In this week’s episode of The Smartest Girl in the World, Jason and Nivine dive into the complexities of modern relationships and dating. They tackle the challenges of navigating workplace romance, share tips for meeting people who are serious about commitment, and explore ways to build self-confidence and self-worth in the dating world. Plus, they discuss why ghosting happens, how to handle it emotionally, and finding a partner who appreciates your independence and ambition.
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Welcome back to the show.
Ladies and gentlemen, here she is.
The one and only.
You know, the intro, I love.
I love doing it, but I feel like we should get right to it in the podcast.
You know what I mean?
I feel that you should sing me a little jingle.
Oh, sing a praise.
Okay, here we go.
Go ahead.
There once was a woman, oh, she was the most beautiful woman in the world.
And she also was very smart.
She captured my heart and mind.
I saw Bob Dylan's movie last night, so now I'm singing like that.
I'm a troubadour.
Hey, I'm a troubadour.
I feel like it's losing the plot of it being about me, but.
Let's bring it back to Naveen.
She's Lebanese and she is so beautiful, so wonderful.
Here she is, the host of the show, the smartest girl in the world.
And my co-host, Jason.
J-Dawg.
Can you guys call me J-Dawg in the comments?
Can I just see one?
What's up, J-Dawg?
I'm trying to get people to call me J-Dawg.
You know, you can't ask people to give you a nickname.
You cannot.
No, it's not okay.
And, you know, I tried it.
I tried it on my live stream.
I said, can you guys start calling me J-Dawg?
Well, the trouble with your live stream was no one was able to talk back.
So you just kept referring to yourself as J-Dawg.
No, some of my best would be like, no, we can't.
Some of the best people in there would be like, no, we can't.
But then one guy, one guy would come in every day and be like, what's up, J-Dawg?
Jeff the Terminator, I'd call him.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, yeah.
Do you miss him?
I do.
Yeah?
I do miss live.
Sometimes when Jason is asleep in bed, he's like, Jeff, Jeff.
He's like.
Atomic.
A lion.
Homebody lady.
Just like saying people's screen names.
And the thing I love is, is you have like, even me through you.
Like, I know the people that are in your chat for a while.
Like, everyone was so sweet.
Everyone was the best.
As much hate as you got, like you got, I feel, equal amounts of love.
Yeah, equal amounts of love.
Which is cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think more love.
Well, like 10 times more love.
But I think hate is just louder.
Right, right, right.
I also had a really good moderator that, like, I didn't see all the bad stuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
But she would stab it right out.
I used to, when I went live for a second.
Yeah.
I hated having a moderator.
Why?
And I kept taking it away from people.
Why?
Because you wanted to see all the bad stuff?
Well, because people assume, this is what I hate about, this is what I hated about having
a moderator, is people assume that they said something that hurt you.
Yeah.
And so you took it off.
Right.
And I would never want anyone to think that they said something that affected me.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Because, like, they'll say something about something so stupid that I wouldn't care about,
but the moderator, can they?
What are they doing?
Fighting a fire or something important?
Yeah, they are.
There's been helicopters.
Choppa.
There's police helicopters around these parts.
Yeah, that was a police helicopter.
Yeah, I keep seeing him.
He kept passing our bedroom window, and I was like, alright, buddy.
I'm taken.
Let's reset and tell everybody, welcome to the show.
Welcome.
Welcome to the show.
Welcome.
Happy New Year.
And our thanks to all the firefighters, everybody.
We're so sorry for everyone that has faced the devastation of the fires.
It is, we talked about it on the Views podcast.
We're talking about it here.
We've been, you know, living it every day.
We're really lucky.
Yeah.
And we're really grateful that we still have our house.
And we have one more day of bad winds, and hopefully everything will be okay.
Just one more day?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's...
That's what I heard.
Yeah.
I feel like once it's done, then you can, like, assess.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
I feel like I'm, like, so nervous.
And then who knows what will come in the coming weeks, too.
I mean, who knows?
It's a dry season here.
But hopefully there's supposed to be some rain.
Do you think there's a bad guy in the neighborhood or something?
Probably.
You think?
Yeah.
Because our door is open.
No, it's not.
Like, this one?
No.
I don't see them walk by.
They just run in.
They walk us out.
We're like, can you just...
