JFK Jr. & Carolyn Bessette — The Real Love Story

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It's hard for your words to be taken out of context. the full context in a modern-day context tell me the context another important reminder as to why context is so important so hello everybody welcome back dramatic context i am barbara and a fair use disclaimer out of context has more context than just the regular standard creator fx and hulu has done a new series called love story of which five episodes are now available for you to stream and watch on hulu about john f kennedy jr and carolyn beset where the series follows how the two came to meet how they fell in love and how they eventually got married what a lot of people might not know and they loosely cover in the series is that jfk jr was in love with daryl hanna and despite meeting carolyn who was working at kelvin klein in the early 90s jfk jr and carolyn beset had broken up more than once their relationship was considered to be very tumultuous and we know the ending of this story with carolyn beset kennedy jfk jr and also carolyn's older sister lauren beset all three dying in a plane crash on july 16th of 1999 of which jfk jr was piloting the aircraft we also know that jfk jr and carolyn beset had quietly married in 1996 so why is there so much renewed interest in dramatizing their love story glamorizing the romance between the two especially with all of the documentaries all of the episodes all of the content that has been done in the last decades regarding the two of them jfk jr certainly was born in the shadow of his father and his father's political assassination there is no doubt that he grew up rich connected entitled spoiled even being named people's sexiest man alive and the world's most eligible bachelor even before he established his own magazine george jfk jr and carolyn beset had a very tumultuous relationship on and off for years before they finally tied the knot but everybody that knew carolyn often said she didn't like the spotlight that she didn't like fame yet meeting celebrities like jennifer aniston from friends enjoying the company of princess diana and elton john attending fashion week and even partaking in press pieces like this the private princess but what was rarely seen by the public was the very tumultuous physical relationship that jfk jr and carolyn beset often found themselves in and no we're not just talking about the one time at battery park where the two lovebirds were caught in a very physical altercation which today would have certainly led to somebody being arrested or detained not only was she punching him and hitting him he was screaming in her face and even wrestled her engagement ring off after she did the whole entire hard to get push and pull i love you but i can't tolerate this publicity i want to be with you but i can't i love you but it's too much pressure carolyn beset had her hooks deep in jfk jr and she knew it and this was not an isolated incident however this is one time that the public would actually see what their relationship was truly like so why is hulu and fx trying to glamorize and encapsulate their romance in their marriage as short as it was before their deaths as a fairy tale love story one of which no woman or man should ever aspire to achieve the disagreement turns physical as john appears to rip a ring off her hand here supposedly it was their engagement ring as john walks off leaving a shock carolyn standing there she runs up from behind and tackles him grabbing his neck as he fends her off suddenly they were in each other's faces screaming at the top of their lungs and carolyn didn't hesitate to shove and push him when he tried to walk away she stands up for what she wants and she's not afraid to say no then the pair sit on a park bench while carolyn continues to scream she gets up to leave but then sits again in stony silence neither of them saying a word after a while carolyn wipes tears away from her eyes and as they leave the park john walks a few feet behind her his head hung low the couple almost make it back to the apartment they share in lower manhattan when the fighting erupts again john slumps to the sidewalk and buries his head in his arms he seems to be crying then carolyn starts pacing she extends her hand you can see john dropping something into her hand it is believed to be the engagement ring he tore from her finger earlier in the fight suddenly carolyn grabs for the dog's leash from her boyfriend's hands he angrily yanks it back the photographer who took these pictures says she heard jfk jr yelling you've got my ring you're not getting my dog too and carolyn reportedly screamed back it's our dog she is finally seen leading the dog away the couple console each other but it's short-lived carolyn reads him the riot act once again she's not gonna back down jfk jr finally gets up and reluctantly follows carolyn the bickering continues and then carolyn bums a cigarette from a total stranger standing on the street the couple seemingly exhausted from fighting finally make up they embrace on the street hug and whisper into each other's ears carolyn seems to be sobbing once again young kennedy and carolyn start walking but this time arm and arm obviously reconciled from their all-out quarrel this is not the love story that they're trying to portray it as in fact it was very likely that jfk and carolyn beset would have ended up in divorce and it is no secret today that carolyn beset did become