There are lots of hurdles to getting fit and staying fit.
One of the biggest ones is travel,
especially those of you that work,
that require a lot of travel.
The question is, how do I stay in shape or even more?
How do I make progress while traveling
with my fitness and nutrition?
That's what we're gonna talk about today.
New year, new travel season.
I would say this is probably one of the more common things
that you would have to prepare for as a trainer
because obviously a lot of clients that train with you
tend to be affluent, fly for business a lot,
or be just vacation occasionally.
And so, you know, nothing like disrupting a great routine
and rhythm that you just got your client in
after they hired you and here comes a vacation
or here comes a business trip and to derail them.
And so coming up with a plan and a strategy
was something I'm, obviously as a young trainer,
made the mistake of like,
oh, we'll figure it out when you get back.
That was not a good idea.
Or I'll coach you from afar.
Really planning it out and simplifying the hell out of it.
Yes, totally.
And I think that we, you know,
cause we all, our careers were built in Silicon Valley.
And so we had a significant portion of our clients
traveled a lot.
Probably more than most, I would say,
I think you're right, Adam,
you know, trainers typically have affluent clients,
but when, you know, Silicon Valley,
like a significant percentage of people
that work here travel.
And so this was a problem to figure out.
Not only that, but that's a good point.
And so, I mean, most of my clients traveled.
I know.
Like regularly.
And like other clients, it took me a while
before I actually distilled this down
to a handful of big rocks.
I think I overcomplicated this.
So first, first mistake was this was,
oh, we'll figure it out when you get back.
That was a big mistake.
Second mistake was, okay,
I need to like write up this like serious plan
where, which most of them would have not,
they're busy, they're work,
they're in meetings or they're on vacation.
And so it took a while before I started to realize like,
okay, it's important that I give them a strategy
to be successful while they travel,
whether it be business or on vacation,
but I can't overcomplicate it or overdo it
because then I'm setting them up for failure.
And so what I love about this episode
or these points we're going to make
is I really think we distill it down
to a handful of things that's like,
just focus on this while you're traveling
and we can get more granular when you're here.
Yeah.
And I think the important to start out with,
we really have to understand the context
of what's important here.
And it's, there's a couple of things
that you need to focus on.
If travel is a relatively regular part of your life
and you're trying to get fit
or maintain a level of fitness.
And one is you don't want to lose momentum.
So this is the biggest problem.
And the biggest challenge,
if you're somebody that travels every month
or every other month, which is not that uncommon,
again, especially in a place like Silicon Valley,
is, you know, you get in this rhythm
and then it breaks the rhythm
and then getting back into the room,
it just feels so difficult.
So how do we maintain a certain level
of consistency and momentum
so it doesn't turn into this on, off, on, off,
and then eventually just off, right?
The second thing is if you're traveling,
you can use fitness and nutrition
in a way to improve the experience of your travel.
So if you're working
and you're having meetings or presentations,
this should improve your performance.
It should not take away from your performance.
If you're traveling for work, that's your number one.
Like I'm not with my family, I'm working, I do this thing.
I'm not going to do this workout
and I'm not going to bring my meals with me.
It's only going to make what I'm trying to do
so much more difficult.
So it also has to improve
or add to what you're traveling for in the first place.
And when you combine those together,
you come up with a really successful strategy.
So the first thing is this.
I talked about momentum
and I talked about improving your productivity
or your performance while you travel.
And the way I approached this early on was totally wrong.
The way I approached it was,
okay, you're gone for a week.
We're going to pick two days to do this full-on workout.
And that never worked.
It never worked.
So you got to take an hour out of your day,
you got to go to the gym, you got to do your thing.
And it just was inconvenient.
It didn't add to the performance at work.
Only my most hardcore dedicated clients would keep this up.
It almost always was a fail.
B, go ahead.
Oh, I made the mistake earlier too.
I was trying to get so specific.
So I would research ahead of time
what they had in the gym, at the hotel,
or the surrounding area to see if we could get them a pass
to go to the gym.
And it's just like-
Too much.
Yeah, all these variables make it so,
when they're in their meeting
and then they have to go from one place
and now they want to meet for lunch
and then they want to go over here.
It just never would line up
and I just set them up for failure.
That's it.
So here's what worked.
And this was very effective.
And it was, you're going to do a short workout every morning.
Every morning, you're going to spend 15 to 20 minutes
doing a very short workout.
And if you miss one or two, it's not a big deal.
And actually what happened with my clients
is they actually appreciated this
because they found that they were more energetic,
more productive anyway.
And it's-
Cognitive benefits to that.
Huge cognitive.
There's a lot, yeah.
It's phenomenal.
And so there's a few ways that we would do this.
One, and this is the most obvious, is, you know, okay,
well, if you could pick a hotel that has a gym,
let's start there.