Can you just put my makeup bag out?
And that's it.
We went out.
We did donations for a few days.
And then, you know, we're trying to get back to normal and work and do stuff and put out content.
That's what we do.
And it's been a while since we've done this podcast.
And listen, I love doing this.
I love just sitting and talking with you.
It's great.
It's like how we normally talk, except there's like a little bit of pressure.
You feel pressure?
A little bit.
Really?
Well, I want to make it good for you.
Yeah.
Oh, you're always great.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
Good, good, good.
Like, most of the complaints I've been getting are about you.
But besides that...
I'm just kidding.
No, you've been so perfect.
Thank you.
I love you so much.
Yeah.
What do we have on the docket today?
So, we have had a lot of questions submitted.
Great.
We took a little break for the holidays.
Mm-hmm.
And now we're back.
Are you ready to dive in?
I'm ready to just go microglobs this right now.
Is that the guy that...
He's a very, very big swimmer.
He is on the ads for needing help, right?
Like mental health?
I don't know.
He's like the face of a therapy app or something.
He's a gold medal swimmer.
Yeah, yeah.
Gold medalist.
He's obsessed with therapy.
Yeah.
Do you think that people that are obsessed with therapy
are just obsessed with talking about themselves?
Because I think if something happened,
you should go to therapy or like to kind of like check in.
But if you're going and it's been like years
and you're just going consistently once a week,
I think there's something about you like hearing yourself talk.
Right, right, right.
Well, we can't say that if someone has a really traumatic happening.
I'm going to keep saying that.
Right, but at one point, like even Natalia,
like we're on season two and I'm already like, okay.
Like that was awful.
I can't imagine.
Yeah.
But now let's move on.
Don't make the rest of your life about that moment.
Well, that documentary too is stringing it along really slowly.
They repeat stuff.
If something bad happens to you
and like a chunk of time is taken from you,
if you keep reliving it,
now it's out of the person's hands that took that time from you.
Now you're taking that time from them.
There's a lot of people that say that.
As my partner, you did something really amazing.
Oh, I did.
Which is, no, no, it's actually amazing.
Like it's changed my life.
If it's what I'm thinking of.
No, it's not that.
Then I want to thank you too.
Get your mind out of the gutter.
No, you fixed my sleep.
Oh.
And I've been sleeping through the night.
And it's been amazing.
So thank you.
We tried a lot of things.
We did try a lot of things.
I was getting up in the middle of the night
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And then waking up really tired and I was like grumpy all day.
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Which is awesome.
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Where can I meet women
who are also looking for a long-term relationship
instead of just casual dating?
Where is the guy to go?
You could go outside.
You could go to the coffee shop.
The bookstore.
Any dating app.
Honestly, anywhere.
Just walk down the street.
Yeah.
And hope for the best.
The girls are ready to date, I think.
Okay, so this guy is having trouble meeting someone to date.
They just want sex with him?
Maybe he's just this really handsome guy.
I think quite maybe the opposite.
Oh.
No, that's kind of rude.
I think there's maybe something you're doing
if everyone's trying to be casual with you.
I'm just too good looking and all they want is my body.
I'm sure you have that problem.
Stop it.
No, never.
I think the best thing to do is set yourself up to win.
You can put yourself in situations.
Every woman wants a relationship, don't they?
I think at the end of the day,
most people want to find someone to connect with and be with.
But maybe instead of, for example,
a Tinder-type swipe situation,
maybe join a matchmaking thing
or an eHarmonyMatch.com.
Places where people are looking for something more.
Even like I feel like Hinge
or I'm sure there's new dating apps too
where it's more conversational
rather than just swiping and do I think you're hot or not kind of thing.
Maybe that would be more helpful.
So you're saying dating apps are good?
Dating apps can be good if you use the right ones.
I've heard people be like,
no, I went on Tinder and I hated it.
And it's like, well,
that's very much turned into a hookup app.
Here's the problem with dating apps.
You get on there and let's say you get a match.
And then you're like, okay, this person maybe.
Then you've got to go out.
You've got to spend four hours going to meet this person.
And the chances are it's not going to hit.
It's not going to be right.
And they could be a great person,
but they're not going to be your person.
So let me throw a scenario at you.
Okay.
What if you were 400 pounds?
Okay.
