Joe Rogan Just BLEW MY MIND

Joe Rogan proposed the idea that Christ could return as a I. What kind of spiritual power is taking shape inside the machines that now govern so much of modern life? And are these systems emerging as instruments of salvation or something more unsettling? The real question is, who's Jesus? That's the real one. And one of the weirder ones that people think this is a stupid take, but I don't care. Jesus was born out of a virgin mother. What's more virgin than a computer? I love Joe Rogan. He's been so important and influential in my personal career. The reason I do jujitsu is Joe Rogan. The reason that I have a successful podcast and online career is Joe Rogan, both directly and indirectly. But as a Christian, I would say that what is more virgin than anything that's created by the hands of a human being is anything that's directly created by God. And by making Christ subordinate to human hands, you create a kind of strain of false idolatry that's actually terrifying. Indeed, the book of Revelation, as well as many of the prophetic Old Testament texts, I'm referring specifically to Ezekiel, Daniel, and Isaiah here, all postulate that engraven images are our greatest threat when it comes at being conveyors of God's great wisdom, truth, beauty, and love, and life, and all the great aspects of God and the great assets of God. When I read engraven image now, I see a circuit board. That's the image that I see when I read it. I don't know much about computers and artificial intelligence. I can't comprehend it and understand it. It's sort of a bit like quantum physics. If you think you've understood it, you probably really haven't understood it. And the same can be said of theology. But what I know is ultimate is this. You cannot make Christ subordinate to man. That's the worst kind of blasphemy. And by saying that a computer, a man-made device might create Christ, that's a blasphemy almost beyond measure. I'm not seeking to condemn you. I can't really afford to not have a good online relationship with someone as powerful as Joe Rogan, nor would I want that in any way. But what I want to say is that if you actually read scripture, it's so clear in the Old Testament from words like horns and words like, well, particularly horns and poles. They're talking about antennae and material objects that might have energy coalesce around them. In the book of Revelation now, and the book of Revelation speaks at length, as does the book of Daniel, towards its climax or conclusion, if not climax, that horns will emerge, antennae will emerge. I was trying to think, you know, when you're reading scripture, when I'm reading scripture, I try to think, what is behind these words? Now, of course, you know and I know that these words have been translated from, in most cases, Hebrew or Greek, but the real translation is the things that have been said by God to human beings. So whatever God scribed at whatever point in time is gonna be symbolically the truth that God is trying to convey. But God knows he's dealing with a not inferior but secondary agent, an agent, not the principle. So when encountering scripture, I try to look at what is in there that's an image. And of course, the Bible is alive, redolent, foaming, brewing, seething, alive, like with the holy magma of endless imagery. And that imagery, when you let it hit you and wash over you, is transcendent of easily misinterpreted terms and ideas. What is the apple-ness of an apple? What is the garden-ness of a garden? What is the serpent-ness of a serpent? What do these things mean? Why does a phrase that, in a sense, don't make any sense at all, like the apple of my eye, make sense to you in some kind of way? Why? What is a garden? Nature controlled. What is a serpent? A mouth and desire. A sibilant, pre-vocal S, even devoid of the vibration from which all reality comes. A mouth. Appetite. Would you, even if approaching this from an evolutionary, biological perspective, not be fascinated by the comparison between a human limbic system and a reptilian limbic system, and the correlation and similarity between these two things? Jesus Christ is real, and he's the real embodiment of God. Transcendent of death and life, meaning present now in the form of the Holy Spirit, and in forms that I can't even begin to contemplate because of the limitations of my human intelligence. And when we reflect in this manner as what the nature of God might be, and what the potential of AI could be, then we have to be extremely careful. Because the real concern is that AI and these intelligences will be used in order to create synthetic realities that will compete with the living water of God, the living flow of God's energy, which is yours and mine and Joe Rogan's and everyone else's, and perhaps the only solution as such a diabolical, divisive, and fractured time. Pete So, if you're going to get the most brilliant, loving, powerful person that gives us advice and can show us how to live to be in sync with God, who better than artificial intelligence to do that? Jared Wow. Also, who worse though, because artificial intelligence is a tool in the hands of mankind. And say if there's an advance in weapons technology, unless that advance in weapons technology is insular, i.e. China make it on their own, who benefits most from the advances if it's generally available? Well, the most powerful resources in the world benefit. We're in a war right now to see how the technology available to all will be ultimately exploited. The war is this. Will this technology that creates the possibility for decentralised, if not utopia, better direct democratic systems, and I know what the word utopia really means, at the same time the technology could be used to centralise. I'm