Marjorie Taylor Greene says Maduro s capture is not America First Full interview
Welcome back and joining me now is Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.
Congresswoman, welcome to Meet the Press.
Thanks for having me this morning.
Thank you so much for being here. We really appreciate it. Tomorrow is your last day
in Congress, so incredibly significant to have you here today, Congresswoman.
You and President Trump, of course, had an extraordinary break
last year. We'll talk all about that in just a moment. But I do want to
talk about something you said this weekend in the wake of this attack against Venezuela,
removing Nicolas Maduro. You said that the administration's actions were not America first.
Now, the president was asked about this idea yesterday. I want to play that clip
and get your reaction on the other side. Take a look.
Mr. President, why is running a country in South America America first?
Well, I think it is because we want to surround ourselves with good neighbors. We want to
surround ourselves with stability. We want to surround ourselves with energy. We have tremendous
energy in that country. It's very important that we protect it. We need that for ourselves. We
need that for the world. Why do you disagree, Congresswoman?
Well, you know, I served on the Homeland Security Committee for three years, and I am
overwhelmingly in support of a strong border. I impeached Secretary Mayorkas. Those were my
articles of impeachment that passed the House, because fentanyl overdoses skyrocketed to 280%
in my own district. And the majority of American fentanyl overdoses and deaths come from Mexico.
Those are the Mexican cartels that are killing Americans. And so my pushback here is, if this
was really about narco-terrorists and about protecting Americans from cartels and drugs
being brought into America, the Trump administration would be attacking the Mexican cartels.
Now, I am not defending Maduro, and of course I'm happy for the people of Venezuela to be liberated,
but Americans celebrated the liberation of the Iraqi people after Saddam Hussein. They
celebrated the liberation of the Libyan people after Gaddafi. And this is the same Washington
playbook that we are so sick and tired of that doesn't serve the American people, but actually
serves the big corporations, the banks, and the oil executives. And so my pushback here is on the
Trump administration that campaigned on Make America Great Again that we thought was putting
America first. I want to see domestic policy be the priority that helps Americans afford life
after four disastrous years of the Biden administration. I want to see domestic
policies that prioritizes jobs and affordable housing for Americans after four disastrous years
of the Biden administration. And I want to see domestic priorities that put Americans first in
regards of healthcare, health insurance costs too much, car insurance, home insurance. And these are
issues that matter to Americans. We don't consider Venezuela our neighborhood. Our neighborhood is
right here in the 50 United States, not in the Southern hemisphere.
Well, let me ask you, because President Trump says he gets to decide what America first means.
Does America first mean whatever President Trump says it does?
You know, America first should mean what was promised on the campaign trail in 2024.
So my understanding of America first is strictly for the American people,
not for the big donors that donate to big politicians, not for the special interests
that constantly roam the halls in Washington, and not foreign countries that demand their
priorities put first over Americans. America first actually means for the American people.
And the American people have been put last consistently decades and decades by both
political parties for far too long. My kids' generation, my kids are 22, 26 and 28,
are looking at a future where this whole entire generation doesn't think they'll ever see a
social security check. They don't believe they'll ever be able to afford to own their own home.
And 50-year mortgages are really a slap in the face. It's insulting. Americans don't want
$2,000 stimulus checks as a payoff. They want to have good policies brought forth for them,
because you want to know something, Kristen? They voted for this administration,
and their small-dollar donations should matter. And MAGA has its own enemy list,
and the enemies of the world are not on their enemy list, and they're tired of being ignored.
Let me ask you about your breakup with President Trump. Part of that was over this battle over
releasing the Epstein files. In September, after a meeting with a group of Epstein survivors,
you'd held a news conference and threatened to identify some of the men who had abused them.
The New York Times Magazine reported that President Trump called you in
your office afterwards and, quote,
according to a staff member, everyone in the suite of rooms could hear him yelling at her as
she listened to him on speakerphone. Green says she expressed her perplexity over his intransigence.
According to Green, Trump replied,
My friends will get hurt. What do you think President Trump meant by
my friends will get hurt, Congresswoman? You know, I've been asking that question
ever since, and I make no apologies for standing with women and victims of rape,
because in this country there are far too many victims of rape. All walks of men and women
alike have been victims of rape or some type of child abuse. And the Epstein files is significant,
and demanding transparency for that should not lead to the president, who I helped get elected
and supported far more than pretty much any Republican in Washington. It should not have
led to him calling me a traitor. That is absolutely unacceptable, and the American people reject it.