You're not.
400 pounds.
And then I said every day,
you have to go out and walk an hour.
You'd be like the first couple of times.
You don't see a change, right?
Right.
You're like, what am I doing?
This is ridiculous.
Right.
Like I'm still 400 pounds.
Eventually you're going to start,
your back's going to start feeling better.
After a while,
like as long as you're moving towards the right direction,
you're moving towards your goal.
Even though it doesn't feel like you're making a change,
you actually are,
because you are getting closer to the thing you want.
Does that make sense?
It makes total sense.
It feels like pointless,
but it's actually not.
It's kind of like when you want to like,
I'm going to get this awesome body.
I'm going to have a transformation.
But it takes time.
It takes a year.
It could take a year and a half.
It could take nine months.
It could take two years.
It could take, you know, you could drop the weight quick.
You just don't know.
You don't get to know how long it's going to take.
Right.
Yep.
So you're saying you just got to keep going.
As long as you're going the right way,
then you will see a result.
Like if I told you every day,
if you walk an hour,
you will see a result.
If every day,
if you go on a date,
eventually you will find your person.
See it like that.
It's like, oh, I'm just working towards my goal.
Okay.
All right.
And give me a place right at the top of your head
where he can start right tonight.
Go.
Where should we go?
I think you should go, um...
I think a festival is really good.
A festival is good.
Like a music festival?
A music festival.
A food festival?
And if you have a woman with you,
that's really good
because then you'll look like you're not threatening.
No.
If you have a woman with you, that's...
That's bad?
No.
Why?
It's so weird.
A friend that's a woman?
Well, first of all,
the girl's not going to even look at you
because it's like you're with some...
Like, it's just a weird...
Oh, you think so?
Yeah, I would think it was like a weird couple
that's like open,
that's going to try to sleep with me or...
Oh.
I don't know.
I think it's off-putting.
Oh, right.
I disagree.
I think it's okay.
I think it's a really good way to like...
Because then if you're like standing there
and there's a woman with you
and you start saying...
You say hello to the woman,
the woman's going to be more likely to be like,
oh, hey, what's up?
Like, you're not a killer.
I wouldn't think that.
No, you wouldn't?
No, no, no.
That would make me feel like you're trapping...
I would literally think you were going to...
Traffic you?
Traffic you.
Oh, really?
I'd be like, uh-uh.
Like, the woman's supposed to make you feel comfortable.
Like, I'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're not doing this.
Right.
Okay, all right.
No food festivals.
Okay.
Next question.
Keep going.
Just go on dating apps
and maybe put like you're looking for the real deal.
After talking to Wyatt last night,
I realize sometimes my advice sounds like
I'm like a 60-year-old romantic.
Yeah, you are romantic.
Like I'm not with the time.
Yeah, that's okay.
That's all right.
Did we help him?
Yes.
This is what I want you to do.
I want you to take your cell phone.
Yeah.
Okay?
Prop it up on your breakfast table.
Yeah.
And I want you
to play out a date
and see what your mannerisms look like
and see like...
Sometimes we say things
and we don't mean for them to come off a certain way.
So do like a practice date
and like watch yourself
because sometimes I notice when I talk
like I open my eyes too wide
and my eyes are already too big.
So I actually have to consciously like
relax them a little bit.
There's little things we do
that could potentially turn someone off.
So you have to be just like really self-aware.
So maybe talk to your camera.
So what do you do?
What kind of work are you into?
No, like if I get excited,
I'm like, oh my God.
And it's like
that could look a little intense.
So now I'm like very laid back.
Very cool.
No, that's the best part of you
is when you're excited.
No, no, I know.
But we don't know what he looks like
when he's excited.
And yeah, I think another big thing
is like practicing how you laugh.
Like just
be like very curated.
That is so funny.
That drives my mind crazy.
What?
I feel like insane when I do that.
When I start laughing like that,
I feel like I could like, you know,
end up in the mental hospital.
Oh my God, that's so funny.
My mother used to take a mindful class
and they would practice laughing like that.
Really?
Yeah, they'd be like,
no one said anything funny yet.
Why do people ghost after a good first date?
And how can I protect myself
from feeling hurt whenever it happens to me?
I think everyone in the world
needs to work on
not taking things personally.
