All right, look, I know it's cold, I know it's winter,
but summer's gonna come at some point
and you're gonna wanna get lean.
Now's the time to set yourself up.
I'm excited to talk to you right now
about how to start losing weight for summer right now.
Let's go.
I actually, I'm glad we're having this conversation now
because we typically do it when it's springtime
and everybody kinda-
A month away.
That the hype is around there.
Last minute kinda efforts.
And when I think about how I get myself ready for summer
or how I get a client ready for summer,
it starts right now.
Right now is when we build the metabolism.
It's very similar to, I mean,
even though we're not taking it to a stage level,
but it's just like how I talk to my bikini competitors
or men's physique athletes.
It's like the real work is in the off season before prep.
That's right.
And so consider this as like,
if you wanna have a great body come summertime,
the real work is done right now in the winter
of laying the foundation.
The time as we get closer into spring,
heading into the summer is the revealing
of the hard work that you put-
Building to the cut.
Yes.
So what's really cool is that we have a training staff now,
coaches and trainers, both in-person and virtual,
and they're now contributing to these topics.
And I mean, truth be told,
we typically don't think about a summer topic
until we're close to summer.
And we got a lot of stuff going on.
We're doing lots of episodes.
And the truth is, this is the best time to do this episode
because there's a setup.
There's a setup to the fat loss that needs to occur.
If you want this to be effective fat loss,
and if you want it to be sustainable fat loss-
Staying power.
What you don't wanna do is get caught like,
uh-oh, it's, you know, in a month or 45 days,
it's gonna be summertime.
Typically it's 30 days away when people think about this.
I'm gonna get lean.
And then because the time is so short
and they haven't set themselves up properly,
their metabolism is in a good place, it ends up failing.
Either A, they do lose some weight,
they lose some muscle along with it,
or B, they fail, or C, they get there
and then they gain it all back,
which is what happens to a lot of people.
So the way you set things up is so important.
So if you wanna look lean for the summer,
right now is when you start with the reverse diet
and the building of the metabolism.
This is the most important part, everybody.
And here's why.
If you wanna lose body fat,
you have to eat in what's known as a calorie deficit.
In other words, you have to take in less calories
than your body is burning.
And if your body is burning-
By the way, the calories your body burns
both comes from activity,
but it also comes from your resting metabolic rate.
It's how many calories your body burns on its own.
If that's high, then the amount of calories they can eat
to cause weight loss can be higher.
If that's low, the amount of calories they need to eat
to cause weight loss is much lower.
So to paint this in a very stark picture,
if my metabolism is burning 1,900 calories a day
and I wanna get lean, I gotta eat like 1,500 or 1,400
or 1,200 calories to get there, that sucks.
First off, that's not enough calories
to maintain any decent amount of muscles.
You're gonna get some muscle loss,
and you're not gonna be able to sustain it.
So if you're starting this process now,
what it looks like right now is called a reverse diet
and a focus on building that metabolic machinery
to make this much more effective
when you start getting closer to summertime.
It makes this so much easier.
Yes.
It makes it so much easier when you spend the time
building that extra muscle, building the metabolism up,
getting to a place where you're eating more calories
than you're used to, then to come back the other direction,
and then you land somewhere.
What's so great is that you can cut calories
and land in a place that is comfortable.
Now, that doesn't mean you'll never be hungry
in a diet, that's a normal feeling,
but you won't feel like you're starving,
and most importantly, you won't have to deprive your body
of so much of the macro, micronutrients that it needs
to maintain the lean body mass
that you're working so hard to build.
Tell the story of winning coach Melissa.
I love that story because it's such a great example
of if you do this right, where you can end up.
Tell that story.
Yeah, well, it's exciting, too,
because I'm about to do it again with Corrine, right?
I haven't done this for, I think I look back,
I think Melissa was almost six, seven years ago,
so it was a long time since I took a competitor on,
and a very similar situation, right?
So she weighed around, I wanna say around 119 weight-wise.
