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I was actually quite pleased to see a boring 1-0 victory.
You want to see some determined performances.
He couldn't even control the ball.
He's got every right to be discontented.
Things have been bad under the glaciers.
If you haven't got a Manchester United team in a decent stadium,
what is the point of having, like Tottenham, having a venue?
Why sell him?
Paul, you've got your opinions on Garnaccio.
If someone's going to come in and pay silly money, you sell him.
I think it's laughable.
I'll go as far as saying it's laughable.
The sort of beauty parade that he's going on.
You know, doing an interview and saying that you essentially want out,
it seems a bit reckless.
And he's let himself down.
He needs to wake up.
I think he's still going to be a Manchester United player
coming on the clock on Monday night.
If he stays, should that happen?
If he ain't going to change his ways, you're not going to have to send him away.
Hello and welcome to Inside Devil's Talk Sports main night show,
bringing you the latest news and reaction coming out of Old Trafford.
What a week it has been for the Red Devils.
A late 2-1 win at home against Rangers
was followed up by a victory at Craven Cottage on Sunday night.
And there's still plenty of work to do under Ruben Almiran.
But we're going in the right direction.
That is all we can ask for.
Going in the right direction and getting wins under our belt.
Joining me is, of course, Alex Crook and Angelina Kelly.
And a warm welcome to the show for Manchester United full-back Paul Parker.
He's two-time Premier League winner as well.
Welcome to Inside Devil's Talk.
Thank you very much.
Now let's turn our attention to Sunday night's game at Fulham.
A late Lissandro Martinez strike ensured all three points were sent back to Old Trafford.
Moving us up to 12th.
Yeah, mid-table, we are coming for you in the Premier League.
Paul, you played for both clubs.
What did you think of the game?
I mean, at this point, when we need wins, we need results more than anything.
It's important to get three points.
But a lot of people were talking about
how bad we were for large parts of the game as an attacking force.
Well, it just boils down to now the levels that United are.
They've gone to that kind of, those kind of words which I hate people saying
because it's just such a cop-out.
But a win is a win.
That's how it's got to where United are at this moment in time.
They are at that level.
And going to Fulham, which is, normally you think there's always something there
for United when they go there.
But they're good games.
And did United drag Fulham down to their levels?
Because it wasn't a great Fulham performance either.
Yeah, they didn't really test them on it.
They didn't really have a go.
And as I've said, I mean, I've mentioned earlier,
is that United's weakness is pace, pace and energy.
And every time when you're seeing them disappoint this season
is when they've been overrun by average teams.
Simple as that.
And it's happened far too many times over the years,
but more so this season.
It's been seen and found out.
Fulham never used it.
And Fulham just fell into that trap of a team that overplayed
and didn't achieve anything.
So coming out of the game with a 1-0 win with a deflected goal
is an absolute bonus, but not one you're going to talk about for too long.
Yeah, exactly.
And I mean, you're looking at the level of performance like that.
Paul said it wasn't great, but it's about the three points.
Is that where it's most important for us now?
Because the level of performance with the lack of players
that suit Amarim's style, the dross that's gone on before he's got there,
the things going on in the dressing room, Man United, all of that stuff, right?
Yeah.
It's more important to just win games and ease that pressure
because when you're losing, losing, losing, losing every week,
we saw what type of pressure was for Ruben Amarim.
Yeah, definitely.
I think at this point, you have to accept what we're dealing with.
And it is a win is a win.
You don't like to say that.
You don't want to see poor performances.
You don't want to sit through 75 minutes of thinking,
what am I even watching?
But this is the situation that we're in.
We need points.
And however we get those points, it doesn't really matter at this point.
I said point a lot there, didn't I?
But yeah, you just have to, sometimes you do have to grind these results out.
I agree.
Maybe it was kind of bringing Fulham down to our level
because I expected more from a team that, you know, have beaten Chelsea,
you know, have taken points from Arsenal, from Liverpool.
I did expect more.
They had the chances maybe the first 15 minutes
and obviously didn't capitalise on it.
But yeah, I allowed myself to kind of celebrate it
and just take it for what it was.
Yeah.
I mean, Krooky, the away end was absolutely bouncing.
You know, the support from Man United was very loud,
making their voices heard.
Are the players starting to show passion and respect back to the faithful now?
You know, you look at Cassandra Martin talking after the game,
the response that they're showing after the game
to connect with the fans, especially the match-going fans.
Well, listen, I'm not going to over-egg it too much with this team
because the next catastrophe, the next disaster is only ever around the corner.
But I was actually quite pleased to, you know, see a boring 1-0 victory
because it's been too much of a roller coaster, isn't it?
That's our Hampton game when we made probably the worst team
the Premier League's ever seen.
Like Real Madrid for 80 minutes, Rangers giving them a late equaliser.
You thought, well, this is a problem.
And they go and get the winner at the other end,
which is a brilliant moment.
But actually, you want to see some dogged, determined performances.
And there were players who stepped up.
I thought Bruno Fernandes showed his leadership skills.
I thought Harry Maguire probably was United's best player,
having made a real calamitous error towards the end of that Rangers game.
So you can see it as a sign of progress,
the ability to go away from home against a good Fulham side
who've pulled up many trees this season
and to be able to see out the victory.
But it was no more than that.
You know, I'm not going to say this is a huge corner turn
because let's see what happens on Thursday night.
Absolutely.
We definitely can't say that.
I mean, after the last Premier League game, like you said,
well, against Brighton, we had to bounce back with a win.
So we can't get carried away.
Paul, I wanted to talk about some more positives, really,
from winning the game.
But young Toby Collier, you know,
he's getting a little bit of an opportunity under Ruben Amirim now.
Casemiro completely overlooked now.
So that shows what Ruben Amirim thinks about pecking order in midfield.
But, you know, a goal line clearance,
which is, you know, a match-saving action from him.
Lissandro Martinez went on to talk about how humble he is.