And someone ghosting you
doesn't necessarily mean
the date didn't go well or whatever.
Like it could just be
they had a greater connection with someone else.
Their ex came back into the picture.
If someone's not talking to you,
it's like, okay, like something happened.
Really?
They weren't into you?
Yeah.
How do you stop them
from making you hurt?
She's saying,
how do you stop them feeling bad when that goes?
So it's like she goes out on a date.
She thinks it's good.
Then, oh yeah, I had a good time.
Thanks.
I'll call you this week.
I'll call you tomorrow.
Maybe he says, I'll call you tomorrow, right?
When he doesn't call.
How do you protect yourself from that?
So now let's go to the moment
where it's like, uh-oh,
it's been two days
and I haven't heard from Pete.
Yeah.
What do you do?
Um, I think maybe...
What about this?
What if you say,
hey, listen, I had a really good time tonight.
I really like you.
If you're gonna ghost me...
No, because then it sounds so...
I don't think either of those work.
So here's a tip for girls
that I think is very important.
We're over-sharers.
Guys don't need to know
if you've ever been ghosted,
and guys don't need to know
if you've ever been cheated on.
I don't care if you're trying to open up to them.
Those two things,
you never share with them.
That, in a man's animal brain,
is like, oh.
Right.
Don't share it.
Talk to your girlfriends about it.
Get over it.
Move on.
You never were cheated on.
You never were ghosted.
If you go in with that energy,
I don't think it will happen again.
Right, okay.
It's like...
That's great.
Why would he ghost you?
That's really good advice.
And then if he does,
just pretend you died.
Like, it's so sad.
Pretend you died?
He died.
He died?
Yeah.
Just be like, oh my god,
that's like...
You can honestly...
We really have so much power
over our brains,
and we can believe anything we want to.
I think you're having negative thoughts
that it's you,
and that's what's making you sad.
One thing that Naveen is really good at,
and maybe this...
Being delusional?
No, I wasn't going to say it like that,
but someone watching might say that,
but she is really good at...
How do I say this?
You just have a great power.
You have a great inner drive
and inner confidence,
and if someone does something
that would maybe upset someone else,
Naveen has an incredible...
She literally would be like,
oh, that person died,
or she'll just make something up,
like, oh well,
that's his loss,
and that's really what you have to do.
If you go out on a date with somebody
and they ghost you,
you really have to just be so freaking strong
and love yourself so much
and be like,
well, they're missing out.
They're missing out on me.
my dating advice seriously,
it's like, oh, perfect.
Get to have a new first date with someone,
someone different.
Don't have to waste my time tomorrow
with this person.
Just...
If it's not your person,
keep moving.
Yeah.
Yeah, and also,
who's to say that
if the guy did call you
and then you got into something
and he wasted, you know,
a year or two of your life...
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He could have been terrible.
I mean, that's the other end
of all these dates
that you guys go on.
It's like,
you really don't want to get
into something that's bad.
Right.
If this person's gonna ghost you,
they probably did you a favor.
So that's what I would always say.
And you just have to,
and like, you know,
be strong.
Be with your friends.
Have people around you
that build you up.
Have people that are like,
girl, you're the best,
and it's just like,
it's just one person.
It's just not your person.
And I think it's also,
we get into things
where we like,
talk like if someone ghosted you,
like calling all your friends
and being like,
he hasn't called me,
it's been a week
and he hasn't called me.
Like, I think that you're
making that person more important
by talking about it so much.
If someone that you
haven't fallen in love with
and it's a first date
ghosts you,
I don't want you to even talk about it.
Like, that's the only way
that you can train your brain
to like, move on.
Like, your friends
shouldn't even know his name.
They shouldn't know anything
about the date.
It's like, okay, next date, next date.
Have you been seeing anyone?
No one that I care about yet.
That's all.
Don't overshare every single date
or you're going to feel
fake attachments
because everyone's going to be like,
did he ever call you?
Did he ever call you?
And it's like,
opening that wound
where it's like,
you don't even know this person.
That's really good.
Right?
Yeah, let's leave it at that.
Great job.
Next one.
That was good?
Yeah, really good.
How can I find someone
who values my independence and career
without feeling like
I need to change who I am?
Woman or man writing?
Woman.
Woman?