She was eating around 1,800 to 2,000 calories,
in good shape, already in really good shape.
Not in-
But she wants to get a stage presentation.
Yeah, yeah, right, so she was in good shape.
I just wanna make that clear already.
She couldn't go compete and win a trophy,
but this is a good example of you have somebody
who's already in pretty good shape, healthy,
eating 2,100, 2,000 calories or whatever,
and then comes to me and says,
hey, I wanna compete and go on a show,
and I go, okay, well, and she's like,
I wanna do a show with this time,
and I said, well, we won't do that
until I build your metabolism first,
because I know I'm gonna have to cut calories
to really lean you out for a stage presence,
and you're already only at 2,000 calories,
and so I'm gonna put you in an unhealthy place,
so let's build first.
And what was so awesome was that we went through
probably a good three months or so of reverse dieting,
and it was just a few hundred calories at a time,
and really focused on strength and building muscle,
got her all the way up to the high 2,000,
I think we even peaked at like 2,900 calories
where I got her up to,
and we really didn't put on that much weight.
We put a couple pounds of muscle on her body,
maybe even a little bit of body fat,
but not very much at all,
but really ramped that metabolism up,
and she actually hit stage, we won,
she won her class, she took overall,
and she won another for a first-time trophy,
or so she had walked away with three trophies,
and she was eating 2,200 calories in her final prep week.
And this is stage leanness, it's not even healthy leanness.
Yeah, yeah.
So she ate more on stage than she came to the UFC.
Yeah, that just shows you how radical of a difference
that you can make with somebody metabolically,
which is why, if you've listened to the show for very long,
you may have heard us, we get really feisty
about the coaches and trainers
that try and make this argument
that muscle doesn't really burn
that many more calories per day,
and it's so misleading,
because if you take muscle tissue
and you take fat tissue out
and you measure just its rate of calories,
energy it uses in a day.
It's more, but it's not a huge number.
Yeah, exactly.
So in the studies, somebody might try and say,
oh, it's not that big of a difference,
but it's like what you're not realizing
is that person who built that muscle
now moves more and differently throughout the day,
moves a bigger, stronger body throughout the day.
It's also really complex.
It is, exactly.
This is just what I know.
This is not even to the last part where I'd go,
and that's what I don't,
and there's other things I don't know.
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What I know, to maintain that muscle,
the amount of volume and training is required,
is increased, the strength of that person is increased.
Their activity level,
because now they're stronger and healthier, is increased,
and so it doesn't tell the whole story
of somebody who adds five or 10 pounds of muscle
what exactly it does to their metabolic rate
when we just look at the studies.
It's not good enough.
What we have found in our personal experience,
all of us in here training clients, is a radical difference.
I've taken female clients like that
and been able to feed them 900 more calories
and them not put on body fat.
I mean, that does not align
with what the studies say about muscle,
because I didn't put 40 pounds of muscle on her.
We put five to 10 pounds, maybe,
of muscle at most on her body.
Right, so it starts with the reverse diet.
This is a slow increase in calories.
You're adding 100 calories every other week,
200 calories every other week,
and you're also eating high protein.
So you're hitting your target body weight
in grams of protein, and the focus is strength and muscle.
So this period right here, I'm just trying to build muscle.
I'm just trying to get stronger.
Now, the next step is when you start
to look at cutting your calories,
and so the question's always like,
wait, when do I know?
When do we do that?
When do I cut calories?
Here's when you start, when you're eating a lot of food.
When you're at the point where you're like,
I'm eating a lot of food,
I think if I start cutting some food from here,
I'm gonna feel okay, because I'm eating so much.
Like in the case of Melissa, small girl,
eating 2,800 calories, she was probably like,
I can't eat any more food.
Well, now we know we're at a good place
where we can start to cut.
Just so you guys know, that was when I said,
okay, it's time to book a show.
I kept pushing her, the calorie-wise,
until she looked back at me and she goes,
Adam, it is like a full-time job,
eating this much food.
I don't know if I could go any higher than this.
I'm like, perfect.
