I stop spending everything I
make so I can start reaching financial
goals for myself?
>> Oh, interesting. What are you spending
money on?
>> Well, honestly, um, mostly Door Dash.
Um, but then just random stuff. Like I
always find a way, no matter how much
money comes in the paycheck, to spend it
all.
>> It's fair.
>> Love will find a way. Have you thought
about uh like deleting the Door Dash app
and forcing yourself to go inside of a
grocery store?
>> Yeah. Well, I actually didn't. I did
that like two days ago. Um and like you
said, love will find a way. It's just
like a creeping addiction, you know?
>> So, you see like the zucchini you bought
3 days ago and you're like, "Ah, Door
Dash sounds better. I'm redownloading
it.
>> Oh yeah,
>> like going back to an abusive ex
>> to a zucchini. Why don't you at least
say like
>> Well, we all aspirational grocery shop,
you know what I mean? We're like, you
know what? I'm going to eat a zucchini.
>> I'm going to eat a whole bag of spinach.
>> I saw a good Instagram air fryer
zucchini recipe. I'm going to
>> thing of spinach.
>> Well, Gabe, here's the thing. What are
your financial goals? Cuz I think they
have to be big enough and powerful
enough to fuel your love of Door Dash to
stop that.
>> Yeah. Well, first is get a car. Then
after that, a house and then after that
crack a million marks in net worth.
>> Love it. Those are great goals.
>> Okay,
>> that's the American dream summed up.
>> What are you doing for a living right
now?
>> Uh, right now it's not good. I'm
actually um working for the master I
feed. I door dash a lot for my question.
>> Wait, what?
>> Well, no wonder it's easy cuz you're
around it all the time. Like this Taco
Bell.
>> Wait, do you drive for Door Dash?
>> I'll pay myself to do it again.
>> Okay. You're not working for like Door
Dash corporate. You're like a
>> No, he's a Door Dasher. He's
>> Okay. How old are you?
>> Running around food for people.
>> Yeah.
>> How old are you?
>> I'm 20.
>> Under 20. Okay.
>> Are you in school? Did you not go to
college? What happened?
>> Yeah. Well, I'm in school for business
management right now.
>> Okay. What do you want to do with that?
Well, um, ideally, you know, um, get a
short-term management job to kind of
build up a nest egg and then go out on
my own and
>> try my hand at the entrepreneurial.
I can't talk.
>> Yeah, you're good.
>> So, you want to work in management of
something like is it retail? Is it
corporate? Have you sort of drilled down
into that to what you'd be most into?
Yeah, I'd be most into corporate, but
obviously if someone offers me a job
paying more than Door Dash does, I'll
take it at this point.
>> Have Okay. How much longer in school?
>> Yeah. When you graduate?
>> Uh, I'm expecting next summer.
>> Okay.
>> Cash flowing it or are you going to
debt?
>> I'm cash flowing it.
>> Great.
>> Do you have any debt?
>> I have $200 in credit cards.
>> Okay, we got that. It's good. Um, okay,
Gabe, you know what I'm going to say?
You're I'd say you're a typical
20-year-old guy. I don't think there's
anything wrong with you. I think you
need a little bit of motivation. Um, and
I think when you're in school, you have
a part-time job. Um, you know, you got
to just float your expenses. I mean, are
you living at home? How what what are
you doing like for rent and all of that?
>> Yeah. No, right now I'm living at home,
which probably doesn't help the
spending, but
>> Yeah. Well, it's fine. I mean, you're in
college. I think that's totally
appropriate. Um, so what do you have to
pay for? What are the things that are
you're responsible for?
>> Uh, right now it's just my phone and
gas.
>> Phone and gas. Okay.
>> And what are you making every month?
>> Uh, naturally it varies, but it's
usually about two grand a month.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> Because if I'm you, I have very little
motivation to even go work when my only
two things I need to survive is covering
a phone bill and gas.
>> And because you're a full-time college
student, so you're in co you're you're
in college. Um, which I don't think is
bad.
>> Yeah, that's great. You're in college,
you're doing well in your classes,
you're gonna graduate on time.
>> So, I think the best thing for you,
Gabe, honestly, right now, is to work on
your habits. And you need to start
creating some new financial routines.