He's really happy for this kid because he's just working hard,
getting his head down and doing what he needs to do.
And he's being rewarded.
He seems like a real good character for such a young age.
But more importantly,
he's looking like he can have a say in this main line midfield.
Well, what he does add, he does add a little bit of pace and energy,
which they haven't got.
If you're looking for real energy in that midfield,
the only one you've got in there,
even though it's a little bit ill-disciplined, would be Fernandes.
But Toby's come in and he's just got a little bit of a presence about him.
He plays in a no-fuss way.
He can move with the ball quick in the menu,
even though I think Kobe's a good player and he's going to be a good player.
But the manager's trying at the moment,
he's trying to win games, or I should say, trying to remain unbeaten.
I think if we look at it that way.
And Toby coming in, his stature's good as well.
He's brave.
And as we've seen, he senses a bit of danger, the goal line clearance.
That's going to be with him.
Commentators will mention it in his next appearance.
That'll be mentioned again.
So he's put him up there in a position now where,
because he plays for Manchester United,
people will be looking to take shots at him.
So that will test him as well over these next few games as well,
how he carries on from there.
And that'll be a test for him as a Manchester United player,
given the scenario as well.
It's even tougher.
But I like what I see in him.
There's a reason why the manager's playing him.
I get that as well.
So I still think he's got to go even,
maybe go a little further into those young lads down there,
maybe use them.
If nothing's going to come in this window,
but we may find out later from Alex.
He's got something for us, he's got to.
But if nothing's going to come in,
then I think he might have to go and look in there,
and he might have to go and find someone
who can maybe play through the middle, up front.
Just somebody who's going to run him behind with purpose.
And if it means a young player coming in,
maybe that little touch early,
you never know what might become with that young player.
Well, we've got Tito Obi-Martin from Arsenal,
and I've seen a lot of fans saying,
how bad can it be for yourself?
I mean, you've been in many dressing rooms,
you've played with some of the best.
When do you start looking to somebody who,
maybe they might not be ready,
does it do more damage than good if you put them in too early,
in a volatile team like Man Utd that's got a lot of issues?
Or do you go down the route of,
how bad can it get?
Your senior strikers aren't doing anything,
they're younger themselves,
but throw the kid in.
Well, when I was talking about it before,
it was always because United were always in a better place.
And when I turned up at United,
there was a young player,
young skinny kid from Salford,
it was Ryan Giggs.
And he got his game at the back end of the 1991 season.
So when I arrived, Ryan was out.
But then the team was in a good place,
they're just coming off the back of the Cup,
Winners' Cup.
And then there was younger,
then you talk about 93-ish,
there was young players coming through,
those lads,
those ones they keep talking about for some reason.
They come in,
but the thing was as well,
it was an established team,
it was a team that was in a good place,
playing good football,
with good pros.
Exactly.
Which were going to help them,
there was no jealousy or anything,
nothing like that at all.
These were,
because we just wanted to win games,
and win medals,
and win trophies.
So do you think that could be an issue,
in the modern day now,
if you're looking at someone like,
let's say Chido Obi Martin,
to say,
Rasmus is not quite doing it,
he's actually struggling.
You're saying to Amin,
maybe look at that,
but how do you manage that dynamic
of the things you're talking about?
Because man, you're like,
don't let that do that.
Everything has to be right in there,
for a young player.
You don't want experienced players,
older players,
who have got issues with the manager,
with the coach,
and them kind of being in and around a young player.
Because they don't know the mentality of a young player,
so he could kind of think,
oh my god,
you know,
he could feel under pressure,
before he gets in the park.
There could be that good player,
who's dead pan.
He doesn't,
ain't phased by it,
like a Ryan Giggs would be anyway.
He wouldn't have bothered Ryan,
if there was big problems.
Ryan would have gone out,
and just played for Ryan Giggs.
But he was in a good,
when he come in,
good lads.
He had a great captain there as well,
and Brian Robson,
who would have fended all the bad eggs off,
and said,
oi.
So,
what do you do?
But given the moment,
when you're in the position,
where Amorim's in at the,
only he knows,
if it's right.
And he must know the character,
of that young player to bring him in.
And,
when you talk about a centre forward,
and looking at this lad,
and his goal record,
and scoring goals.
I would say,
he's a,
he's a bit selfish.
So for me to put him in,
I don't think it's going to bother him.
Rasmus Hoyland's received,
a lot of criticism at the minute.
A lot of spotlight for,
a real tough night at Craven Cottage really.
Could have been hooked at halftime.
Played a little bit longer than that crooky.
But,
what have you made of Rasmus,
since he's come here?
How much of it is,
like what Paul's saying?
He's a young striker himself.
Not very experienced.
Nobody to learn off.
Versus,
you're still playing for Man United.
Your own personal attributes,
how good are they?
Yeah listen,
I don't think it's for the want to try,
and you know,
I don't think you can question Hoyland's commitment,
or the heart and desire.
But,
I think you can now question his capabilities.
I think he's regressed to me,
this season.
No goals in his last 11 league games.
Only two Premier League goals,
all season.
That,
isn't good enough.
A, for a Manchester United striker.
And B,
for someone who's cost 72 million quid.
Now the transfer fee isn't his fault.
And again,
it's a case of United paying over the odds,
for somebody who really wasn't,
that sought after,
by rival clubs.
And I've written about it in my,
notebook on the TalkSport website today.
I feel like Rasmus Hoyland is almost on trial now,
for the rest of the season.
Because I'm not sure that,
Ruben Amorim is convinced either by him or,
Joshua Xerxe.
I think a new number nine is going to be top of the,
the shopping list come the summer.
There are teams in Italy,
who would take him back.
Obviously he's proven in,
in Serie A.
So,
I think he's going to have to improve tenfold,
in order to convince people,
that he is going to be that Manchester United number nine.
He's been here two years now.
He's still a young player.
But this is his second season.
And I think you would like to have seen more progression.