physically violent with jfk on multiple different occasions and that in her early life and career she was certainly a social climber she was known to smoke to do drugs cocaine marijuana drink party and even has been linked to dozens of one-night stands with multiple different men especially if they were famous rich connected and came from very affluent families this isn't a rare once-in-a-lifetime love story carolyn beset had certainly enjoyed the connections and privileges of knowing kelvin klein and working for him she loved the limelight she loved the fame she loved all of the luxury and the privilege it not only showed in the fact that she only wore designer clothes but she was not an ignorant woman she didn't tell jfk no for the sake of telling him no it's just like megan markle getting her claws and her hooks so deep into prince harry even psychologically manipulating him by wearing his carolyn knew how to make john squirm telling somebody no who has never been told no by his family by the world is in fact gaslighting and manipulating the love the relationship the marriage because if this was a love story for the ages a fairy tale to end all fairy tales stability consistency contentment communication that would be the end result of what we've seen between the two of them but that was never the case carolyn pretending that she hated the photographers the paparazzi the limelight everything that surrounded jfk jr yet still choosing to be an active participant in all of it not only speaks volumes to her social climbing ability but in the ways of which she was able to gaslight and manipulate john himself it wasn't beauty or intellect or emotional intelligence that gave her leverage over him in the relationship it's the gaslighting and the manipulating of him that did i love you but i can't handle the fame the cameras the attention but i love you so much i'm gonna change my whole life to try to make this work anyway when that in fact is the biggest lie she had ever sold him because that had always been her life so how does she make herself worthy of his marriage above the likes of daryl hannah sarah jessica parker madonna well in my own opinion it's through that gaslighting and that manipulating of him to get him where she wanted him to be and we see the same exact dynamic with i've thought of her the same way people thought of grace kelly in the 1950s that she was sort of you know an ice princess or this forbidding you know goddess type and she couldn't have been further from that in 1966 carolyn beset is born in white plains which is a suburb north of manhattan and that is not based on truth or reality of who carolyn really was that was based on her media persona and reputation that she was selling from the very moment she was born she was already born to privilege luxury of course she was going to find somebody like jfk jr she was the youngest of three girls her mother was a school teacher and after her parents divorced she moved to greenwich connecticut greenwich connecticut one of the most affluent places that anybody with money fame wealth or connections can live in the united states of america also where former content creator and youtuber eugenia cooney still enjoys the privilege and luxury of living in her parents home her father works in manhattan and is a financial expert equity analyst and stockbroker this is the world of which carolyn besets and her siblings grew up where her mother had remarried she goes to a catholic high school called saint mary's she already has the privilege and the luxury of one of the best educations an opportunity denied to many where she is a very popular young girl at her graduation from high school she is named as the ultimate beautiful person in the yearbook even in high school she was using her beauty her body and her popularity does that or does that not remind you of somebody else somebody who is also often cited as a sociopath and narcissist he's seen as some something of an it girl uh a popular girl in that community she went to boston university where she studied education and i think for a while she wanted to be a teacher yet in middle school and high school she's already trying to be a model wearing nothing but designer fashions is entrenched in the fashion world with fame celebrities money this is also them trying to show carolyn in a different way than what she really was and that is the part i have a hard time digesting it's okay to be a social climber it's okay to say that she did whatever it took to get to who and where she wanted to be because that in fact would be true to carolyn beset as evidence of her popularity at boston university carolyn beset dates alessandro benetton who is the son of the benetton fashion empire which again was very very popular in the 80s and 90s again this is something that she has a lot of experience in in high school college even working at kelvin klein carolyn beset had been known and tied to dozens of men and very wealthy families clearly socially climbing her way to the one we often see this with people like megan markle marrying a producer is not enough they don't stop until they aim for as high as they possibly can get and jfk jr he was named the sexiest man alive and the world's most eligible bachelor of course i'm not surprised that their relationship was tumultuous violent physical and rife with a lot of manipulation of each other this is a charismatic young woman that people want to be around uh and she's finding that she's