But here's what should be prioritized, is victims, and victims of an entire system that protected
the rich, powerful elites. And that's what Americans are absolutely sick and tired of.
That was part of what they voted for in 2024. They voted to tear down the system that protects
the rich, powerful elites. They voted to tear down the system that consistently goes for foreign wars
and regime change. They voted to tear down the system that does nothing for regular, hardworking
Americans, and only consistently props up the big banks, the military industrial complex,
and the oil executives, and major, major industries. And you know, you want to know
something? After this regime change in Venezuela, I fear that we're going to see jobs just move
south, because we're already hearing about big corporations lining up their trips to Venezuela
for the next big business opportunity that exists, while Americans sit here with no
options that are going to provide them with good-paying jobs and affordable health care.
Congresswoman, let me finally ask you about one of the rifts and concerns in the Republican Party
over the issue of anti-Semitism. In 2022, you did speak at a conference organized by Nick Fuentes.
He's a white nationalist. He recently said that Hitler is, quote,
cool. Let me ask you about your perspective right now. Do you believe there is room in the
Republican Party for Nick Fuentes and anyone who shares that ideology, that Hitler is cool?
Here's my situation, and here's my belief on people's speech. I will always defend
the First Amendment and free speech, no matter what kind of speech it is,
even speech that I find abhorrent or I disagree with, because I think that it
makes us uniquely American. What concerns me is that when we moved towards censorship,
and we saw that happen during COVID, I myself had my own Twitter account permanently banned
because I spoke out against FDA-rushed approval of the COVID vaccines, and I spoke out against
lockdowns and forced masking. And, you know, when I look at people saying that certain types
of speech needs to be censored, and we have been hearing that lately, that raises great concern for
me. So I think it's something that we have to take seriously, is as Americans, we don't have
to agree with each other, and we certainly can disagree, but we should overwhelmingly agree
that free speech must be protected. Well, let me just, I mean, during COVID,
you did compare lockdowns to the Holocaust. I understand your point about free speech,
but let me press you there because Nick Fuentes has said on his podcast, quote,
Hitler was awesome. That's a misquote. Kristen, that's a misquote. That's a misquote. That's not
correct. I compared vaccine cards, being forced to take a vaccine in order to be able to keep a job
or buy or sell or be able to be admitted to restaurants. I compared that. That was not,
I was not comparing, the Holocaust was horrible. I'm not comparing anything to that.
Let me just ask you though, because Nick Fuentes has said on his podcast, Hitler was awesome.
Hitler was right. The Holocaust didn't happen. He also participated in the Charlottesville rally
where demonstrators chanted, Jews will not replace us. Senator Ted Cruz says this is a
time for choosing. He says, if you're embracing someone who says Hitler is cool, you are complicit
in that evil. Do you think Ted Cruz has a point that you'd be complicit in that evil to support
or in any way fail to denounce what Nick Fuentes has said? Kristen, I don't know Nick Fuentes.
I don't even have his phone number. He doesn't have my phone number. I spoke at a conference
of his because it was largely attended by young Americans. And I care about that generation. And
I went there to talk directly to them. So I really am not familiar with what Nick Fuentes says,
whether it's on social media or his podcast, nor do I pay that much attention to Ted Cruz.
He routinely attacks me. The things that I focus on is the needs of the American people.
But should he be embraced in the Republican Party, Congresswoman? Is there room for him
in the Republican Party? Kristen, I don't think that this is about the Republican Party and it's
not about Nick Fuentes. I see this about free speech. And I'm going to sit here and tell you
over and over again, I defend the First Amendment. I will defend free speech, whether I like the
speech, agree with the speech, disagree with the speech, hate the speech. I'm going to defend it
because I can point to many other people in the Democrat Party that I completely don't like their
speech. I can point to members of the press that have written horrific stories that I think are
lies. And I can say, I don't like that speech, but I still defend free speech. And I still defend
the press having rights to publish stories, because I think that's how you hold the government
accountable. And I want a press that that tells the truth to the American people, not not slants
it or paints it one way, but strictly publishes the truth. And that's what Americans really want.
So I'm not going to engage in weighing in on who deserves to be where I'm going to strictly tell
you, I will defend free speech at all costs. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, again,
thank you for joining us right before your last day in Congress. We'll track your political future
or any future very closely. Really appreciate it. We thank you for watching. And remember,
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