Picking up right where I left off last time, it's time to start putting the "mystery" into the Mystery Mine! It's crunch time on the On18 Thunderbird mini layout, and things are starting to look more and more finished. The Mystery Mine is the dark ride finale for Thunderbird's On18 park train and in this installment, I make a good start on the interior with behind the scenes views of the painted flats, "rubber bats" and blacklight effects that will bring it to life. I figure a lot of stuff out on this one which will help me finish up the Mine in the next installment. Thunderbird is a 1950's, roadside attraction themed mini layout that I'm working on in collaboration with Gary Beatty and other modeling friends and we hope to have the whole thing finished by the end of April, 2026.
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Howdy folks, Dave here for Thunder Mesa Trains. Welcome back to the studio.
Today I want to pick up right where we left off last time,
working on the mystery mine for the ON-18 Thunderbird mini layout.
Of course, Thunderbird is the mid-1950s Route 66 roadside attraction themed layout
that I've been working on in collaboration with Gary Beatty and some other very fine model makers.
And in the next couple of months, you're going to see it getting closer and closer to being
finished. At least I hope so. And naturally, Thunderbird has to have a train ride.
So we're modeling that in ON-18. If you're not familiar with ON-18, that's 148 scale, O scale,
but 18 inch gauge, just 18 scale inches between the rails of the track. So it's very,
very small, narrow gauge. It basically runs on the same gauge track as N scale,
nine millimeter gauge. Here, let me give you a little visual aid.
Up here on the berm above Thunderbird, we have a short section of standard gauge railroad track.
And this represents the Santa Fe mainline that runs roughly parallel to Route 66 through a lot
of Arizona. So we wanted to have that represented on here. This is a beautiful bit of hand laid
Proto 48 track work that was done by our friend, Jake Johnson, who's helping out on the Thunderbird
layout. But what I love here is the juxtaposition between this standard gauge track, which most
people are used to seeing to the narrow gauge track being used by Thunderbird here. So this
is a four foot, eight and a half inches between the rails at standard gauge. And this is 18 inch
gauge here for our Thunderbird train ride. You can really, really see the difference between
standard gauge class one operations and our rinky dink little park train that we've got
running around the place. So both O scale, both 148, this is standard gauge, and this is a very,
very narrow gauge. In the comments last week, someone suggested that we place a
streamlined Santa Fe coach up here from the fifties, you know, a super chief coach on the
tracks. It's an interesting idea. And I did think about that, but unfortunately a streamlined coach
from that era is 85 feet long. And at scale here, that would be 21 and a quarter inches.
Might be a little bit overpowering for the rest of the scene. I just, I just don't think it would
fit. And so the climax of our rinky dink little train ride is what we're calling the mystery mine.
And it's this subterranean adventure that the train goes through. I think a very early home
built version of the Calico mine ride at Knott's Berry Farm. So we have the basic structure here
and it's open on this side so people can look in and see what's inside of the mystery mine.
And I showed how I built all this and did the framing in the last installment. This week,
I'd like to make a really good start on the interior, you know, start putting the mystery
into the mystery mine. Unfortunately, I also have a lot of other stuff going on this week.
So I think the best thing to do is just jump in and get started and we'll see how far we get.
But before I get too much further on this, I want to do a bunch of groundwork here
on the floor. This would almost certainly be a poured concrete slab. So I want to make it look
a little bit more like that. Of course, you can just, you know, go buy some concrete colored
paint, but I'm going to mix up my own with some of these inexpensive craft acrylics using some
of this Apple Barrel Country Gray and some Territorial Beige. A little bit more of the
gray than the beige. That should give us a pretty close approximation of a concrete color.
Concrete is always a lot more tan than people tend to think it is. You tend to think that it's gray.
Well, it is gray, but it's really a grayish tan. Not going to come all the way up to the track
because I want to ballast the track through the tunnel here next. Now with that dry, you can see
we've got a pretty good concrete color. And the next thing I want to do is measure out about a
half an inch or two scale feet from the ends of the ties on each end. I'm going to do this on both
sides of the track. And I'm going to pencil in a line here. And the lines are to help me locate
these six by six guide timbers. And I want these on here because I'm going to ballast this track
through here. And that will give a nice clean edge to the ballast as it goes through the mystery mine.
