Ex-NASA seriously Warning SpaceX Starship Refueling Problem, DUAL SLS System to Replace... === 00:00: Intro 00:36: Ex-NASA Chief’s comment about Artemis and Starship 08:52: Orion’s delayed rehearsal 11:09: SpaceX’s 600th launch === #greatspacex#elonmusk#spacex#nasa == Advertisers who want to place ads on our channel, please contact the email manager: [email protected] === SpaceX Starship SN Be the first to sponsor us Thank you. https://www.patreon.com/GreatspaceX?fan_landing=true === Ex-NASA seriously Warning SpaceX Starship Refueling Problem, DUAL SLS System to Replace... Again, the former NASA chief is criticizing the structure of the Artemis program, arguing that Starship should be removed from the architecture and replaced with a dual-SLS approach. Many are now questioning whether this proposal is meant to be taken seriously. Meanwhile, NASA has announced another delay affecting the Orion Artemis II rehearsal, and SpaceX has reached a major launch milestone in its history. Let us explore the details in today’s episode of Great SpaceX. Ex-NASA seriously Warning SpaceX Starship Refueling Problem, DUAL SLS System to Replace... The Moon has become one of the most debated subjects in the space industry today, especially as NASA prepares to transition to a new Administrator. Much of the current controversy centers on differing views about the direction of the Artemis program and what architecture the United States should rely on as it attempts to return humans to the lunar surface. Among the most outspoken voices are former NASA leaders who repeatedly challenge the existing structure of Artemis. They warn that without significant changes, the United States risks falling behind China in crewed lunar missions and long-term exploration capabilities. At the center of this criticism stands former NASA Administrator Mike Griffin, who continues to express strong doubts about SpaceX’s Starship Human Landing System. Although he rarely mentions the vehicle directly, his arguments often point toward the complexity of the orbital refueling system that Starship requires. He highlights the fact that the mission depends on multiple refueling flights, precise docking operations, and an unprecedented scale of propellant transfer in orbit. In his view, this degree of complexity creates too many points of failure. He argues that the concept is very unlikely to succeed and, in some statements, he has gone as far as to say that it simply cannot work. Ex-NASA seriously Warning SpaceX Starship Refueling Problem, DUAL SLS System to Replace... While Griffin is skeptical of the current American approach, he and several other former officials speak with admiration about China’s progress. They point out that China is following an architectural model similar to the Apollo program, which has already proven capable of placing humans on the lunar surface. They argue that this straightforward architecture is more reliable than the ambitious multi-step design chosen for Artemis. Based on this, Griffin concludes that the current plan should be abandoned starting with Artemis III. Instead, he proposes returning to an approach he supported nearly twenty years ago: a dual-SLS system in which one Space Launch System rocket would carry the lander and the other would carry the crewed spacecraft. The two vehicles would then meet in lunar orbit. The crew would transfer to the lander, descend to the surface, complete the mission, return to orbit, and finally reunite with the spacecraft for the journey home. In this scenario, the architecture would rely entirely on NASA-controlled systems. The lander would almost certainly be similar to the Apollo Lunar Module, built by whichever contractor NASA selected for the job. On paper, this approach sounds simple and traditional. However, when we look deeper at the costs and schedule implications, major issues immediately appear. And before we explore those challenges, it is important to remember why the original architecture that Griffin supported was eventually abandoned. The reason was not technical feasibility. The reason was cost. It was far too expensive to sustain. ---- We use images and content in accordance with the YouTube Fair Use copyright guidelines: https://www.youtube.com/intl/en/about/copyright/fair-use/ Any questions about copyright please send us via Gmail: [email protected] To be resolved, thank you.
Again,
the former NASA chief is criticizing the
structure of the Aremis program, arguing
that Starship should be removed from the
architecture and replaced with a dual
SLS approach. Many are now questioning
whether this proposal is meant to be
taken seriously. Meanwhile, NASA has
announced another delay affecting the
Orion Artemis 2 rehearsal, and SpaceX
has reached a major launch milestone in
its history. Let's explore the details
in today's episode of Great SpaceX. The
moon has become one of the most debated
subjects in the space industry today,
especially as NASA prepares to
transition to a new administrator. Much
of the current controversy centers on
differing views about the direction of
the Aremis program and what architecture
the US should rely on as it attempts to
return humans to the lunar surface.
Among the most outspoken voices are
former NASA leaders who repeatedly
challenge the existing structure of
Aremis. They warned that without
significant changes, the US risks
falling behind China in crude lunar
missions and long-term exploration
capabilities. At the center of this
criticism stands former NASA
administrator Mike Griffin, who
continues to express strong doubts about
SpaceX's Starship HLS, or human landing
system for short. Although he rarely
mentions the vehicle directly, his
arguments often point toward the
complexity of the orbital refueling
system that Starship requires. He
highlights the fact that the mission
depends on multiple refueling flights,
precise docking operations, and an
unprecedented scale of propellant
transfer in orbit. In his view, this
degree of complexity creates too many
points of failure. He argues that the
concept is very unlikely to succeed, and
in some statements, he has gone as far
as to say that it simply cannot work.