Yep, so now the countdown begins.
Yeah, now I'm like, okay, book our show.
Now the cut, the slow cut begins,
and then the steps you're about to go over
is exactly what this looked like,
but that was what triggered,
because someone might ask, well, why'd you stop at 29?
Why that number?
It was like, I kept pushing her
until she looked back at me and was like,
this is more food I've ever had in my life.
It's so much food.
I'm like, okay, this is enough runway
for me to work with.
Perfect, so when you get to the place
where you're eating a lot of food,
you're strong, you feel good,
you're like, I could cut from here and be comfortable,
this is when you can start cutting your calories,
and it typically looks like a 300 to 500-calorie drop,
sometimes a little more,
depending on how many total calories you're eating.
So I'll say, on average, four or 500 calories
below what you've been currently eating.
So now you cut your calories
and simultaneously add this third step,
which is adjust your workouts.
So here's what a lot of people do.
They cut their calories and they dramatically ramp up
the intensity of their workouts.
Don't do that.
Either A, keep your workouts the same,
or B, which is more likely,
is you actually reduce a little bit of the volume
because you're just not eating as many calories.
Your body doesn't have the same recovery ability
now with the reduced calories.
If you reverse dieted yourself up to 3,000 calories
and now you're at 2,500 calories,
you have 500 less calories
that you can use to recover from, okay?
So what you definitely don't wanna do
is simultaneously bump up the volume of your training.
Now I'm doing, instead of three sets of this extra,
I'm doing five sets.
Instead of working out three days a week in the gym,
I'm working out five days a week in the gym.
Don't do that at the same time.
That's a total recipe for disaster.
I would make it even,
so we didn't change that at all, right?
So in fact, I would actually tell her
to be careful of intensity and volume
because we're now in a deficit.
We're adding a new layer of stress.
That's right.
So now that we're cutting and we're not feeding the body
what it was just used to feeding it,
we're already adding a layer of stress.
So the last thing we wanna do is ramp intensity up.
We were doing that on the build.
When we were building and we were eating
a surplus of calories, that's when I was pushing intensity.
That's when I was stacking on things.
Now that we're getting ready to reveal this physique,
we actually wanna keep the workouts the same
or actually even back off a tiny bit of intensity and volume.
And when you say 500 calories,
what I like to do is I wanna create a 500 calorie deficit
and the deficit would come from half calories, half steps.
So it would look like about 250 calories
and I'd add about 2,000 steps.
Now that's obviously the body size
and everything's gonna change, but roughly about that,
and I know that's one of your points on here
is to add steps.
Yes, that's the way to add activity.
I just wanna be very clear because you may wanna add activity
and one of the best ways to do this is to add steps
because it's throughout the day, it's your regular day.
It's not intense, so it's not taken away from recovery.
In many cases, it helps facilitate recovery.
It's actually recuperative.
So, and this is very easy to track nowadays.
Step counters are really inexpensive.
Your phone probably has one.
And so if you're averaging 7,000 steps a day,
bump it up to 9,000 steps a day.
Very easy thing you can add to increase the calorie deficit.
So I tell you kind of the method behind my madness on that
or why that way.
I just, knowing that I can only play
the calorie cutting game for so long.
Now we talk on the show that I think a 500 calorie cut
is good or a deficit, however you wanna say it,
is a good number.
And so I always liked being able to keep my competitor
or person I'm trying to cut fed,
giving them somewhat of a reduction
so we move in that direction,
but then also just starting to edge up activity.
So I'm creating that deficit you're shooting for,
but I'm doing it with a little bit of both
so I have a little bit of a runway on both ends.
Like I know I can continue to go more with activity.
Just 2,000 steps isn't a huge ask per day.
It just means actively paying attention and going after it,
which is a couple walks to get 2,000 more.
And then that's okay.
I'm not asking you to restrict a ton.
You're just, you're cutting back a little bit
on portion size or maybe one of the meals
if you're doing lots of small meals.
And so it's an easy adjustment
and it leaves me a lot of runway.