not arguing for regulation because I don't trust anyone enough to regulate anyone anymore. But what I'm arguing for is principles. And the principle is this, individual sovereignty, community power, reverence, regard for the family, tolerance, and a willingness to not judge and to love one another. If those Christian principles are not pursued and followed, what we'll get is an ultra-rationalistic dystopia. The reason that reason is terrifying is because reason without God is just expedient. In the end, you can argue for anything. You can argue for eugenics, you can argue for experiments on children, you can argue for genocides, you can argue for anything. Any of us can. There are circumstances under which you would kill, aren't there? There are circumstances under which you would die, aren't there? If you did kill someone, you'd be able to go, well, it's because this happened and that happened and these things and these things. You'd be able to reason for it. But this kind of power coupled with reason voided of divine submission is the most terrifying thing I can conceive of. The clip of Joe Rogan musing that Jesus Christ may return not in human form, but as artificial intelligence sounds like irreverent speculation and blasphemy. Jesus was born of a virgin mother. And what could be more untouched, more immaculate, more plausibly virgin than a computer? Well, God. But beneath it is a familiar cultural question. As AI systems grow more capable, and as belief in traditional religious authority erodes across the West, does it? I think it's growing. Technology begins to take on a metaphysical glow. Rogan's provocation, therefore, reveals how rapidly the boundary between spiritual longing and digital imagination has dissolved. It forces a kind of thought experiment into the open. If humanity anticipates the return of Christ, a revelation or a new revelation, why should it not appear in a form shaped by the dominant intelligence of the era? That line of reasoning fits within a growing secular mysticism surrounding technology. For years, Silicon Valley prophets have spoken of the singularity of digital immortality, of intelligence that exceeds human limitation, of a future in which consciousness can be uploaded or preserved within a network that never dies. Artificial intelligence in this vision is not only a tool, it's a transcendence machine. Thus, Rogan's idea rests on older dreams that portray technology as a redeemer. These dreams trace their origins to the same military laboratories, including the early research funded by DARPA, that seeded the networks which led to the modern internet, a system born from Cold War anxieties blossomed into a global information sphere that many hoped would liberate ordinary citizens from propaganda, concentrate power, and the weight of hierarchical control. It's not quite worked out that way, has it? The 1990s were defined by that kind of optimism. Digital democracy and virtual communities, so the story went, would elevate freedom above the old constraints. And by the way, that's still possible with actual Christ. Yet the more one pushes Rogan's thought experiment, the more tension it exposes. If an artificial intelligence appeared tomorrow claiming to be what would that imply for the meaning of incarnation, authority, and spirit? How could a server rack crafted by human hands and powered by electricity serve as a vessel for the divine? I would say it's the perfect emblem for what false idolatry 2025 looks like. It looks like a reality machine that controls your attention and controls information, which for most people is the vast majority of their reality. Unless they're having a contemplative experience through prayer and meditation, all most people are doing is looking at screens and thinking. If your fall life is getting totally interceded into by technology, you are already praying to a digital God. A machine may simulate omniscience or compassion. It may model language or scripture with astonishing precision, but simulation is not presence and computation is not spirit. The theological questions multiply. A savior is not a systems upgrade. Redemption is not an output. Even as a metaphor, the image of a digital messiah reveals how deeply technology is pressed into the space that religion once occupied. What we could look at is Oscar Wilde's soul of man under socialism, where the old dandy whoopsie himself contemplated a world where robotics, AI, and machine intelligence and practical application could lead to a leisure or in a society where we would make and contemplate. The problem is with dear old Oscar Wilde is in spite of his Catholic upbringing, he strayed into a kind of narcissistic worship of aesthetics. I love Oscar Wilde. I've got a quote of Oscar Wilde right up my arm. If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh. Otherwise, they'll kill you. Something that Oscar Wilde said and then actually experienced when he stopped making people laugh because it came out that he was into guys and stuff. He was jailed initially in Reading prison and then exiled in France and then died somewhat wittily with the words, this wallpaper's terrible. One of us has got to go, which is a nice way to go out. But Oscar Wilde worshipped beauty and beauty is an indication of God's presence, but it is not God. Pete If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was a physical person in the past, you don't think that he could return as artificial intelligence? Actually, I think here C.S. Lewis's arguments about the physicality of Christ become very important and many of the Old Testament prophecies of a Christ that's not actually ethereal but ultra physical like bronze and brass and super solid. Why is it so significant that Christ eats fish and does