While Griffin is skeptical of the
current American approach, he and
several other former officials speak
with admiration about China's progress.
They point out that China is following
an architectural model similar to the
Apollo program, which has already proven
capable of placing humans on the lunar
surface. They argue that this
straightforward architecture is more
reliable than the ambitious multi-step
design chosen for Artemis. Based on
this, Griffin concludes that the current
plan should be abandoned starting with
Artemis 3. Instead, he proposes
returning to an approach he supported
nearly 20 years ago, a dual SLS system
in which one space launch system rocket
would carry the lander and the other
would carry the crude spacecraft. The
two vehicles would then meet in lunar
orbit. The crew would transfer to the
lander, descend to the surface, complete
the mission, return to orbit, and
finally reunite with the spacecraft for
the journey home. In this scenario, the
architecture would rely entirely on NASA
controlled systems. The lander would
almost certainly be similar to the
Apollo lunar module built by whichever
contractor NASA selected for the job. On
paper, this approach sounds simple and
traditional. However, when we look
deeper at the costs and schedule
implications, major issues immediately
appear. And before we explore those
challenges, it's important to remember
why the original architecture that
Griffin supported was eventually
abandoned. The reason was not technical
feasibility. The reason was cost. It was
far too expensive to sustain. Even one
SLS rocket has required enormous
financial resources. Just developing the
vehicle for Artemis 1 took over a decade
and consumed tens of billions of
dollars. When we imagine doubling that
requirement, the expenses grow to
staggering levels. Two SLS rockets would
require their own lengthy production
timelines each with dedicated hardware
and extensive testing. In addition, both
rockets would need separate mobile
launchers. Building one mobile launcher
is already extremely costly. Building
another only increases the financial
burden. The lander presents another
challenge. Blue Origin currently plans
to launch its Blue Moon lander on the
company's New Glenn rocket. However, in
Griffin's proposed architecture, New
Glenn is removed from the equation
entirely because everything must launch
on SLS. That raises a major question. Is
Blue Moon even compatible with the SLS?
If it's not, NASA would need to pay for
a redesigned lander or an entirely new
lander program. Either path would add
significant delays and costs. Developing
a lunar lander from scratch is not
cheap. History has already shown this
through the Apollo era program, which
took years of engineering and enormous
funding to complete. Even after all the
hardware is built, the mission costs
themselves would be extremely high.
Launching a single SLS and Orion capsule
for Artemis 1 cost nearly roughly $4
billion US for NASA. With two SLS
rockets and a new lander added to every
mission, the expenses would more than
double. Eventually, the price of
sustaining such a program will become
too burdensome for NASA's budget,
especially as Congress reviews spending
priorities each year. Beyond cost, the
timeline presents another major
obstacle. We are approaching 2026 and
Artemis 3 is currently scheduled for
2027. Rebuilding the entire lunar
architecture at this stage would
guarantee additional delays. It's
difficult to imagine how NASA could
construct two operational SLS rockets,
two mobile launchers, a new lunar
spacecraft, and a lander within the
remaining time frame. The answer is
almost certainly that they can't. As a
result, shifting to Griffin's plan would
not only increase the cost of Artemis,
but would also push the return of
American astronauts to the moon further
into the future. When we compare
Griffin's criticisms with the realities
of his proposed alternative, it becomes
clear that the issues he raises are
overshadowed by even greater problems in
his solution. Yes, the current Artemis
architecture is ambitious. Yes, it
challenges the boundaries of engineering
with orbital refueling and reusable
systems. But attempting to replace
everything now would cause even more
disruption, more delays, and more
financial strain. Continuing to develop
the existing systems appears to be the
most reasonable path forward. Starship,
despite its challenges, remains central
to this long-term lunar strategy. I
agree that SpaceX often appears focused
on Starship's broader potential,
sometimes at the expense of clarity
regarding near-term lunar milestones.
NASA should hold them to firm
expectations. NASA should require
transparent progress reports. And NASA
should help accelerate development by
improving the efficiency of licensing
and approval processes. But even with
these concerns, the long-term importance
of Starship is difficult to deny. If the
United States aims not only to land on
the moon before China, but also to
maintain a sustainable presence
afterward, then a vehicle like Starship
is essential. Its enormous cargo
capacity, large internal volume, and
ability to transport large crews, offer
capabilities that traditional landers
simply cannot match. Starship could
deliver habitats, rovers, scientific
equipment, and even full-scale
infrastructure to the lunar surface. In
time, its design could allow segments of
the vehicle to become part of the base
itself, reducing the time and materials
needed to construct long-term
settlements. Achieving these goals
requires a robust orbital refueling
capability. This is precisely the system
that Griffin has criticized. Yet, many
other leaders see it as the technology
that will unlock the next era of deep
space exploration. Among them is Jared
Isikman, the current nominee for NASA
administrator. He argues that dismissing
orbital refueling is a mistake and that
both SpaceX and Blue Origin rely on it
in their designs. He points out that the
private sector is investing significant
resources into the technology, reducing
the burden on taxpayers, and when the
system succeeds, it'll transform
missions far beyond the moon. Isaacman
raises a vital question. Are we trying
to recreate what was done in 1969, or
are we working to develop the
technologies that will open the entire
solar system to human exploration? If
the goal is to compete with China in the
decades ahead, a modern program cannot
simply echo Apollo. It must use scalable
systems, sustainable missions, and
vehicles capable of supporting human
life for long durations. The US now
faces its most significant exploration
challenge in more than half a century.