And where do you stand on,
this, I don't want to say attribute of blame.
This, but this,
sort of breakdown.
This analysis of Rasmus Hoyland.
If we're talking about his time here.
How much more does he need to improve as an individual,
versus the team doesn't help him.
Because we talk about systems.
We talk about,
he doesn't get enough chances.
We talk about,
who's he learning off.
But now,
it seems the spotlight is pivoting to,
like what Krooky's basically saying.
How good or bad he actually is as an individual.
It's more than just,
scoring goals though isn't it?
You know, in this system,
you got two number tens.
You got the wing backs you want to bomb on.
The job of the number nine,
if you're not scoring goals,
is to hold the ball up,
and bring other people into play.
Yeah.
He isn't doing it.
It's bouncing off him.
It's not sticking.
Yeah.
There were a couple of situations,
in that Fulham game,
where he couldn't even control the ball.
His touch was awful,
and it's sad to see.
But, you have to look at,
you know, the bottom half of the table.
You look at,
you know, number nines or goal scorers.
Like, he's not even close with his numbers.
He's got two Premier League goals.
That's the same as someone like,
Cameron Archer for Southampton.
That's the kind of level he's at.
Even Wolves for their issues,
Ipswich for their issues,
they still have somebody that can score goals.
And you can complain about the lack of service,
and I understand that.
But there are stats,
you know,
comparing him and Joshua Xherxey,
that Xherxey is taking double the amount of chances.
So they're getting the same kind of service,
but Xherxey is actually able to capitalise on it more.
And he's had way more criticism.
I mean,
yeah, he's taking exactly double the amount of shots
than Hoyland per 90 minutes.
And more on target.
That's somebody who has been,
and I'm not Xherxey's biggest fan,
but that's somebody who is new to the club,
has had a bit of a torrid time.
So I would agree with Kruky,
that he has definitely regressed.
And I would be surprised if he manages to convince Ruben Amrine
by the end of this season.
Yeah, no, I agree.
I mean, for me, before we move on,
I just feel like as a striker,
at any level,
any competent level,
your bread and butter
is you should be able to have a nice touch,
just bring the ball down,
bring people into play.
If you're not getting chances,
you're not getting a look at the goal,
it's a team thing,
it's a system thing.
How my playing style versus the manager and the team,
how do we sort that?
But especially when you're in a bad team,
the team needs to have an outlet to be able to say,
can we give it to our striker just to relieve some pressure?
Can we get them turned
and know when to run far,
know when to come near,
know when to come off into the pockets and link up,
know when to take one touch,
know when to take two.
Like, he just doesn't have a feel for the game
and I'm not seeing enough improvement in that area.
So Rasmus has got a lot to do,
but I think it's coming down to,
I just don't think he's going to be good enough
if I'm being honest.
But it's still early
and I think that thing about on trial,
I really agree with that.
Just from off the pitch,
Paul, we did see some fans confront Sir Jim Ratcliffe
wanting to pose for a picture first
and then saying we don't want to pose for a picture
and had some unsavory words to talk about,
you know, the ticket prices
and really put it on to Jim Ratcliffe.
Away from the mode of which it was done,
in terms of the sentiment,
what did you make about fans,
you know, doing that to Sir Jim Ratcliffe
and fans discontented?
They've got every right to be discontented
because it's not what they're expecting.
Things have been bad under the glaciers,
but he's gone now and he seems to,
he's laying off people
and he's laying off people at the wrong end of the scale.
People down there.
Then all of a sudden,
he's talking about the players,
the ambassadors, about them
and they do a hell of a lot of travelling for Manchester United.
People think it's easy,
but yes, it's comfortable.
They're not, you know,
they're not doing,
you know, they're not hardline what they're doing,
but they're still having to give up a lot of time
and they are being paid for it,
but then to bring them up and get them involved,
it seems to be going about it the wrong way.
But then to talk about the pricing
and then you're seeing the,
you're seeing then all of a sudden,
the next bit is talking about,
oh, well, we've got maybe issues with the PSR
and it could affect your things of old,
I mean, as a fan,
you're going, well, that wasn't my fault
that you've gone and paid over the odds
for these players.
It's you, you haven't done your job.
So why, you know, why should we expect it?
But as long as the fans have gone to him
and they've been respectful,
but they've got a right to say something to him
and he has to think about what his next move,
what he's going to do.
He cannot make this all be about a new stadium.
He cannot turn it to that
because as far as I'm concerned,
if you haven't got a Manchester United team
in a decent stadium
that is effectively contesting
every single trophy available,
what is the point of having,
like Tottenham, having a venue?
Because it's not a stadium they want,
he wants a venue.
And for me, that's not football anymore.
And for you, I mean, a lot of criticism
towards Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Ineos
since they've come in in this first year.
Of course, we don't expect them to sort out
all the mishaps from the Glazers
over the last, what, 18, 19 years
since they've been here in one year.
But they have to accept that, you know,
certain decisions they're making,
it's appearing that they're complicit
in some of this damage.
Yeah, I mean, I touched on it last week.
The Glazers are probably laughing
because Sir Jim Ratcliffe,
the spotlight is on him now
and a lot of this is still down to the Glazers,
100%.
He, the way that this man has come in
and with this narrative of,
I'm a Manchester guy,
I grew up on a councillor's day,
I understand what it's like,
and then to completely go against that,
to do an interview with a fanzine
praising the Glazers,
saying that they're good people.
I've spoke about it before,
you know, the way that he's completely
and utterly disrespected the women's team,
who are second in the WSL, might I add.
And you then are treating fans
the way that you're treating them.
The stewards, you know, you're robbing,
what was it?
£50, £100 steward of the week.
You're robbing that from people.
The amount of time it would take
for that money to even make a dent,
even putting these ticket prices up,
I think it was forecast to bring in
£1.5 million this season,
which is Casemiro's wages for a month.
Focus on moving players on like that,
focus on things like that,
but, you know, you're completely right.