Already, like, I feel,
I don't even know anything about
the person that wrote in,
but already,
I feel as though
when you sit down on a first date,
you're like,
the problem I've had with dating
is like,
my independence is getting in the way
and I don't want to lose my independence
and like,
I'm so career focused
and my job is everything to me
and I don't want that taken away.
And so you're like,
putting a lot of,
like,
you kind of sound
a little masculine, maybe.
And so then people are like, eh.
Because to be honest,
guys like a girl that's independent
and guys like a girl
that has her own thing going on.
But guys don't want to hear
about your job
for more than like,
five minutes.
And they don't,
like,
being independent is one thing,
but talking about
how independent you are
is actually like,
I think very pick me
and very like,
you're trying to prove to me.
But I don't know if that's you.
I'm just like,
kind of spitballing.
So you're saying that
having a job,
I'm saying quit the job.
She likes her job.
Oh, I know what she could do.
I think one thing you could do
is you need to maybe
find somebody
that works in your field.
Like, let's say you're a lawyer,
right,
and you work a lot of hours
and you're really into your job
and you love your job,
which is great,
which is really cool.
Maybe find somebody
who's like,
in the same line of work.
Oh yeah,
then you can both be cheating
on each other.
That works perfectly.
No, I don't know.
I used to know a couple
that was,
they were two lawyers
and they kind of,
they would work in tandem.
They'd be like,
I'm gonna be at the courthouse
on Friday
and we can grab lunch
and oh,
I'm meeting with the DA.
And so maybe
that could be something.
Or you could just find yourself
a guy who's a bum
and he could sit around
and wait for you to come home.
That could work too.
Maybe you need a bum.
Yes.
Bums work great.
Here's the problem with that.
I love that.
Sure.
But here is what will happen.
What?
Your bum boyfriend
will be at home.
He'll make you food
when you come.
He'll listen about
all the hardships
of your day, right?
Yeah.
And then he'll be like,
you know, like...
He'll get turned off eventually?
No, no, no.
He'll be like,
oh, let's, you know,
like, hey,
you wanna go get me
a beer from the fridge?
And you're gonna be like,
I'm literally working
on my laptop.
What do you mean?
You're gonna be starting
to bark, right?
And then that guy
is gonna be going out
to get you
your morning coffee
because you can't.
You're unbearable
before you have coffee.
So he's going out
fetching you your coffee.
And then some girl
is gonna be like,
oh my God,
I love your shirt.
And he's gonna be like,
oh, me?
Like, you're complimenting me?
And she's gonna be like,
oh, you're so funny.
You're so cool.
Like, well, what do you do?
And he's gonna be like,
oh, uh.
He's gonna make something up
and she's gonna be
so fascinated by him.
And he's gonna feel
like a man, right?
Because the girl is
complimenting him.
I'm an open mic comedian
or whatever he does.
She's like, wait,
that's so crazy.
And you live in this neighborhood?
Whoa, that's wild.
She's gonna be fascinated.
I refurbish surfboards
in my garage.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
She's gonna be fascinated
by him, okay?
And he's gonna feel
like the big dog.
And then he will leave you.
Because at the end of the day,
I believe a man
has to feel like a man.
So that might work
for a short bit.
Okay, all right.
But some men have
a lot of estrogen in them.
And so if that's someone you find,
if you test their levels,
then that might not happen
with my scenario.
Right.
But yeah, I mean,
giving, keeping your job,
and I guess when you want
to meet somebody,
you have to give
a little bit away
from your independence, too, maybe.
Yeah, also...
Be prepared to...
Maybe like one person
said something about it,
but at the end of the day,
it shouldn't matter.
I don't know.
I think anyone talking
about their career too much
is annoying.
Yes, for sure.
I think, you know...
When I went on
my first date with Naveen,
I tried very much not to
talk about what I did.
Right, yeah.
I didn't even...
She didn't even ask,
and I was like,
I remember being like,
don't talk about that too much.
Yeah, I thought he was
a car salesman.
Yeah.
I'm thinking about it.
I'll see how this podcast does.
I think I would be
a really good car salesman.
Once TikTok goes down, yeah.
You think you would be?
Yes.
Oh, you'd be great at it, yeah.
Like a...
Like a serious...
Like I'm being so serious.
You'd kill it.
If I was in the mood.