>> And so, you can do this. You can even
automate some of this. I don't always
recommend that for people because I kind
of like people's behavior to change
because they're actually the ones doing
it. But for you, I would almost say,
yeah, make make it a goal where you
save, you know, half of that. Maybe you
save what if you saved $1,000 a month
cuz how much does your phone and gas
cost?
>> Not much. It usually shakes out to
around 3400.
>> Okay. So, yeah. What if you gave
yourself 600 bucks to spend on how you
want and then save half of your income
and you do that for the next golly six
months, you'd have $6,000 when you
graduate. That'll help you upgrade a car
and actually start moving. But, but you
can even go in and automate some of
this. like you can, you know, set up
some systems in place with online
banking and that kind of thing that when
your paycheck hits, um
>> it's like pay yourself first.
>> Yeah, absolutely. I'd be giving some
too. I think there there's a practice of
generosity in there. Give um you know,
it's ever how much you want, but even
200 bucks a month, practice that part.
Practice the saving part and then you
can still enjoy some of it. So, I think
you're in a good spot. I think it's just
the habits and the routines uh monthto
month that you need to change. And when
you kind of get those in place, you
start to be disciplined. you start to
know what you're doing. You're telling
your money what to do. And then when you
graduate and you get your first job,
those habits just go in from a $2,000 a
month um to maybe a $5,000 $6,000 a
month salary. And you know, you've
you've changed the way that you handle
your money. Literally, your behavior
changes.
>> Okay.
>> I was exactly like you, Gabe. I'm
looking back at when I was
>> You were not that much of a spender.
>> No, I But when I was living at home, I
was working in the Apple store.
>> Yeah. And every paycheck would just go
to like gear and just spend. I didn't I
wasn't saving any of it.
>> Well, because there's no urgency.
>> Exactly. I was living at home. And so I
just I remember feeling that way, Gabe.
And what unlocked it for me was getting
out of the house. I moved across the
country, started fresh, finished school,
and that sort of put a new pep in my
step to go, listen, mom's not going to
save you with her home-cooked meals. I
don't think you got to move out, though.
Do you
>> I'm saying once he graduates though, he
should just go ahead and find an actual
job.
>> Natural. Don't stick around home saying,
"Well, I could save up for a house
faster." And then all of a sudden, you
spent 500 bucks on Door Dash.
>> Yes. That's right. That's right. Yeah.
So, when you graduate, you need to move
out. That needs to be
>> create some problems for yourself cuz we
are wired to solve problems. And right
now, you just don't have many, which is
not a bad thing, but if you want to
accomplish your financial goals, you
kind of need to have some some uh you
know, some mojo. And right now, it's
hard to have that when mom's folding the
laundry.
>> Uh, Gabe, what kind of car do you have
right now?
Well, right now I don't have anything.
I'm driving my dad's for Door Dash.
>> Oh, whoa. How does he feel about that?
>> He feels fine about it because he does
it part time, too. So, you know.
>> Okay.
>> He doesn't really mind.
>> Okay. Well, I would make that a goal
then. I think that's a great You said
that, but I would re Yeah, I would
reiterate. Yeah. If you And if you saved
$1,000 a month, Gabe, I mean, you could
have a $6,000 car in six months. You
know what I mean? like it.
>> Do you have a high yield savings
account, Gabe?
>> Yeah, I do. Um I'm shopping around for
another one cuz I'm not a fan of the one
I have.
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then start to automate that thousand
bucks a month to just go straight from
checking into that high yield savings.
And like Rachel said, if you automate
that, you'll just pretend the thousand
bucks never existed. So, pretend you
make a,000 bucks a month and now we have
to work live off of that. That helped
retrain my brain as well.
>> Okay.
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>> Oh, yeah.
>> And it says debt is normal. Be weird.
You're not deeply in debt, Gabe. But at
least you kind of get that reminder.
Yeah. Every time,
>> especially as you enter adulthood, it's
so easy to be tempted to take out the
car loan, open the credit card, go into
debt,
>> take out the personal loan, whatever it
is. And so this will help you avoid that
temptation. But
>> yep, for sure.
>> This is very natural. You're 20. You're
not weird. You're just 20.
>> Yep. Just put some disciplines and new
habits in place. I think you're going to
be fine. But George Camel a spender.
>> What can I say? Left to my own devices
with Mama Camel cooking at home.
>> Unbelievable.
>> I'm spending every $16 an hour I make.
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