Sometimes they don't have this option.
Sometimes the hotel they're staying at
or where they're staying is not dictated by them.
But if it was, let's find one with a gym
that makes it really convenient.
And if not, a suspension trainer and bands.
That's it.
Very easy to take with you.
It's controllable.
I think that's really what I learned
was just like the more you can go in
with the controllables already thought of ahead of time
and the simplicity of it,
way more attainable to, you know, release them
and know they're going to get accomplished.
Well, I also want you,
let's address the desired outcome
of this period of time too.
This is not when I'm trying to make huge leaps
in progress with my client.
I just don't want to regress.
That's right.
And I care more, especially if it's a business trip,
I care more about the cognitive benefits.
So really just some sort of movement.
We've talked about ad nauseum,
the study that supports, you know,
it takes one seventh the volume of training
to hold and maintain the muscle that you built.
So in a one week vacation or a three day business trip,
we're not going to lose all your muscle.
And so really what I'm looking at
is like some sort of stimulation
so that we don't go backwards.
And I care more about the cognitive benefits
and just movement overall.
And so making it so easy,
like bands or suspension trainer,
or like a mass 15 routine that they can do in a gym hotel
is such a superior way to go about this
versus Justin's point about organizing
some one day pass at a big commercial gym
they have to go to.
And it's not to say that there's somebody who's listening
that doesn't love to do that.
Like, that's your jam and that works for you.
And I absolutely had a-
You need this option, one percenter.
Yeah, I absolutely had a client or two that was like that.
And so I know they exist,
but I know I made the mistake as a trainer
and I failed my clients a lot of times
over-complicating this process
versus really distilling it down.
Okay, what is our desired outcome?
Our desired outcome is that
we don't regress this great progress we made.
Okay, well, what does that take then?
It doesn't take a lot of training
and training intensity and volume.
It takes just a little bit of stimulation
and some good choices, food, and some movement,
and we're going to be successful here.
I would tell my clients just like this, very basic.
I'd say, you're going to do a push,
you're going to do a pull,
and you're going to do some type of a squat.
And a squat could be a lunge.
It could be a traditional squat.
It could be some type of a deadlift.
Covers the bases.
It could be a push, could be a push-up,
an overhead press of some sort.
A pull could be some kind of a row
or some pull down with a band.
That's it, three exercises.
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And there's another part to this
that I found to be extremely valuable.
When clients did this,
they felt so good doing this first thing in the morning,
then going to work and doing the meeting,
that they actually developed a great relationship
with this to where they looked forward to it.
And that's everything, right?
If this becomes, I mean, just to put it differently,
if this is something you look forward to doing,
you're going to do it.
The way to do that is to make it benefit
what you're there to do in the first place.
Three exercises, that's it.
Two or three exercises every morning that you're there
with a suspension trainer or bands or the hotel gym,
and you're done.
You're looking at 15 to 20 minutes,
30 minutes if it's the hotel gym,
because you got to walk to it and walk back.
And you're finished and you get your day started
and you're ready to go.
You're not going to lose any progress.
You're going to feel good.
You're going to be moving.
You're more productive anyway.
It's great.
And by the way, you can't push for progress and gains
all the time, even if you don't travel.
So this is the other thing.
People are always like,
oh, well, I'm not going to push to make progress.
Even if you didn't travel,
we're not always trying to push for progress.
You can't do that.
Your body requires long periods of time
where you're kind of maintaining
with these short sprints of progress anyway.
This just so happens.
It'll fall right into the, hey, I'm maintaining.
Well, I think this attitude, this setup,
sets you up for the next thing on your list,
which is the walk after every meal.
And I find that the client that gets up
and just does the two exercises kicks starts their day.
And then they're more likely to be active
and make those choices versus the client who,
you know, slap in that day
or decides they're not going to do anything,
or it's an all or nothing.
Either I get to the gym and I do that hour hard workout,
or I don't.
And then if I don't,
I end up not being active throughout the rest of the day.
And so I've found just getting them,
setting the bar low where it's just like,
hey, here's the two movements we're going to do,
either in your hotel room or with the bands,
or if they actually have a, you know,
a little gym workout that we can go down and do.
And then I find that the rest of the day,
they're already more active.
That's right.
So again, you just go for a short walk after your meals
and when you have breaks.
And I, you know, I got a great story around this.
I had a client that would travel
and part of his travel included, you know,
or involved creating relationships
or networking.
And he actually found this to be extremely valuable
for that.
So they would have their, you know,
their lunch or whatever with the, you know,
with the company.
And then he would take some as,
hey, you want to go for a walk with me?
And they would have like a little meeting, you know,
a 10 minute walk around the hotel.
But you know, you don't have to go outside.