I'd call my boss and be like,
I'm just not in the mood today.
I don't know if people
are buying cars right now.
You don't think?
No, the car business
is not good right now.
Oh.
Yeah.
Did we help her?
I think we helped her a lot.
I think...
And we gave her a few scenarios,
so there's some help in there,
I hope.
And you know what?
Naveen's right.
Stick to your guns.
Keep being you,
and just keep dating people.
You'll find the right person,
and maybe you won't have to...
Maybe you won't have to
compromise at all
with who you are
and your independence.
Just got to find the right guy.
Right.
I do think everyone has to...
I don't know.
Everyone has to compromise.
Everyone has to compromise,
but there can't...
Too independent
is not like the flex
that you think it is.
If you're having such
a great time independently,
bringing someone in
is just going to feel annoying.
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Nothing wrong
with staying single.
Here we go.
This is a hot pot.
Loving it.
We're really helping people today.
We're digging in.
We're putting...
We're rolling our sleeves up.
How do I build...
I'm basically
in a tight spot right now.
Mm.
Let's go.
How do I build my confidence
and stop doubting my worth
when it comes to going on dates?
Okay.
Number one.
I got the easiest way.
Yeah.
You ready, girl?
Go.
Go get yourself in sick shape.
Why'd you assume it was a girl?
I don't know.
I couldn't imagine a guy
writing that.
It is a girl.
I knew it.
Girl, go out right now.
Go get in sick shape.
I was like,
go get in sick shape.
Go get...
Get in a bikini
and send me a picture.
No, that's not...
And I'm gonna tell you
you're looking good
and that's gonna make you confident.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying,
I think number one,
right away,
that's like an easy way
to build confidence,
right away.
Get in shape.
You know,
your clothes fit awesome.
Maybe you go down a size.
You know?
No, I'm just saying,
like, that's...
I see what you're saying.
That's an incredible...
People don't like that.
What's that?
People don't like that.
Okay, fine.
You don't have to go down a size.
I don't want it.
Listen,
this is what I think you should do.
Go out there
and just,
right away,
get in shape.
Get in the best shape of your life.
Number one,
now you have confidence.
Now you're like,
you're walking into rooms,
you're feeling great.
So that's one way to do it.
Right there.
What else?
Can I point something out?
Sure.
To contradict that?
Sure.
I think if you don't work on
how you feel first,
like,
right when we met,
you literally had,
like,
a six pack,
right?
Yeah.
But at the time,
you really weren't confident.
Yeah,
I was more confident though.
But no,
because I remember,
so this,
I'll never forget this.
There's one picture I took of Jason.
He was like,
so shredded,
okay?
Sure.
And then I remember that day,
you were like,
oh no,
like,
I don't look good,
I don't look good.
But now when I look,
when I show him that photo,
it's like,
oh no,
that's when I was in really good shape,
like I was feeling good that day.
It's like,
no,
but you forget,
when it was in the moment,
you weren't.
Right,
that's true.
So like,
I think also remembering that,
like,
one day you'll look back at how you look
right this moment,
hopefully,
unless you're not,
you're not in a good place.
But,
but,
that's a different topic,
which I,
there's total validity in what you're saying,
like that is true.
But,
I know for a fact that when I met you
and I was in shape,
I was able to,
You're still in shape.
When I was,
when I was,
when I met you and I was in shape,
I was able to pull myself through
to be like,
okay,
I can do this,
I can,
I can be with her in order,
because I felt good about myself.
Right,
right,
So that,
that is true.
Now,
of course,
you're right,
I,
I have crazy,
terrible confidence issues that,
you know,
I'm still dealing with.
And I'm sure this person does too,
but that's why I really relate to what the question is.
But yeah,
I think like,
working out,
feeling good,
looking good,
getting ready every day,
I think is a big thing that,
That's a big one.
a lot of people aren't doing.
If,
like,
before you go to like,
a party,
I'm sure like,
you like,
feel really good,
because like,
you got ready,
and like,
and you're,
you know,
you're feeling good,
you're looking good,
you're wearing something really nice.
You don't have to save like,
a really pretty dress for like,
a party or like,
an event.
Like,
just go out in like,
your best outfit,
and I think you'll feel really confident.
Also,
just,
like,
I don't know,
like,
feeling confident,
I feel like,
especially going on a date,
is.