And it serves another purpose as well. This tells me the absolute guest envelope,
they would say in the theme park business, how close things can be to the passing train. I can't
put anything any closer to that. So this tells me exactly what the clearance is going to be also.
And I'm going to be using some Woodland Scenics medium gray ballast here. We're also going to be
using this when we do the parking lot because we figured that a little operation like this,
they'd probably just buy a couple of big, you know, truckloads of gravel and use it for everything. So
this works well for that. Got some in my Dixie cup right down the center. Come back and go along
the shoulders of the track as well. Not doing all of the track today, just this part that's
coming through the mine here and the approaches on each side. You can see how those guard timbers
keep the ballast from getting away from me. And I like to go back and manicure everything
with a soft brush. I'm sure I don't have any ballast up in the webbing of the rail,
up where it's going to interfere with the yields of the locomotives and the cars.
Now I've been told that you can just, you know, whack the track with a spoon and have the
vibration cause the ballast to settle down between the ties. I haven't had much luck with that
technique myself, so I still do it this way with a brush. Works fine, just takes a little patience.
Once I have that ballast all manicured the way I want it, take some 70% isopropyl alcohol
and I'll use a pipette to apply it to the ballast because I want to wet all of this down,
hold it in place until I can get some glue on there. Nice thing about using the
isopropyl alcohol is that it doesn't have any surface tension unlike water,
so it won't cause the ballast to run away when you put the liquid on there. I prefer to use a
pipette just to, you know, dribble it on a little drop at a time. If you put it in a spray bottle
it's going to, it's going to blow your ballast all over the place. At least it does mine. And
just as soon as you get all that ballast wetted down you want to come back with the diluted white
glue. You don't want to wait because that isopropyl alcohol is going to evaporate very quickly.
I'm just going to drizzle on the white glue. And this is a three-to-one mixture, this is three
parts water to one part white glue. And you know you've got the right amount of glue on there when
it starts to puddle up white like that. Okay, I'll let that dry overnight. Come back and get to work
on the mystery in the mystery mine. Not bad. Make sure the shed still fits. Perfect. Now I'll just
clean the glue off the railhead with some odorless mineral spirits. Make sure the train still runs
through here. Yeah, see that still works pretty well. Now I've been trying to figure out the
individual scenes that we're going to have inside of the mystery mine. There's not room for a whole
lot. I think we're going to have three basic scenes where the train enters right here. The
first half of this section is going to be framed like a like a mine tunnel just to kind of bring
people into the story. And then maybe sort of a bat cave right here. And then we enter into the big
underground cavern room right here. And all of this is going to be illuminated by UV light.
Now to build the interior sets I'm going to be using some of this Crescent 300 illustration
board. It's extremely easy to cut and paint and work with. At scale it's a little bit too thick
to represent the plywood flats that I'm supposed to be building here. But I think once it's all
painted up it'll look just fine. The first part I'm working on is that square timbered mine section.
I'm really taking my cues here from the Calico Mine Riot at Knott's. So the first thing I want to do
is take this piece of illustration board and paint it to look like rock. But not good rock.
You know what I mean? It's got to look like someone painted it to look like rock in their garage.
That's basically the idea here. So starting with a little bit of burnt sienna. This is a dark ride
so we want it to be dark. I'm going to stipple on some burnt umber. Give it kind of a rocky texture.
Mix in a little bit of that raw sienna. Keep stippling. Now mix that burnt umber with some
black and come back with a smaller brush. Add some really obvious looking cracks here in the rock
wall. Now come back with that raw sienna once again. Use it straight out of the tube and I'm
adding some highlights just to the right side and the bottom edge of these rocks or boulders or
whatever. So it looks like they're catching light. Maybe someone working at Thunderbird is at a
little bit of training in theatrical flats. Now I want to take some Vallejo gold and add a really
obvious looking vein of ore running through the rock here. Starting over here and going down
on this side. Then for the actual mine timbers I've got some 6x12s. I'm staining those with my
Rejuvenate Furniture Repair markers. Medium gray. Measure halfway between these
and put the last one there. Now flip this over. Color the back with some Minwax Early American.