Outside's great,
but sometimes you're in a place
where maybe it's snowing and raining or whatever.
You go walk around in the convention center
or the hotel, take someone with you.
It's 10 minutes, by the way,
we're not talking about a 35 minute walk.
You do a 10 minute walk after your meals
or during a break.
Now you've added over the, you know,
throughout the day, 20 to 30 minutes worth of walking.
This keeps you moving, keeps you productive.
It feels good.
And you could do the networking.
You could do meetings this way.
It's extremely beneficial.
Yeah, all this is the antidote to this.
It's so sedentary when you're traveling
just to get there,
being in the airplane and then decompressing from that,
being in the hotel.
So yeah, I think the opportunity you can to really,
you know, walk and get some steps in is great.
You know, if you're bringing your suspension,
if you're training your bands,
one other thing you can bring is a protein powder.
Very easy to pack, bring with a shaker cup.
This is a very easy substitute for a meal
or to hit your protein targets.
And oftentimes, in my experience,
my clients would do this for breakfast.
So breakfast was typically not the meal
where the company would do the thing.
It was typically lunch.
Lunch was the meal when they're meeting with people
and they're doing something together.
Breakfast was kind of on their own
and I'd have them bring a shake.
And so they could have their 40, 50 grams
of protein in the morning.
It's very, you know, it's a little bit of food
or it's barely any food.
They have lots of energy to hit their protein targets.
I think this is a very valuable thing to travel with,
very easy to travel with.
If you, okay, so I have several pieces of luggage
that I use to travel.
One's like smaller luggage when I'm going somewhere short.
I have a bigger one than for when I'm long travel.
If you go in there right now in my room,
you will find at the bottoms of those bags
and travel cases, I have Creatures of Habit
or a protein oatmeal.
And it's just, I've trained myself
to always have four or five that I just throw.
And I just, I leave it, leave them in there.
Just leave them in there until they go low
and then I throw more in there and I keep it in there
for this exact reason because it's something so quick
that I can mix up and I can drink
or in this case, eat really quick.
And this is where I find shakes, bars,
stuff like this really beneficial.
Obviously on the show, we talk so much
about promoting whole foods and that's the goal.
When you're traveling and you're on the go,
having this stuff ready for you makes it a lot easier
for you to not make that choice to go in
and get the high calorie Starbucks drink
or to drive through and go somewhere fast food.
And so this is where I'm very pro utilizing shakes
or protein oatmeal or things like that
that's easy, accessible for the client.
Totally, and then when you do eat food,
seek out the protein and eat it first.
Almost every meal will allow for this.
So you may be getting food presented to you guys.
You're in this big meeting, here's the lunch.
Seek out the proteins, eat that, eat it first.
Aim to hit your body weight in grams of protein for the day.
So if you know that requires 50 grams of protein,
eyeball it, eat it first.
Now the data on this is, I mean,
we talk about this on the podcast all the time,
but when you eat your body weight in grams of protein,
it reduces the amount of total calories that you eat.
It's very satiety producing.
Protein itself, it's great for muscle.
It's also great for fat loss.
So in studies where their calories are controlled,
one's high protein, one's moderate or low protein,
the high protein diets tend to outperform the other ones.
So seek out that protein.
So when you're at your lunch and you see the salad bar
and there's a chicken and then,
oh, there's some bread over there,
I'm gonna get the protein first, I'm gonna eat that.
I'm gonna stick to that.
And then if I want some more food afterwards, I'll eat it.
This is just, by the way,
this is just good advice across the board
anytime you eat out.
Anytime you eat out, seek out the protein, eat it first,
aim for a large serving of it, and you would be shocked.
People who've never done this before,
it is remarkable how well this controls overall food intake.
It's extremely effective.
So my generic rule was eating out
for like breakfast and lunch,
you double the meat no matter what.
If you're at a restaurant, like say like a steakhouse,
you can order like the regular steak.
But most places, this is the place that I think
the clients have to be the most careful with
is that most breakfast and lunch in particular,
some dinners, but mostly breakfast and lunch,
servings of protein is only like four ounces.
So the rule was double meat, eat your veggies first,
I'm not managing the rest for that.
As long as you did that at every meal.
Double the meat, eat your veggies first,
I'm not worried about the other stuff,
and just make sure that every meal that you're doing that,
they hit their protein intake,
they get full enough off of that,
even if they had a little bit of chips or crackers
or bread or a drink or whatever afterwards.
They got satiated enough from just eating the high protein.
One, they had enough protein to keep the lean body mass
that we had built.
Two, it suppressed the appetite enough
that when they got done with this trip,
we didn't lose any of our gains that we worked so hard for.
And then if there are no good options,
unless you have a history of eating disorder,
unless you're underweight, fast.