drawing a larger and larger crowd of people from you know of definite wealth and prominence carolyn beset had not been born nor raised to be anything or anyone other than who she really was and that very clearly is a social climber of course she loved the cameras of course she loved being in magazines and on the covers of the tabloids of course she loved the connections the fame the wealth the designer clothes of course she loved being popular being liked being connected of course she liked the attention and all of the privilege the wealth and the luxury that came with it and she enjoys it i think that carolyn had always fantasized about being married to john and she made that fantasy come true she made that fantasy come true and how well it's simple through gaslighting and manipulating jfk jr who was born in the shadow of his assassinated father he had never known a time where cameras were not in his life he resented it and hated it at times so how does a woman gaslight and manipulate jfk jr into falling in into believing that she is the one for him by simply pretending like she doesn't like the cameras too that being with him is simply an invasion of privacy and it's just too much to bear even though that's precisely what she wanted why she dated him why she continuously came back after every breakup why she loved to tease him and lead him back just to turn around and deny him keep him hanging by a thread and make a complete fool and simp out of him because it's not about true love it's not about fairy tale it's not about love story it's about the psychological and emotional manipulation of making jfk jr want her more simply based on the fact that she is not giving into him when he has always had everybody give him what he wanted that isn't love that is manipulation and we can't necessarily say gold digger but it was the attention the clout the fame the connections the wealth the luxury and the privilege it was the power that caroline beset wanted and she got it answers to the most frequently asked personal questions are as follows yes no we're merely good friends none of your business honest she's my cousin from rhode island i've worn both maybe someday but not new jersey someone who enjoyed the likes of princess diana and even elton john designer brands and fashion week are you really surprised that she failed to stop until reaching somebody like jfk jr because if this is not what she wanted then she never would have constantly went back to him constantly manipulating him to give her another chance she wouldn't have enjoyed all of the trips all of the fancy dinners all of the designer clothes all of the million and billionaire friends and celebrities the whole idea that she didn't want any of that she just wanted him is not only ridiculous it's untrue jackie kennedy never met carolyn beset and jfk jr never introduced them that silence followed him all the way to the altar carolyn broke things off more than one if you're like me and you've been obsessed with love story jfk jr and carolyn beset the new show on hulu and fx i bet you have been waiting patiently for this episode about the fight the very public fight that they had that the paparazzi caught we're going to talk about what they got right and what they got wrong i am fact checking this series once i saw these two in their costumes i knew where the story was going because these pictures are so infamous yesterday was actually 30 years to the day that the public fight happened in battery park the fight did not take place on the same sort of timeline that they're showing on the show information that i got about this was from gq magazine and they mentioned that when they were filming love story in this scene that on the citizen app somebody reported this as a domestic dispute so someone really believed their acting the show portrays this fight as being about the fact that carolyn did not initially accept jfk jr's proposal and also that she was angry at him for caring more about his george magazine launch and for denying that the proposal ever happened but the proposal actually took place on july 4th weekend of 1995 and this fight happened in february of 1996 so this was not likely about her rejecting the proposal and she was wearing the ring and he did take it off that is a true fact so george magazine launched in september of 1995 so neither the proposal nor the magazine launch happened close to the fight this is from the show this is like a paparazzi photo and it has a little caption it says after john rips carolyn's engagement ring from her finger she confronts him and he slumps over exhausted on the pavement handing back carolyn's ring seconds later they hugged and made up there's still a lot of speculation about what this fight possibly was about some say it was about the fact that she was angry that john let people walk all over him and they were just getting into a couple's fight there's a conspiracy theory about this as well some believe that this entire fight was staged on purpose to throw everybody off and make them think that the two of them broke up so that no one would be waiting for their wedding details they were trying to keep their wedding super secret which we'll see in the future episode but some people believe this fight was fake because they didn't want everybody trying to find out the wedding details and to ruin their wedding day i don't know if people really thought that they broke up because you could see them making up also in the photos if you