Remember these are supposed to be plywood flats. This part's not really going to show
so I'm not going to put a lot of detail into it but I wanted to get some color on there.
Now I want to add a little framing to the back side with some 3x6 braces and I've got some 6x6
feet to help it stand up. And a 45 degree angle brace also cut from 6x6. Make it nice and sturdy.
And there is our first set piece ready to be installed in the Mystery Mine. Now this should fit
in here. I've been weighing the pros and cons of this and in the final analysis I think it's
going to be better to build the rest of all this in place. That is glue the shed down to the layout
and build everything right here. So I think that's what we're going to do. I may regret it later
but I'm having a hard time seeing how to move forward without doing that. So
that's what we're going to do. So that means before I do anything else on the interior I
need to finish this man door over here on this side. That's pretty easy. This is a very basic
door. Just cut a piece of illustration board to fit the opening. I'm going to add some wood grain
with my razor saw and then paint it to look like aged wood with my watercolors. Using my
usual mixture of burnt sienna and cobalt blue to make a nice silvery gray which should match
this stain really well. And I'll go back over that again. Add some lines to enhance the grain.
And I'll paint all the edges too. The interior side is not really going to show so
stain markers on that. Measure up about three, three and a half scale feet from the bottom.
Drill a hole through here and have a doorknob. These pico track nails work really well for that.
Hold that in place with some cyanoacrylate. Reinforced kick with a little baking soda
and just snip that off. I'll add a sign to keep curious tourists from
wandering where they don't belong. And I can glue that into the opening.
Now I'll just trim that out with some one by fours. This door is located over behind the
teepees in the Indian village so I guess this would sort of be the emergency exit
from a ride if it should break down in the tunnel. Okay now I can finish working on the inside.
I may regret this but I'm going to glue this down with a few spots of Eileen's.
Making sure I get it in just exactly the right spot. I can glue this in. The next set piece I
want to add is the mirror image of this on this side of the track but it's going to be visible
from the back side so that requires a little bit of creative engineering. Now if I were to build
this as a true mirror image of the piece I just made well then you wouldn't be able to see inside
the tunnel. So my solution is I'm going to cut part of it out so you'll be able to see the backs
of the plywood flats but you'll still be able to see through it also. This side faces the track,
this side faces the viewer. I'll just cut this in a rocky profile. It sort of matches what I painted
on the other side so it'll be like you're looking in there through those painted rocks.
There we go. So you'll look through from this side and I want the good side of the illustration
board facing out towards the viewer because I'm going to paint it to look like sheets of plywood
with my watercolors. I considered using that thin model airplane plywood for this
because hey you know it already looks like plywood. It is plywood but I decided to use
this illustration board instead because it's basically just easier to work with.
So I'm going to use basically the same trick for all of the set pieces which are on the viewer side
so you can see through them and see to the the interior of the mine and the trick to
you know doing this faux plywood painting is really just to keep going over it and adding
lots of little lines, lots of grain. Watercolor is very forgiving. So now I've painted the rocks
on this side and added those 6x12 mine timbers. Now I want to frame all of this in like it's a
flat. I'm using some 3x6 for this and I'm staining it with the light gray to make it look like it's
lumber that didn't come from the lumber yard that long ago and realistically this probably would
have been done with 2x4s but I'm over building the whole thing a little bit to make it
chunkier looking. Next I'll add the upright braces and these are purely cosmetic but
I've got a couple more braces horizontally across here. A detail I always see on these
theatrical flats is they have these corner gussets which are usually made out of plywood.
I'm going to make some out of bristol board. I just finished coloring it with a little bit
Minwax Early American and cut some little triangles out of this.