Why are fans having to suffer
for these, you know, powerful people
that are making horrendous decisions?
It's not fair.
Yeah, exactly that, guys.
And let us know how you feel
about Ineos and some of the decisions
that they've taken up
since arriving at the football club.
Now, after a positive result of Craven Cottage,
it's time for the long-awaited return
of Ryan Statman Douglas.
Thank you for keeping the seat warm for me.
Entering vibes last week.
That was good.
I like it.
Little tag team there.
Yeah, it was.
We've done all right, didn't we, between us?
We're doing all right.
You know what? Life comes at you fast.
One day, you're in the hot seat
and then you don't get a seat.
That's just how it is.
But look, I'm back
and I'm going to break down
the Fulham Manchester United game.
What have you got for us?
Because it's a win.
It's two wins.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
In a row.
I know we're not doing the Rangers game,
but it's back to back.
We always say you're not allowed back
unless you come back with positive stuff.
Yeah, and I've got some positivity here.
So let's start with some positivity.
It's not all positive,
but let's start with some positivity,
which is Man Utd have won
each of the last eight Premier League away games
against Fulham.
We enjoy it there.
It is our stomping ground.
And when we double down on that tonight,
sorry, the win on the weekend,
which is the third in London
across 20 games
and all three of those wins
were against Fulham.
So it's just, we enjoy going there.
Now, there's a few things that I like to do
and I'm reading into this stat.
Is it a case of,
and I'll throw over to you, Crooky,
is it a case of
we couldn't have had a better fixture
come our way?
Is that basically how it is on paper?
I don't know about that.
I think Fulham have proved themselves
to be a good side this season.
I was at Stamford Bridge
when they beat Chelsea.
Obviously, they've got a good recent record
of denying Arsenal points as well.
So I thought it was a tough game.
I predicted United to lose.
I was pleasantly surprised.
Maybe Fulham not quite at their best
and Paul's already mentioned that
perhaps they sunk down to our level.
But yeah, I think this was a difficult game
to navigate and
I think it's a really positive three points.
Three points closer to the magic 40 points
and there's a bit of daylight now
between United and the Renegades.
Stay on task, Crooky.
Absolutely.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it wasn't a classic, was it?
Paul, I'll throw over to you.
I mean, we've not looked good at Old Trafford.
We picked up an away win there.
What games are you looking forward to seeing?
A game at home or a game away?
How are you reading that?
At this moment in time,
I would say games away from home.
That's where they're better performances.
They get a better collective performance
as a team away from home.
There's too much pressure
for a few of those players.
They're not handling the situation
well at Old Trafford.
And it takes a certain kind of player
just to be able to play there
with any confidence and belief.
But then to play as well in a team
that's not playing well,
it takes a really serious character
to be able to get through.
At the moment in time,
the one player who's guaranteed to turn up
is Fernandes in that sense
if you're talking about
somebody who can brush things off.
I'm not going to say he's
everything right and wonderful,
but he's the one who stands up.
He's the one who wants to prove a point
as we saw with the way he was at Rangers.
That goal, you know,
the winning goal against Rangers.
He's the one you go to.
I couldn't agree more.
You preached to the choir about Fernandes.
Big fan of his.
Let's move on to the next stat.
A bit more positivity here.
Manchester, well, again,
it depends on how you want to read into this,
but Manchester United
are one of just four Premier League sides
who are yet to lose a game
in all competitions this season as well,
all comps, when they're 1-0 up.
That's brilliant.
That really shocked me.
I mean, and they're in good company as well,
by the way.
It's Liverpool, Arsenal, Newcastle
are the other three sides.
So they're in good company with that.
So they'll go 1-0 up.
They don't throw it away.
Now, there's two ways of looking into it
and I'll go to you about this, Flex.
So is it a sign of they lose confidence
if they concede first?
Or is it a sign of
they go 1-0 up
and they're fantastic defensively
and we can see a game out?
How do you read that?
Definitely, definitely the first one.
Yeah.
Because you listen to when Ruben Amreim's,
you know, give an analysis about us
and talking about the moments,
like conceding really early goals.
I mean, look what we did against Brighton.
Look what we did against Forrest.
Look what we did against...
There was another loss in there.
Who was the other one at home?
Newcastle.
It's kicking off within four minutes,
you've conceded.
Yeah.
So anything you've worked on,
which is actually limited,
which he's saying we don't have much training time.
So whatever little we did work on,
with the mentality,
with the structure of the team,
with being brave with the ball,
you concede within three or four minutes.
That's it.
You're on the back foot.
And like Paul says about the character,
to go and play under those circumstances
when you conceded first,
it's fragile.
And then all of a sudden,
players start getting in their heads.
They don't want to take the ball.
You don't want to take a risk with the ball.
And Ruben spoke about us,
when we go down a goal,
us trying to fix it immediately,
not remaining calm.
Then you go and concede another one,
which actually in the Brighton game
was a little bit of a contrast
because we conceded early.
But actually what we did do well was
get the ball down,
start playing a little bit,
manage to get the penalty,
get back into the game.
Then it was a 50-50 game.
And then you make mistakes after that again,
and you're back to square one.
So it also shows with the league table
where we are,
we're keeping company with Liverpool Arsenal
and Newcastle in terms of going 1-0 up,
but we're 14th or 13th
or wherever we are now.
Exactly.
So it also shows the deficiencies
and confidence when you do concede.
Yeah, you brought that down beautifully.
Ange, can you draw any positives
from this stat?
I mean, are the defence being underestimated?
I mean, when you look at the defence,
it was better against Fulham,
definitely.
But we don't have,
you know, I've said it before,
we don't have a defence
that is going to take you
to win a Premier League title.
This is a defence that are okay at the moment,
but do not have the quality that is needed.
You look at somebody like Harry Maguire,
he was horrendous against Rangers.
And yeah, maybe, you know,
he tried to redeem himself a little bit
in that Fulham game.