were around 30 years ago do you remember this epic fight and do you think it was staged for the paparazzi to throw them off the path of the wedding or do you think it was legit it looks pretty legit to me honestly but the show really portrayed it in an understandable way how that fight would have gone down but it seemingly is not about any of the things that they showed in the show what do you think it was about what do you think this was about or do you think it was real carolyn beset kennedy's mom tried to warn her and i feel like if she listened she would maybe still be alive today yes i'm watching love story which led me down a rabbit hole to her mom so you know carolyn met john in 1994 carolyn introduced john to her mother and her mother's reaction was like she was giving carolyn the eye the whole time and her reaction was like he's sweet his manners are perfect but the entire scene is too much drama basically she was like no this isn't it carolyn and then when john ghosted carolyn to reconcile with daryl hannah her mom and reportedly saw this in newspapers clipped it out sent it to carolyn it was like move on with your life and then carolyn and john had this epic fight in washington square park right before the which probably contributed to ann's awkward wedding speech again trying to warn her daughter you know their wedding happened in september 96 and and her mom did go there were only like 40 people and apparently people who were there said ann's toast was not celebratory and it was described as awkward and the tone was like are you sure about this carolyn like basically she was like i don't know if my daughter is up for this and on the night of the crash they were supposed to leave during the day but carolyn's sister lauren got to the flight late which caused them to fly at night not only that apparently carolyn was feeling hesitant to get on that plane but when she decided she decided and she was upset then when her sister lauren expressed a little hesitancy to get on the plane basically they had tension before they got on that plane and of course they crashed and her mom loses both daughters and then files a freaking lawsuit against jfk jr's estate and they settled for reportedly 50 million dollars and died in 2013 and then there's one surviving daughter lisa beset who lives very privately all this to say is that i think carolyn beset kennedy's mom had mother's intuition she tried to warn her daughter various times throughout i can't help but wonder what would have happened if she had listened to her mother one person would speak out who would you want it to be like there's carol raswell there's lisa beset daryl hannah we need to know let me know who you think in the comments it's been revealed that the love story fight scene was so realistic that while it was being filmed members of the public actually thought it was a real life domestic violence situation fx's love story just covered the famous fight between carolyn beset and john f kennedy jr and they got it so spot on that the actors revealed that they had to deal with members of the public becoming concerned here's a shot of the actual scene being filmed so if you were watching this and you didn't notice the camera crew you might think that you're witnessing an actual fight between a couple and that is what happened because while they were filming the cast and crew had to deal with the fact that onlookers witnessing it were starting to flag safety alerts on the citizens app which is a public safety app where new yorkers can warn people of concerning things they see in the area the actors also revealed why the fight looked so realistic they explained that they watched the real life video footage of the fight and it was essentially meticulously rehearsed and choreographed so that it looked exactly the same and in so many of these comparisons it's so hard to figure out what is the real thing and what was from the show i'm not a huge fan of the alpine divorce word because this is literally just what men do with anything they weaponize anything against women on purpose sometimes by accident because i don't think this was on purpose which is what alpine uh divorce is it's literally murder attempted murder or murder that's what that is so you know divorce softens it it's a joke but it was a joke made out of something that happened too often in the outdoor community by the way anyone new here i used to be a whitewater raft guide a backpacking guide a ski instructor i lived in my truck for five years i know this world very well and i've been talking about this stuff and writing about it for publications uh for years but what this is is to me just as bad i mean i guess it's a little bit better if your husband's not purposely trying to kill you i guess that's a little better but in terms of the outcome i both enrage me and i believe this is a perfect example of what i have been warning women about for a really long time is that men do not know what they're doing and they do not know how to admit they don't know what they're doing and whether it is flying a plane which literally do you remember a few years ago went viral that like they found that men thought that they could fly planes because they had a simulator at home they literally thought that they that they could just fly a plane as if even if you have all those skills that you actually know how to handle the stress of an emergency because i tell you what you can have all the skill in the world but if you do