Put a little glue on the backs of these and for these central uprights just take one of these
triangles put it on this way and then these horizontal pieces just get these little straight
cleats like this. Then I'll use my nail hole tool to add some nail holes and this is just a
track nail and a pin vise. Works really well for this. Now I want a little writing on the back
like you know notations when they were putting the whole thing together.
I've got a red colored pencil. Presumably the other side would be scene 1A. Top up here.
Just the kind of things you see written on the back of these flats. I mentioned earlier that
the interior of the Mystery Mine is going to be lit with UV light. Black light. And I've got some
nice three millimeter UV LEDs over here that I'm going to use. But for this first scene this is
actually a transition between the bright you know sunny outdoors to the dark part of the mine. So
in this part I want to have the flickering lantern light. So I've got a three millimeter
yellow flickering LED that I'm going to install in this part of the wall here. So I've got some
quarter inch black plastic tubing which I'm going to use to make the light fixtures. I'm going to
cut off a piece that's about oh let's see one two three five eighths of an inch long. And so
the LED is going to fit inside of this and I'll use this to direct the light. By the way I get
these LEDs online from a company called Lighthouse LEDs. They're all pre-wired with resistors that I
need. They're all ready to go. Saves a little bit of time. Now I need to cut a hole through my flat.
Now I can feed these wires through here. That plastic tubing a nice press fit into that hole.
Now I'm using a five minute epoxy to glue this tubing in here from the back. Just putting the
glue on the tubing and not on the LED. Let that set up for a few minutes probably more than five.
Now with that epoxy all set up I'm building a gray electrical box to hide all of this in. The
cables are going to be visible. Usually I try to hide the wires in these models but this time
I want the cables to be visible behind the scenes so you can see the power going to the
different light fixtures and things. I'll be either replacing this yellow wire or painting it black so
all of the cables will be black. And for my electrical box once again I'm using the same
illustration board just cutting it to size for the pieces that I need and then painting that with
granite gray. I've got a good looking warning label from my scrap box that I can put on here
to keep people from getting electrocuted. Now I use my watercolors to add some dirt and grime
and rust to this using different mixtures of the cobalt blue and burnt sienna. I'm dabbing it on
and then swirling it around. Now it looks like it's been there a while. Straight burnt sienna
right out of the tube is great for adding little rust spots and things. Now I can add the six by
six feet like I did on the other side and then these angled braces. I'm going to run the cable
right through the braces just like you would in real life. Keep them out of the way. And I
believe that is now ready to install. Let's see. Not a bad fit. Now I want to finish this first
scene off by framing in the roof of the mine tunnel. Also the idea here is this is one of
those scenes the train comes through this very narrow space and then it opens up and you get
this big reveal on the other side. At least that's the way I'm planning it. Now I've painted a piece
of illustration board for the ceiling to match the over-exaggerated rock walls. Just slide this
into place. I've hooked up a nine volt battery to the wires here so you can see the effect.
So I've added another small flat right here that angles back towards the main wall and this
provides an access point for backstage and for that side door. And I figured that in a place
like this they would probably just have a black curtain there. So that's what I did. I took a
piece of black cotton cloth and glued it on the back and stiffened it with some diluted white glue
because this is where the scene kind of opens up into what's going to be the bat cave. And that's
what I want to work on next. And the first piece I want to build for that is basically going to go
up against this framework right here. Now I have a piece of illustration board cut to fit here and
right now I'm figuring out the maximum and minimum clearances. Maximum for the the framing
of the wall and minimum for the tightest possible space that the train can fit through because this
is going to be a rough opening unlike the mine tunnel it's going to be more like a cave entrance.
And now I can sketch in the the rough shape I want to cut out based on those measurements.