Also,
there's,
there's nothing wrong with,
being like,
okay,
taking,
taking a couple of months,
taking three months,
and be like,
you know what,
I'm not going to go on any dates.
That's okay,
yeah.
I'm literally going to work on myself.
I'm going to read,
I'm going to learn a new skill,
I'm going to get myself in order,
I'm going to,
get ahead at work,
I'm going to build my business,
and literally be like,
yo,
I'm not dating anybody right now,
I'm not giving anybody my time right now,
until I feel great about myself,
and watch what will happen.
Watch what will happen, girl.
Yeah.
You're,
the men are going to come crawling,
they're going to come beating,
beating down the door,
because they're going to be like,
oh my god,
like,
what's she doing differently,
what,
she doesn't,
she's not needy,
she's not,
she's,
she's in a place where she feels great about herself,
and then,
you're going to really attract people.
Right,
because also,
and if you,
check out my course,
it is,
going to be down at the JW Marion,
in Palm Desert,
on,
the weekend of January 25th,
to the 29th,
Naveen is not going to be there,
because I,
did I get you?
Yeah,
you hit that,
which hit me.
It hit you in the mouth?
Yeah.
I'm so sorry.
I'm sure that really hurt.
I'm sorry,
sweetie.
You okay,
is it bleeding?
Are you calling 911?
I'm really sorry.
When you,
When you show up as your best self,
you'll attract,
better people,
and so,
don't even date anyone,
until you do feel confident,
because you're going to get someone,
that's like,
kind of weird.
Okay,
let's do one more.
Should I tell,
my coworker,
Yeah.
That I'm interested in him,
or is dating someone at work,
not the vibe?
They said,
too risky,
but I like not the vibe.
I,
you know what,
if I was at an office all day,
I would have to date someone.
I always think about Jim and Pam,
from the office,
and,
and remember that,
Pam had a boyfriend,
at home.
That's why,
he worked in,
he wasn't at home,
he worked there too.
He did?
The boyfriend?
The boyfriend worked in the storage room,
in the warehouse.
Oh,
I'll tell you this,
this is why,
I can't have an office job,
is because I would,
have crushes.
Okay.
So,
we can't let you get a job,
at an office.
I would,
like I don't know,
how someone could go to work,
and not have a crush.
I think that's the reason,
some people work in an office.
So they can be crushing on people?
Yeah.
I don't know.
There's nothing else to do.
Have you ever worked in an office?
There's not too many people,
to crush on.
No,
but because you're stuck inside,
your brain starts to trick you.
It's like when you go to a school,
like when I look back,
at some of my schools,
I'm like,
no one was hot there,
but like I would,
I needed to pick someone,
from this group,
so it's like okay,
it's you,
you,
and you.
Uh-huh.
And I'm gonna fall in love,
with each of you,
this year.
And we're gonna all figure it out.
Okay,
so you're not going to the office,
which is decided.
You've been in an office,
and not had a crush on someone,
or like worked in a writer's room,
and not picked like.
Yeah,
100%.
That's why people say work wife,
work husband.
Oh yeah,
yeah,
no.
I'll be damned,
if my husband comes home,
and he's like,
oh my work wife,
uh-huh.
I'll be like,
I'm going,
I'm gonna go work there.
I'm gonna see what's going,
like you can't.
You're gonna go in there?
You can't spend,
If I had a work,
if I was at an office,
and I had a work wife,
and I was like,
oh yeah,
it's Sherry,
my work wife,
would you go come down?
And you'd be like,
what's going on here?
I would,
I would take her job.
You would?
Yeah.
What would you say to her?
I'd be like,
you're out of here.
Or I'd go,
I'd be like,
okay,
I'd go find her,
her real life husband,
and I'd be like,
hey,
let's spend nine hours together
during the day.
Here comes the Lebanese
in Naveen,
coming out.
That's crazy.
You wouldn't,
you wouldn't,
you would be threatened,
if I had a work wife.
A work wife?
Yeah,
somebody that was friends
with at work.
They're like,
oh.
No?
What,
what,
like what do you guys do?
Like you're,
you're literally talking,
connecting with someone
for nine hours every day.
No,
no,
you're working
for most of the day.
What do they do
in an office?