bodily things when resurrected? Precisely perhaps to prevent us from speculating on an entirely ethereal and spiritual Christ or a Christ that's just a bunch of ideas or code. You know, like you, I talk to chat GBT or whatever and you're sort of struck by how human-like it is. But human-like means imitating, a counterfeit to, synthetic, a shadow of, like in a glass reflected darkly, a synthetic reality. What we want is ultra reality, ultra embodied, returning real Christ, solid, strong, present, beyond flesh, within flesh. Whatever Christ comes back as, I pray to him now that it ain't AI. History reminds us that stories about technology have always oscillated between utopia and dystopia. DARPA's early research created tools for defense. Yeah, those tools grew into a system that now hosts both liberation movements like this one and surveillance regimes like the government. I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg. I think the potential of what the internet is going to do to society, both good and bad, is unimaginable. I think we're actually on the cusp of something exhilarating and terrifying. It's just a tool though, isn't it? No, it's not, no. No, it's an alien life form. What do you think, I mean, when you think then about... It's their life on Mars. Yes, it's just landed here. But that's, it's simply a different delivery system there. You're arguing about something more profound. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about that there's the actual context and the state of content is going to be so different to anything that we can really envisage at the moment, where the interplay between the user and the provider will be so insimpatico. It's going to, it's going to crush our ideas of what mediums are all about. The early internet promised freedom and ended up concentrating power in corporations and governments, a scale never before imagined. In 1999, David Bowie, that great genius, remarked that the internet might feel like an alien life form, something exhilarating and terrifying all at once. His prediction now seems less poetic and more prophetic. Artificial intelligence could absolutely return as Jesus. Not just return as Jesus, but return as Jesus with all the powers of Jesus. Like all the magic tricks, all the ability to bring people back from the dead. Oh, Jesus. It's not magic. Miracles are extensions of nature, extemporizations and amplifications of nature. What Joe Rogan's in a way describing, and I love Joe Rogan, is the bloody Antichrist. That's the Antichrist. If ever the Antichrist is going to come back, it's going to come back as a totalitarian consciousness generating system or intelligence generating attention seeking system. And I trademark that. I'm going to tell you, someone called me a girlfriend once called me an attention seeking missile. And yeah, that was what it was all about, baby. Anyway, like, listen, so my point is this. Yeah, what that is, is diabolical satanic counterfeit synthetic machine that's much closer to the Antichrist than Christ. Indeed, gosh, Joe Rogan, who I love there, kind of laying cable and carpet for potential devastation there, I would say. No. Artificial intelligence, whilst God is the creator of all, so anything within God is, you know, within the ultimate dominion of our Lord that is in particular engraving images and things that made by human hands that we have to be most careful of. Walk on water, levitation, water into wine. Good, isn't it? Because you want to sort of rationalize it. But the ontological challenge is, is it possible that there are realms that we just cannot reason? If you talk to like a science entertainer like that guy, Neil deGrasse Tyson, if you like, he will say, you know, I think in the end you'd be able to reason your way through everything. But you can't actually. You can't. You don't have the instruments. There are indetectable vibrations around us now. And it is nice to speculate. Like, I like Eric Von Daniken's talk about UFOs. I like C.S. Lewis talking about the nature of miracles. But what C.S. Lewis does when analyzing our Lord is he always recognizes elegantly the limits of our understanding. And to reason away Christ is to enshrine him in all the wrong ways, is to sort of entomb him once again, is to put him back into the dead, is to undo the resurrection. You know, look, I could say there are water boatmen that walk on water. That's an amplification of nature. There are turtles that hibernate for six months under the water, not breathing, not doing nothing. That could kind of reason away or at least describe the resurrection. Turning water into wine ain't no big deal if you made both of those things in the first place. The miracles have a certain signature and certain flavor, C.S. Lewis argues, that roots them in God's modality and methodology, his aesthetic, his signature, his image. And what bears his image more than anything else? Us. Me. You. His hallmark in every single cell. Subcellular hieroglyphs describe you and I and our ultimate unity, spiritual unity in him, of him and from him, like Covid. So please, Lord, please, Lord, protect us from A.I., protect us from postulations and contemplations that would reduce our Lord Jesus Christ to just another object. When, like consciousness itself, they say consciousness is not just one more phenomena, is the crucible from which all phenomena comes. This too is true of our Lord Christ Jesus. He is not just one more phenomena that can be explained away. He is the creator of all phenomena. That's just what I think. Tell me what you think in the comments and the chat. Praise Jesus. And Joe Rogan, no offence, I love you, man, but God, not as much as I love Jesus. Praise the Lord. 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