Something like that. There. Now before I paint this I'll test it with the train to make sure
everything fits. The idea here now is that we're headed back into a deeper darker part of the mine
so I painted the the good side of the illustration board flat black and used my wood stain markers
on the back here and just indicated you know old brush strokes around the edges there like it was
hand painted. I'm going to change up the palette a little bit. I'm going to start by stippling on
some of this burnt umber over on the right side and it's going to transition into blue
over on this side. Next I'll bring in some of this light blue and mix it with a little bit of
that ultramarine and we use that color to define the edges of some of these rock shapes where
where the light whatever light there is down there would be hitting them. It's always really
important with something like this doing any kind of backdrop painting or faux painting or whatever
to choose a light source and stick with it. In this case I've chosen you know high and to the
left so whatever light there is is coming down this way. Now this can be glued into place
and up against those studs. I've added another little scenery flat up here hanging from the
rafters and I'll continue to add little bits and pieces like that as I develop the scene
but right now I'm getting ready to add the first real black light effect so I need to mount a
three millimeter ultraviolet led to the roof trusses up here. So once again I've inserted
the led into a length of this black plastic tubing to act as sort of a lighting fixture
and I've got a piece of heavy duty 3m industrial strength foam tape on the back
should be more than enough to hold it. Now I just need to position it here pointing down
into this corner this section of the back wall. I want to get the light in place because then
that's going to help me to position the scene elements. Now I have a panel that I painted just
straight flat black and I've got some orange black light paint some yellow orange it says
actually but it looks just pretty orange to me and use some of that applied with a toothpick
and what I want to do here is create the look of eyes peering out of the darkness.
Take my toothpick and put two little dots close together like that in pairs and then when this
is installed I'm going to add cutout flats around it so it looks like you're looking
back into this little antechamber and there are things in there looking back at you. Presumably
bats or maybe something more sinister who knows. Now when these dry against the black they're
almost invisible but they should show up well into the UV light. Now I have it glued in against
the back wall. I can test it out here with my nine volt battery. Oh yeah that works.
Now I have the rest of the set pieces in on this side. You can see I layered it so we've got a
piece here and a piece back here and then that black piece with the eyes on it. Oh I love it
it's like a magic trick. So here's that next set piece for the viewer's side. So remember we're
viewing it from the back we're backstage here and as you can see I've decided to add some bats.
They're very tiny but I designed these and cut them out on the laser using some black polyback
which is a kind of a plastic reinforced paper and now I'm installing them on short lengths of music
wire. Before I cut them off the sheet I've got a number 72 bit in my pin vise a hole right through
the middle of them and I can take and bend the wings up a little bit or down. So I want to cut
a piece of this music wire put a dab of CA on one end and stick that into the hole I just drilled.
Bat skewers. Now I want to drill a hole down through this board to receive that music wire.
Actually better if I don't go all the way through. A dab of CA there and install our bat.
And as soon as that CA is set up I'll touch this up a little bit paint that wire with some flat black
that's not shiny. There we go. Bats. That needs to go. Okay I've finished up this section by adding
one more flat here with some cavern style holes to look through so you can see the interior.
I've also finished adding all of the roof trusses here and the main ridge pole. Added some temporary
connections here so that I can hook this up to the layout's 9 volt DC system and test all of the
lighting together make sure everything's working properly. And last but not least a little temporary
roof out of some cardboard so uh give us an idea of what it'll look like when it's all finished
and there's less light coming in from the top. All right let's turn everything on. Oh I love it
when a plan comes together. Not that I really had much of a plan I've been making this whole thing
up as I go along and now I can see by the clock on the wall that we're about out of time so this is
probably a good place to wrap it up for this week. And to be honest this has taken a lot longer than
I expected it to. It seems like a pretty simple and straightforward project but once you get into
it you realize that it's actually a lot more work to show those behind the scenes views than it
would be to just build the dang scene. And there was a lot of off-camera trial and error with this
that I don't want to inflict on you guys. Most of the time I prefer it to at least look like I know
what I'm doing. So now it looks like I'll be coming back with a part three of the mystery mine
and in that one I'll be finishing up the big cavern scene over here now that I know how to
do it. And then I want to build the approach tunnels on each side with the 1950s vintage faux
rock work that should be pretty fun. And then there's a lot of little details to add you know
cans of paint misplaced tools all the kinds of things that you'd find backstage. And of course
the roof needs to be finished. So yeah there's more stuff to do. So I'll be back next time
with another installment of the mystery mine. And until then I want to thank you all for watching
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