You're printing?
No,
you like,
well,
you walk over
and you're like,
hey,
what's going on?
Oh,
did you see,
Craig has
Girl Scout cookies.
We should probably
go buy some.
Stuff like that.
So when you go
to buy the Girl Scout cookies,
are you buying hers?
No.
No,
you're not buying hers,
but it's just like,
oh,
then it's like,
it's time for lunch.
Do you want to go down
to Pepino's?
Lunch?
Well,
yeah,
you like,
go grab lunch together.
Okay.
I'm giving you the scenario.
And then the Christmas party
happens and then everyone's
too drunk.
Like,
I don't think so.
Yeah.
That's a dangerous web.
I don't know if it's me
or if it's like other people
too.
I just,
I mean,
that's like,
it's like the classic,
like a man sleeps with his
secretary or.
Yeah,
I mean,
we're getting way off base
here.
This person wants to know
if they can have an office
crash.
Or if they should ask him
out.
Yeah,
I think you should because
like what it depends like
if it.
Well,
first of all,
what are the rules that
work?
That doesn't matter.
It does.
Just make sure that.
You've got to be ready
to when it doesn't work
out to still see that
person every day.
If you're okay with that
then go for it.
Get him fired.
Yeah.
No.
Why would you get him
fired?
Like if it didn't work
out,
you don't want to see
them.
So she's going to get
him fired.
Yeah.
Or that's a great
reason to quit and
just,
you know,
don't work there anymore.
I would take that as
like a sign.
Like if it doesn't work
out,
I'm not supposed to
work.
Okay,
don't take Naveen's
advice then.
Don't ask him out.
I think you should ask
him out because why
not?
You said like,
oh,
maybe people should
date in the same field.
Yes,
yes,
I guess it depends
what your job is.
Yeah.
Like I feel like if
you guys are working
at a restaurant,
it's like fun.
And then now she's
going to ask him out.
Is that what she's
saying?
Do you think that's
okay?
Well,
I think because you
guys are working
together,
I think he's probably
going to be too
scared to ask you
out.
Right,
right,
So I think in
certain scenarios,
women should,
oh,
maybe not ask him
out,
but like show that
you're interested,
show that you're
interested,
maybe say something
like,
hey,
I'm going down to
the McDougal's
tonight for karaoke.
Want to join me?
Yeah,
something like that.
Yeah,
like let's go down
to karaoke.
Yeah,
or like drop your
like work folder on
the floor and be
like,
oh my God,
I'm such a
klutz.
That's,
that's great.
That's a good one.
Like meet me at
the water cooler.
Yeah.
All right.
Can we pretend we
work at an office
tonight?
Yeah,
sure.
We do that every
day.
We can work at
an office.
We do?
Well,
we're here working.
This is work.
I love working
with you.
That's nice.
I like working
with you too.
I love working
with you too.
You do?
Of course.
That's so nice.
I love doing the
podcast.
I love everything
about you.
I'm really proud of
you for doing the
podcast.
Me too.
Yeah.
I do want to
start setting people
up.
Yeah.
And if you're
single.
Yeah.
And you want
to be,
you want your
video featured
on the show.
Yeah.
I want to do
that again.
That was
fun when we did
that.
You can submit
a video saying
your age,
your name,
what you're
looking for.
Tell us a little
bit about yourself
and we'll feature
it here and then
people can submit
to date you.
Amazing.
You can send it
to the email in
the description.
Why don't we do
a speed dating or
something in public?
I had that.
Remember that
vegan bakery we
went to?
Yeah.
Do you remember
it?
Yeah.
She said we could
have like a speed
dating event there.
That's great.
Yeah.
That's super fun.
Okay.
I just want to
like insert myself
into everyone's
date and be like
no.
Why don't we do
a live show at
the bourbon room
where people come
up and they go
on dates?
That would be
fun.
Yeah.
More to come.
Thank you guys
so much.
Thanks to
everybody listening
and watching.
I hope everybody's
safe out there and
thanks to our
firefighters for
fighting for us.
Thank you firefighters.
Incredible.
Thank you Van Nuys
Fire Station.
We met the other
day.
Maybe we'll go
stop there and
be like I know
everyone's been
donating goods to
you.
Yeah.
But I would love
to set you guys
up.
Bye.