Angelina Jolie and Dr. Denis Mukwege talk about "Muganga"

Women's issue. You are such a strong reminder that men can be part of the solution to fight sexual violence. Treating women at the hospital, what I could see is after to support them medically, it was not enough. So we start to work with communities, work with families, and I can say that with this support, to bring women to be autonomous, to be able to support themselves. Because I think that women are not asking justice because they want to see their perpetrators in jail. No. They want justice because justice is a way for them to just say, you are a victim, it was not your fault. And this is very important. It's hard for some people to believe, but that that is what happens time and again. That someone who is the victim of such horrendous violence, such abhorrent behavior that another person does, they, the victim, become stigmatized. And it's so important that it is not a defining part of their life. That they are seen and treated and have the potential to be all that they were supposed to be. What is needed today is that if we can get men involved in this question, because I don't see how women can do more to make the world understand that it's very important to do the same. I said to some men once, we were talking about this issue, young men, they said, well, we don't know, like, if we were to join, are we welcome to join? Because we feel like we're the guys. And I said, no, of course. Like, please, you're welcome. We're partners, men and women around the world. And we want men to see issues like this as their place to, you know, be with us. If men can understand that the majority can love, can support, can help, can do a lot of things, sharing women and so on. And it's just a small minority who is giving an image. So I think that this majority need really to speak up. It's not a cause of women or a cause of men. It's our cause. So we need to come together. Absolutely. And I think when we understand it also, which is what we've talked about, having met so many years ago, and this work, why it's so important that it is seen as a weapon. A method of war. It is a method of war. It's a weapon to destroy the fabric of the society. It's a weapon to destroy families. And I was in Latin America, in Asia, in Africa, in Europe, telling me that when they hate me, they kill me. And this is really very profound for me. Because this feeling that you are killed even if you are alive, it means that something in you was completely destroyed. And if you don't have a support to rebuild your new life, you have impression that you don't exist. A lot of that is also the accountability. When someone is harmed in any way, and it's not considered important, it adds to the devaluation of the person. What is needed is the political will. Because justice, at the end, it's a political question. So it's the government who have responsibility for justice. I'm very happy with this Ngunganga, because it's a fiction. It's a little bit different with some documentary. And I hope that it can bring more awareness on the question, and maybe bring also more discussion.