Meta Chief Mark Zuckerberg testified on Wednesday in a high-stakes social media addiction trial in Los Angeles. Attorneys for the plaintiff questioned the CEO on allegations that his products targeted young people despite known harms.
NTD discussed this with Caroline Callicutt, social media manager for the National Center on Sexual Exploitation. -- 📺 Watch NTD News 24/7 on cable, broadcast, and streaming: https://www.ntd.com/watch
Joining us to discuss this further is Caroline Calicut, Social Media Manager for the National
Center on Sexual Exploitation. Caroline, thank you for joining us today. Good afternoon to you.
So this case is focused on finding out whether there was intentional disregard at MEDA for the
health of young social media users. So to what extent can these companies be blamed for the
addictive nature of social media? I think this watershed case draws to mind early tobacco
litigation. It basically comes down to whether the designers of these platforms knew that their
product is harmful, and whether they have the associations and the resources to do something
about it. That's what they're trying to prove in this case, that these platforms are addictive and
harmful by design, and that there's something MEDA could be doing about it that they're choosing not
to do to prioritize profit and engagement over protection. Okay, so Caroline, let me ask you,
from your vantage point, from your experience working at the National Center on Sexual
Exploitation, what impacts do you see from the use of social media among young people?
I think as a social media user myself, and as someone who works on social media daily,
it's easy to see the impact that social media, particularly the harmful and targeted algorithms
and ads have on young people. It's been proven with lots of statistics that young people are
negatively affected, such as their body image. Young women have more negative views of themselves
based on the algorithms that they're being pushed to on social media. Young children are just very
vulnerable, so specifically targeting them on social media will have an impact on how they
see themselves and how they interact with people online in years to come. So you said earlier,
this could be a watershed moment. What do you foresee as the impact? Could this be a turning
point? How is this going to influence how we allow online products and services to be
marketed to children? I do believe this is a watershed moment, especially if meta is held
accountable. This is just one small step in holding these big tech companies accountable
for the harms that happen on their platform. Like I mentioned, Big Tobacco, lots of other
corporations in the United States have these guardrails set up to protect people from the
potential harms of their platforms. I believe this is just one small step that we can start to hold
big tech accountable, have them make better safety protections and accountability protections
for their platforms and the people that use it. Can you just give us some tangible things that,
in your view, would actually help children? Some things that you would like to see implemented on
these platforms, like Instagram and Facebook, to protect young users? I would definitely like to
see super strong age restrictions. I think meta has the capability to do that with their
AI technology. Whether they do or not, it comes down to what they want to do with that. Super
strict age restrictions. Also, just not targeting these young people with harmful, addictive
algorithms that just keep them scrolling no matter what. I think meta needs to prioritize the
protection of these children. That's why Nekozi is particularly interested, because these platforms
also introduce the harm of exploitation and grooming online. So protecting children on
these platforms would just go a really long way in protecting them in general, online and offline.
Do you think parents play a role here? What is your view on what parents should do?
Parents definitely play a role. I mean, parents can try to impact how their kids use social media
and if they use it, but I think it comes down to both parents being held responsible and big tech
for this as well. Especially big tech, because it's their products and their platforms.
Once kids get on those platforms, parents really don't have much control over
how it's used. So that's why it comes down to this big tech, liability and accountability.
Maybe just one final thing here. Some tips you could give us, maybe to parents,
to young people. Any tips you can think of that may be useful in this circumstance?
I would suggest delay is the way. Stay off of social media if you can at a young age. Parents,
just be checking your children's social media to see what they're up to on these apps as much
as possible. Just make sure you see what they're interacting with. Do what you can. Then hopefully,
cases like this will open up a whole new door for holding big tech corporations responsible
for their end of the spectrum as well. Well, all right, Caroline. Such a pleasure to speak
with you. Very insightful comments. Thank you so much. Thank you.