not know how to remain calm and read a situation and read other people and you know if you don't have emotional intelligence if you are not very thoughtful and aware of groups which is what women have literally been taught to do what the hell is in my hair oh my god um which is what women have been taught to do since we're born is to be have a thermometer up the butt of everybody all the time to our own detriment so we don't even know what we feel about anything we we have self-abandon all the time because of how we are conditioned under patriarchy to just trust men default to them and assume because we wouldn't just and i and i i'm making generalizations here of course but we were not taught to assume that we know everything because we've been taught that we're actually dumb and need well all like whatever and men have been taught that they you know same like whites whiteness is the same that you know the superiority male superiority and so they don't even question themselves they don't listen to women why would they i am she uh i i don't know the whole story but like this guy who's the my understanding is that there was so many factors that were like huge red flags of like bro you should not have been flying that night and my guess is that the two two of the people her and her sister may have said something but either he didn't listen to her or be the you know she she first of all she trusted him that's the worst part women assume that if you are going to put our lives in your hands that you know what the **** you're doing right we assume that if we get in the car with you you know where the hell you're going and that you are going to drive safely and boy do we learn that lesson the hard way we assume that if you're going to take us out on a hike and you're going to take us rafting you're going to take us flying or on a boat or literally anything uh that you are going to know what the **** you're doing a and that you are going to be able to use good judgment if things go sideways and well we find out that uh you they don't know what they're doing so as a former whitewater raft guide i have put i was put into i saw people die y'all i have been processing my years in the wilderness over the last five years in a way that i never understood them and it's horrifying because the more i started to understand how much gender plays into it's in it like it is so deep my socialization that there were so many times i trusted them when i absolutely should not have despite the fact that i lived in my truck for five years then i moved back into it and i got bored besides the fact that i could hang off of cliff walls on just some pieces of metal that i could lead climb that i could i could be a boss bitch white whitewater raft guy that i could i have and i had and i had to keep these people alive and one of the things that that that i found so frustrating working with men is that so many of them really weren't concerned about people's safety and i have talked about this a lot a couple years ago when i first started processing my time on the river that they use the word carnage i mean that's what like we all did that's what we use the word carnage but men would oftentimes use carnage is like yeah and if you watch i i dare you to google like rafting videos on reels or any of those things all these rafting guide men women will do it too because they're trying to be the cool girl of like they'll sit there and they'll and you know there are places where it's pretty safe to fall out of the boat but also a lot of times men aren't thinking um that just because it's safe to fall out of the boat doesn't mean that one should fall out of the boat because a lot of people are terrified of a lot of people like are not prepared for the the the fear factor that comes in when you are out of your boat in the water your boat is far away and you don't know what to do and you forget everything that was told you in the safety speak and so you see all these videos online of men who are like you know who record people going through the rapids and they're like we got some carnage here look and it's just a joke there's also men who purposely flip their boats i knew how sick is that because they get to be a hero so when i tell you when i talk about men and how selfish they are and how they they love being a hero by putting women in danger i'm not just talking about husbands and how they do it i'm talking about literal professional men will sometimes put people in danger so that you'll give them a better tip when you sit when they save your life and they don't care that they may have made you afraid of rivers for the rest of your life because of that little prank and they don't respect human life this is i have been talking about this for years and i'm a little frustrated that this is all going viral and um and people outside of tiktok don't seem to know that um i've started some of these conversations uh that's fine whatever but i need to start um pitching articles again because i would like to own my ideas um but anyway i'm not the only person who's talked about this but when i wrote for outside magazine not too uh like several years ago about being a toxic toxically masculine feminist on whitewater because being in these boys clubs uh kind of conditioned me to be one of them it was kind of like that doesn't take all the responsibility off of me of course you know i was in my cool girl era but i kind of had to adapt to the culture and the only way i could survive