Like I say, the defence overall were good,
but it's not good enough,
is the bottom line.
So I think the defence hasn't been horrendous
in adapting to this back three
or back five, whatever you want to call it.
But it's not the Premier League.
I think it's because it's easier for them as well.
You've got an extra defender in there.
Yeah.
Half of the time,
we're in that sort of U-shape
from right wing-back all the way through
to left wing-back.
And we spend a lot of time passing it
across the back line.
So when we were getting 60% possession and stuff,
teams are going,
no problem here.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
And believe it or not,
those are the positive stats.
So let's get slightly more negative here
and let's discuss it, shall we?
Next slide, please.
So 68% of Manchester United's Premier League goals
this season have come in the second half
with only Leicester scoring a higher ratio,
by the way, 72%.
So again, we talk about being in good company
in the last half.
Not so much good company in this one
with all due respect to Leicester,
who got a good result on the weekend, by the way.
Now, Paul, I'll throw over to you here.
What does this show?
What does it show?
Does it show a lack of quality in the attack?
It just shows that going from that early one,
it's about going behind and chasing.
And as we watch,
you'll see that they'll have a lot of the ball
in midfield.
It goes to the front
and it comes straight back.
So they're constantly under pressure.
The defence cannot deal with the teams
that move quickly beyond them.
So they're always likely to concede.
And that's one of my reasoning behind that,
to be perfectly honest,
because the ball's not being held up long enough.
The ball retention's not good enough
in the attacking third as well.
And they've got a big, big problem
that once a team gets over that halfway line
and into defensive third,
they can't keep the ball out the net.
I know, it's sad, isn't it?
Crookie, why does it take so long
for United to get going?
Is it tactics?
Is it mentality?
What do you think?
I think there's been a little bit of fear factor
in first halves at times this season.
We saw that at the Etihad in particular,
when obviously they were behind against Manchester City.
A bit too respectful, maybe, in that first half.
Whatever Ruben Amorim said at halftime
clearly did the trick.
Against Southampton, they were just dreadful,
not just for the first half,
but for the majority of the second
until they finally sparked into life.
So I do think there's a nervousness
and anxiety about this team.
Ruben's alluded to that himself.
Particularly at home, actually,
with the pressure of that old traffic crowd,
I think really weighs heavily on the shoulders.
I think actually, away from home,
first priority, keep a clean sheet in the first half
as they did against Fulham,
and then go and try and win it in the second half.
So away from home,
I don't think that stat is worrying,
but it is when it comes to home form.
Yeah, good point.
On paper, it's a really good result,
to be honest with you, 1-0 away to Fulham.
It's just when you read in between the lines,
it's when you can get bogged down in the details,
which is my job.
So, final stat here, and it's a negative one.
I can't dress this one up.
Manchester United have had to wait
until the 42nd minute for their first shot in this game.
The 42nd minute,
and we're not talking shots on target here,
just shots, okay?
And it's the joint longest wait
since their attempts on goal,
basically in the same minute,
the 42nd minute, against Arsenal.
And both of them have been under Amarin, by the way.
So, yeah, quite damning flex.
How do you look into that one?
We don't know how to, in this system,
what we've seen,
we don't know how to attack effectively.
It's as simple as that.
We get into that final third,
and what we haven't worked on,
because we've got the numerical advantage at the back,
so you're talking about,
it might go along with keeping a few more clean sheets,
it's easier to defend like that,
because you have three centre-halves,
and then wing-backs just ahead of that.
So, you've got a good unit.
When you're at the top end of the pitch,
you've been trying to turn these wing-backs into attackers.
And let's just be honest,
unless Ahmad plays at right wing-back,
who's shown great adaptability to be able to do that,
Mazraoui is not comfortable doing that.
Dalot is not comfortable doing that.
So, you're two attackers down in transition
when you've got the ball.
And then you've got problems at the number nine
with Razzles, Hoyland and Xerxe,
depending on who's playing.
Yeah.
And then you've got the two 10s,
which, when it's Garnaccio in there,
he's trying to adapt of being an inside forward.
It's not a natural fit for him.
You've got Bruno Fernandes in there,
which, listen, like Paul said,
he comes in clutch.
He's the only one you can really hang your hat on
of making things happen.
And then Ahmad in the inside 10,
you had Anthony having a chance in there,
didn't work.
No Mason Mount.
And then you've got Kovian Ugarte,
who, as a pairing, probably doesn't work
when you want to be on the front foot.
When, again, that's why in the bigger games
against Liverpool, when we played against Arsenal,
you sit in there, you be competitive,
you go after people, you be a bit ugly staying in the game.
When you've now got to go and play in the final third
and make things happen and keep the ball ticking over,
these partnerships aren't working.
So, I'm not surprised to see that.
And it's going to keep continuing
until the profile of the player changes.
Do you know what?
I'm going to extract little bits of what you've said there
and open the question to the panel.
Does this kind of further underline,
put it in bold, italics, whatever you like,
about, and trust me to bring up Garnaccio, of course,
but the sale of Garnaccio,
we're already struggling to generate chances to attack.
If you, I just, it further underlines,
as I say, why sell him?
Paul, you've got your opinions on Garnaccio.
Does that, what do you think about that?
If someone's going to come in and pay silly money,
you sell him.
Garnaccio?
You can't say that to him,
because he, listen, this is his guy, Paul.
Like, he loves Alejandro Garnaccio.
It's going to be interesting.
I think he's at his moments.
He scored, you know, when he first come in,
he scored that great goal at Everton.
But I just think, you look what you get out of him
and his game, I just wonder how far he can go.
I think he's getting to that,
to the pinnacle of his level.
I think he's just, I don't think he's got enough.
He wants to play on the left.
He wants to play wide on the left.
He hasn't got natural pace.
He hasn't got natural technique to go past people.
He needs someone to dive in to go past him.
And as well, his decision-making,
he can't cross with his left foot.
He's always going to cut inside and shoot all the time.