And so that was kind of the theory or idea
with the competitors I would do that.
And so I like the idea of like a 250.
Now, if I had a big guy who,
like let's say I was coaching you at 4,000 plus calories.
Easy to cut.
Yes, I can cut 500 calories
and like I could cut at least 500.
You don't even need to add steps yet.
Yes, because you're at such a high color.
When I start, when I'm doing this with female clients
who are under 3,000 calories, I do a little bit of both
because I have less of a runway.
A big dude who's eating five,
who has a hard time eating enough to keep his mass,
so I'm like, oh, chop 500, 700 calories right away.
I don't even have to add steps
and they're right away sort of deleted.
Right, so you're adjusting your workouts.
You're not training with tons of intensity
because you're cutting your calories.
You're monitoring your activity,
increasing your activity a little bit.
The best way to do this in our experience
is to monitor your steps.
Obviously you can be active different ways,
but it's just something you can track
and you can see on a regular basis is subjective.
Steps is a great way to do this.
And here's the last thing you do.
The last thing you do is add cardio.
This is the last thing you do in this fat loss process.
So you're cutting your calories, you're adding steps.
You could cut your calories probably a couple times
through this process at 1.250 with added steps.
Another time, another 250 with added steps.
And then at the end, probably with a few weeks left,
this is when you add your 30 minutes or whatever.
Everybody usually puts that first.
Everybody does this all the wrong way.
That's number one.
Everybody does it the wrong way, loses a bunch of muscle
and finds themselves in a very difficult position.
So most of the research that I read around this,
and this is what led me to the strategy that I used
of the final weeks of only cardio.
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Is it only takes about two to four weeks for your body
to get adapted to whatever cardiovascular training
that you're doing?
Which is, I also think this is where
the whole hell week came from,
why it only takes like a week of like hard training
for a sport to,
and that doesn't mean you're at peak condition,
but like.
You still get a fetch, but you get a lot of it in that first week.
You catch up to game speed.
You adapt really fast to cardiovascular endurance.
And so, because you adapt so fast,
so do the fat loss results from that.
So, my logic behind training the clients or competitors
was let's keep moving steps through activity through the day
without using any bouts of cardio.
Structured cardio.
Yeah, structured cardio for as long as you can
until just like the food thing,
the feedback I would look back from Melissa,
when she would come back to me,
she'd go, okay Adam,
you're having me do 16,000 steps.
This is hard for me not to get on a piece of equipment
and kind of get after it a little bit
to get those steps up there.
Now we start doing this.
Now, when we do this,
it's ending up being somewhere between
two to three weeks before peak time.
So, if you're getting ready for summer,
this is just the final couple weeks.
So, if you do a really good job
of what I'm talking about with calories
and a little bit of steps,
you inch your way from the average person
who does six to 8,000 steps,
you know, 8,000 to 10,000 to 12,000 to 14,000.
You start getting what I have found is common.
Once you start putting over 15,000 steps or so,
most people need to have some time
on some equipment to do that,
which is perfect because we've now been doing this
for a month or well over a month and a half
to heading down this pathway.
And now it's time,
okay, I can start to introduce
a little bit of cardiovascular endurance training.
And because it's so foreign to the body.
It's so novel.
Your body goes, oh my God, and it's burning.
And it leans you out really nice.
And it's the perfect way to get somebody show ready.
It's the perfect way to get somebody ready for summer
is to use cardio as a tool.
When you are thinking about aesthetics,
how you want to look,
this is not the best approach
if you're trying to run a marathon
or you are looking for longevity.
No, this is fat loss.
This is not athletic training.
You want the best strategy to lean out
the fastest possible, the healthiest, smartest way.
Then you want to use cardio as your final chisel or tool.
That's how I used to explain to my clients is right now,
we're going to use your piece of clay
and I'm using the chainsaw to knock the big pieces off.
And then when we get to the final couple of weeks is cardio
and that's the chiseling away at the aesthetics of the body.
And that's what the final two, three weeks.
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