living at a freaking boathouse with a bunch of dudes was to become one of them and i didn't have enough spine or you know i didn't have enough um experience or confidence to really not self abandon and just be one of the boys so i fell into that hierarchy toxic masculinity mindset and so you know i said all the jokes but one thing i did not do was become uh unsafe on my boats because my biggest fears of whitewater rafting was not that i was going to die is that someone would die on my raft i knew i i didn't know how i would live with myself if someone died on my so i was scared every i can't believe i did it for so long honestly especially since uh someone died my first day as a raft guide in new mexico because uh private boater and she um was wearing a lake vest not a proper vest i don't know the details of the case but we were led to believe that uh like a lot of the raft guides who were doing the recovery of her body trying to bring her back to life the first thing we noticed is that she was wearing a really shitty life jacket not a pfd and she died after cpr on the side of the river for an hour and setting up z pulleys to drag her body up a cliff a canyon wall and then hear her daughter scream when she sees her mom uh come to the top first day that day i i have i have been scared of water ever since i didn't let that fear keep me from water but i am terrified of water uh in a good way and so it drove me crazy being with men who didn't seem to think about the consequence of someone dying on their boat as much as i did who didn't seem to uh who thought it was funny to see people scared who thought it was profitable to be a hero so i know how how how how prevalent this is in men because i worked around so many of them and it's not just the men i worked with there's always some ************ in the but in the but in the front of my boat regularly now my pygmyism put some men in the front of the boat a lot of times until i learned my lesson because i needed strong paddlers little did i know that their male supremacy was so strong that having them as strong paddlers would be disadvantaged because they're constantly doing sea strokes trying to steer the freaking boat even though they don't know where we're going they don't know where the holes are they don't know where the the sleeper rocks are they don't know any of the danger they don't know ---- about rivers and they assume because of their male supremacy that they know a lot more about this boat and where it should go than me they can't stand being led by a woman and so i had to fight men every day on the river to not die and to not have my boat full of people including children die at the hands of men so it's not just the professional guides it is dads in the front of my freaking boat who thought they knew more than women even though i had years of experience and they've never been on white water so yeah whether it's purposeful murder or accidental murder because of being full of ego me it's the same hey everyone i'm sick so please forgive me this is not a all-natural handmade organic soaps lotions and balms as you know i am a cervical cancer survivor i also have fibromyalgia and i also have an inherited genetic connective tissue disease i have ehlers-danlos syndrome type 1 and type 2 essentially it is a collagen deficiency and collagen affects the foundation of our very body from your organs to your tendons 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everyone's talking about it it's the number one show on hulu but why are we so obsessed with it first of all i think the 90s nostalgia of it all is a big factor and simply put it's just so cool like carolyn beset and jfk junior really had that ---- on at all times and it was even crazier finding out that carolyn was the one that discovered kate moss that might be the coolest thing that she's ever done there's the whole 90s manhattan aesthetic the paparazzi flashbulbs the kennedy world the whole show feels like a time machine and then there's the actual love story the son of the president falls for a publicist at calvin klein normal girl normal life and then overnight she becomes the most famous woman in america paparazzi at her door every morning tabloids making up stories about substance use affairs divorce all of a sudden she can't even walk to work anymore and we watch this seemingly perfect dreamlike relationship fall apart in real time because people won't leave them alone and the reason everyone's watching is because someone else can't leave things alone the creator of the show is ryan murphy this is the guy that made dahmer and didn't tell the victims families and they found out when the trailer dropped jfk jr's nephew came out and said that the show was grotesque said that they're profiting off of his uncle's life and that the family was never consulted and ryan murphy's response was it's an odd choice to be mad about a relative you don't remember this is what he does he takes these tragedies and turns them into prestige television he takes all the blame but we're no better because we can't stop watching we know what's wrong we know the families don't sign off on these things yet we are seated every single time this guy makes something that's the reason it's the number one show in america right now we shouldn't be watching it but we just can't stop watching it call a spade a spade honey keep making content let me know what you think in the comment section 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