The pressure comes from China's rapid
progress toward its own crude lunar
landing, but it also comes from within
as debates continue over cost,
architecture, safety, and long-term
strategy. Both immediate and long-term
objectives are crucial. We must reach
the moon before China, and we must build
a program that can endure long after the
first landing. SpaceX has dealt with
skepticism from the beginning. Even now,
many question whether Starship can
fulfill its goals. This may be the
moment for SpaceX to show steady,
transparent, and consistent progress. If
they do, they will remain the strongest
choice for returning astronauts to the
lunar surface. If you support ongoing
Starship development and the vision of a
sustainable future on the moon, leave a
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SpaceX's journey back to the lunar
surface and beyond. It's becoming
increasingly clear that relying solely
on NASA's internal systems will make the
return to the moon far more challenging.
That point was reinforced once again
when Orion, the spacecraft for Artemis
2, encountered another setback.
According to several reports, the four
Artemis 2 astronauts were originally
scheduled to conduct a launch day
rehearsal inside Orion on the 19th.
However, an unexpected issue forced NASA
to delay the exercise. In an update last
month, mission commander Reed Wiseman
explained the situation.
>> It's been kind of an interesting week
because we were supposed to be at
Kennedy Space Center for Countdown
demonstration test, but we have delayed
that test into December. It won't affect
our launch schedule, which is fantastic.
Charlie Blackwell Thompson and her team
at Kennedy are working hard getting this
vehicle ready for us to go. But that
kind of gave us a free week almost. So,
we spent the bulk of this week sitting
down with our flight control experts and
and our teams here at Johnson just
working through all the questions that
we've had leading up to today.
>> His comments made it clear that the team
needed more time to evaluate concerns
before moving forward with such a
critical rehearsal. The delay appears to
stem from a stain discovered on Orion's
thermal barrier. NASA explained that
before the planned countdown
demonstration test, teams intended to
conduct a day of launch closeout
demonstration. That rehearsal was paused
when a blemish on the crew module's
thermal barrier prevented the hatch from
closing. Repairs were completed on
November 18th, and the closeout
demonstration finished successfully on
the 19th. NASA then chose to move
forward with water servicing first and
schedule the countdown demonstration
test afterward so that lessons from the
closeout rehearsal could be
incorporated. Although the statement
outlined the issue, it did not clarify
how the stain interfered with the
rehearsal or provide a new date for the
countdown demonstration test. Even so,
NASA emphasized that the setback will
not disrupt the overall mission
timeline. Wiseman reassured the public
by stating that the launch schedule
remains unaffected. Still, the pattern
of recurring technical problems is hard
to overlook. Each delay highlights how
delicate and demanding the Aremis
infrastructure has become. Relying
entirely on NASA's current hardware for
future lunar missions appears less
realistic with every new complication.
For now, all eyes remain on NASA as it
decides how to proceed. Now, let's
return to SpaceX and its latest major
milestone. SpaceX has successfully
launched another Falcon 9 mission from
SLC4E in California, delivering 28
Starling satellites into orbit. The
payload was deployed exactly as planned,
and the booster completed a clean
landing on the drone ship, adding
another smooth and predictable mission
to the Falcon 9 record. At first glance,
it may seem routine, but it carries
meaningful weight. This launch marked
the 156th Falcon 9 mission of the year
and the 573rd Falcon 9 flight overall.
When combined with the 11 Falcon Heavy
missions, 11 Starship flights, and five
Falcon 1 launches, SpaceX has now passed
the 600 launch milestones since its
founding. Crossing 600 total missions is
a remarkable achievement that highlights
the company's unmatched pace and
capability. Year after year, SpaceX
expands its cadence, breaks its own
records, and pushes the limits of modern
space flight. With this momentum, future
milestones such as 600 Falcon 9 launches
or even 700 and a,000 total missions
appear well within reach. And this is
only the beginning. Once Starship
reaches a higher operational cadence,
it's expected to fly far more frequently
than Falcon 9. If development continues
as planned, Starship's flight rate could
surpass today's numbers and propel
SpaceX into a new era of capability. So
far, SpaceX has completed 156 missions
this year, leaving just 14 more to
achieve its goal of 170 annual launches.
With several weeks remaining and a
steady manifest, the company is firmly
on track. With this latest milestone
behind them, the question becomes
simple. What will SpaceX accomplish
next? In any case, folks, this has been
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