I think if someone comes in and offers 40, 50, 60,
I think you take it.
Because you look at, you look at it,
he's deemed as coming through the club for that way.
So again, using this again, PSR,
he's a value to go out and get someone proven.
Proven in that role, in my opinion.
I'm really sorry.
He wants to leave the set.
Listen, I'm fuming.
No, no, look, I hear what you're saying
and I'll offer a counter-argument for it.
But I hear what you're saying about Garnaccio,
the indecisiveness.
Look, we all talk about that.
But I'm talking about a 20-year-old
who's got eight goals and five assists this season.
Okay, Ahmad is clearly stealing the headlines.
But lest we forget,
he was one of the bright attacking players last season.
And Ahmad's decision-making is better than Garnaccio.
It is.
And I'm not going to argue that.
However, a 20-year-old, I'm asking you,
Ahmad aside,
how many people are you comparing a 20-year-old
that can get eight goals and five assists?
He's worked for so many managers.
Do you rate Ten Hag?
No, we can collectively say,
by the end of it, we didn't rate Ten Hag.
And he was still a bright spark in that side.
I think for a 20-year-old, I think 60 million.
I think it's laughable.
I'll go as far as saying it's laughable.
It depends what you do.
I mean, the issue they've got,
they paid 55 million for Mason Mount,
which has been a disastrous signing.
Yes.
There's no two ways of sugarcoating that.
Because of the injuries, it's a disastrous signing.
I actually think a fully fit Mason Mount
offers an awful lot in this system.
Yeah.
But if you're going to sell Garnaccio to Chelsea
for 60 million pounds,
then what you've basically done is a swap deal.
Yeah.
And Chelsea would probably come out the better of that.
There's talk of Christopher Nkunku.
He's struggled to stay fit since he was at Chelsea.
I wonder what type of temperament and character he's got.
Is he what you really want in the dressing room?
So I think it's only a good investment
in terms of selling Garnaccio, an academy product,
which is what this football club is built on.
It's what the foundations are all about.
If you're going to get an upgrade.
Yeah.
And I'm not sure there's an upgrade available
in this transfer window.
Ang, I'm looking at you.
Come on.
Go on, Garnaccio.
You're keeping him or you're selling him?
Oh, I'm not sad.
I don't want to make you sad.
I just, for me, I completely agree with Paul
that if that money is on the table,
Yeah.
it would be a bittersweet departure
because I do agree.
I think that he, that there's something there.
I think it would be something we would look at
later down the line and think,
you know what?
Maybe that was the right call
because you look at how many,
I know, I know, I feel bad.
You look at like the amount of forward players though
that Manchester United have taken a gamble on,
invested in or kept at the club for too long.
The bottom line, he doesn't really fit into this system
and the way that I criticise Joshua Xherxey
for not fitting into the system,
the way that I criticise Dallo
for not fitting into the system.
I have to treat everybody the same here
and you have to cut the cord at the right time
and if the money is on the table,
it might be the right time.
Look, there we are.
I'm hearing all the arguments.
I'm taking them on board.
I'm devastated.
Not going to lie.
Flex, I've got a hand back obviously.
I've got to leave.
It's been another busy week off the field
with more transfer rumours circulating
and a huge advancement on the Old Trafford regeneration plan.
But transfer-wise, crooky.
There's been a lot of talk about Alejandro Gannaccio.
Obviously, we heard from Ryan
and we know what his thoughts are
and he hopes he stays at the football club.
But in terms of Napoli and Chelsea,
these noises are definitely not going away.
There's a real, real possibility.
Ruben Amirim, non-committal in the press conference
before the Fulham game,
sort of saying anything can happen in the window.
It was actually after that actually.
Anything can happen in the window.
How are you understanding the current state of play
with the likes of Chelsea and Napoli and for Gannaccio?
Well, the Napoli noises have gone a bit quiet.
It looks like they're looking at other targets
because they're not willing to pay the type of money
that Manchester United would want to sell Gannaccio in this window.
Chelsea are a difficult club to gauge
because they're going to do something
between now and Monday night.
There's talk maybe of Jean Duran at Aston Villa being a target
and obviously that would take up the type of money
they would need to spend on Gannaccio.
And I think most Chelsea fans feel
that if they are going to spend 60 million quid,
which I think is still the magic number
as far as United are concerned,
they should spend it on a number nine or even a goalkeeper,
not necessarily another wide player.
So I think he's very much up in the air
when it comes to Gannaccio.
It's interesting that he got the full 90 minutes against Rangers.
I agree with Paul because he got a lot of praise
for that performance,
but I think it was an okay performance.
But again, the decision making in the final third
let him down a little bit,
but he started two of the last three Premier League games as well.
So I think Amirin is making it clear
that there is a pathway for him.
It's not a Marcus Rashford situation.
There's no issues as far as I'm told
between the manager and the player
in terms of his temperament
and the effort he puts in in training.
So if he stays, I think he'll continue to get game time.
Ultimately, it will come down to if United get an offer
that meets their valuation.
If they do, they'll be willing to do business.
Yeah, you mentioned Marcus Rashford there as well.
Looking increasingly difficult for him to secure a move.
You know, his agent and representatives
have been around Europe for the past three weeks
and have still come back with a no deal.
It's all rather embarrassing, isn't it?
This sort of beauty parade that he's showing on.
You know, doing an interview and saying
that you essentially want out.
Would you not have had, and maybe they did.
I don't know.
Maybe you can shed more light,
but would you not have had like a plan?
Because it seems like they didn't even have a plan.
He's just said it and it's like, oh, right.
Hang on. He's going.
We need to just find someone.
It seems a bit reckless to me.
I think it's misguided.
And actually, that's the word I would use
to sum up Marcus Rashford
and the people that he surrounds himself with
and the people that he's entrusted,
you know, massive life changing career decisions in
because I agree with Angelina
when he came out and said that to Henry Winter,
the obvious assumption is
well, he must have his move lined up.