If there's no good options, just don't eat.
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It really isn't a big deal.
And here's what you may find, and this is what I find,
at least in the short term.
If I'm traveling for work, it's typically a few days.
For most people, it's no longer than a week.
Fasting here and there in short periods of time,
you tend to get improvement in focus
and improvement in your ability to pay attention.
You tend to have better cognitive performance.
The data pretty much supports this.
Again, there are cases where this may not be the case.
But for many people, you tend to feel better.
So I'll give an example.
If I went to a place that served, let's say breakfast.
Say I'm going to a convention
and there's a big meeting of speakers.
Sometimes they go speak at an event.
So they're like, okay, come up.
We're all gonna have breakfast together before the event.
It's all pancakes.
And sometimes they provide food.
And what is it?
It's a bunch of muffins and bagels and stuff like that.
I'm gonna skip.
There's really nothing here for me to eat.
I'm just gonna fast and I'm gonna be okay.
And I feel better.
Versus when I eat the muffins and I eat the bread,
then I feel lethargic the rest of the day.
So there's no good options, just fast.
Not a big deal.
It's so funny.
I didn't know this is what you meant when you put fast.
I went through, it went through my head
is what has happened to me the last couple of times
I've traveled is most places now,
even if they don't serve food
or that's all they have is like this bread.
You could DoorDash to the hotel.
Yes, yes.
So I thought you meant by fast,
they'd be like fast food to get delivered to you.
And every city that at least that I've gone to so far.
You know, this is a new thing
because when I was training clients, they didn't have them.
No.
So this has now become this new option
where I've been at hotels or these inns
where they don't have any food or it's just like a bar
and it's like drinks or it's just like muffin type stuff.
And I'm like, okay.
I just pull up and then DoorDash pulls what's near me.
And then on there, there's always one or two options
where I can get a double serving of meat.
And we've talked about some of the most popular places
online that have those things.
And then I just have it delivered to the hotel
and I eat it like that.
That's what I do now.
That's so funny.
You know what it is, Adam?
I was thinking of when I used to train clients
and when I was training clients 15 years ago,
that wasn't an option.
Yeah.
Now it's an option.
That's what I do.
So when I travel for MindPump,
if there are no good options, I DoorDash.
Because sometimes hotels don't even have great options,
but there's always restaurants around.
They'll deliver it to the front desk,
go downstairs and pick it up.
Yeah, so it wasn't until one of our trips
where we're traveling to do interviews and stuff
and I saw somebody else do it.
I went, oh my God, I don't know.
Yeah, at home, I knew that I was obviously used to that.
I'm like, I didn't even think that.
I do it every time.
Yeah, that's now become the thing.
Where even if like the place doesn't have,
like it could even have food.
If it does have options I like,
I'm just like, let me see what I can get
just brought to me from right here.
And then I can be a little pickier about what I want
and then have it delivered.
And so, yeah, really we overcomplicate this a lot
and clients used to too.
And I'm just as guilty as a trainer
of overcomplicating this with macros and calories
and stuff like that.
It's like, man, if I can get my client
to just move and be active during this trip
that they're on, be aware of that.
They've either been sitting on a plane
for a really long time
or that they can easily just kind of lounge around,
like getting them to be active and move.
If I can get them to do just a couple exercises
to start their day every single morning.
And then if I could just get them to,
like, I don't want to tell my client
who's going to Hawaii and hasn't been there in 10 years,
like you can't have any of these foods.
Use all your macro.
It's just like, enjoy yourself, but eat the protein first.
Like just do that first for me and then do that thing.
It just makes a huge difference
on the success rate of that trip.
And when they come back,
it's not like I'm having to unwind all this damage,
the muscle that we've lost, the body fat that we've put on.
They've remained active.
They've maintained where we're at.
And it's just a much better strategy.
Yeah, which actually brings us to the last point,
which is focus on what's important for your travel,
whether it's for business or it is for leisure.
Because if you make it all about the diet,
all about the workout, all about, it turns into rebound.
Either it becomes all or nothing.
Either you lose the benefit
of the reason why you're traveling in the first place
because you're so stressed out,
or it becomes an escape.
This will sometimes happen with fitness fanatics
when they go on vacation.
It becomes less about the vacation
and more about the food.
Oh my God, I've been dieting to go to Hawaii.
Now that I'm here, I'm just gonna gorge and eat like crazy.
So focus on what's important
and don't sweat too much the details,
which is exactly kind of what you said.
By the way, we have a guide.
It's a DoorDash diet guide.
So on it, we cover popular places to eat,
what's good for cutting, what's good for bulking,
best options, worst options, macro breakdowns.
It's a totally free guide.
If you want it, all you gotta do is go to mpdoordash.com
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We'll see you there.