It became pretty clear that wasn't the case.
AC Milan were punted heavily,
but I think as soon as Karl Walker became available,
they switched the tensions to him.
Barcelona would be his dream move,
but they need to get players out.
I'm sorry, but that's a bit delusional, isn't it?
Facilitate him.
I'm sorry.
It would be reward as well.
You know, Barcelona is one of the elite football clubs
in the world.
What has Marcus Rashford done in the last 18 months
to warrant that move?
I mean, what planet is he living on
that he thinks that he can...
The panel has absolutely lost this guy, by the way.
Forget, I mean, Jamal, forget him.
Get Rashford in there.
I mean, is he serious?
Well, he plays on the right, Rashford on the left.
No, but I mean, look at the other,
you've got Dembrovina.
Yeah.
I mean, it just didn't make any sense
and it is being badly advised, everything,
and I keep saying it,
but he's got family involved
in something they shouldn't be involved in.
Yeah.
Be there, be around him.
Just be there for him to come back
and talk to you about things,
but let's get someone in there
who knows that job and what's going on
to manage him as a person.
And he hasn't got that
and he's let himself down.
He's really...
He's also not got anybody holding him to account,
other, it seems, than Ruben Amorim.
Well, what do you guys make of Ruben Amorim's...
I'm all for it.
...comments, you know, saying he'd rather play
a 60-year-old goalkeeping coach, you know,
on the bench rather than a player who,
you know, isn't showing the right attitude.
It's extreme.
It's a shock tactic,
but I think he needs a shock.
He needs shaking Marcus Rashford
because, let's be honest,
on top form, he's United's best forward.
He's better than Hoyland.
He's clearly better than Xherxey.
I know he doesn't want to be a number nine.
And the best version of him is better than Gennaccio, too.
Yeah, 100%.
The best version of him probably is United's best player
outside of Bruno Fernandes,
but we haven't seen the best version of Marcus Rashford
for a long time now.
He's lost his England place.
He's lost out on the chance to play
at the European Championships.
If that doesn't shock you into some kind of reaction,
you have to ask what will.
And you listen to Ruben Amorim.
I was at the Etihad when he was dropped for that game.
And I said, is there a way back, Ruben,
for Marcus Rashford?
This was after the win.
He said, it's up to the player.
There's always a way back.
Here we are X amount of weeks later.
Since then, he's saying that now.
What does that tell you about the way
that Rashford has reacted to that?
You know, it's clearly he's still not putting a shift
in his training.
Clearly, he's still not looking after himself
in the way that Ruben Amorim wants him to
and the way that he conducts himself.
And then you see these social media posts
congratulating his teammates.
It's all optics.
It's probably not even written by Marcus Rashford.
He needs to wake up.
I think he's still going to be a Manchester United player
coming over the clock on Monday night.
And what sort of problem does that pose for?
Because, listen, from the player perspective,
first of all, I wanted to ask you,
what's your position on Ruben Amorim being so public
about the player's lack of attitude?
United are trying to move him on.
United are trying to, in the last week,
hope somebody comes in for him.
Is it helpful for Ruben Amorim to go,
I know it doesn't make sense financially
because of his package and stuff,
and if he was thinking about where he's at with his head,
just to let you know,
rather put my goalkeeping coach on the bench than him.
So is that helpful?
And secondly, where do you stand on,
if he does stay here,
should he just be away from the squad?
Because now the manager's come out so strong and said this.
How do you reintegrate him back?
On the first bit,
I'm with him.
I'm with the manager on what he's done now.
During my career, managers spoke up about every player.
There was asked a question,
if that player wasn't doing it, they would say it.
And the way life was then,
it was up to you as a player
how you dealt with that criticism.
And someone will come up and say,
I can deal with, I can handle criticism.
Because he said that in the player's tribe room interview,
didn't he? I can deal with it.
No, I'm going to be honest,
it takes a hell of a, to deal with it.
And the only way you can deal with it
is by actions, not by words.
And you have to go and prove a point.
He hasn't proved a point yet.
And on the other side of him coming back into the dressing room,
I remember an incident with a player
while I was at Manchester United.
And he got told by Brian Robson
what to do with his problem.
And obviously a few other words were said,
but he virtually told him,
your problem is not in here, your problem is upstairs.
So if you can't deal with it upstairs,
do not bring it down here.
So he should be, if he's there,
he should train with the players.
Nothing wrong with it, unless he's doing some,
but until such time,
he understands that football is not an individual sport,
then he's going to have a problem.
Do you think it's odd that he's still training with them?
Because if Ruben Alvarez saying is,
his attitude's this bad,
that you're not getting him a matchday squad,
you're not part of what I'm trying to do here,
I'm not liking your attitude.
Do you worry, or do you have any issue with the fact
that he's still allowed to be in first team training
and what sort of impact that's having on the rest of the squad?
He's still giving him a chance,
he's offering the opportunity,
because it's quite easy as before,
what managers would do,
they're afraid of reserves,
or they say, go and train with the youth team.
But he's saying, you can still,
yeah, show me that you're still with them.
I'll keep you with the lads until such time,
you're not going to be with them.
Because at the end of the day,
do you want that infection to go down to the ones
who are still chasing that opportunity
to be with those good pros?
The answer to that one, you know yourself,
you don't.
So it might come to the point of saying,
stay away from Carrington.
If he stays, should that happen?
If he ain't going to change his ways,
you're not going to have to send him away.
Is it going to affect his pricing?
Yeah, it will affect it, slightly,
because the damage has been done already.
Everyone around the world knows it.
Now, if you're a Barcelona,
if you're AC Milan, all being talked about,
as a fan, would you want your football club
to bring in a player who hasn't respected
his club, his local team,
the club he's been with since he was a kid?
Would you want that player in your football club?
And I think as a fan,
you don't really want it that way, Flex.
His big pal is Jesse Lingard.
That should be a warning in itself.
This is the way your career could end up
if you don't change your ways.
And a football career doesn't go on forever.
Exactly. He's in his prime now.
Rashford should be in his prime.
I wanted to ask you about Christopher Nkunku.
A lot of links reporting him
with a move away from Chelsea,
some interest from Bayern,
some interest from Manchester United.
Man United do need another forward,
another nine.
He's not a nine.
He does his best work as a ten off the front,
for sure.
Best work at Leipzig and PSG has been that.
But how do you understand that situation?
I think he's got the attributes
to play in Ruben Amorim's system.
I just wonder, as I mentioned earlier,
about the mentality and the character
of the player.
I think the way this link has come about
is obviously there have been discussions
between the two football clubs
about Gennaccio's availability
and Chelsea have thrown in.
And Nkunku I know wants to leave
as part of that conversation.
Gilles Felix mentioned to me earlier as well
as someone who may well have been offered
to Manchester United.
Again, you could see him in one of those
number ten roles
and he's desperate to get out of Stamford Bridge.
I think what we're seeing now
because of the way transfers work
and particularly with the PSR,
quite often when clubs start talking
about one player, in this case Gennaccio,
other players are thrown
into the conversation as well.
But I'm not led to believe anything
really has developed
either in terms of Nkunku or Gilles Felix
at this stage.
But never say never,
there's still a few days to go.
Patrick Dawgill of Lecce,
20-year-old Dane,
looking to, well, third and final offer
really from Manchester United.
Apparently that's supposed to be enough.
Well, I think it has to be the final offer
because one of the big issues United have got
and the fans are paying the price now
in terms of 66 quid
to go and watch the team
is United too often get into a position
where they bid against themselves.
We mentioned Rasmus Hoyland.
They didn't need to pay 72 million quid
for Rasmus Hoyland
because nobody else was at the table.
They didn't need to pay 55 million quid
for Mason Mount
in the last year of his contract
because nobody else was really
at that table either.
And I do fear,
I don't know enough about this guy,
obviously Ruben Amorim rates him,
he's 20 years of age,
he's playing in Serie A.
Are you sure with that?
It's a massive step up.
Are you sure the manager is aware of him
or is it someone else doing the buying?
From what I'm told,
from what I'm told,
the manager is a fan
because he's made that a key position.
But what I'm saying is,
if they end up paying £30 million,
£33 million for a left back,
all right,
it's not Rasmus Hoyland type money.
It still seems excessive to me
when nobody else is at the table.
But Alex,
isn't there a player at Benfica
they could go and get?
Yeah,
and they've mentioned that.
He's a former United player
and they've said,
look,
one possibility is that we
can take the buyback option.
That feels like a negotiating tactic to me.
The fact the club were happy
for that information
to be out in the public domain
at the weekend
and he has to put the pressure on Leicester.
Also,
you've got to look at it
from Alvaro's situation.
This kid,
he's been at United for four years.
And they didn't fancy him then?
Didn't fancy him then.
If you're his agent,
you're going,
listen kid,
you're out here playing
Champions League football,
you're playing game in,
game out for Benfica.
Is the advice to him saying,
don't go back at the first call,
you'll be fine,
your stock's high.
Sit here,
keep playing.
Summer,
maybe,
you know,
get another move
or keep getting your football
because he didn't get a chance
to play much football.
Is he even an attacking wing back
in the Dorgoo mould
or is he more of a defensive player?
Exactly,
because he plays left back
and there's been signs there.
Dorgoo's played at right wing as well
so he can play the attacking side.
I think Dorgoo's the one
that I'm worried about.
And it probably will happen
but I just,
again,
it seems a hefty price tag
and I wonder if it was
West Ham
trying to sign Patrick Dorgoo
and not Manchester United
if we're talking about
30 odd million.
We shall find out.
Okay,
that's the latest
of the transfer news
sorted out.
Listen,
we've got a big game
coming up again.
Yes,
in midweek
but we're going to talk about
the Premier League game
against Crystal Palace
and we've got to get
back-to-back wins
in the league.
I mean,
I can't even remember the line
we should bring
Ryan Stackman Douglas back in.
We've got one back-to-back
all season in the league.
There you go.
Palace at times,
you know,
have tested Manchester United
over the last couple of seasons
and
the hardest thing with this is
it is at home.
Amirim keeps talking about
they're nervous at home,
need a good rizzle at home
and
I
am just wary
because you don't know
what team you're going to get.
Okay,
let's really quickly
lock in these predictions.
Give me the numbers.
What have we got, Krooky?
Both games.
I don't think this is quite
as good a Palace side
as the one that battered us
towards the end of last season.
Obviously,
missed Michael Alise.
I think Mateta is a real threat
and we've got to keep
Eze quiet.
Defensively,
without Chalabar,
they're not quite as strong
as they were
at the start of the month.
So, I'm going to go United
to win 2-1.
Yeah,
and midweek game?
I'm commentating that game
for TalkSport 2.
They've got to win,
haven't they?
Because, you know,
we can't afford a playoff round
and two extra fixtures.
I think they'll get the job done.
And?
Midweek,
I'll be positive
and I'll go 2-0.
And then the Palace game,
again,
we've got to win it.
We need a win at home.
I don't see us
keeping a clean sheet.
I'll go 2-1.
Yeah, Paul?
If I look at the game in Europe,
I'm going to go 2-0.
OK.
On the Palace game,
which is a difficult one,
I'm going to go 2-1
because 2-1 seems to be
shout for a lot of the teams
because no one's scoring
a lot of goals.
It's a safe one with United.
I'm going to echo all of that,
all those 2-1s,
to be honest with you.
What a show,
what a show
and look,
we have to just keep
getting points,
that is it.
That's all we've got time for
on this week's Inside.
There was a big thank you
to Alex Crook
and Angelina Kelly,
Ryan Scott Douglas as well
and of course, Paul Parker.
We'll see you on another episode
next week, guys.
Take care.
